Police, Movers Refuse to Evict 103-Year-Old Woman
Tuesday was one of the dreariest days that Atlanta has had this year. Temperatures plunged to 35 degrees, almost 20 degrees cooler than over the weekend. Yet it was the day that 103-year-old Vinia Hall and her 83-year-old daughter were scheduled to be evicted from the modest home that Hall had lived in for over 53 years.
“I love it. It’s a mansion,” Hall told ABC affiliate WSB-TV.
For the sheriff’s deputies and movers commissioned by JP Morgan Chase, who issued the foreclosure on behalf of Deutsche Bank, to evict the family would have been near-heartless.
“It was a cold, nasty day,” said Tracy Flanagan of the Fulton County Sheriff’s Office. “When the deputies got there, all they had were names on a paper. You have to use sensitivity and take a second look at it.”
Flanagan said that the family’s age contributed to the decision not to evict but also that the date of the eviction notice was a driving factor. The foreclosure notice was issued in 2008 after Lee’s grandson, Ali Muhammad, who legally owns the house, failed to make regular payments. He took the case to court where the trial court ruled in favor of the bank. Chase issued an eviction notice in 2010 and scheduled the eviction for Tuesday, Nov. 29.
Hall said that she knew about the forthcoming eviction but pleaded for the bank to leave her in peace.
“Please don’t come in and disturb me no more. When I’m gone, you all can come back and do whatever they want to,” Hall told ABC affiliate WSB-TV.
Now, Chase has heeded Hall’s request and is working to make a way that the family can stay in their house.
“We will work out a resolution to keep them in the home,” said Chase spokesman Tom Kelly. He said that Chase did not initially know who the occupants were because the deed is in Muhammad’s name.
Hall’s case brought together a host of community members determined to keep her from being forced out. In addition to the sheriff’s office, community activists and even a Georgia state senator, Vincent Fort, were seeking solutions.
Fort said that he is outraged that Chase would consider kicking out an elderly woman and her daughter. The daughter had to be rushed to the hospital following the attempted eviction after she had difficulty breathing. According to Fort, she is back at home now.
“You can get a bailout for big banks for no bailout for Big Momma?” he asked.
For Hall, who is just weeks shy of her 104 birthday, her prayers for benevolence seemed to have worked.
“No, I knew that they know what they were doing. God don’t let them do wrong,” she said.
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Im glad that the bank made the morally right decision in letting her stay as it is easy to see both sides of this story.
The first side is her side where she is too old to get a job to pay for the home.
Meanwhile you have the bank’s side where they loaned a substantial amount of money to someone who didn’t pay up and technically it’s the banks house.
Posted by: adam | November 30, 2011, 4:55 pm 4:55 pm
What happen to the sense of humanity and love? Has the world gotten so cold that if can’t see when people are in desperate need, or when they are in a hopeless situation. Be careful when you touch the anointed children of God, for the swift hand of God can come quickly against those that will suffer to bring harm to his children. Let this beautiful woman, rest in her old age peacefulyl. I’m sure the banks will suffer no loss.
Posted by: GodsLove | November 30, 2011, 5:03 pm 5:03 pm
“We will work out a resolution to keep them in the home,” said Chase” ~~~~~~~~~~ They should have done this in the first place.
Posted by: Minorkey1 | November 30, 2011, 5:03 pm 5:03 pm
So the banks just going to let them stay? Hmm thousansd of people lose there homes everyday I don’t want to sound heartless but how is this any difference. The house has been in foreclosure since ’08 that gave them 3 years to find an alternate living situation correct? I’m sure single moms who have children with disabilities would lose there home, since when does the “situation” make a difference? And I’m sure my taxes are paying for that ambulance ride also cause I’m sure they are both on medicare / medicade.
Posted by: Brian | November 30, 2011, 5:10 pm 5:10 pm
Heartbreaking…BUT!
Did Chase know the ages of the women they were evicting? These women don’t own the home and had almost 3 years to find another place to live. How is the bank the evil one here? The blame should be placed on the grandson!
Posted by: lucrezaborgia | November 30, 2011, 5:17 pm 5:17 pm
How about this question: Why are we blaming the bank and not the grandson? The bank has allowed the family to live there for three years, and I guess no one is making any payments at all.
Posted by: Sheila | November 30, 2011, 5:19 pm 5:19 pm
Yes, Brian, but you are NOT sure about a lot of things…like that they may have both worked ALL of their lives to have the FEW benefits they have in medicare/medicade….that it is actually CHEAPER to keep them in their homes than to be wards of the state….that both of these women may have been frauded by their family member who they trusted to take care of the finances….these are OUR elders, they deserve a break and they deserve respect AND the bank can come to some kind of mutally acceptable agreement they both parties will win with….and in the meantime, the community shouldn’t forget them, AND if they need to be moved to an assisted living situation that those community members will follow through and help them…they need help…even my own dear 82 year old Dad needs help and I wouldn’t expect him to figure it out for himself….!
Posted by: Common Sense | November 30, 2011, 5:21 pm 5:21 pm
Good to see that there’s at least some degree of common sense in this case – as far as Chase’s position, my take is the PR value of this story alone most likely exceeds the amount of the default by several times. Win-win for everyone – good job!
Posted by: David | November 30, 2011, 5:28 pm 5:28 pm
How does she still have a mortgage??
Posted by: Frank | November 30, 2011, 5:37 pm 5:37 pm
This lady has lived in this house for 53 years. It seems to me that the house should be paid for by now. But in some cases, particularly ones like this, that some exceptions can be made. It’s not as if the bank is going to fold over it. Especially when the temperature is 35 degrees outside. Kudos to the sheriffs dept. You did good.
Posted by: howdymo1 | November 30, 2011, 5:46 pm 5:46 pm
Wow Brian you sure are sure about alot of things! Where did you hear that the bank is just going to let them stay? The artical said that they are going to work on a resolution to keep them in their home. That doesn’t mean they are going to stay for free! And how are you just so sure that tax payers are paying for the ambulance unless you know these people and know their medical insurance and financial business? Just a lil FYI…..You do sound Very Cold Hearted!
Posted by: RonnieJo | November 30, 2011, 5:58 pm 5:58 pm
When was the court hearing? Before or after all the fraud was found to have happened on bank documents? The banks have cheated people so much, anyone with common sense shouldn’t feel bad for the bank in the least. With all the fraud the banks committed plus signing documents (forging) signatures, can we believe anything that they say or do. Strange no one has gone to jail for all the forgries and fraud that the banks committed. Why?
Posted by: Chris | November 30, 2011, 5:58 pm 5:58 pm
Hey Senator Fort, Now that you got your soundbite why don’t you go do the job the people elected you to do. You and your washington breathren make me puke.
Posted by: Jbob | November 30, 2011, 6:00 pm 6:00 pm
Why don’t the community activists and state senator Fort make the payments? How about Ali? Why is the bank the bad guy here and not the deadbeat, Ali?
Posted by: steve | November 30, 2011, 6:02 pm 6:02 pm
I would like to hear what the grandson has to say for himself, it sounds like the whole thing was his fault.
Posted by: Theresa | November 30, 2011, 6:07 pm 6:07 pm
Hold the Grandson accountable but leave the old folks alone to live in peace…
Posted by: Lori | November 30, 2011, 6:15 pm 6:15 pm
Did Chase receive bailout money to stay open? Should the CEO at Chase forgo his huge bonus and allow this 103 year old woman to continue living in the house? If they evict the lady, the bank can make a quick sell of the property. Banks are in the business of making money, not being compassionate.
Posted by: NoFlyZone2 | November 30, 2011, 6:16 pm 6:16 pm
Chase SUcks. got money from the Gov’t for bailout and has an103yr old woman evicted. Just closed my Chase business accounts. Can;t support these crimminals anylonger.
Posted by: TMAC | November 30, 2011, 6:22 pm 6:22 pm
Cain’s decision to stay in the race depends not on the wife, but on the series of allegations of sexual assault. That is the story at the end of the day. Next!
Posted by: NoFlyZone2 | November 30, 2011, 6:22 pm 6:22 pm
I hate to sound heartless but everyday a mother with her child becomes homeless and they dont get the same amount of sympathy these two ladies did. i understand payments are due but there are family who are in the same position and the sheriff still throws them out. and they had plenty of time to make of arrangements ,, they just ignored them,,, that’s not right.
Posted by: CATHY | November 30, 2011, 6:23 pm 6:23 pm
Anyone who defends any of the SOB banks under ANY circumstances should be declared mentally disabled. These SOB banks stole billions from people, stole billions in fraudulent and bogus securities, and then got welfare cheese handouts from taxpayers and ZERO interest rates and they have the brass cojones to do what they do. They only backed off because of the heat they got and because of the media attention. Otherwise, they would put these folks out in a heartbeat. They would stomp on babies if they thought they could make money out of it. They are the most obscene bunch of worms ever on this earth. They should all fail and then maybe we can see a new banking system emerge where honesty and values mean something. They don’t deserve anything but misery just like they gave millions of Americans.
Posted by: jake | November 30, 2011, 6:24 pm 6:24 pm
I wish there was a way any one who is financed by Chase coulld move their loans and those of us who have Chase cards change to something else. But this system of ours is so fueled with evil people trying to make President Obama look bad they don’t care who gets eatten up shame on you Chase for not checking this matter out before today. But i know you’ll were toooooooooooooooo busy .
Posted by: Pam S. | November 30, 2011, 6:30 pm 6:30 pm
Fulton County Sheriffs office who saved old ladies from eviction vs. Tennessee firefighters who let a house burn over an unpaid $75 service charge. Coming soon to Celebrity Boxing! Let 103 year old grandma and her 83 year old daughter be ring girls!
Posted by: rio67 | November 30, 2011, 6:57 pm 6:57 pm
Count me in among those who are puzzled that she could have lived in this house 53 years and it still wasn’t paid for? Sounds like the son was up to some shenanigans and did a little ‘creative financing’ to improve his own bottom line while his Mom and Sister were left to hang.
Posted by: xtch3 | November 30, 2011, 7:33 pm 7:33 pm
Oustanding the nerve if Deutebank. I am proud of our police officers and the movers.The nerve after all the bank bailouts. They are rotten in my book. A 103 yearold lady my goodness,. The bank should hide in shame.
Posted by: Steve | November 30, 2011, 8:07 pm 8:07 pm
I meant Chase should be ashmaed.. They reported Deutche bank in Atlanta. What is even more shameful is that they had to know. She tried to get them to work something out andff was ignored. So someone knew. Her 83 year old daughter was rushed to the hospital over this. Shameful for sure.
Posted by: Steve | November 30, 2011, 8:12 pm 8:12 pm
Hey Hank and Henry Paulson come out your rat hole and help this woman you speculated, created derivitives against and pay her house in full…..You profited now it is time to give back…THIEF! You put Eliot Spitzer down.
Why are you afraid of this WOMAN?
Posted by: camels eye | November 30, 2011, 8:25 pm 8:25 pm
Mortgage Loans are not corrupt. They ARE corrupt during UNDERWRITING. This woman did not and has not created an underwriting for HER LOAN. It was repackaged with HIDDEN FORMULAS far beyond her knowledge. She signed thinking she had a good deal because she LIVED in her home many years..
I SALUTE the 99%
Posted by: Camels eye | November 30, 2011, 8:40 pm 8:40 pm
I like how people who preach love and compassion on here are the first ones to jump to the conclusion that its all the banks fault. Is it a rule that when you preach about love and compassion all the time that means you don’t actually look at the situation and you bare no common sense? First off, how do you live in a house for 53 years and not have it paid off? What about the worthless grandson who left his grandma and aunt out to dry, the grandson obviously had no love or compassion and didn’t pay anything for THREE years while he knew the consequences of his actions.
Posted by: Dan | November 30, 2011, 9:52 pm 9:52 pm
The banks auction of the foreclosed property and often it is a subsidiary that purchases of the property at a fraction of the worth and then resells the property at it’s estimated worth, making a healthy profit.
Working with the homeowner is time consuming and not as profitable.
Posted by: nacrandell | November 30, 2011, 9:53 pm 9:53 pm
Mrs. Hall has lived 103 years soon to be 104 yrs old-she had paid her debt Chase Bank should send her the deed to the house for her 104th birthday and stamp it paid in full….there is nothing else she should owe anyone…that includes lights, water, gas, food and transportation…..Does anyone have the email address to Chase Bank we all should email,call, fax, the alone with Chanel 2 to make sure this happens….
Posted by: Yvet | November 30, 2011, 10:11 pm 10:11 pm
I think after everyone involved saw an elderly lady, they all stepped back and did what they should do. The daughter was the one taken to the hospital for breathing troubles, this elderly lady wants to be left to what was surely at one times was her house. Let’s thank everyone involved if they respect this elderly and surely wise women’s wishes let her stay in her house. I feel sure the grandson should have made the payments, but if the house stays a few more years with this lady, obviously the bank has made it without these payments for some years, let’s pray she can and the bank can make it a few more.
Posted by: t | November 30, 2011, 10:28 pm 10:28 pm
To those saying these 2 very elderly ladies had 3 years to get out, are you serious? How are they meant to get out & search for a place to live? We don’t know the full story here, it seems they may have handed over their finances to the grandson to manage, not surprising at their age. There are many reasons why their grandson may have got into trouble, we don’t know if he lost his job, got sick, had an accident or what happened. The spirit of the Grinch is still alive & well in some US citizens it seems. Hope you never find yourself in similar circumstances.
Posted by: LGH | November 30, 2011, 10:43 pm 10:43 pm
If I had to guess, the reason it was in grandsons name probably has something to do with Medicaid/social security benefits. You cannot have but so much disposable income an property in your name while on social security. My grandparents had to sign their house over to their children several years before they became age wise eligible so that they COULD recieve their benefits. That is the messed up part of social security. People work all their lives, get old enough to retire, and risk being “hurt” because they did something with their life!
Anyway. I work from a bank. Once court cases are filed, you have to go through proceedings. If these procedures were still going on, then no… Payments could not have been made. Who knows what happened to the grandson. For all we know he could be dead. not to mention… If she is not on any of the paperwork, they couldn’t talk to her to work out a deal anyway!
I am very proud of chase bank standing up for what is right and trying to find a way to let this lady live in the house!
Posted by: Kristen | November 30, 2011, 10:49 pm 10:49 pm
So they have been leaving rent free for three years and will continue to do so? Where do I sign up for a free house?
Posted by: SamJ | November 30, 2011, 10:56 pm 10:56 pm
So, because there are “thousands of single mothers” being evicted, and not being helped, nobody should be helped? If they’re getting Medicaid, and medicare, you can bet they’ve probably earned it, and a whole lot more they’re not getting. This woman is 103 yrs old, which means she was born in 1908. Which means she lived through Jim Crow, and segregation, and wasn’t that far removed from slavery itself. Trust me ,she’s owed a lot more than the right to die in her home.
Posted by: randy | November 30, 2011, 11:02 pm 11:02 pm
Keep in mind people that we could have been in the same situation and we would’ve wanted favor of the Lord. But praises go up to the lord for he is an awesome God all by himself and he really showed up and showed out.
Posted by: shay | November 30, 2011, 11:16 pm 11:16 pm
The banks must have know the age of these people but still tried to evict. Now the banks claim they are good citizens. The sooner the bankers are in jail and their assets liberated the better. Occupy Chase-JP Morgan!
Posted by: Jack | November 30, 2011, 11:17 pm 11:17 pm
Did anyone notice the Mercedes CLK 320 and Toyota Land Cruiser parked in the front yard??
Not sure if the cars belong to that household. Even as late model used cars they have a combined worth probably in excess of the foreclosure sale value of that house.
Posted by: Dave | December 1, 2011, 1:01 am 1:01 am
Chase only wants to APPEAR to be helping families stay in their homes…. If they can take the loss of selling for a fraction of what the property is worth why not reduce the principle and write off the rest. then the family can afford the payments and keep what they worked so hard for…
If chase would stop building huge new branches and paying for all the postage and paper that says they want to help and forward the money to ACTUALLY help alot of people wouldnt be in this mess
Posted by: screwed by chase | December 1, 2011, 1:05 am 1:05 am
Boy…some of you are some really sick, demented, heartless people. I bet if some of you all saw Jesus Christ sitting on the pavement as a beggar you’d go over and kick him while shouting “get a job you bums!”
I bet it never occurs to any of you that it could be very well possible that both of them are on a fixed retirement income. Or that both of them have medical expenses that exceed what Medicare pays for. You all have no idea whats going on…but yet you can’t find one iota of compassion in your hearts for a 104 year old woman. Not even in Christmas season.
Jesus Christ…what is happening to the people in this country? Its turning into Mad Max world.
Posted by: Decentfolks | December 1, 2011, 1:39 am 1:39 am
I remember reading about this a little while back. The grandson deliberately did not pay the mortgage because he didn’t think they would actually evict such elderly ladies. The grandson is scum. The older article did not specify why the house was in his name or why money was still owed… but I speculate that the older woman signed the house over to her grandson and he took a 2nd and/or 3rd mortgage out on the place for money. I am happy that the elderly women are not going to be thrown out on the street, but I feel that some creative punishment should be due to the grandson for his creative financing.
Posted by: Jessica R | December 1, 2011, 3:04 am 3:04 am
“The banks must have know the age of these people but still tried to evict.”
The mortgage was in her grandson’s name. His name is on the paperwork, so how could they know who’s actually living in the house? Do you really think a big company like JP Morgan Chase knows the occupants of every house they hold mortgages on? Somehow, I don’t think so. All they look at is whether or not the mortgage is being paid, and when it’s not they deal directly with the person who’s name is on it.
I fully believe that the guy from Chase showed up, expecting to find the grandson and his family living there. And when he saw that it was just a 103 year old lady and her 80 some year old daughter, he stopped and said “There is NO WAY that I’m going to be the one responsible for this.”
But this does raise another thought: if they CAN feasibly work with this lady, why have they refused to work with people up until now?
Posted by: AmericaThePitiful | December 1, 2011, 4:42 am 4:42 am
Laws are only valid until those who enforce them refuse to do so. Every judge in the world can order something be done, but the judge who continues to order an unenforceable edict brings disrespect on their court.
“Lex mala, lex nulla.” (An evil law, is no law). –Thomas Aquinas
Posted by: Larry Pierson | December 1, 2011, 6:17 am 6:17 am
Age is no reason not to evict these people. The courts made a ruling, the mortgage was not paid, the house was forclosed, eviction notices were issued. THEY KNEW THEY WERE GOING TO BE EVICTED AND HAD AMPLE TIME TO MAKE ALTERNATIVE PLANS. This is a blatant act of someone willing disobeying a court order, but people think that is ok because they are old, boo hoo, they are not entitled to a free ride. That is whats wrong with this country….people expecting and feeling entitled to a free ride.
Posted by: reallypeople | December 1, 2011, 6:19 am 6:19 am
Good lord. Have we lost all sense of humanity? Poor ladies…I wish them all the best. “God don’t let you do wrong”
Posted by: Montell J. CPA, CFP, PHD | December 1, 2011, 7:44 am 7:44 am
When I first heard this story, I wanted to reach for my check book. It is appalling and I am very glad that the Sheriffs’ deputies didn’t evict both the ladies in this house. I wanted to find out the address so I could find out how much they might owe to see if it was something that I could help with. The tax information shows that Kathelyn Cornelius sold the house to Ali S Muhammad for $129,500 on 11/15/2002. That’s a lot of money she was paid for her property, which Mr Muhammad allowed her and her sister to live in. He didn’t pay the mortgage and DEUTSCHE BANK NATIONAL TRUST COMPANY TR bought the house back on 3/3/2009 for $17,000. This isn’t something that has happened out of the blue and I do have a hard time, knowing the facts, to see this as a scam and a cute cover for what amounts to theft. In this World, and in this age, you have to look beneath the illusory surface, even if it is a pair of sweet Grannies.
Posted by: LC, Atlanta | December 1, 2011, 8:46 am 8:46 am
Let the bank go in and move her if they want her out so bad, and if she dies then the bank can be the bad guys not the authorities. Of our course the bank doesnt want to be the ones that give her a heart attack it might make people change banks….
Posted by: Mimi | December 1, 2011, 9:12 am 9:12 am
Would the bank evict anyone that is current on their mortgage? Who is breaking a promise here? The bank? Apparently the word of someone is not important in a world where no one takes personal responsibility and everything is equivocated. Lets make it personal If you work for any company (meaning you bring some worth to our country’s GDP), there are going to be accounts receivables due to your paycheck provider. If they don’t get paid, then someone, maybe you, stand to lose your job. Does that make you feel good? Did not think so.
Posted by: DAY | December 1, 2011, 9:27 am 9:27 am
i feel bad for old lady but police should be reprimanded for not doing there jobs. if police start deciding which laws they want to enforce then we would have complete chaos
Posted by: cakehole | December 1, 2011, 9:37 am 9:37 am
The cops did the right thing. Who would throw a centurian out in the cold? The foreclosure was due to a refinance. When it went into foreclosure, they TRIED to pay back the bank, but was told it was too late. You can’t tell me something can’t be worked out. NOW due to all of the negative publicity, the bank wants to work with the family to resolve the problem and let the little lady finish out her life there. Something finally good from the media.
Posted by: GaPeech | December 1, 2011, 9:55 am 9:55 am
I am still trying to figure out you can live in a house for 53 years and still have a note on it. That’s crazy but big up to the Fulton County Sheriff Dept for having some compassion. We live in a horrible time where our seniors need our help, if we did more helping instead of fussing and complaining the world would be a better place to live.
Posted by: Thank God | December 1, 2011, 10:19 am 10:19 am
How I read it. the grandson is late on payments. not the grandlady. shame on her grandson. i hope he feels really bad, ifhe has any heart. our elderly are so volnerable. it’s too bad you can’t even rely on our own families.
Posted by: dee | December 1, 2011, 10:38 am 10:38 am
Thank God humanity over-ruled the All Mighty Dollar
Posted by: CP | December 1, 2011, 10:48 am 10:48 am
The elderly lady probably let her grandson use her house as collateral for a loan and when he defaulted there went her home. Never trust family in money situations, they will bend you over every time. I’m glad Chase is letting them stay, they should be jailing the grandson though. They will just come take the house when it’s vacated. They have waited 3 years to foreclose they can wait a little longer.
Posted by: Lisa | December 1, 2011, 10:56 am 10:56 am
Thank God humanity over-ruled the All Mighty Dollar.
It is about time folks in charge used correct, decent and moral judgment.
Remember: What you make happen for others, GOD makes happen for you.
Posted by: CP | December 1, 2011, 10:56 am 10:56 am
I think something needs to be done about these cops for refusing to perform duties in which they’re legally obligated to perform. Nobody, 103 or not, should be allowed to live in a house on someone else’s dime. Why should Chase pay for this lady to live in a house for free? Still, the worse part is the cops refusing to do their jobs. The last time I checked, cops weren’t supposed to decide what laws were “just” as they are not qualified to make such a decision. They are merely here to enforce the law-whether they agree with it or not.
Posted by: Chuck | December 1, 2011, 11:40 am 11:40 am
it’s in someone’s name…. why aren’t the named owners paying the mortgage?? maybe the 103 AND 89 YEAR OLDS CAN’T PAY but the ALI MUHAMMED owner can’t??? why…. apparently younger and able to take ownership??? but nott responsibility??? This is that whole someone owes me mentality…. it’s been in foreclosure since 08… move the ladies to a SUPERVISED care high rise for 200 per month ….safer for all
Posted by: mar | December 1, 2011, 12:11 pm 12:11 pm
Hope someone lets her stay.
JP Morgan Chase hires Death Row Inmates that have been paroled, maybe they will show the same Mercy for her. The state picks up most of their salaries. Maybe they will be really charitable this Christmas. It’s in the hands of the Bankers.
Posted by: Liz Ann | December 1, 2011, 12:11 pm 12:11 pm
Good for them! It’s good to see law enforcement officers who defy orders for the sake of what’s right.
The real criminals are Chase and the rest of the greedy banking industry that threw this country into the second-worse economic crisis in our history. Kudos to the cops for picking the right side this time around.
Posted by: Richard | December 1, 2011, 12:14 pm 12:14 pm
Thank GOD for common sense!
Posted by: Don | December 1, 2011, 12:22 pm 12:22 pm
I live in Atlanta and feel for this family. It is obviously not these ladies fault or maybe not even the banks. I would love to see the media follow up on the Grandson, Ali Muhammad. How did he put his grandmother in this position? How did he take control of her house? Did he refinance and pull $50-$70,000 out? Where did the money go? Did any of this money go to help with her expenses? If any of this was unethical on his part, he should be blasted and embarassed by the media not the bank. Stealing from your grandmother? Shame on you if it is true. I would hope that Sen. Fort would dig a little deeper to find the truth and hold accountable the real culprit whether it be the bank or the grandson. If this guy is in the wrong, I hope he doesn’t get away with this while the media and politicians use half of the whole story for their gain. I am glad they get to stay awhile longer while the bank tries to work things out.
Posted by: Jeff | December 1, 2011, 12:51 pm 12:51 pm
You can’t discriminate for age when lending, why discriminate when foreclosing or evicting. The occupants don’t appear to be the owner or borrower so if the bank now owns the home, they don’t have a right to live in it. Businesses don’t give away free products just for PR. If you want the banks to go bust like Greece – keep on thinking it is ok to allow people to not make payments. See how the economy will be like then.
Posted by: Sheila | December 1, 2011, 12:57 pm 12:57 pm
That’s right, folks. It’s the evil bank’s fault again! Not the family who somehow managed to occupy a house for 53 years and STILL not own it.
Posted by: kireina | December 1, 2011, 12:58 pm 12:58 pm
bottom line – if these 2 would have been kicked out that day, at least 1, if not both, would have died due to exposure. is a few dollars to a megacorporation worth it? they and the sheriff’s dept made a decision that shows even they can be human sometimes
Posted by: larlarme | December 1, 2011, 1:00 pm 1:00 pm
Cakehole does have a good point. I am having the same problem with chase. After getting 3-4 months behind on a property they refused to accept payments. They went straight to foreclosure proceedings. I am trying to work out a loan modification now but the redtape is amazing. If these banks would just reamortize the mortgages to 40-50 years, maybe drop the interest rate alittle, no principal reduction (I do not believe that is fair) and just get homeowners to the other side of the recession (3-5 years), they would stabilize their assets and make up on interest payments in the long run. Or they would make alot more money than a foreclosure once the loan is refinanced in a few years. I am still trying to figure out the economics and business sense of foreclosing on a $100,000 mortgage, evicting people, and then reselling a vacant and by then broken into and stripped out home for $30-40,000. Great time to be an investor with lots of Cash.
Posted by: Jeff | December 1, 2011, 1:10 pm 1:10 pm
This story is filtered too much, everywhere I read. The Sheriffs did not act only on impulse. They are good officers in that they followed protocol and contacted the chief of Fulton county sheriff’s office. The Movers waited for the answer also. After the chief was told of the condition he told the officers to stand down and discontinue the eviction process. The movers then saw the officers turn and walk back to their cruisers and they did the same and walked back to their truck. This situation was more than simply disobeying orders and needs to be told that way. All parties involved used compassion, common sense, and intelligence.
Remember that please!
Posted by: Pocket_rocket | December 1, 2011, 1:18 pm 1:18 pm
For you knuckleheads that try to defend the banks, answer this situation; If its just business then why should the banks have been given cash for not being evicted from their resident of business for failing to pay its obligation known as a bailout. If it were just business they should have closed down like any other business that can’t pay its bills or debt obligation.
I hope you hard shell business people don’t go soft on me here. If you going to apply binary logic (hot/cold, wet/dry, smooth/rough, black/white) don’t paint the situation GRAY for the banks and paint it black or white for the public. Sorry, but making life decisions can be tough and the answers does not fit in the same box. The Sheriffs did the morally right thing…may not have been the business right thing where do you draw the line?
I bet all parties involved attain a church somewhere and that is where the line is applied. The line is Jesus and is call Love and Compassion. I know everyone involved can sleep easy over this situation. Can you?
Posted by: Pocket_rocket | December 1, 2011, 1:54 pm 1:54 pm
Common sense people… If she’s lived in the house for 53 years, she likely paid it off at least once. My take is that the grandson was given control of the assets and took out another mortgage on the property. I think the bank made a good call here.
Posted by: Mycenia | December 1, 2011, 4:08 pm 4:08 pm
Actually leaving both elderly ladies in the home is the cheapest solution for Georgia and the Federal Government. Ever consider how much it would cost for both of them to be placed in nursing homes and become full time wards of the state.
No sympathies for Chase or Deutsche Bank since they have been stealing from the people since 2008 through the bailouts.
Posted by: Ed Hoarse | December 1, 2011, 5:42 pm 5:42 pm
I have been praying for this lady and her daughter and for the grandson who most likely is the cause of this problem anyway…I too have an account with Chase and I am seriously thinking about closing my account because of this matter. I know that they got a lot of sympathy but for those who are able to work and are kicked out without any sympathy is sad too. But, they do have their good health and strength and can find some type of work if they just take the time to look. It’s the word of mouth and who you know that will get your foot in the door. God bless this family and I hope that things will get even better.
Posted by: blkgalusa | December 1, 2011, 9:10 pm 9:10 pm
Let Obama get the bank to pardon the loan
Posted by: Rckyy1544 | December 1, 2011, 11:04 pm 11:04 pm
What if “the bank” was another family in need of the rent money to feed themselves. This woman is 103 which means she has had a solid 85 years to learn the law. While i do sympathize with the fact that she is bedridden, do not blame the bank as evil, where is her family? She loves this community but did any of them come to help her? She thanks god but what about the movers and police that refused to move her? This woman did not pay rent for who knows how long, if it were not the bank and it was another poor family that needed the money to survive would this be as much of a story? Is it fair that their are many families that are working their tails off to be able to get into housing, but they have to live on the street because their is not enough affordable housing available? Yet this woman gets to stay in her place rent free simply because she is old? I am sorry but that is total bull crap.
Posted by: INJHWeTrust | December 2, 2011, 4:05 am 4:05 am
Yes, there are many sides to this story…a lot of ppl get evicted from their houses, all tragedies but please people, a 103-year old woman…..
Posted by: Michiel | December 2, 2011, 1:55 pm 1:55 pm
It’s NOT that this 103 year old lady is too old to get a job and pay off the mortgage, seeing how her house HAD ALREADY BEEN PAID OFF, it’s that a MEMBER of her OWN FAMILY took out a SECOND mortgage on HER home, and for WHATEVER reason, COULD NOT, or WOULD NOT, pay it off, FORCING the bank to ALMOST EVICT HER!!!!! Now WHAT kind of a FAMILY MEMBER DOES that to ANOTHER family member, HMMMMMM?!!!!!
Posted by: Butch Lesbian | December 3, 2011, 3:22 pm 3:22 pm
Jeez, people, read the article! It SAYS the bank did not know there were two old ladies living in the house because it’s in the grandson’s name. Plus which, he did NOT pay the mortgage. I’m glad the deputies did not evict, but come on, this isn’t entirely the bank’s fault.
Posted by: Citizen Jane | December 4, 2011, 5:58 am 5:58 am
This is not the bank’s fault. The bank doesn’t check ages before foreclosing and besides, the bank can’t discriminate against age. Before a home goes into foreclosure, there are many collection calls made to the customer. The bank would much rather work out a payment plan than take someone’s home, but sometimes the bank is left with no choice but foreclosure if a customer is non responsive or is unable/unwilling to make payments. I would place blame on the family member that put the 103 year old woman in this situation, not the bank.
Posted by: Jill | December 5, 2011, 12:04 am 12:04 am
I don’t know what’s worse. A family that sucks, multiple loans on a house for 53 years that can’t/wont be paid for, idiots here who think the banks are evil and to blame, or the FACT that this house at 1851 Penelope Road Atlanta, GA 30314 has a property value of only $35,600 ($132 p/m mortgage)
Posted by: OWS Hater | December 6, 2011, 6:20 am 6:20 am
Watching American Bandstand,then Soul Train on Saturday mornings and dancing like happy epileptics would be a great way to start the weekend….Singers needs to be those who are capable of doing with dignity.It could be best to have those who appeared on Soul Train during its peak years. Any ideas,hussies?
Posted by: Val Vanochten | February 4, 2012, 12:46 pm 12:46 pm
Don, thank you for the effortless cool you exposed to our lives. Go with God and strut down the Soul Train Line with all the angels.
Posted by: Mary Whitney | February 4, 2012, 12:46 pm 12:46 pm