Pence, Harris face off in VP debate with diverging views of America

Highlights from the first and only matchup between Biden, Trump's running mates

Last Updated: October 15, 2020, 9:27 AM EDT

With plexiglass and more than 12 feet of distance separating them, Vice President Mike Pence and Democratic nominee Sen. Kamala Harris of California debated in Salt Lake City in the first and only one-on-one matchup between the vice presidential candidates.

The showdown came as President Donald Trump and several in his orbit have tested positive for the novel coronavirus, raising questions on a transfer of power to the vice president were Trump at 74 -- or Democratic nominee Joe Biden at 77 -- to become too ill to serve.

The debate's format was divided into nine 10-minute sections with each candidate having two minutes to respond to the opening question in each segment and the remaining time allowed for follow ups. Moderator Susan Page, Washington Bureau chief of USA Today, did not release the topics in advance.

The sole vice presidential debate follows Trump and Biden's chaotic debate last week in Cleveland.

Oct 07, 2020, 9:36 PM EDT

Harris touts historic nature of her vice presidential run

When asked about whether Harris had spoken with Biden about a plan in case of presidential disability, she touted her career and the historic nature of her nomination, but she said their shared purpose is the reason she is on the ticket with Biden.

Democratic vice presidential candidate Sen. Kamala Harris answers a question as Vice President Mike Pence listens during the vice presidential debate, Oct. 7, 2020, at Kingsbury Hall on the campus of the University of Utah in Salt Lake City.
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"I think Joe has asked me to serve with him because he knows that we share, we share a purpose which is about lifting up the American people," Harris said. "And after the four years that we have seen of Donald Trump, unifying our country around our common values and principles."

In response to the same question, Pence touted the "transparency" that the White House practiced while the president was hospitalized at Walter Reed Medical Center. 

"The American people have a right to know about the health and well-being of their president and we'll continue to do that," Pence said.

Oct 07, 2020, 9:34 PM EDT

Harris, Pence square off on reliability of COVID-19 vaccine

During the first open discussion session, Page asked Harris if she would take a COVID-19 vaccine if it was approved by the Trump administration.

PHOTO: Democratic vice presidential nominee Sen. Kamala Harris and  Vice President Mike Pence participate in the vice presidential debate moderated by Washington Bureau Chief for USA Today Susan Page, center, Oct. 7, 2020 in Salt Lake City.
Democratic vice presidential nominee Sen. Kamala Harris and Vice President Mike Pence participate in the vice presidential debate moderated by Washington Bureau Chief for USA Today Susan Page, center, Oct. 7, 2020 in Salt Lake City.
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"If the public health professionals -- if Dr. Fauci, if the doctors tell us that we should take it, I'll be the first in line to take it, absolutely," Harris said. "But if Donald Trump tells us I should take it -- that we should take it, I'm not taking it."

Page tried to move on to the next topic -- the role of the vice president -- but Pence used his uninterrupted two minutes to respond to Harris' comment on a potential vaccine and to criticize how the Obama administration handled the Swine Flu or H1N1 pandemic of 2009. 

"We have five companies in phase three clinical trials and we're right now producing tens of millions of doses," the vice president said.  "So, the fact that you continue to undermine public confidence in a vaccine, if a vaccine emerges during the trump administration, I think is unconscionable."

"And senator, I just ask you, stop playing politics with peoples' lives. The reality is, that we will have a vaccine, we believe, before the end of this year," he added.

Oct 07, 2020, 9:30 PM EDT

Pence addresses White House practices that fly in face of COVID-19 protocols 

In light of the president's recent diagnosis, Page directly asked Pence, "How can you expect Americans to follow the administration's safety guidelines to protect themselves from COVID when you at the White House have not been doing so?"

Democratic vice presidential nominee Senator Kamala Harris and Vice President Mike Pence participate in the 2020 vice presidential campaign debate held on the campus of the University of Utah in Salt Lake City, Oct. 7, 2020.
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"Well, the American people have demonstrated over the last eight months that, when given the facts, they're willing to put the health of their families and their neighbors and people they don't know first," Pence said.

Pence also addressed the Sept. 26 Rose Garden event during which social distancing and masks weren't enforced and after which several White House officials tested positive.

"Many of the people who were at that event, Susan, actually were tested for coronavirus, and it was an outdoor event which all of our scientists regularly and routinely advise," Pence said. "The difference here is, President Trump and I trust the American people to make choices in the best interest of their health."

Oct 07, 2020, 9:27 PM EDT

Pence responds to Harris’ criticism of the administration’s COVID response

Pence defended the White House's response to the COVID-19 pandemic, saying that Trump "has put the health of America first." Pence pointed to the administration's early ban on travel to China, testing efforts and the efforts to research and administer a vaccine. 

Pence also went after the plan the Biden campaign released to combat coronavirus, saying "it reads an awful lot like what President Trump and I, and our task force, have been doing every step of the way."

He said that the plan "looks a little bit like plagiarism," because of its similarity to the White House Coronavirus Task Force plan. 

Harris hit back at Pence, citing the revelations that Trump downplayed the coronavirus to prevent panic.

"I want to ask the American people, how calm were you when you were panicked about where you were going to get your next roll of toilet paper, how calm were you when your kids were were sent home from school? How calm were you when your children couldn't see your parents because they were afraid they could kill them?" she said.