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Dec 24, 2011 6:04pm

3-Year-Old Shoots and Kills 5-Year-Old in Colorado

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(ABC News)

A 5-year-old boy is dead after a shooting inside an apartment Friday morning in Lakewood, Colo., and police say a 3-year-old boy pulled the trigger.

Police said they believe the shooting was accidental, but one of the adults in the apartment at the time, Adam Laham, 23, was arrested on charges of child abuse resulting in death and criminal negligence.

Laham appeared in court this morning and his bond was set at $40,000, according to KUSA-TV in Denver.

Lakewood Police Department spokeswoman Bonnie Martin said Laham was at the residence along with several other adults, when the shooting occurred.

Laham, who was not related to either of the children and was visiting from Kansas, owned the gun that the 3-year-old fired, police said. Police declined to say how the shooting occurred or what kind of gun was used.

The 5-year-old boy was taken to the hospital with a gunshot to the chest and later died, Martin said.

Photos of guns were found by ABC News affiliate KMGH-TV in Denver on the Facebook page of a family member listed as a resident of the apartment where the shooting happened. Hours later, the same man posted “One *blank* second changes everything, forever.”

Neighbors say the family that lives in the apartment is friendly, and were just seen having a snowball fight in the yard on Thursday.

“It’s very sad. I wasn’t expecting anything like this,” said Joyce Loffer, who lives next door to the unit where the shooting took place.

The relationship between the children has not been released, but both lived at the residence where the shooting occurred.

ABC News affiliate The Denver Channel contributed to this report.

User Comments

and the guardian(s) of the children were not arrested why?? both the owner of the gun AND the guardian(s) should be arrested.

Posted by: illumina | December 24, 2011, 6:55 pm 6:55 pm

The gun was clearly left down, and while this is a stupid accident, a message has to be sent here that gun owners have to be responsibile for keeping them out of childrens hands. All of the adults should be arrested and charged.

Posted by: Douglas | December 24, 2011, 8:06 pm 8:06 pm

neglient homicide. a loaded unsecured weapon in a house with children…a distaster waiting to happen. this is why my kid knows if he is at a friends house and sees a gun he is to leave immediately

Posted by: mortimer q batholimuel | December 24, 2011, 8:46 pm 8:46 pm

I agree with Mortimer Q Batholimuel: unsecured loaded gun within reach of children age 5 and under, instant negligent homicide. People who carelessly and negligently leave guns where kids can get them ought to be jailed. People who carelessly and negligently leave LOADED guns where kids can get them ought to be jailed forever. No excuses.

Posted by: Cat Whisperer | December 24, 2011, 9:28 pm 9:28 pm

That 3 year old is going to be scarred for life if he ever finds out what he did. Tragedy.

Posted by: Alyssa | December 24, 2011, 10:03 pm 10:03 pm

As is always the case, it’s not the weapon that causes these tragedies, the child could just as easily have been stabbed or burned. Stupid, irresponsible adults fail to keep dangerous things inaccessible to children and fail to watch what the children are doing.

Posted by: zilchnew | December 24, 2011, 10:21 pm 10:21 pm

I’d like details on the gun. I’ve owned many different guns over the years and I doubt very seriously that a three year old would be able to successfully point and pull the trigger on any of them. If they were on safety, as they should always be, it would be virtually impossible. maybe this guy accidentally shot the kid and decided to blame on a small child who would be unable to argue otherwise.

Posted by: sensible99 | December 24, 2011, 10:53 pm 10:53 pm

“As is always the case, it’s not the weapon that causes these tragedies, the child could just as easily have been stabbed or burned.” — Um, no! To stab someone or burn the child would have required intent. There was no intent here. A 3-year-old grabbed the gun and ACCIDENTALLY pulled the trigger. He probably wasn’t even actually AIMING at the 5-year-old. HUGE difference!

Posted by: WorkingClass | December 24, 2011, 11:37 pm 11:37 pm

the 3 year old didn’t do anything. It’s proper gun safety to always assume a gun is loaded, no matter what, and to never point it at anyone. And then, you tell children that if they see a gun they tell an adult. There is no reason that young children need to be holding guns- loaded or not. There are gun owners who are responsible. I’m guessing this guy didn’t even have any training or permits. It’s people like this that make it difficult for normal citizens to own firearms and be trusted. What a shame. Even if he did pull the trigger, his brain isn’t even developed enough with the proper reasoning skills to make a smart decision about firearms. So again, not his fault. Every adult in the home should be held responsible.

Posted by: cara | December 24, 2011, 11:51 pm 11:51 pm

____”I’d like details on the gun. I’ve owned many different guns over the years and I doubt very seriously that a three year old would be able to successfully point and pull the trigger on any of them. If they were on safety, as they should always be, it would be virtually impossible. maybe this guy accidentally shot the kid and decided to blame on a small child who would be unable to argue otherwise.”

POSTED BY: SENSIBLE99 | DECEMBER 24, 2011, 10:53 PM 10:53 PM_____________SENSIBLE99, That is quite possible, and you have a valid argument. Maybe ballistic testing should be done on the child and the adult who posted, “One *blank* second changes everything, forever.”

Posted by: NoFlyZone2 | December 25, 2011, 1:21 am 1:21 am

Cara and Douglas, I don’t agree with you that every adult in the house are responsible. If you were there and knew nothing about the gun until it was fired, why were you responsible? Did you mean that every time you are in a residence with some other adults and children, you have to ask every adult and see if any of them have a gun?

Posted by: jleeka | December 25, 2011, 1:55 am 1:55 am

Only the owner of the gun can be found responsible and if the other adults knew that weapon was within hands reach of young children they should have made the owner put it away in a safe place.

Posted by: lonewolf1044 | December 25, 2011, 6:08 am 6:08 am

A tragedy it is but we must not forget that the gun itself did not kill the child. The owner must be held accountable. Always keep your weapons up out of the way and hide them so a child cannot find it. It could as easily been a knife.

Posted by: Ernest | December 25, 2011, 6:42 am 6:42 am

I am so sorry to hear of this. Fortunately the 3 yr old will probably not remember this as he grows up. But I’m sure the adults will there to remind him. As difficult as it will be, I would ask them them to give him a break. He wasn’t responsible for that gun being in the house.

Posted by: Sue | December 25, 2011, 9:21 am 9:21 am

once again, we can thank the NRA for their diligence.

Posted by: again? | December 25, 2011, 9:43 am 9:43 am

How the hell is this the NRA’s or the gun manufacturer’s fault ?? If I spell a word incorrectly while writing a letter,is it the pen’s fault?? I think not!! But , the gun owner is responsible for keeping the gun out of other’s hands,especially with kids in the house. For that matter all things that could potentially harm others,should be kept out of children’s hands. Knives ,chemicals,medication,etc… The death of a relative is always a difficult time. Even more so when its a child. My condolences to the family.

Posted by: rooster | December 25, 2011, 11:16 am 11:16 am

I own several guns of various types. Over the years I’ve had at least one of most types made from the middle 19th century forward. Can’t think of one that a 3 year old could fire without assistance.

Posted by: oonogil7 | December 25, 2011, 12:21 pm 12:21 pm

I’m sure ‘AGAIN’ would prefer that 5 people would be killed in a house fire on Christmas morning. Probably an electric fire. Do we blame Edison for that one?

Posted by: cloud | December 25, 2011, 12:24 pm 12:24 pm

Here’s an idea: DON’T OWN GUNS. They cause nothing but tragedy. And before some gun nut starts complaining about his rights, just remember that just because you have the right to do something, doesn’t mean that it’s a good idea. I have the right to hit myself in the head with a frying pan, but it’s a stupid thing to do. Owning a gun is statistically a bad idea, especially when children are concerned.

Posted by: Peter Voth | December 25, 2011, 12:32 pm 12:32 pm

Yeah…let’s continue to argue about the right to bear arms while kids kill each other because their parents leave loaded guns around the house…

Posted by: RalphF | December 25, 2011, 12:48 pm 12:48 pm

seems like if this was christ’s birthday he’d see that nothing goes wrong on this one day of the year. kinda busts that theory, doesn’t it?

Posted by: diqne smith | December 25, 2011, 1:04 pm 1:04 pm

Peter Voth , nonsense, statistically most guns don’t accidentally kill anyone. Self defense is a fundamental right, and our founding fathers moreover wished us to be able to defend against “tyrants at home and tyranny from abroad”. Most gun homicides are done by people with criminal records, don’t deny me my rights based on behaviour of evil people and reckless irresponsible people (such as ones who caused this tragedy).

Posted by: Ralph Siegler | December 25, 2011, 2:46 pm 2:46 pm

“again?” I could see a stupid comment like that coming a mile away.

Posted by: Republic defender | December 25, 2011, 3:24 pm 3:24 pm

Once again, a child dies so that you can have your ‘constitutional right’ to own a handgun. As long
as guns are so readily available to anyone and everyone, this will continue to happen. I see these tragedies in the news many, many times more than someone defending himself with a gun. Look at the statistics. Too bad we can’t outlaw stupidity. I don’t think for a minute anyone willl change his/her mind on this issue, but I do wonder what our founding fathers would say to this nonsense.

Posted by: Again? | December 25, 2011, 4:11 pm 4:11 pm

Five people died in a house fire this morning.
I suppose they should not have lived in a structure that might catch on fire.

Many fires this time of year are started by electric lights on Christmas trees.
Should we blame Martin Luther for starting the tradition of the Christmas tree? Should we blame Edison for inventing the light bulb? Maybe Tesla for developing the alternating circuit. We could blame Wal-Mart for selling the Christmas lights or the guy who sold the tree.

If you can’t blame any of those you can’t blame the gun.
Blame the guy who was careless with his Christmas tree and the guy who was careless with his guns.

Posted by: oonogil | December 25, 2011, 5:37 pm 5:37 pm

It goes without saying that I do blame the adult who left a loaded handgun accessible to a child. What I don’t get, though, is why people and the NRA defend this idiot’s ‘rights’ to own a handgun. He has no business near a gun. Handguns are made for killing people. Period. Anyone in the U.S.; and I mean anyone and everyone can readily obtain a handgun. The laws are a joke. I would think that people would willingly give up their 2nd amendment ‘rights’ to own a handgun if it would save the 30,000 some odd people killed each year in gun violence. If we cannot keep guns out of the hands of criminals, idiots, and children, then maybe we might be better off without any guns ….. except for the assault rifles you need to hunt squirrels. You may be a responsible gun owner, but too many of us are clearly not, and this child unnecessarily paid the ultimate price for someone else’s stupidity and ‘rights’.

Posted by: Again? | December 25, 2011, 6:20 pm 6:20 pm

This is why the NRA offers gun safety classes. Gun ban people scream at the very thought of teaching their children to leave guns alone. Teaching older kids how to keep guns out of the hands of younger children is also taboo. They’re even dumber than the religious right screaming about sex education. Ignorance is somehow better than education.

Lessons learned at a young age can stay with someone as an adult. If we teach firearm safety in school accidents such as this could be reduced. While we’re at it we should teach basic first aid and firefighting.

You’re not going to remove all the guns from the United States. They didn’t do it in Chicago and Washington DC, you’re not going to do it in Houston or Denver either. The best we can do is learn to live with it and educate the public about gun safety.

We’d have to do it covertly. The gun-ban folks hate the thoughts of education.

By the way. Gun ownership is at an all time high and gun sales are better than ever. According to the FBI, violent crime is being reduced at the same time.

Posted by: oonogil7 | December 25, 2011, 6:43 pm 6:43 pm

…and hours after a 5 year old in this family is shot out of the families NEGLIGENCE, one of the family members posts something like that on FACEBOOK no less. Wow, this family is classy………..

Posted by: thatwasobvious | December 25, 2011, 7:13 pm 7:13 pm

Gun safety classes by the NRA is akin to ‘preaching to the choir’. I am not concerrned by those gun owners. By taking the classes, they show they have some sense. It is the other people out there
that scare me. How many times a day do you see someone do something incredibly stupid and irrresponsible – as on any daily drive on our highways? These same people own guns. My point is if
we cannot keep guns out of their hands, which to this point we have obviously not done, then lets
get rid of all guns. Then no more 5 year olds die needlessly. If responsible people want to own guns, then do they not have the obligation to help keep them out of the hands of criminals and morons? The NRA doesn’t see it as their responsibility. The NRA should do more for it’s members, and not so much for the criminal and chronically stupid element in our society. This is absolutely insane. Civilized we are not.

Posted by: Again? | December 25, 2011, 8:00 pm 8:00 pm

Any other piece of merchandise that caused so many injuries and deaths per year
would have been banned long ago or at least highly regulated.

Posted by: JohnB | December 25, 2011, 8:37 pm 8:37 pm

Some people should not own guns! If you cannot be responsible with them and keep them out of the hands of your little ones, you should not have a gun. I am sick and tired of seeing idiot gun owners in the news.

Store your guns out of reach of kids & unloaded, or don’t have them if you have small children. It is as simple as that.

Posted by: Willow | December 25, 2011, 8:51 pm 8:51 pm

So we could save 30,000 people a year by getting rid of guns?

How many die from auto accidents every year? 32,000 per the NHTSA for 2010

How many are caused by speeding? Texting? Drowsiness? Wreckless driving? Drunk driving?

All of those reasons are caused by stupidity and stubborness – perhaps if we cannot keep cars ‘out of the hands’ of criminals (drunks, criminals fleeing scenes, driving w/o license, etc), idiots (those that think texting their BFF is more important than everyone else’s safety on the road) and children (yes, 16-18 y/o that are inexperienced and careless and not taught good driving skills) we should get rid of cars?

Just food for thought

Posted by: Jason | December 25, 2011, 9:21 pm 9:21 pm

Autos are highly regulated, license, plates, yearly inspections.
Guns have none of those controls.

Posted by: JohnB | December 25, 2011, 9:25 pm 9:25 pm

Any adult who leaves a loaded gun where kids under 5 years of age can get their hands on them is too frickin’ moronic to have either a child OR a gun.

Any parent or guardian who knows that they have brought their child to a home where there are unsecured loaded guns is as culpable in the death of a child because of a gun accident as the gun owner is.

Facts are, there are some people who are so moronic I wouldn’t give them responsibility for caring for a houseplant or a goldfish. And these same people are legally entitled to have both guns and children, and there are people who will defend their right to have guns and children.

In a perfect world, people would have to pass tests for responsibility, intelligence and mental stability and take training in safety issues before they could either own a gun or have a child.

It ain’t a perfect world. *Sigh.* Don’t worry, we’ll all be having this debate again when this preventable tragedy is repeated.

Posted by: Cat Whisperer | December 25, 2011, 9:31 pm 9:31 pm

Let’s call a spade a spade, the fault lies squarely on the shoulders of the ### who came to that home with a loaded gun, and allowed it to be within reach of the innocent child. I’d like all these people who say all the adults in the house should be responsible. That’s a load of crap, if you are in your own home, and you have your children in your own home, I’m going to tell you, you don’t monitor them 24/7. It’s unreasonable for them and you, espcially at 3 and 5 years of age. They play with toys in the living room, or run up and down the hall way to their bedrooms, it’s their home, not a damned prison.
The only person responsible is the jerk who was arrested………

Posted by: dawn | December 25, 2011, 9:43 pm 9:43 pm

I’d be interested in knowing the model of the gun as well. We have quite a few in our house, and all of them require more force to pull the trigger than any 3 year old I’ve ever seen would be capable of. I’d be much more likely to believe an adult killed that kid, and then pinned it on the 3 year old as a “horrible accident” to keep himself off the hook.

Posted by: Jessica | December 25, 2011, 10:02 pm 10:02 pm

How does regulating, registering and licensing and inspections of cars stop the drunks, idiots and selfish from speeding, driving drunk or driving distracted?

Posted by: Jason | December 25, 2011, 10:51 pm 10:51 pm

Schools should require every student to have classes in firearm safety. Parenting 101 should also be required. Teach people that you can’t leave a loaded gun near a young child.
The problem is that left wing extremists don’t want their children exposed to any knowledge concerning firearms. Right wing extremists don’t want anything which could remotely be construed as sex education. Maybe if we let politics fall to the wayside and start letting people actually learn something we might just get somewhere.

Like others I would like to know what type of gun it was. As an avid shooter I have doubts that a 3 year old could shoot a gun unless it is a custom target rifle or competition handgun with a very light trigger. Say down to the 1 – 2 pound range. Possible but not probable. My guess is that one or more of the adults was playing with the gun and accidently fired it.
Whatever happened it was carelessness on the part of the gun owner and the parents.

Posted by: oonogil7 | December 25, 2011, 10:55 pm 10:55 pm

“Autos are highly regulated, license, plates, yearly inspections.
Guns have none of those controls.”
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Yeah, automobiles are highly regulated and they STILL kill more people in a year than guns. What’s your point?
There are also three times as many guns in the US as there are registered vehicles. And there are STILL more auto-related fatalities than gun-related fatalities.

Posted by: WorkingClass | December 25, 2011, 11:13 pm 11:13 pm

Jason, the reason that laws about speeding and drunk driving don’t stop people from driving too fast and driving drunk is that enforcement is a joke. People know that the chances of getting caught aren’t high, so they’re willing to take the chance; and that if you are caught, the penalty is trivial.

You could make drunk driving accidents so rare that they’d make headlines if the penalty for a first drunk driving conviction was loss of license forever; second offense, confiscation of the car you’re caught driving and 10 years in jail; third offense, life sentence in jail and forfeit of all assets you own up to $100,000.

People drive drunk and speed because punishment is a joke. How many times do we read that someone who kills people while driving drunk has more than 3 DUI convictions and the accident happened while they were driving with a suspended license? Make the penalty really severe– one conviction and you can never legally drive again– and most people would do their drinking at home or would find a designated driver.

Likewise, if you want to stop gun “accident” tragedies like this, put real teeth into the law: if a minor child uses a gun belonging to an adult to kill or injure someone, even if it’s an accident, even if it’s a suicide, the adult owner of the gun goes to jail for 30 years, no early parole or time off for good behavior. No exceptions. The adult who owns the gun goes to jail. If that was the penalty, then you’d see trigger locks and lockable gun cabinets suddenly becoming the hottest selling items in the USA.

Posted by: cat whisperer | December 26, 2011, 1:44 am 1:44 am

Even if it’s suicide? No – because if they are serious enough to pull the trigger, the will kill themselves by some other means (hanging, pills, carbon monoxide, etc). That’s a fact of life. Trust me, I see on a routine basis.

And you are correct, tougher enforcement would discourage a lot of what goes on – but how would you like to be wrongfully convicted of a DUI because you used mouthwash one morning and never be able to drive again? Or how would like to go to jail because a 16 y/o stole your guns and shot someone? How is that your/my fault? That’s like saying if my truck is stolen and they kill someone while driving that I am responsible. Also food for thought.

Here’s a thought – there are roughly 22,000 guns laws on the books – yup, that’s right – 22,000. How about we undo 99.9% of those.

All guns to be legal.

No gun free zones.

Require a background check. Anyone CONVICTED of a violent offense can not buy or possess guns.

Now here’s the kicker – instead of all of those laws making the average citizen a criminal just for possessing a gun – make the laws apply to crimes.

If you are convicted a violent crime AND a gun was used (not just possessed) in that crime, your sentence is doubled and/or you spend life in prison. Shoot someone while in the commission of said crime and you get the firing squad upon conviction. Hey, what is good the goose is good for the gander.

Merely walking down the street w/ a gun shouldn’t be illegal, nor should having one in your home. The type / caliber – auto / semi-auto / handgun / long gun does not matter if you are doing nothing wrong.

Posted by: Jason | December 26, 2011, 8:57 am 8:57 am

It doesn’t take brains to use a gun. Or physical strength. It doesn’t require courage or virtue. As the above article notes, a three-year-old can point a gun and pull the trigger. Can any objective person, then, come to a conclusion other than that guns are weapons perfectly designed for fools and cowards?

Those who cite their supposed Constitutional rights to own and carry guns, then, only defend their right to BE fools and cowards.

Posted by: Sage on the Hudson | December 26, 2011, 4:37 pm 4:37 pm

I’m a friend of the victims and the convicted and while it maybe easy to sit at your computers casting blame at everyone and everything, I can tell you that there was no malicious intent here. This family has been through more than just this horrible instance and what they need is support, prayers and sympathy. They do not need judgement from everyone across the globe. This was a terribly horrible mistake, a tragedy. The convicted was usually very careful with his weapons. but it only takes one slip up for an event like this to happen. The lives of all involved and those that love them will forever be affected by this incident.

I hope everyone will pray for the children and the family and send them your good will and sympathies rather than your political disputes and judgement.

Posted by: A friend | December 26, 2011, 4:46 pm 4:46 pm

Prayers aren’t going to help that 5 year old….

Posted by: Jim | December 26, 2011, 6:37 pm 6:37 pm

I doubt a 3 year old could have fired any handgun- I’m an adult woman, my hands are weak from carpal tunnel syndrome so I don’t have normal strength, and it is hard for me to pull the trigger even on a .22. My husband’s .45 was too heavy for me to hold steady. And there are very few guns that go off when you pick them up or drop them.

Posted by: Sheila | December 27, 2011, 2:31 pm 2:31 pm

a person should be held responsible for foreseeable results – for a shotgun to be fired into the air with enough force, to get enough velocity, to travel in such an arc as to land a mile away (longest shotgun range is about 1,000 yards depending on gauge), and still have enough force to kill someone on the ground is so far outside the normal realm of physics that it is a pure accident, nothing more.

Posted by: Sheila | December 27, 2011, 2:37 pm 2:37 pm

While I understand being responsible – here’s another perspective.

Let’s say your the parent of a 3-5 y/o and you are on blood pressure meds. You store them in your medicine cabinet in a child proof bottle and go about your day. But this day you mistakenly didn’t twist the cap on all the way and your kid climbed up on the cabinet, opened the medicine cabinet and ate all of your pills – OD’ed and died.

Should you go to prison? YOU didn’t screw the cap on all the way – YOU didn’t keep a 24/7 eye on your kids.

Unfortunate accident? Yes. Preventable, yes. Intentional? No.

What about kids drowning in pools? ‘I turned my back for 2-3 minutes and found him face down in the pool!’ is something we hear a lot. Should we throw them in prison for that?

Posted by: Jason | December 29, 2011, 11:21 am 11:21 am

‘Guns don’t kill people’

Right.

We sure love our guns in this country. But all it takes is one slip up.
This guy never intended for this to happen to these kids. He just made a mistake.

But what was the point of even bringing his gun in that house in the first place?
Fear of the random armed robbery? What were the chances?

Posted by: Nina | December 29, 2011, 1:44 pm 1:44 pm

“a person should be held responsible for foreseeable results – for a shotgun to be fired into the air with enough force, to get enough velocity, to travel in such an arc as to land a mile away (longest shotgun range is about 1,000 yards depending on gauge), and still have enough force to kill someone on the ground is so far outside the normal realm of physics that it is a pure accident, nothing more.”

That’s actually a different story- about a different accidental shooting.

Posted by: Nina | December 29, 2011, 1:47 pm 1:47 pm

To the person that stated: “Busts the theory that Christ was born on Christmas day…” It is unlikely that Jesus was born on December 25th. Don’t have time for a history lesson here – but what you said makes absolutely no sense regardless, and has nothing to add to the discussion.

Posted by: Liam | December 29, 2011, 7:23 pm 7:23 pm

I agree with the guys who said, most 3 years olds couldn’t pull the trigger on a gun. I believe maybe the guy had an accident and is blaming the kid??? Possibility???

Posted by: Josie | December 29, 2011, 9:29 pm 9:29 pm

TO MOM AND DAD OF THESE CHILDREN,

*********** I AM SO SORRY FOR YOUR LOSS, AS A PARENT OF A UNEXPECTED TRAGIC LOSS OF ONE OF MY VERY YOUNG CHILDEN . MY HEART GOES OUT TO YOU AND YOUR FAMILY******

P.S. people kindly keep in mind that a tragic accident happen to this family and whether be the case of how it happen or whom did what. this is a family that has lost a child, that hurt alone is devastaing and last a lifetime, if anyone that is reading this post can relate to the lost of their child or a loved one whether by sickness or tragic i’m sure can understand the need inside of you to offer your sympathy to this family and not only the other stuff. please don’t forget to post for the family itself in a most urgent time of need,..

Posted by: tammy | December 29, 2011, 9:31 pm 9:31 pm

We all have right-wing pundits like Mike Gallagher to thank for this. Only last night did Mike complain about the US Marine who tried to enter the Empire State Building in NY and was arrested. Mike claims it is this fellows 2nd amendment rights to own a gun. Of course, but to bring a gun into the second target of Al Quaida in 2011? You’ve got to be kidding. Think of the people up at the top watching some guy moseying around with a revolver. Common sense says that if you keep a gun, you keep one in your home, like the woman who recently killed an intruder while protecting her baby. I hate guns personally. I respect ones right to own one, but I totally disagree with people failing to have the common sense to keep one hidden in their home, and especially, MOST ESPECIALLY – those defenders like Mike Gallagher, who pump up the public with hay nanny fear which results in children dying. Shame on you Mike Gallagher!

Posted by: Randall Scott | January 5, 2012, 1:22 pm 1:22 pm

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