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"The more she talked, the more things didn't make any sense."
She's been called "evil" and "the devil" - A mother who did the unthinkable. As Diane Downs comes up for parole next year, her daughter speaks out. New interviews and details - Friday at 9/8c on ABC.
Psychologist Dr. Jonathan Fader says some charismatic leaders may make risky decisions: "You fail to see the things that you're doing as a leader that are, perhaps, putting other people in jeopardy."
This is episode 3 of "The Dropout," a podcast about the fall of Theranos.