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Top Republican 'struggling' with RFK Jr.'s nomination over Kennedy's vaccine views

Kennedy refused to say vaccines don't cause autism during his hearings.

Last Updated: January 30, 2025, 1:14 PM EST

President Donald Trump has promised he'd let Robert F. Kennedy Jr. "go wild" on health, food and medicine as head of the Department of Health and Human Services.

Kennedy, a Democrat who ran as an independent but ended up supporting Trump in the 2024 presidential campaign, was grilled by senators over his views on vaccines, abortion, Medicaid and more during two days of confirmation hearings.

Sen. Bill Cassidy, the top Republican on the Senate Committee on Health, Education, Labor and Pensions, concluded Thursday's hearing by saying he was "struggling" with the nomination due to Kennedy's vaccine positions. Kennedy notably refused to say vaccines don't cause autism as he faced pointed question from lawmakers.

Jan 30, 2025, 11:59 AM EST

Kennedy stumbles over Medicare questions

Sen. Maggie Hassan, of New Hampshire, asked Kennedy a series of questions about parts of Medicare, over which Kennedy seemed to stumble.

Kennedy incorrectly said Medicare Part A was mainly for primary care or physicians. In fact, Medicare A covers inpatient care in hospitals, critical access hospitals and skilled nursing facilities.

Robert F. Kennedy, Jr., President Trump's nominee to serve as Secretary of Health and Human Services testifies during a Senate Committee on Health, Education, Labor and Pensions hearing for his pending confirmation, Jan. 30, 2025, in Washington.
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He failed to describe what Medicare Part B is, which covers medically necessary services and supplies, and preventive services.

"Mr. Kennedy, you want us to confirm you to be in charge of Medicare, but it appears that you don't know the basics of this program," Hassan said.

Jan 30, 2025, 11:58 AM EST

Kennedy says he will rescind rule over transgender discrimination

Sen. Josh Hawley asked Kennedy if he would rescind a rule from the HHS issued under the Biden administration over transgender discrimination,

Under the Affordable Care Act, physicians in the U.S. who receive federal funding must perform medical treatments based on sex, even if they do not support it.

In 2021, the Biden administration issued a rule saying this policy included transgender people.

Kennedy said he would, adding, “That rule is anti-science.”

Jan 30, 2025, 11:57 AM EST

Kennedy refuses to say that COVID vaccines saved lives

Kennedy cast doubt on the lifesaving benefits of the COVID-19 vaccines, saying he doesn't think that "anybody" can say the vaccines saved millions of lives.

A 2022 study from the Yale School of Public Health and University of Maryland Medical School estimated the vaccine saved 3 million lives and prevented 18 million hospitalizations.

PHOTO: Robert F. Kennedy, Jr., nominee to serve as Secretary of Health and Human Services testifies during a Senate Committee on Health, Education, Labor and Pensions hearing for his pending confirmation, Jan. 30, 2025, in Washington.
Robert F. Kennedy, Jr., President Trump's nominee to serve as Secretary of Health and Human Services testifies during a Senate Committee on Health, Education, Labor and Pensions hearing for his pending confirmation, Jan. 30, 2025, in Washington.
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Sen. Bernie Sanders, I-Vt., asked Kennedy about that study, as well as President Donald Trump's comments calling the vaccine "one of the greatest miracles of the ages," and asked if he agreed that vaccines saved millions of lives.

"I don't know. We don't have a good surveillance system, unfortunately," Kennedy said.

-ABC News' Cheyenne Haslett

Jan 30, 2025, 11:38 AM EST

Kennedy: 'Show me where I'm wrong on this'

Kennedy, seeking to defend against past anti-vaccine remarks, said he wants HHS under his potential leadership to have a "gold standard" and "evidence-based science."

"And if you show me where I'm wrong on this, show me a single statement I made about science that is erroneous," he said.

Robert F. Kennedy, Jr., President Trump's nominee to serve as Secretary of Health and Human Services testifies during a Senate Committee on Health, Education, Labor and Pensions hearing for his pending confirmation, Jan. 30, 2025, in Washington.
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Kennedy made a number of false or unfounded statements regarding vaccines, pesticides, and more. A fact-check of some of his claims during his first confirmation hearing can be found here.

Democrats, and some Republicans, are confronting Kennedy throughout this hearing and have been pointing to data that shows vaccines like those for measles, polio, HPV and more are safe.