President Trump not going to change his mind on Syria, even after resignations: Mick Mulvaney

The incoming acting chief of staff said leaving Syria was a campaign promise.

December 23, 2018, 9:13 AM

Incoming acting White House chief of staff Mick Mulvaney said Sunday that President Trump is not going to change his mind about withdrawing troops from Syria, even after both his secretary of defense and top U.S. diplomat for the campaign to defeat ISIS resigned because of the decision.

“Is there any chance the president changes his mind about this and reverses course?” ABC News Chief White House Correspondent Jonathan Karl asked Mulvaney in an interview on “This Week.”

“No, I think the president has told people from the very beginning that he doesn't want us to stay in Syria forever. You're seeing the end result now of two years worth of work,” he said.

Mulvaney is replacing John Kelly as chief of staff in the new year. He has previously served as the director of the Office of Management and Budget.

The president announced via Twitter on Thursday that James Mattis would be retiring at the end of February.

President Donald Trump looks on as Secretary of Defense James Mattis speaks about the spending bill at the White House, March 23, 2018.
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In Mattis’ resignation letter, the secretary of defense said he was leaving the administration so that President Trump could have a cabinet member with views “better aligned” with his own. His resignation came just a day after the president announced he would be pulling all U.S. troops out of Syria, and following news reports that Trump also planned to withdraw thousands of U.S. troops from Afghanistan.

On Sunday, however, Trump took to Twitter again to announce Deputy Defense Secretary Patrick Shanahan would take over the roll in an acting capacity starting Jan 1.

I am pleased to announce that our very talented Deputy Secretary of Defense, Patrick Shanahan, will assume the title of Acting Secretary of Defense starting January 1, 2019. Patrick has a long list of accomplishments while serving as Deputy, & previously Boeing. He will be great!

Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) December 23, 2018

"I am pleased to announce that our very talented Deputy Secretary of Defense, Patrick Shanahan, will assume the title of Acting Secretary of Defense starting January 1, 2019," he wrote. "Patrick has a long list of accomplishments while serving as Deputy, & previously Boeing. He will be great!"

Mulvaney said that he doesn’t think the president was surprised by Mattis’ resignation, referring to an interview Trump did with CBS’ “60 Minutes” where he called Mattis “sort of a Democrat,” and also said he wasn’t aware whether the president tried to convince Mattis to stay.

“Mattis and he just could never get on the same page,” Mulvaney said on “This Week.”

“The president has told people since the campaign that he wanted to get out of Syria. [I] think he’s entitled to have a secretary of defense who is committed to that same end,” he added.

President Donald Trump listens during a signing ceremony for criminal justice reform legislation in the Oval Office of the White House, Dec. 21, 2018, in Washington D.C.
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On Saturday, Brett McGurk, the special presidential envoy for the Global Coalition to Defeat ISIS, also resigned because of Trump’s decision. In an email to staff, McGurk said the president’s decision “came as a shock and was a complete reversal of policy that was articulated to us.” He added that he “could not carry out these new instructions and maintain my integrity.” The contents of the email were first reported by The New York Times and confirmed by ABC News.

Trump tweeted Saturday about the news that McGurk had resigned, saying he didn’t know him and accused the media of “making such a big deal about” his departure.

Last week, before the president wrote on Twitter “We have defeated ISIS in Syria,” McGurk said at a State Department briefing that "Even as the end of the physical caliphate is clearly now coming into sight, the end of ISIS will be a much more long-term initiative...Nobody is declaring a mission accomplished.”

“Very clearly, the military objective is the enduring defeat of ISIS. And if we’ve learned one thing over the years, enduring defeat of a group like this means you can’t just defeat their physical space and then leave,” McGurk added.

In the letter to his staff announcing his resignation, McGurk said that Trump’s sudden decision to pull troops out of Syria “was a complete reversal of policy that was articulated to us.”Referencing the president’s tweet about McGurk, Karl said, “McGurk’s title is the special presidential envoy for the Global Coalition to Counter ISIS. How is it that the president doesn’t know his point person in the battle against ISIS?"

Mick Mulvaney, acting director of the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau (CFPB), and Director of the Office of Management, listens during a news conference at the Department of Justice in Washington, July 11, 2018.
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“You know the answer to that," Mulvaney said. "The administration is thousands of -- the executive branch of government is millions of -- I have no idea who that person is. Never heard of him...until yesterday.”

Mulvaney said McGurk was appointed by former President Obama, which is true, but he also served as a senior official in the George W. Bush White House, serving on his national security staff.

“This is not a Democrat,” Karl said.

“I’m certain he’s well-known within the folks who follow this topic,” Mulvaney said. “But the fact… that the president of the United States doesn’t know him, I just don’t think should cause anybody any concern.”

Mulvaney said that "from the beginning," Trump has been telling people that he was going to withdraw U.S. troops from Syria. If he has to fight against the Defense Department to do that, he’s going to do that. That’s what the president does,” Mulvaney said.“This is a promise kept by the president of the United States. It may upset a lot of people but the folks that voted for the president like it,” he concluded.

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\"I am pleased to announce that our very talented Deputy Secretary of Defense, Patrick Shanahan, will assume the title of Acting Secretary of Defense starting January 1, 2019,\" he wrote. \"Patrick has a long list of accomplishments while serving as Deputy, & previously Boeing. He will be great!\"

Mulvaney said that he doesn’t think the president was surprised by Mattis’ resignation, referring to an interview Trump did with CBS’ “60 Minutes” where he called Mattis “sort of a Democrat,” and also said he wasn’t aware whether the president tried to convince Mattis to stay.

“Mattis and he just could never get on the same page,” Mulvaney said on “This Week.”

“The president has told people since the campaign that he wanted to get out of Syria. [I] think he’s entitled to have a secretary of defense who is committed to that same end,” he added.

On Saturday, Brett McGurk, the special presidential envoy for the Global Coalition to Defeat ISIS, also resigned because of Trump’s decision. In an email to staff, McGurk said the president’s decision “came as a shock and was a complete reversal of policy that was articulated to us.” He added that he “could not carry out these new instructions and maintain my integrity.” The contents of the email were first reported by The New York Times and confirmed by ABC News.

Trump tweeted Saturday about the news that McGurk had resigned, saying he didn’t know him and accused the media of “making such a big deal about” his departure.

Last week, before the president wrote on Twitter “We have defeated ISIS in Syria,” McGurk said at a State Department briefing that \"Even as the end of the physical caliphate is clearly now coming into sight, the end of ISIS will be a much more long-term initiative...Nobody is declaring a mission accomplished.”

“Very clearly, the military objective is the enduring defeat of ISIS. And if we’ve learned one thing over the years, enduring defeat of a group like this means you can’t just defeat their physical space and then leave,” McGurk added.

In the letter to his staff announcing his resignation, McGurk said that Trump’s sudden decision to pull troops out of Syria “was a complete reversal of policy that was articulated to us.”Referencing the president’s tweet about McGurk, Karl said, “McGurk’s title is the special presidential envoy for the Global Coalition to Counter ISIS. How is it that the president doesn’t know his point person in the battle against ISIS?\"

“You know the answer to that,\" Mulvaney said. \"The administration is thousands of -- the executive branch of government is millions of -- I have no idea who that person is. Never heard of him...until yesterday.”

Mulvaney said McGurk was appointed by former President Obama, which is true, but he also served as a senior official in the George W. Bush White House, serving on his national security staff.

“This is not a Democrat,” Karl said.

“I’m certain he’s well-known within the folks who follow this topic,” Mulvaney said. “But the fact… that the president of the United States doesn’t know him, I just don’t think should cause anybody any concern.”

Mulvaney said that \"from the beginning,\" Trump has been telling people that he was going to withdraw U.S. troops from Syria. If he has to fight against the Defense Department to do that, he’s going to do that. That’s what the president does,” Mulvaney said.“This is a promise kept by the president of the United States. It may upset a lot of people but the folks that voted for the president like it,” he concluded.

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