Sep 15, 2011 2:26pm

Eight Amish Men Jailed Over Orange Safety Triangles

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Eight Amish men were jailed after refusing to affix orange reflective safety triangles to their buggies, saying the triangles violated their religious beliefs.

The men belong to the ultraconservative Old Order Swartzentruber Amish sect in western Kentucky and said the bright orange reflector goes against their modesty codes.

“I don’t think it’s right to put somebody in jail for practicing their religious beliefs … but that’s what we’ll do if that’s what it takes to abide by the biblical laws,” Levi Zook, one of the defendants, told the Courier-Journal prior to the hearing.

The men had refused to pay court-imposed fines and were sentenced on Monday to between three and 10 days in jail. According to the Courier-Journal they opted for jail time because they felt paying the fines would “amount to complying with a law they believe violates their religious strictures against wearing bright colors or trusting in manmade symbols for their safety.”

Zook did not end up having to spend time in jail, the Courier-Journal reported, because a friend paid his fine so he would not have to leave his son, who has cerebral palsy.

Randy Haley, the Graves County jailer, told ABC News that as of this morning all but one of the men had been released. The last man will be released Sept. 21.

“They were very nice,” said Haley. “They did anything we asked them to do, we had no problems.”


The Associated Press contributed to this report.

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Just let 18 wheelers run over them and their families! No great loss!

Posted by: OnTheRoad | September 15, 2011, 3:37 pm 3:37 pm

Really??? So Sad that someone could have such a cold attitude. “no great loss” horrible

Posted by: angie | September 15, 2011, 3:59 pm 3:59 pm

That will teach those peaceful, non polluting people a lesson!..Jeeze, you would think that jail space is limited, and it is filling up for this?.. Note to authorities..concentrate on violent perpetrators.

Posted by: MiketheElectrician | September 15, 2011, 4:30 pm 4:30 pm

Way to go Kentucky. I believe it is also against their religion to have their images posted on a national news web site. Your justice stinks.

Posted by: Mark | September 15, 2011, 4:32 pm 4:32 pm

Publishing their image is a violation of their religious rights, but their not muslim or atheist so no one cares.

Posted by: hkdakota | September 15, 2011, 4:57 pm 4:57 pm

When they build their own roads they can create their own laws, until then, their “freedom” to do what they want ends at the edge of the right-of-way.

Posted by: NotAbner | September 15, 2011, 4:58 pm 4:58 pm

What good is a Triangle to a Truck traveling 60 MPH around a curve meeting a slow carriage.
Too Late anyway!! Need something more than a Triangle. Dumb law anyway.

Posted by: Goober | September 15, 2011, 5:37 pm 5:37 pm

When they build their own roads they can create their own laws, until then, their “freedom” to do what they want ends at the edge of the right-of-way.

…Ummmm right, you just keep thinking that. Although they will probably not sue, they probably could make a good case on a few points.

Posted by: greg | September 15, 2011, 5:59 pm 5:59 pm

Atleast, I learned from the comments that there are enough tools in america that are okay with living in a police state. Seems like a dumb law that was written for idiots. Please report how much the fine was and the average cost per day to house an inmate.

Posted by: lackadaisica | September 15, 2011, 6:14 pm 6:14 pm

Damn they’re tall.

Posted by: Lenny | September 15, 2011, 8:33 pm 8:33 pm

Where is the ACLU on this clear violation of civil rights?

Posted by: Steve_1042 | September 15, 2011, 8:54 pm 8:54 pm

Someone should read The Religious Freedom Restoration Act of 1993 and realize that there are less restrictive means of accomplishing the government’s interest in public safety.

Posted by: Zeporah | September 15, 2011, 8:55 pm 8:55 pm

Seriously? This is what the Kentucky police find important enough that they had to lock up 8 members of the most peaceful, law-abiding people in this country? For a sticker??? This is one of the most embarrassing travesties of justice I’ve ever seen or heard of. It’s no wonder they want to live in their own society because this one sucks.

Posted by: Siobhan | September 15, 2011, 9:00 pm 9:00 pm

Leave the Amish alone. Let them live they way they want. They are law abiding people.

Posted by: Kathleen | September 15, 2011, 9:03 pm 9:03 pm

They are so selfish that they do not care about other’s safety.

Posted by: Manolo | September 15, 2011, 9:21 pm 9:21 pm

IMHO, you posters don’t know what you are talking about. I drive through this area and the Amish absolutely need to use these orange safety triangles in this rural farming area. These gentle people with their simple lifestyle have also been criticized for being out at night. They are not being realistic and Kentucky is trying to prevent a tragedy. Lighten up. They need to obey the laws.

Posted by: Jonnie | September 15, 2011, 9:29 pm 9:29 pm

“Way to go Kentucky. I believe it is also against their religion to have their images posted on a national news web site. Your justice stinks.”………….. Actually it was the low-lifes at ABC that posted their picts for the world to see, but we all know ABC doesn’t care… they only want to make news.

Posted by: ohnooooooooooooooooo | September 15, 2011, 9:40 pm 9:40 pm

Agree, many of you do not live near the Amish. At night, I have come up on their carriages and only known they were there because of the reflective orange triangle. I would not want to live with the fact that I wiped out a whole family because they didn’t want to put on an orange triangle while traveling on public roads.

Posted by: Liv | September 15, 2011, 9:43 pm 9:43 pm

Where does it say that in the Bible? Might be a stupid law, but quit sighting the Bible. Never heard Jesus say that orange triangles were bad or against anything

Posted by: Katla | September 15, 2011, 9:51 pm 9:51 pm

Did you notice that several of them look the same and they are all about 5’4″ tall. Hobbits maybe.

Posted by: Lloyd | September 15, 2011, 10:05 pm 10:05 pm

I live in Amish country as well. If they wish to use the roads they need to use these on their wagons. We have accidents all of the time even with them as they’re still difficult to see. Some of you taking up for them? Well, they cheat all the time with their stuff. They’ll live. The modesty codes are not really religious – more a way of life to keep them cloistered.

Posted by: secondlook | September 15, 2011, 10:11 pm 10:11 pm

Whatever your beliefs are, the orange signs are not meant just for their safety, but also for the safety of other travelers, who are not amish, as well.

Posted by: M | September 15, 2011, 10:12 pm 10:12 pm

It was not two days ago that Hilary Clinton delivered a statement from the State Department, and declared the state of religion in the uS was in good hands and everything was great there in Washington DC … or were-ever she was at the time.
Yes … a little sticker is a large thing to complain about religiously, but it is also a little thing for us to argue on … and on about. That’s probably why the Amish men did what they did.
I know how I felt about a receiving little ticket for J-walking once in Long Beach especially when appearing at court, the arresting officer did not show up. I thought that meant the case would be dismissed … instead they offered me a half off price as a fine. I laughed and stated the court was ill of the 14th amendment, etc. and lost my driving privilege as my punishment for being so upset over a little ticket. But today I smile … have a good day.

Posted by: George Ronald Adkisson | September 15, 2011, 10:22 pm 10:22 pm

Personally, This hole thing is a bunch of bs, Just shows once again the law has nothing better to do (like putting good people in jail) this is goverment controling the little people just like Russia used to do to thier people and now our so called freedom that soldiers r dieing for is being vastly taken from us!!!!! Yes, they need to do some kind of compromise for everybodys safty if they r going to drive them at night!! BUT REALLY JAIL WAS A BUNCH OF BS!!!!

Posted by: Wendy | September 15, 2011, 10:24 pm 10:24 pm

Uh, some folks have no idea what is being discussed here. It is not a sticker, it is a large reflective orange triangle meant to increase visibility and hence safety. They are not required to have powerful lights on the back like cars as they do not beleive in using electricity. So, like bicycles, they are required to have some kind of reflector that is commiserate with the size of the vehicle. This is a flagrant safety violation and they were treated just like someone who drives a truck without working lights or reflectors. Using public roads entails a bit of responsibility.

Posted by: Mad Dog | September 15, 2011, 10:58 pm 10:58 pm

Cool Now if only other Americans would stand up to the state. Like when the Authorities go after kids with lemonade stands and grandmas selling pies from an – uninspected kitchen- oh my that’s an evil thing

Posted by: John | September 15, 2011, 11:06 pm 11:06 pm

I know how ultraconservatives of any variety can be, but what the heck do safety triangles have to do with modestly? It’s not there for looks, it’s there so people can avoid you when you are driving your dark black carriage. I suppose in their mind it draws attention to them which is a breach of modesty but any reasonable (big stretch here) person would agree that it’s safer for both the carriage and the vehicles that had too share the road with them. Maybe I should disconnect my tail lights on my car so as not to be immodest on dark highways at night.

Posted by: Robert Smith | September 15, 2011, 11:21 pm 11:21 pm

I’m sorry I can’t leave this alone. I’m going to start an order where you where nothing but black and walk down the middle of the road because of the Biblical admonishment to turn “neither to the right nor the left”

Posted by: Robert Smith | September 15, 2011, 11:38 pm 11:38 pm

What a waste of Law Enforcement…. The DA has just show he is a “JOKE”.

Posted by: mdbaudry | September 16, 2011, 8:08 am 8:08 am

Robert, go ahead and start your religion. When you have you have 500 years of tradition in good citizenship and good stewardship. When you create a stable culture that takes care of itself and asks little of it’s neighbors or fellow citizens. When you show the courage to stand up for your beliefs despite government attempts to force change – whether those governments are in Bern, Zurich, Germany, Russia, the Ukraine or Kentucky. Then Robert, I’ll try to show you a little respect. In the meantime why don’t you try showing these people a little respect. I like to think we still value those with the courage of their convictions – whether we agree with them or not.

Posted by: Randy | September 16, 2011, 8:12 am 8:12 am

I pray Jacob wasn’t arrested. What a horrible thing. They only go out at night to court, not to cause trouble. Then often, not far from home. What nonsense! The government should be ashamed!

Posted by: Dody | September 16, 2011, 8:37 am 8:37 am

Everyone….. Who cares!!!! They broke the law, and owned up to it. Case closed.

Posted by: Bob Moore | September 16, 2011, 8:55 am 8:55 am

These people are not immune from the law. If they drive on public right of way, then the law must be followed. As much as I despise Cops on power trip, in this case they did the right thing. What else would serve as sufficient punishment ?

Posted by: JAQUEBAUER | September 16, 2011, 8:56 am 8:56 am

How about a compromise? Instead of using the big ORANGE triangles, why not use big WHITE reflective triangles. White is a modest color and the white reflectures are highly visiable. The Amish are then following the law and the need for public safety is met within their religious beliefs.

Posted by: NewsJunkie | September 16, 2011, 9:45 am 9:45 am

You can always tell Americans. But you can’t tell them much.

Posted by: Beres | September 16, 2011, 10:11 am 10:11 am

Dody – I care. You care if you bothered to read the article and the comments. I care because I want to work against the hate directed at people just because they are different. The kind of aggression reflected in the previous post saddens me. I care because I’m an America, and I want America to stick to it’s core values which I believe include the freedom to practice one’s religion, and the responsibility to find ways to get along with each other.
These men knowingly broke the law, and are accepting responsibility for it. They will continue to do so until a reasonable compromise can be reached, or until the upper courts overturn the judge’s decision or both. ‘
The glee with which so many are posting – the joy they seem to be taking in the states use of coercion to force conformity – is alarming.

Posted by: Randy | September 16, 2011, 1:23 pm 1:23 pm

After reading these comments, I am ashamed of my country. How did we get to the place where heartless cruel sarcasm rules?

Posted by: American Citizen | September 16, 2011, 6:26 pm 6:26 pm

Too bad the Amish are going suicidal cult. Twisting their own religion out of line to seek death at the evil hands of modern automobiles and “show your faith, take a chance” logic.

Because the full text against bright colors is a warning against use on personal property and being to caught up in fashion and self-aggrandizement. The text does not mention any other reasons to avoid bright colors.

Similarly the text against relying on symbols is a distortion of text against icons of idolatry and foreign spirits and gods. Nothing is mentioned about symbols in general – I think you will find Amish in general put label on poisonous materials/medicines versus food. Taken to its ultimate – common tools are symbols and some tools like pitchfork often have warning of danger associated with them…does that mean these Amish types will stop using dangerous tools because people rely on being able to recognize those tools to act appropriately around them? I doubt it.

At best just some Amish activists reacting to sharing roads with dangerous modern automobiles..especially when many younger folk go out of their way not to honor displayed orane triangles (buzz the carriage in the hotrod time).

Posted by: well-duh | September 16, 2011, 11:08 pm 11:08 pm

As another commenter stated, they must comply with the law when using PUBLIC roads. If they want to stick to their own land and property, then they can do whatever they want, but if they want to use public roads, then they better be prepared to uphold laws that are intended to protect other people using the road. If they don’t want to use the stickers, they can catch a ride with someone else or walk. There are other options if they don’t like the laws that apply to public roads.

Posted by: Casey | September 17, 2011, 2:46 am 2:46 am

another case for that tyrannical supposed law on separation of church and state.

Posted by: cygon | September 20, 2011, 11:22 am 11:22 am

THEY TOOK PICTURES OF THEM!!!!! That is against their religious believes….graven image/pride and such……………..What is the big public safety? If a car hot them they aren’t going to sue…..they would bury their dead and build a new carraige……Our govt is getting to big and intrusive,,,,,,,,Shame on them

Posted by: R Reeves | September 20, 2011, 11:32 am 11:32 am

When they came for the Amish I said nothing………..

Posted by: ZeKe | September 21, 2011, 8:24 am 8:24 am

I have had nothing but contempt for them since a friend pointed out the puppy mill things to me. We don’t buy any of their goods anymore. If my headlights or brake lights don’t work I get a ticket. Heck in Ohio you have to turn on your headlights if you are using your windshield wipers. Why should they be allowed to not put something on there so they are visible. Protect cars and their carriages. Their poor horses shouldn’t be put in danger. Maybe they treat them like they do puppies…

Posted by: concerned | September 23, 2011, 2:03 pm 2:03 pm

I’m not sure what frightens me more. The fact that half the posters cannot spell or that most are missing the point. It’s not about rather or not they broke the law. They know they did, and did it to make a point, so kudos to them. The real point is, they were JAILED for a minor traffic violation. Those of you bemoaning the Amish’s flagrant misuse of the roads should stop and think about how many times you speed when you get behind the wheel? Have you ever spent a night in jail for a broken tail light or for not signaling before a turn? Heck, most people charged with DUI are not jailed on their first offense. Do not pay your fine? Oh, did you go to jail or receive a collections notice? Please tell me, what law enforcement agency has the time to arrest and jail people for such a diminutive act? Seriously! If they do not have bigger fish to fry, then they are not looking hard enough! How many violent criminals, domestic abusers, drug dealers and various other filth did they pass by on their way to raid the Amish?

Posted by: Truely | September 25, 2011, 1:29 am 1:29 am

What happened to “obey the laws of the land”?

Posted by: mel | October 18, 2011, 2:37 pm 2:37 pm

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