1st presidential debate between Trump and Biden spirals into chaotic clash
Highlights from the first presidential debate held in Cleveland.
President Donald Trump and Democratic nominee for president Joe Biden faced off from a social distance in the first presidential debate of 2020 in Cleveland, just five weeks out from Election Day.
The first presidential debate at Case Western Reserve University and the Cleveland Clinic came on the heels of bombshell reporting from The New York Times on two decades of Trump's tax records, ahead of a contentious Supreme Court confirmation process in the Senate and as the latest ABC News/Washington Post poll shows Biden maintains a 10-point edge among both registered and likely voters.
The coronavirus pandemic's impact on the race was also on display as the two candidates didn't partake in a handshake, customary at the top of such events. The size of the audience was also limited and everyone attending the debate had to undergo COVID-19 testing and follow other public health protocols.
The debate’s moderator, Chris Wallace of "Fox News Sunday," selected six topics for Tuesday with each segment expected to get approximately 15 minutes: Trump's and Biden's records, the Supreme Court, COVID-19, the economy, race and violence in U.S. cities, and the integrity of the election -- the final topic coming as Trump over the weekend wouldn’t commit to a peaceful transfer of power.
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Trump blames politics on the vaccine timeline
When confronted by Wallace about the disparity between what his public health officials are saying and what he has said about the timing of the vaccine, Trump stuck with his previous comments.
"We can have it a lot sooner," Trump said. "It's a very political thing because people like this would rather make it political than save lives."
Top U.S. government public health officials and other experts have said that it's possible -- if everything goes well, but unlikely -- that vaccine trials will have enough clear and compelling data to be available by the end of October or beginning of November. Dr. Anthony Fauci, the nation's foremost infectious disease expert, has said he thinks there will be a "safe and effective vaccine" by "the end of this calendar year."
Fauci has also said that the United States will not return to "normal" until the middle of next year.
Biden interrupted the president by referring to Trump's previous statements earlier this year, when he said the virus would be gone by Easter and then also referenced Trump's potentially dangerous comment that people can inject bleach to get rid of the virus. Trump then responded that he said the bleach comment "sarcastically" made.
Biden turned to the hundreds of thousands of Americans who have died due to the coronavirus.
"His own head of the CDC said if we just wore masks between now -- if everybody wore masks and social distanced -- between now and January, we probably save up to 100,000 lives," Biden said.
Biden slams Trump's handling of the COVID-19 pandemic
Wallace pivoted the conversation to the global COVID-pandemic, and Biden began by listing statistics including 200,000 Americans dead and over 7 million infected.
"The president has no plan. He hasn't laid out anything. He knew all the way back in February how serious this crisis was. He knew it was a deadly disease," Biden said. "And I laid out again in July what we should be doing."
You should get out of your bunker and get out of the sand trap and your golf course and go in your Oval Office and bring together the Democrats and Republicans and fund what needs to be done now to save lives," he continued.
Trump countered by saying if the country had listened to Biden then millions of people would have died, not 200,000, and touted his decision to restrict travel from China in February, along with his efforts on ventilators and vaccine development.
"When you talk about numbers you don't know how many people died in China, you don't know how many people died in Russia, you don't know how many people died in India. They don't exactly give you a straight count," Trump said.
Trump and Biden spar over health care
While on the topic of the Supreme Court and the fate of the Affordable Care Act, Trump was quick to call Biden's health care plan "socialized Biden."
Biden, notably, has said he does not support "Medicare for All" and responded by calling out Trump for promising to repeal and replace Obamacare -- which he hasn't.
"He does not have a plan," Biden said. "The fact is this man doesn't know what he's talking about."
'Will you shut up, man?': Biden to Trump
Less than 20 minutes into the debate, both candidates have interrupted each other multiple times, making it difficult to understand what either is saying. Wallace has specifically asked Trump multiple times to let Biden finish his thought.
Eventually, the cross-talks continued for long enough that the former vice president said, "Will you shut up, man?" to the president.
Will the candidates urge their supporters to stay calm, civil while ballots are counted?
When asked by Wallace if he would urge his supporters to stay calm during the extended period after the election when ballots are still being counted, Trump did not give a definitive answer.
"I'm urging my supporters to go into the polls," Trump said.
"I am urging my people -- I hope it's going to be a fair election, if it's a fair election," the president continued.
"You're urging them what," Wallace interrupted.
"I am 100% on board, but if I see tens of thousands of ballots being manipulated, I can't go along with that."
"What does that mean?" Wallace pressed.
The president did not clarify. Trump has previously falsely claimed mail-in ballot fraud.
When Biden was asked the same question, he responded with a definitive, "yes."
"Here's the deal," Biden added. "The fact is I will accept it, and he will too. You know why? Once when the winner is declared after all the -- after all the ballots are counted -- all the votes are counted, that'll be the end of it."
Biden finished by saying he will "support the outcome" either way.