Transcript: Sebelius, Pawlenty

Sept.13, 2009 — -- ABC NEWS, THIS WEEK WITH GEORGE STEPHANOPOULOS INTERVIEW WITH SEN. JOHN D. ROCKEFELLER IV, D-W.VA., KATHLEEN SEBELIUS, SECRETARY OF HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES, SEN. MARY L. LANDRIEU, D-LA. AND GOV. TIM PAWLENTY, R-MINN.

STEPHANOPOULOS: Good morning and welcome to "This Week."

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PRESIDENT BARACK OBAMA: The time for bickering is over. The time for games has passed.

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STEPHANOPOULOS: President Obama presents his plan.

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OBAMA: Now is the time to deliver on health care.

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STEPHANOPOULOS: Are Democrats on board? Will Republicans bend? Bottom line, will Obama get his plan? And what will it mean for you? Questions this morning for our exclusive headliners from every side of this debate. The president's health secretary, Kathleen Sebelius. Democrats senators Jay Rockefeller -- he wants a public option -- and Mary Landrieu. She doesn't. For the Republicans, the Minnesota governor with his eye on the White House, Tim Pawlenty. Our "This Week" debate.

Then...

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REP. JOE WILSON, R-S.C.: You lie!

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STEPHANOPOULOS: The heckler that rocked the hall.

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REP. NANCY PELOSI, D-CALIF., SPEAKER OF THE HOUSE: It was stunning.

REP. JOHN A. BOEHNER, R-OHIO: His behavior was inappropriate.

WILSON: I will not be muzzled.

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STEPHANOPOULOS: That and the rest of the week's politics on our roundtable, with George Will, Sam Donaldson, Cokie Roberts and David Brooks of the New York Times.

Then, as always, the Sunday Funnies.

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(UNKNOWN): President Obama said that he will not send a health care plan that adds one dime to the federal deficit. And then he interrupted himself and said, "you lie."

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STEPHANOPOULOS: It was back to the campaign trail today, with dueling rallies and loud partisan crowds. Here in Washington, tens of thousands of conservative activists marched on the Capitol to block Obamacare.

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REP. MIKE PENCE, R-IND.: We the people do not consent to government-run insurance that will cost millions of Americans to lose the insurance they have!

SEN. JIM DEMINT, R-S.C.: Ladies and gentlemen! Welcome to Waterloo!

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STEPHANOPOULOS: In Minneapolis, some 15,000 Obama supporters hear a stem-winder from their man.

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OBAMA: Are you fired up? Ready to go? Fired up! Ready to go! Fired up! Ready to go!

They can't stop us! Let's go get this done.

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STEPHANOPOULOS: And let's begin our own debate here in the studio. I'm joined by Kathleen Sebelius, the secretary of health and human services in Kansas. She's joined here in the studio by Democratic Senator Jay Rockefeller, Democratic Senator Mary Landrieu, and Republican Governor Tim Pawlenty of Minnesota.

And Governor Pawlenty, let me begin with you, because after the speech on Thursday night, the president says he's going to get this done. After the speech on Thursday night, you suggested perhaps invoking the Tenth Amendment, which reserves powers to the states, if indeed this does pass. What exactly are you saying? There is a movement to actually nullify health care if it passes?