Trump trial: Cohen faces Trump team grilling over past lies, recollections
The defense questioned Trump's former lawyer on Day 18 of the hush money trial.
Former President Donald Trump is on trial in New York City, where he is facing felony charges related to a 2016 hush money payment to adult film actress Stormy Daniels. It marks the first time in history that a former U.S. president has been tried on criminal charges.
Trump last April pleaded not guilty to a 34-count indictment charging him with falsifying business records in connection with a hush money payment his then-attorney Michael Cohen made to Daniels in order to boost his electoral prospects in the 2016 presidential election.
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Cohen struggles to say when an untruth is a lie
During an extended back-and-forth, Michael Cohen struggled to admit that he lied to the special counsel in 2018 about Trump's involvement in a Trump Tower project in Moscow.
"Yes, the information I have was not accurate," Cohen said.
"Is it a lie?" Defense attorney Todd Blanche asked.
"It was inaccurate, yes," Cohen said.
"Was it a lie?" Blanche asked.
"I don't know if I would characterize it as a lie. It was inaccurate," Cohen said.
"How are you distinguishing that in your head?" Blanche asked.
"It wasn't truthful," Cohen said. "If you want to call it a lie, it was a lie."
After a long pause, Cohen said, "Sure, I will say it's a lie."
Defense presses Cohen on past admiration for Trump
"You're actually obsessed with President Trump?" Blanche asked, pursuing a line of inquiry that he drew attention to in the defense's opening statement.
"I don't know that I would characterize obsessed," Cohen said. "I can't recall using that word, but I can't say it would be wrong."
Blanche asked if Cohen was "knee-deep in the cult of Donald Trump" when he said flattering things about Trump in the past.
"That's how I felt," Cohen said.
"Fair to say you admired President Trump when you were working for him?" Blanche asked.
"Yes sir," Cohen said.
Blanche questioned Cohen about Trump's book "The Art of the Deal," which Cohen has read more than once. Blanche noted that Cohen has publicly called the book a "masterpiece."
Cohen replied, "I viewed it as an excellent book."
"You've actually called it a masterpiece?" Blanche asked.
"Yes, a masterpiece," Cohen said.
As Blanche asked Cohen about his past praise of the former president, Trump quickly grabbed a stack of Post-it notes from the counsel table, jotted down a note, and passed it to attorney Emil Bove, who Trump poked to get his attention.
Defense asks Cohen about anti-Trump T-shirt
Jurors were shown a series of items that Michael Cohen sells.
"This is a $32 shirt that has a picture of President Trump in an orange jumpsuit behind bars?" Defense attorney Todd Blanche asked.
"That's what the picture shows," Cohen answered.
"You actually wore that T-shirt on your TikTok last week?" Blanche said.
"I did," Cohen said.
Defense lawyers asked for the judge to order Cohen to stop commenting about Trump last week after they flagged Cohen wearing the shirt on a TikTok live stream, ABC News reported on Friday.
Cohen says he wants to see Trump convicted
Under cross-examination, Michael Cohen conceded he wants to see Trump found guilty.
"Have you regularly commented on your podcast that you want President Trump to be convicted in this case?" Blanche asked.
"Yes, probably," Cohen said. "I don't specifically know if I used those words but, yes, I would like to see that."
Blanched pressed for a definitive answer.
"I would like to see accountability. That's not for me. That's for the jury and this court," Cohen said.
Blanche pressed, asking, "Do you want President Trump to get convicted in this case?"
Cohen ultimately responded: "Sure."
Trump team attempts to cast doubt on Karen McDougal call
Defense attorney Todd Blanche pressed Michael Cohen on the hush money payment made to Playboy model Karen McDougal, whose story Cohen said he thought could be damaging to the Trump campaign.
"President Trump at least initially didn't think it would hurt him?" Blanche asked.
"Initially yes," Cohen said.
Blanche attempted to cast doubt on how Cohen could remember a specific phone call with Trump about McDougal in June 2016 when he was getting a hundreds of calls a week at the time.
Cohen agreed with the defense that he gets 14,000 phone calls a year.
"So when you testified Monday and Tuesday about specific conversations you had with Mr. Howard, with President Trump, you were not testifying about a specific recollection of that phone call?" Blanche asked.
"I was," Cohen said. "Because these phone calls are things I've been talking about for the last six years. They are, and they, were all-consuming."