Trump trial: Hope Hicks faces her ex-boss on 'Access Hollywood' tape, Daniels payment

Trump's former top aide was the top witness on Day 11 of his hush money trial.

Last Updated: May 3, 2024, 1:31 PM EDT

Former President Donald Trump is on trial in New York City, where he is facing felony charges related to a 2016 hush money payment to adult film actress Stormy Daniels. It marks the first time in history that a former U.S. president has been tried on criminal charges.

Trump last April pleaded not guilty to a 34-count indictment charging him with falsifying business records in connection with a hush money payment his then-attorney Michael Cohen made to Daniels in order to boost his electoral prospects in the 2016 presidential election.

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Trump, Hicks make no eye contact as court breaks for lunch

Donald Trump and Hope Hicks made no eye contact when Hicks got off the stand for the lunch break. Hicks looked down at the floor as she passed Trump sitting at the defense table, and he turned to the left to huddle with his attorneys as she went by.

The former president spent a good deal of the morning session looking away while his one-time closest aide testified.

During more than an hour of testimony from Hicks, Trump at times looked straight ahead, looked down at his tie, and closed his eyes. At one point his head rolled down and his chin hit his chest, remaining there for a few moments before it quickly snapped back up straight.

The former president hardly reacted to any of Hicks' testimony, save for when Hicks shared her own personal response to the release of the "Access Hollywood" tape.

"Just a little stunned," Hicks said of her initial reaction, prompting Trump to snap his head and whisper to his attorney, Todd Blanche.

In contrast to many other former Trump aides, Hicks has never spoken about Trump publicly before. The pair were often described as having a father-daughter relationship, with Trump calling her "Hopey".

May 03, 2024, 1:02 PM EDT

Hicks says says Trump drafted Karen McDougal statement

Longtime Trump aide Hope Hicks said she spoke with National Enquirer publisher Pecker about the Karen McDougal story on Nov. 4, 2016.

"He explained that Karen McDougal was paid for magazine covers and fitness columns and that it was all very legitimate. And that was what the contract was for," Hicks said.

Hicks said she spoke with Michael Cohen before calling Pecker.

Hicks said she drafted a statement to respond to the Wall Street Journal, which was about to break the story that National Enquirer parent AMI had paid off McDougal to buy her silence about a long-denied affair with Trump. She then shared the statement with Trump once he returned to his plane.

"When Mr. Trump came on the plane for the rally, I shared it with him as well," Hicks said.

Cohen also made edits and offered feedback to the draft statement, according to an exhibit entered into evidence.

PHOTO: Former President Donald Trump sits with his attorneys Emil Bove (L)  as he attends his trial at Manhattan Criminal Court on May 3, 2024 in New York City.
Former President Donald Trump sits with his attorneys Emil Bove (L) as he attends his trial at Manhattan Criminal Court on May 3, 2024 in New York City.
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According to Hicks, Trump opted to write his own statement instead.

"He wanted to draft his own statement," Hicks said.

Before he drafted the statement, Hicks and Trump called back Pecker, who repeated the information he told Hicks earlier.

"It included his explanation for this -- that this was a legitimate contract, and that's what they planned to tell the Journal," Hicks said.

Hicks said on the stand that her memory was "very fuzzy at this point," but she said that Trump wanted to make sure the statement denied any relationship with Stormy Daniels, who was also mentioned in the Wall Street Journal article.

"He wanted to know the context and he wanted to make sure that there was a denial of any kind of relationship," Hicks said.

Following this testimony, court broke for lunch. Trump gave a thumbs-up to reporters as he exited the courtroom for the break.

May 03, 2024, 12:56 PM EDT

Hicks recounts learning of Karen McDougal story

Longtime Trump aide Hope Hicks testified that she first heard the name Stormy Daniels in 2015 when she overheard some of the security on Trump's plane discuss a golf tournament Trump attended.

"Her name came up. She was there was with one of the other participants that Mr. Trump had played with that day," Hicks said.

Hicks said she first learned of Karen McDougal when the Wall Street Journal reached out for comment regarding their AMI payment story on Nov. 4, 2016, as the newspaper was preparing to break the story that National Enquirer parent AMI had paid off Karen McDougal to buy her silence about a long-denied affair with Trump.

Jurors were then shown the email Hicks received on Nov. 4, 2016, from the Wall Street Journal.

Hicks said she received the email ahead of a campaign rally.

"I was sort of dealing with this by myself on the plane while the rally was taking place," Hicks said.

According to Hicks, she notified Trump about the story before the rally began.

"I was worried about not having enough time to respond while he was speaking," Hicks said.

Hicks said she forwarded the email to Jared Kushner in part because he had "a very good relationship with Rupert Murdoch," the owner of the Wall Street Journal.

Hicks said she hoped Kushner could "buy a little extra time to deal with this."

"I think [Kushner] said he wasn't going to be able to reach Murdoch and that we should work on responding and deal with it," Hicks said.

Hicks said she called David Pecker's office as well as Cohen, due to his relationship with Pecker.

May 03, 2024, 12:46 PM EDT

Hicks says she asked Michael Cohen about a 2nd rumored tape

Longtime Trump aide Hope Hicks testified that she spoke with then-Trump attorney Michael Cohen on Oct. 8, 2016, to ask about a rumor she had heard of another potential tape that could be released, following the release of the "Access Hollywood" tape.

"I was calling to ask him to chase down a rumor I had heard with a contact he was familiar with in the media," Hicks said, describing that there "might be another tape that might be problematic for the campaign."

"I didn't want anyone to be blindsided. I wanted to have an understanding of what material was out there that we needed to prepare for," Hicks said.

Hicks said that no such tape existed but Cohen still chased down the rumor for her. She spoke vaguely about what the potential story was.

Hicks was then asked about Trump's campaign speech in Greensboro, North Carolina, which jurors watched earlier this week. Prosecutors again played the tape for the jury.

"These are all horrible lies, all fabrications," Trump told the crown in Greensboro regarding accusations of infidelity. "And we can't let them change the most important election in our lifetime."

"If 5% of the people think it's true and maybe 10% think, we don't win," Trump said at the rally.

Hicks also was asked about Trump's tweets after the "Access Hollywood" video was released.

"Nothing ever happened with any of these women. Totally made up nonsense to steal the election," Trump wrote in one tweet.

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