Dec 15, 2011 6:24am

Exclusive: ‘White Only’ Pool Sign Owner Explains

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A female landlord, Jamie Hein, had a sign that read, "Public Swimming Pool, White Only" hanging on a gate at her house and her private pool. (Photo credit: Ohio Civil Rights Commission)

An Ohio landlord accused of discriminating against an African-American girl with a “white only” sign at her swimming pool told ABCNews.com that the sign was an antique and a decoration.

“I’m not a bad person,” said Jamie Hein of Cincinnati. “I don’t have any problem with race at all. It’s a historical sign.”

The sign in question reads, “Public Swimming Pool, White Only.” It is dated 1931 and from Alabama.

Hein, 31, was unapologetic about the racist origins of the sign that she displayed at the entrance to her pool. She said she collects antiques and was given the sign as a gift. She also said that even though the sign seems to indicate that the pool is public, the pool is on her private property and “everybody has to ask before getting in my pool.”

Michael Gunn, 40, is the man who took issue with Hein’s sign and filed a discrimination charge with the Ohio Civil Rights Commission. He was a tenant in one of Hein’s properties.

“We invited my daughter, who is African-American, to visit and swim in the pool for the Memorial Day weekend,” Gunn wrote in his complaint. “The owner, Jamie Hein, accused my daughter of making the pool ‘cloudy’ because she used chemicals in her hair. Days later, she posted a sign on the gate to the pool which reads, ‘Public Swimming Pool, White Only.’”

Hein said that the sign had nothing to do with Gunn’s daughter and that it was already up at the time of that party, but cannot be seen when the gate is open.

Gunn said the family previously “had unrestricted access to the pool area,” but Hein said that was not the case. She said everyone, including her own father, has to ask permission before swimming in her pool.

Gunn did not respond to requests for comment. In his complaint, he wrote that he moved out of Hein’s property in June “in order to not expose my daughter to the sign and the humiliation of the message.”

The Ohio Civil Rights Commission found on Sept. 29 that Hein did violate the Ohio Civil Rights Act by posting the sign, but Hein has asked that the decision be reconsidered. The sign has since been stolen.

“I’ve never said anything to that child,” Hein said. “If I have to stick up for my white rights, I have to stick up for my white rights. It goes both ways.”

The commission will meet to come to a final decision on Jan. 12, according to Brandi Martin, a spokeswoman for the Ohio Civil Rights Commission.

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I believed this woman that she may be innocent until I got to the end of the story. She actually said “stick up for her white rights?” No, honey, they’re called civil-rights and EVERYONE gets them. Just an antique my butt, that chick is a racist. Idiots like her give the rest of us a bad name!

Posted by: Tiffany | December 15, 2011, 7:09 am 7:09 am

That landlord is an idiot. Whether it was aimed towards the girl is irrelevant…. Swastikas are historical, but you don’t go posting them on a whim!!!!

Posted by: allison | December 15, 2011, 7:12 am 7:12 am

Not meant to be a racist act, yet she says “If I have to stick up for my white rights, I have to stick up for my white rights”?. Seriously lady, who the hell do you think you’re kidding?

Posted by: Mobalajee | December 15, 2011, 7:14 am 7:14 am

MORON!

Posted by: Cindy | December 15, 2011, 7:34 am 7:34 am

A man goes to college to get a specialized degree to work for a company. Knowing this company sends a bunch of suits to college in the last weeks of school to hire the top of the class, the student does his absolute best to get perfect grades.

Semester after semester, exam after exam, the student finally achieves his goal, a perfect 4.0 in every class.

The day finally came when one of the main classes was closed, peeking in the window, he noticed a hand full of men in suits and that dream company logo on their briefcases. Butterflies consumed the student knowing that years of hard work was about to pay off.

The students were assembled down the hall in a lounge area, talking about the possibilities. The door opened. Out walked the professor and came toward the students. He looked at them and said, “Amber, come with me.”

Mouths hit the floor. Amber was barely passing. That student who worked so hard to get perfect grades even tutored her in just about every subject to at least get her to a D-.

Amber was hired on the spot. The men opened a map of the USA that had all of the offices highlighted, and told her she gets to pick her city and they will move her. They wrote a couple of checks on the spot to her. One was for her schooling and the other was for a sign-on bonus. Both were very large.

The student with the perfect grades was devastated.

Posted by: True Story | December 15, 2011, 7:43 am 7:43 am

It is really hard not to become hateful after such an experience. Watching years of your hard work and dedication get flushed down the toilet for nothing other than a company having some ridiculous hiring quota.

Seems that if we really wanted to end racism, we would end the very things that are causing it to take root in the first place.

Posted by: True Story | December 15, 2011, 7:49 am 7:49 am

It is always funny in a sad way when people who are clearly racist, like this woman posting the ‘whites only’ sign, deny that they are.

Posted by: Librarian53 | December 15, 2011, 8:09 am 8:09 am

Are you saying that ALL minority hires are sub-par, not qualified enough, and hired only because of quotas? The fact is that if not for quotas, some minority people will never be hired, EVEN if highly qualified. Don’t generalize, generalizing people always gets it wrong.

Posted by: Jiji Moran | December 15, 2011, 8:10 am 8:10 am

True Story, that happens everywhere, quota or not. If someone knows somebody, if a friends kid needs a job, if a woman or man is very attractive, suddenly they are ‘qualified’.
Don’t let it get you down or make you bitter. It has always been that way, you just have to find a job with a company that will value your team spirit and abilities.

Posted by: Librarian53 | December 15, 2011, 8:13 am 8:13 am

And…why are we seeing this story in mid December??? No one is using the pool, the sign has been stolen??? This was / is a private pool. She could deny access to anyone she wants. But…. I was on her side until I got to the end of the story. Sorry lady you should have never put that sign up.

Posted by: Retired | December 15, 2011, 8:20 am 8:20 am

I HAVE A QUESTION HERE!! THE FATHER SAID THAT HE LIVED IN A HOME ON ONE OF HER PROPERTIES. HE INVITED HIS DAUGHTER TO VISIT AND SWIM IN THE POOL, SO HIS DAUGHTER MUST NOT LIVE WITH HIM? HE SAID HIS DAUGHTER IS AFRICAN-AMERICAN, RIGHT? MY QUESTION IS, IS THE FATHER WHITE?

Posted by: JAKKI | December 15, 2011, 8:20 am 8:20 am

It’s her pool, she can exclude whomever she wishes. Go find some real news to report, ABC.

Posted by: Bruce | December 15, 2011, 8:27 am 8:27 am

An Austrian man goes to college to get a specialized genocide degree to work for a company. Knowing this company sends a bunch of suits to college in the last weeks of school to hire the top of the class, the student does his absolute best to get perfect grades.

Semester after semester, exam after exam, the student finally achieves his goal, a perfect 4.0 in every class.

The day finally came when one of the main classes was closed, peeking in the window, he noticed a hand full of men in uniforms and that funny cross logo on their briefcases. Butterflies consumed the student knowing that years of hard work was about to pay off.

The students were assembled down the hall in a lounge area, talking about the possibilities. The door opened. Out walked the professor and came toward the students. He looked at them and said, “Adolph, come with me.”

Mouths hit the floor. Adolph was barely passing. That student who worked so hard to get perfect grades even tutored him in just about every subject to at least get him to a D-.

Adolph was hired on the spot. The men opened a map of Deutschland that had all of the offices highlighted, and told him he gets to pick his city and they will move him. They wrote a couple of checks on the spot to him. One was for his Kampf and the other was for a sign-on bonus. Both were very large.

The student with the perfect grades was devastated.

Posted by: Aaron Ververs | December 15, 2011, 8:34 am 8:34 am

It is a private pool. She can do whatever she likes with her private property. This is America and PRIVATE land owner rights should come first, regardless of PUBLIC perception. It is HER property so she can put up whatever signs she likes. I own a pool and no one swims in it unless either my wife or I allow them to swim in it. I am getting sick and tired of the media, government, and public intruding on the RIGHTS of PRIVATE citizens. I remember the day when you tried something like this and you got ran off the property by the owner and his/her shotgun.

Posted by: M.Satterfield | December 15, 2011, 8:38 am 8:38 am

So the Ohio Civil Rights Commission can tell you how to decorate? Obviously, they have nothing important to do and should be disbanded.

Posted by: Tyrone | December 15, 2011, 8:43 am 8:43 am

Her story was kind of plausible, until the end when she said her “white rights”. I mean ,come on, really?! If that isnt any indication of her true motives, then I don’t know what is

Posted by: Person | December 15, 2011, 8:43 am 8:43 am

Further investigation will show that although this pool was “private”, tenants used it whenever they wanted to.
This woman certainly has the right to own such an “antique” sign, but she needs to post it in her house — not on the pool gate.

Posted by: Susan in Warrenville | December 15, 2011, 8:45 am 8:45 am

I should have the right in this country to hang what ever sign I want on MY OWN PROPERTY! Doesn’t matter if its in public view or not, does not matter if it offend YOU or not. My sign, my property… as for the comment she made at the end. We all have rights. People get all messed up over color or race. There are rights specifically for blacks, as well as other races. I think the point is being missed that this lady is saying in a very sarcastic way that she is fighting for her white rights. if you take out that one word, would it matter at all? If you are not racist yourself then her comment wouldn’t bother you. I tell you this, if she were racist she would NOT have allowed that child to swim in her pool. Now THAT would have been racist! Hanging a 70 yr old sign, not so much…

Posted by: alton | December 15, 2011, 8:45 am 8:45 am

@Jakki– not that it makes any real difference, but no, the father is not African American. His daughter is either adopted or her mother is African American. Duh.

Posted by: Susan in Warrenville | December 15, 2011, 8:47 am 8:47 am

This is news in December because there is a final decision due in January 2012 and an initial decision was made in Sept…True Story: hiring minorities isn’t the ‘root cause’ of racism-hateful, ignorant folks who continue to raise their kids in the same hate is and to get rid of that means wiping out quite a few generations. Aaron, love the comparison to the true story.
Private pool or not, she should have turned the sign where only she could have enjoyed her antique!

Posted by: WOW | December 15, 2011, 8:50 am 8:50 am

Its private property!! She should be able to have whatever she wants!! She’s obviously not discriminating if she has an african-american living on her property. BUT if it was my private property, antique or not, I wouldnt display it! I wouldn’t my friends nor my children to think I was ok with such words!

Posted by: Bridgette | December 15, 2011, 8:51 am 8:51 am

She should be charged with a hate crime.

Posted by: Don | December 15, 2011, 8:54 am 8:54 am

@Alton — but she did not know ahead of time that the white tenant’s daughter was African American. Once she did learn that the child was African American, she was no longer allowed in the pool.

Of course putting a “whites only” sign on your pool is racist — whether the sign was painted today or 100 years ago.

She has a swimming pool that is regularly and freely used by tenants. However, when one of them is not white, it suddenly becomes her “private” pool and no one can use it without permission. That is exactly like the owner of an apartment complex saying, “tenants can only use our pool with permission, and we only give permission for white tenants to use it.”

Racism is racism, folks. And it’s against the law.

Posted by: Susan in Warrenville | December 15, 2011, 8:57 am 8:57 am

if it were black only then it would be ok.

Posted by: tom | December 15, 2011, 8:59 am 8:59 am

I agree, she should be charged with a hate crime. She isn’t fooling anyone.

Posted by: jmiccey | December 15, 2011, 9:00 am 9:00 am

As to “True Story”‘s comment, that would be sexism, not racism. BIG DIFFERENCE. But, actually, it may not be either, considering I doubt the person in the story knew EVERYTHING about the situation and that grades are private, so Amber may have had a higher grade then he thought. It’s just another moot argument against affirmative action on the WRONG topic. This is about race.
As for the idiot landlord in this story, The claim that she doesn’t have a problem with race is obviously a lie, which has already been pointed out on here with her “white rights” statement. It’s people like this and the above poster “Alton” that keep us moving backwards in our society and not forwards.

Posted by: Educator80 | December 15, 2011, 9:02 am 9:02 am

Every study shows that white, wealthy affirmative action (called “Legacy Preferences”) have always been the cause of more admissions that racial/ethnic/gender-based affirmative action. Also, the first study came out showing that legacy admission students families do not give any more money than non-legacy ones. The same study showed that “legacy admissions” received an average of 180 points added to their SAT scores.

So THAT’S how George Bush got into Yale!

Schools should not be allowed to have quotas for white, wealthy students and not others. Also, schools should have to show that a preference (like for legacy preferences) have a basis in a benefit to the entire student body. They can’t just say “oh, its for getting more money” and then every study shows it isn’t getting more money.

Posted by: Dawn R. | December 15, 2011, 9:05 am 9:05 am

Private property? When you start taking on tenants the line blurs about what you can do on your ‘private’ property. I wonder if she pays taxes on her rental units?

Posted by: Sunflower | December 15, 2011, 9:07 am 9:07 am

The sign says “public Swimming pool” and is part of an apartment complex. BY definition public means”people as a whole” . That sign shows her complete ignorance and insensitivity.It is completely archaic and so is the mentality that goes along with it. I am ashamed of my race when I see crap like that. Judgement should be based on character and nothing else. Keep your pool to yourself if your gonna pick and choose who can step into your pristine waters.

Posted by: kathy | December 15, 2011, 9:07 am 9:07 am

I’m sorry, but she’s right….the race card works both ways!

Posted by: Manda | December 15, 2011, 9:11 am 9:11 am

Racists will use any excuse they can think of to justify and excuse their racism. “Oh, it’s just an antique, a gift, and I collect stuff like that”. Yet rather than put this ‘antique collectible’ inside her house, on a wall or a display with OTHER antique collectible things like it, she hangs it on the gate of the fence going to her swimming pool?!?!? I know racists are generally dumb as a box of rocks, but she must think the rest of the world is as stupid and clueless as she is…….

Posted by: Searambler | December 15, 2011, 9:12 am 9:12 am

The frosting on the cake is the fact that not only do the tenants know this woman is a bigot but now everyone else in America knows it too. Her name has been reported so it’s just a matter of time when she will start feeling the pain of her own attitude. She just outed herself.

Posted by: howdymo1 | December 15, 2011, 9:14 am 9:14 am

I think it is BS that this woman is even remotely pretending not to be racist.

Posted by: Jessie | December 15, 2011, 9:14 am 9:14 am

This just goes to show that discrimination is alive and well in 2011. She is a total IDIOT! But she isn’t the only one and she won’t be the last. What’s next? Bringing lynching back on Saturday nites?!! This is very sad, it just shows how low class some people can be. Good they moved, I wouldn’t give her another penny for rent!

Posted by: Ms M | December 15, 2011, 9:18 am 9:18 am

So let me ask this…..if that sign she had hanging said “colored only” would this even be an issue???

Posted by: Manda | December 15, 2011, 9:22 am 9:22 am

“If I have to stick up for my white rights . . . ” Hein’s own words show her to be a racist as well as a liar!

Posted by: Paulette | December 15, 2011, 9:24 am 9:24 am

This idiot landlord needs to get her story straight? Which lie is the truth?

Posted by: HerNameSake | December 15, 2011, 9:25 am 9:25 am

She does have her rights, I personally don’t see a problem with those signs or confederate flags, as long as the owner isn’t showing disrespect to me or anyone else. So go ahead, keep your sign, fly your flags, just as long as you don’t let it go to your head and you start disrespecting african-americans.

S/N: We as an african-american race need to stop being so sensitive. Stop complaining. It’s embarassing to me. It makes us seem like we’re soft and always depending on associations or organizations to do what we can do for ourselves, stand up for our own INDIVIDUAL rights.

Posted by: Michael | December 15, 2011, 9:25 am 9:25 am

If I have to stick up for my white rights,—Ok, as soon as you see someone talking about ‘white rights’ you know they’re racist. In my very long life, NEVER have I ever had to use the term “white rights”. But then again, I’ve never had cause to treat humans as anything other than individuals.

Posted by: GrannyNosBest | December 15, 2011, 9:30 am 9:30 am

Let’s be clear here: racism is not illegal in the context of an individual, personal belief. This woman is a landlord, and therefore, operating a business to an extent, and that’s why the OCRC is involved. If the pool was made available to tenants, like would be in an apartment complex or gated community, the private property claim is flimsy. Antique or not, the sign invokes an era which was oppressive for fellow Americans. IMO, her comment about “my white rights” was merely counter argument, just like “reverse discrimination” seems to only apply to white folks. As though blacks are the only ones treated as such. She’ll be fined, I suppose, but really, what else can the OCRC do? The sign was stolen, and even if she finds another, she probably wouldn’t dare pull this again.

Posted by: wildblue | December 15, 2011, 9:32 am 9:32 am

The thought police are at it again. This is private property. Go find some real news.

Posted by: freesouth | December 15, 2011, 9:33 am 9:33 am

We as an african-american race ——Well, I’m white, and I find offense to the “n” word, that sign, swastikas, etc. I’m not jewish, I’m not black, I’m human. And there is a certain bare minimum set of expectations I have for humans and how they should treat another human. It is probably in your best personal interest not to get upset by that sign. Letting go of anger and idiots who may discriminate is probably best for your mental health, than feeling like you need to fight the world, so, allow us whites to battle it. We have our reputation to uphold, and we will continue to push back against these idiots so that all humans can live their lives in peace, but…if you meet some blacks who white bash—-return the favor.

Posted by: GrannyNosBest | December 15, 2011, 9:33 am 9:33 am

@manda yes manda it would. That’s a ridiculous question and obviously the point people are trying to make here. Chances are good though you will never see a sign that excludes whites so I don’t think you have to worry. Anyway, I’m sure someone like you would not settle to be excluded from something that was labeled “public” any more than these people should. Would you be so quick to defend her if it was your child standing outside the pool fence looking in?

Posted by: kathy | December 15, 2011, 9:35 am 9:35 am

It’s her property. She can do what she wants. I’m sick of whites not having any rights either. I hate that there were slaves, but I never owned one and am not gonna be held accountable for what others did and not gonna be scared to do what I want. Freedom of speach people. She can spray paint no blacks, mexicans, japanese, chinese, canadians, or anything she wants for that matter on the side of her house. If you don’t like it, don’t read it!

Posted by: AD | December 15, 2011, 9:39 am 9:39 am

So lets condemn all white people because of one idiot racist lady.

Posted by: Paulie | December 15, 2011, 9:41 am 9:41 am

Who do you think this landlord is voting for in the next Presidential race?

Posted by: Jim | December 15, 2011, 9:42 am 9:42 am

i agree with Manda. for example, we have miss black usa, miss latino/hispanic, etc. but what would happen if there was a miss white usa? oh my goodness, all h3ll would break loose!

Posted by: Lucie | December 15, 2011, 9:44 am 9:44 am

Sounds to me as if someone posted the sign for exactly the reason she is saying is not the case. If you wanted to post your antique sign that some may find offensive, then it should have been posted in your home. I believe the sign is a reflection of how the woman feels about her pool, which she obviously cherishes, especially considering that her own father has to have permission before swimming. Terrible and insensitive.

Posted by: carole | December 15, 2011, 9:44 am 9:44 am

A no trespassing sign is also probably considered an act against the ‘rights’ of would be trespassers so I just shoot first and ask questions later

Posted by: jay | December 15, 2011, 9:46 am 9:46 am

Obviously this sign is offensive, but I fault ABC News for printing this unproductive article. To do so is inflammatory and totally unnecessary.

Posted by: Anne | December 15, 2011, 9:47 am 9:47 am

Michael @ 9:25am….that is the best post I’ve read!

Posted by: ocmarsha | December 15, 2011, 9:47 am 9:47 am

I don’t agree with the sign or what it stand for but it is her private property and it’s her right to hang any sign she wants.

Posted by: m | December 15, 2011, 9:48 am 9:48 am

I agree 300% – this woman is a racist. She’s trying to dig her way out of a hole – that last comment seals the deal for me – “White rights” – REALLY? What an idiot.

Posted by: Maria | December 15, 2011, 9:48 am 9:48 am

I dare not comment.

Posted by: newcountryman | December 15, 2011, 9:49 am 9:49 am

I bet they dont have that sign at the local prison.

Posted by: bob | December 15, 2011, 9:49 am 9:49 am

For everyone complaining about the “white rights” comment, think about it for a moment. If a member of a minority complains about something a white does and yells “racism” the white is in the wrong, even if CIVIL RIGHTS say that they should be able to do whatever they are doing. The woman is making a statement, saying that in our current community, civil rights are being trampled for the white majority, because of the fear of hurting a minority member’s feelings. Grow up people.

Posted by: Some guy | December 15, 2011, 9:53 am 9:53 am

@MANDA: Well said.

@Michael: Valid point.

Everyone, as a whole, needs to stop being so sensitive. It makes me a little sad to constantly see the results of such an overly litigious society.

Posted by: Ms.Burkeeee | December 15, 2011, 9:53 am 9:53 am

For those who says that “its her private pool and she can exclude who she wants..” WRONG, If your a landlord and your renting out your property.. that gives rights out those who rents out your property! This white is clearly racist! She knew exactly what she was doing when posted that sign! We are trying our hardest to get rid of any type of racist remarks, and not deal with it in todays society and this woman did this.. and only to think, shes only 31 and didnt live a life in slavery days.. so therefore, something that old shouldnt of meant anything to her! She needs to be pushed! AND also, Hein, you have no “whites only rights” Ur a freak’n retard!

Posted by: Susan | December 15, 2011, 9:55 am 9:55 am

Here is how MY world works.. There is no such thing as racism, we are all human, plain and simple.
If you are racist.. You don’t even exist in MY world.. My eyes don’t see you, my ears don’t hear you.
You are a dinosaur, a caveman, and SHOULD be extinct.. therefore I will treat you like you don’t exist until you really ARE extinct.

Posted by: Growupfolks | December 15, 2011, 9:55 am 9:55 am

There is a sense of entitlement among many people who are classified as white in this country. Many will respond to this piece with comments like quotas etc., but in reality many whites have benefitted from the quota of being classified as white. One needs only look at the ecoomic disparities to understand this truth. Yes, this woman had a right to put up any sign that she wanted to because of freedom of speech, but in doing so she is deemed as a person who violated anoother person’s civil rights. We can not continue to justify bad behavior with our stories and antedotes. Her actions indicate that she committed a crime and she must face this with fines and penalities. On a final note racism is a total waste of emotion. It may hurt the person it is directed towards, but the real victim is the perpetrator. The person is a prisoner of their own hatred.

Posted by: TLBB | December 15, 2011, 9:56 am 9:56 am

Do we really have a Miss Black USA?

If true. How can there be such a thing to exist that is exclusive to one race and not be racism?

Posted by: angie | December 15, 2011, 9:57 am 9:57 am

@ AD It’s about being civil…not pointing a finger at people saying you can, you can, but you can’t. when your rights infringe/effect others, then it becomes a problem. if you don’t like this don’t read it..too late.

Posted by: kathy | December 15, 2011, 10:01 am 10:01 am

i miss the 1970 s all in the family with archie bunker tell it like it is todays crowd under 45 are toooo sensitive

Posted by: phoenix | December 15, 2011, 10:03 am 10:03 am

So why is it now a sin for her to say “I have to stick up for my white rights”? I mean seriously guys we hear about “black rights” all the time and they are never accused of being racist. If she was seriously trying to be racist then absolute shame on her. But it seems to me that her rights are the rights being infringed upon. Believe it or not, we as americans do actually have the right to be racist…I am absolutely not saying that this is “right” for anyone BUT we have a right to believe what we believe and she has a right to not allow anyone for any reason to swim in her own private pool. Some times people have bad experiences with people of other races and they develope an over all opinion of the group as a whole that can be unfavorable it isnt fair to “force” them to associate with other races if they do not wish to and I do not feel they should have to appologise for it. I have had a friend who was raped by a white guy…she HATES white men and I am not kidding she will NOT SPEAK to a white guy…do I blame her for this?? Do we now slap a lable on her and call her a racist?? No we respect the decision that she has made and pray that some day she over comes this situation. My point is that you never really know the real reasons that some people feel the way they do.

Posted by: Rachel Cochran | December 15, 2011, 10:03 am 10:03 am

SO SICK of some African Americans seeking ways to scream “racism” when in fact, they are where they want to be in our society. This is on this lady’s private property…she should be left alone to decide who to swim in her pool or not. I know for a fact there are African Americans who exclude whites from their property and won’t hire them to work because they’re white but you don’t see the whites scream “they’re being racist!” In fact, if you really want to see racism go to Sam’s Club, Walart, pretty much any stores in most of GA. You might see a white person working there but most likely not. I agree with Jakki “Find some real news to report ABC!!” Thankfully, I have some AA friends who actually agree with me!! They too are sick of their own race trying to keep a barrier between our races when there are much ore important issues to be concerned with such as the homeless families and children in our country. Now that’s news worth reporting!!

Posted by: Faye | December 15, 2011, 10:05 am 10:05 am

Posting the sign is not by itself a racist act. If this was hanging in a civil rights museum, it would be considered an important part of the display. However if she refused to let a black tenant or guest into her pool while allowing whites, that would be racist and should be punished. The earlier poster was right in saying people need to stop being so sensitive. Did the father ask to bring his daughter into the pool and was denied or just assume she wouldn’t be allowed in? Before the sign was posted, did the landlord allow any blacks into the pool or did she always restrict access to whites? Things aren’t always so black and white and the journalist here should have dug a bit further into this story.

Posted by: thoughts | December 15, 2011, 10:06 am 10:06 am

I was actually told during a job interview on 2 occasions that I was qualified for the job and they wanted to hire me but couldn’t because they had to meet a quota to hire an African American. I was told not to repeat that because they could get into trouble. These were law firms. So much for freedom in our country.

Posted by: Susan | December 15, 2011, 10:09 am 10:09 am

You have to be a special kind of stupid to post a sign like that in this century. Claiming it’s “historical” is the ultimate lame excuse.

Posted by: Fred | December 15, 2011, 10:13 am 10:13 am

“I’ve never said anything to that child,” Hein said. “If I have to stick up for my white rights, I have to stick up for my white rights. It goes both ways.” ___________”White Rights” must be the right to discriminate. Yeah, hold on tightly to that right, Ms. Hein, because those days are numbered.

Posted by: MsT-Mac | December 15, 2011, 10:15 am 10:15 am

Not only is she a racist, she’s obviously a liar….

Posted by: Kevin | December 15, 2011, 10:16 am 10:16 am

Whether she’s racists or not, she has a right to believe what she’s believes. She also has the right to post whatever she’d like on her PRIVATE property. Furthermore, she has the right to allow/deny people access to HER pool. So many people forget this is America. We have rights and we can still have those rights whether you (or Tom, or Mary, or Bob..) agree. I can somewhat understand her last statement “stick up for my White rights” because there are SOOOO many stories in the news where African Americans are sticking up for their rights. So, when a “White” person does it .. that makes it wrong? That makes her racists? Perhaps she could have worded it different, but seriously .. I can feel her frustration on this. No, I’m not racists. No, I’m not an idiot (before the names get dropped because someone doesn’t agree with what I’m saying). but yes, I do believe people can think and feel however they want and I don’t have a say. It’s not me! It’s not my beliefs! It’s not my life! African Americans are very strong minded when it comes to their rights and freedom .. why can’t Whites be?

Posted by: Lisa | December 15, 2011, 10:17 am 10:17 am

OMG – your white rights?? Seriously?? I bet you call yourself a christian too.

Posted by: guest | December 15, 2011, 10:18 am 10:18 am

Susan 10:09 am – Same thing happened to my brother in the ’70′s when he was trying to get into dental school. He was told that because of quotas, less qualified minorities and also women had to be given preference. Opportunity should always be color and gender blind. That is the only fair way.

Posted by: Thoughts | December 15, 2011, 10:20 am 10:20 am

“Antique” – LOL. Just like those minds stuck in past centuries.

Posted by: green.goddess | December 15, 2011, 10:23 am 10:23 am

It was posted where the sign would have been posted all those years ago. It was wrong then, it’s wrong now. I have a problem with her “white” rights comment. Sure she should receive the same rights as anyone else. I remember once, a salesman was in my kitchen, years before a lady from the south I met through her kid in Colorado made me a ceramic mammy. I didn’t think anything of it for years it was above cabinets in the kitchen. The salesman who was black, pointed it out and said I know you invited me into your home, but that’s offensive. I apologized, and after he left I threw it away. Many would ask why… my answer would be, I don’t want to make anyone I invite into my home uncomfortable. If it was in the home of a black person, I might understand the significance. Being white I don’t have the born in historical significance to have such items in my home. As pointed out above, it would be like having a Jewish friend over and having a swastika hanging up.

Posted by: Terry | December 15, 2011, 10:23 am 10:23 am

Lisa 10:17am “Why can’t Whites be? – The problem is that there should be no such thing as white rights or black rights. It should only be civil rights that apply equally to all. That also means no preferences or quotas based on race, gender or other characteristic that isn’t directly relevant to the opportunity.

Posted by: Thoughts | December 15, 2011, 10:24 am 10:24 am

When will the black cultur learn that poeple that are holding them down are themselves. The people that are opressing them are other blacks. Blacks are given every break in this life if they are willing to work for it. If I a white man apply for a job and an equaly qualified black man applies for it the chances are the black man will get it. Not because he is better but because he is black. That is true in schools and everywhere else. Blacks can be as mean and hateful to a white person but nothing will ever happen to them. But a white says one mean or hateful thing to a black and they will be sued or arrested. If a Black person beats up a white they get arrested and charged with assult. If a white person beat up a black they are arrested charged with assult and a hate crime. Come on I do not hate anyone because of thier race. I just think that people need to start fixing thier own situation before blaming it on others.

Posted by: Chris | December 15, 2011, 10:32 am 10:32 am

The truth is science is withholding much information regarding the SCIENCE of human Bio-Mechanics and it is further known that that which they withhold is most assuredly being used against the population of Earth.

We are all well born with a set of UN-inalienable rights irregardless of any documentation of such fix to any medium by man.

It is however critically expedient and EXPONENTIALLY important to appreciate and note that a long held understanding in natural Law revealed to us the human being that for every action there is and equal and opposite reaction.

Therefore; far be it for me or any one to assume authority over what another can and can not do yet it is helpful to understand that your right to act and my right to act are equal and from this position allow me to compassionately, earnestly and sincerely inform you that ones decision of freewill is at no point in any form or shape a Constituted degree of freewill beyond of the LAW of consequence.

GROW UP WORLD

EVERYONE ONE EARTH is entitled by RIGHT: TO LOVE TRUTH PEACE FREEDOM and JUSTICE

Peace and Blessings

Prince Nova

Posted by: PRINCE NOVA | December 15, 2011, 10:33 am 10:33 am

No comment. Still trying to figure out what Obama went through with his grandparents….

Posted by: newcountryman | December 15, 2011, 10:33 am 10:33 am

If she’s only interested in the historical value of the sign, why post it ON THE GATE OF HER POOL, where it actually has some implication of her obvious racism? Why not display it in the kitchen of her house, where there’s no pool to infer she sincerely intends to enforce the letter of the sign? An old tin sign like that one doesn’t have any historical value, in my opinion, but she has the right to her own beliefs in that regard. However, she doesn’t have the right to claim that she doesn’t want certain people in her pool, and then post a sign that says, “Public pool”. It seems to me that she is BEGGING for legal trouble just for that part of the sign. The obvious bigotry is only compounding her foolishness.

Posted by: JenniferT | December 15, 2011, 10:34 am 10:34 am

TOM–When have you ever seen a BLACKS ONLY sign. I remembered my parents and grandparents recalling a COLORED ONLY sign….but that was back when equality was unheard of. This lady is wacked out!

Posted by: NOTALLRIGHT | December 15, 2011, 10:37 am 10:37 am

Chris-WHAT? Whose blaming anyone here. Anyone can be charged with a hate crime.

Posted by: WOW | December 15, 2011, 10:41 am 10:41 am

I think its hilarious. People take things way too literally now adays. Everyone is afraid to hurt someone’s feelings. Come on people. The world seems to have lost its sense of humor. If you don’t like it, don’t look at it.

Posted by: LDB | December 15, 2011, 10:42 am 10:42 am

Hey Chris – When will people learn it makes no sense to get on an article that clearly shows racism and add to it? And I’d like to see you if people had signs up reading “No Chris.”

Posted by: lexingtonlady | December 15, 2011, 10:44 am 10:44 am

Who cares, it’s her property, not a public pool.

Posted by: Seriously | December 15, 2011, 10:44 am 10:44 am

All of you hollering about how it’s private property…WHY post a sign that says “PUBLIC Pool” then? THAT should be the question burning in your minds. MY private property has signs that SAY “PRIVATE PROPERTY- No Trespassing-access by written permission of owner only”. Now how stupid would it be of me to slap up a sign that says “Trespassing permitted by white people only” on my PRIVATE PROPERTY, if I still didn’t want ANYONE wandering around on my land?

Posted by: JenniferT | December 15, 2011, 10:44 am 10:44 am

“Who cares?” Translation – I’m white and no skin off my back.” “I think it’s hilarious.” Translation – I used to be the school bully and never amounted to much.

Posted by: lexingtonlady | December 15, 2011, 10:51 am 10:51 am

The pool is always closed, stingrays in the water.

Posted by: Suzy | December 15, 2011, 10:51 am 10:51 am

This is disgusting and she should be fined at the least. How dare she.

Posted by: Shelbel | December 15, 2011, 10:51 am 10:51 am

Trash collects trash

Posted by: Deirdre | December 15, 2011, 10:56 am 10:56 am

That sign clearly says “Public Pool- Whites Only”. I say ALL us white folks oughta go take us a dip in that there pool! Last one in is a rotten egg!

Posted by: JenniferT | December 15, 2011, 10:58 am 10:58 am

was actually told during a job interview on 2 occasions that I was qualified for the job and they wanted to hire me but couldn’t because they had to meet a quota to hire an African American. I was told not to repeat that because they could get into trouble. These were law firms. So much for freedom in our country. Posted by: Susan | December 15, 2011, 10:09 am 10:09 am ____________ Yeah. Sure you were told that. You know, Susan, if it weren’t for white PRIVILEGE, there would not have been a need for “quotas” of hiring races other than white. There is no “reverse” racism. Do you know why there is a Miss Black USA? Because Blacks were EXCLUDED from entering the Miss America Pageant. Dolts frustrate me.

Posted by: MsT-mac | December 15, 2011, 11:01 am 11:01 am

The sign does have historic value and significance… in a museum. I can’t believe anyone would think it is appropriate to put this on their pool. It sounds like this woman is clearly racist.

However, with that said, it’s also important to look at the issues separately. Is it appropriate? No – the sign in hurtful and the woman shouldn’t be surprised that she was labeled a racist for putting up the sign. But, is it LEGAL? If it’s her own property, and not for the general use of tenants or others, then she has the right to put up whatever sign she wants.

The right to do stupid and tasteless things is an inherent part of a free society. Not everything can be illegal.

Posted by: pfk | December 15, 2011, 11:03 am 11:03 am

I’m going to call this one like I see it. Of course this woman is racist. Read the article and it’s obvious. She knows it, I know, everyone with intelligence should know it. All I want to say to her is, if you’re going to be racist, just admit it. Don’t play dumb and pretend that everyone has misinterpreted you. She’s only doing this because someone reported her and it’s become a national story. This lady put up the sign for others to see, so she should now stand behind her position.

Posted by: thatwasobvious | December 15, 2011, 11:12 am 11:12 am

I’m reading this from Vienna, Autria and wondering why the discussion is so much about race. It seems to me the article is not clear enough to decide wether this woman is racist or not. We don’t know her policy about letting people swim in the pool, we don’t know exacly when the sign was placed on the gate, such an uninformative article! The only thing I can clearly see is this woman is stupid. That sign may be historical, precious, even exotic to me. But the risk of offending others is so high… why would you do that? To make a point of your “property”? And that “white rights” comment… Really?
As for quotas, I am a woman and I’ve been discriminated a lot, at university and on the job, in Italy, in Austria, in UK. A big company hired me years ago becausa they wanted more women on positions usually held by men. Maybe it was a payback!! For the bad notes I got from misogin teachers who couldn’t stand women in a technical faculty, or earning less than male colleaugues for the same job… You know what? I’m sick of being treated like a panda, of having special rights etc. But if women weren’t discriminated to begin with, we wouldn’t need special laws…

Posted by: Alien | December 15, 2011, 11:12 am 11:12 am

Mst-Mac 11:01am – Then explain why there is still a Miss Black USA pageant? The Miss America and MIss USA pageants were opened up to all races years ago. Just as those pageants were racist when they were for whites only, so is the Miss Black USA pageant today if it excludes other races. By the way, reverse racism really does exist. Racism is found in every race.

Posted by: Thoughts | December 15, 2011, 11:12 am 11:12 am

THOUGHTS – A “minority” can still go there.

Posted by: lexingtonlady | December 15, 2011, 11:21 am 11:21 am

Michael, civil rights are for all of us to respect and protect. The whole point is that those who break them are in trouble with the law, it isn’t up to an individual to fight alone for those rights each time. We, thankfully, no longer live in the Wild, Wild West days.
The majority of us want to live in a civilized country where we are all equal. Those in the minority, whatever their color, should feel the weight of the law bear down on them when they go against anyone’s civil rights.
No one looks weak for calling out the bigots. The bigots just look stupid for seeming to be unaware of the way the law works.

Posted by: Librarian53 | December 15, 2011, 11:26 am 11:26 am

There is a funeral home in Atlanta that has a sign that states “African-American Funeral Home”!! Now my first reaction was “I bet if it said White Funeral Home it would be all over the media because of people complaining” and then I went about my day! The point is some African-Americans take such things like this a little too sensitive but they’re ok with something the funeral home example. I just don’t get..you sit there and say equal right for everyone but then you are ok with there being a BET on television or like others posted a Miss Latino or Miss African American. GROW up and stop complaining about things that are so silly like these signs!!

Posted by: Bridgette | December 15, 2011, 11:30 am 11:30 am

I think the woman used the comment “white rights” because someone was using the “black trump” against her. Why can’t we all live together in harmony? Why do we always have to “colorize” everything? I think ABC reported on this just to keep the fire stirred up.

Posted by: Dixie | December 15, 2011, 11:32 am 11:32 am

What a pathetic sign. I mean really who cares it’s her private property granted but it says something that the owner would want to collect historic pathetic signs like that? I have no time for this person really they probably wish we all lived back in the 1800s… move on. The pool owner is obviously a sad sad individual who needs to get a life, this is 2011 almost 2012 !!

Posted by: steve | December 15, 2011, 11:33 am 11:33 am

The sign is distasteful. But this is this person’s private pool, she can include or exclude whom ever she pleases.

Posted by: guin | December 15, 2011, 11:34 am 11:34 am

Thought S – All pageants were exclusive of Black people. Now that we have our own competition, based on our standards of beauty, we should stop having it? BTW, nobody from the Miss America Pageant ever made a formal statement denouncing the racism of exclusion in the past. White people have been treated preferentially, to the exclusion of blak people and it still goes on today. It’s true that anyone can participate in the The Miss America pageant and most other activities that are open to whites. My question is why would Black women want to? Kick me once, shame on you. Kick me again, shame on me. That applies to all areas of my life.

Posted by: MsT-mac | December 15, 2011, 11:35 am 11:35 am

Black on white racism is very much alive in this country and it is more abundant than white on black racism.

Anyone ever hear of White History Month? How about White Entertainment Channel? How about Miss White USA?

Racism ends when we end putting any race ahead of another. You can’t say end racism yet have so many things that are exclusive to one race. It just doesn’t work that way. Oh and spare me the “yeah but the whites did it x years ago” crap. I’m not talking about yesteryear, I’m talking about today.

Posted by: trish | December 15, 2011, 11:41 am 11:41 am

MST-MAC…so if the Miss America pageant officials put out a “formal” statement apologizing for their insensitivity 25 years ago, you think black women feel better somehow? Why should people now be expected to apologize for choices/rules they personally did not make a generation ago? There have been so many injustices done over the past 200 years, but to apologize for it now seems simply ridiculous.

Posted by: ocmarsha | December 15, 2011, 11:53 am 11:53 am

Take it down! Keep it hanging in your home if you wanna keep, but otherwise it is very racist!!!! We are in a different time than when this sign was made and its a disgrace to both races actually……what kind of idiot does this and claims its because its antique…..whatever!!!!

Posted by: Lisa | December 15, 2011, 11:57 am 11:57 am

You people make mountains out of mole hills. Media, you slant stories. Just because the lady used “white” to describe herself in a story about white and black, you guys get all riled up. How stupid. I liked Susan in Warrenville’s comments. If I were mother of you people, I would make you all shut up and put your heads on the desk. I’m sick of your squabbling.

Posted by: Jeanne | December 15, 2011, 11:58 am 11:58 am

The cost of running that pool (water, heat, maintenance) is factored into the amount that the landlord charges each tenant for rent, so I presume the man is paying the same amount of rent that all other tenants are paying then the man should either get a deduction from his rent for not being allowed to use the pool or have the benefits of what he is paying for like all of the other tenants. I imagine the response from this landlord would be to cry foul, it’s not fair, I deserve my money. She opened up this can of worms with her own actions. She deserves what’s coming to her. She’s a bigot, she knows it and now everyone in the US knows it.

Posted by: howdymo1 | December 15, 2011, 11:58 am 11:58 am

Why do African Americans get called this proper noun when Europe Americans just get called whites?

I demand fairness!

Posted by: realist | December 15, 2011, 12:00 pm 12:00 pm

Trish — Bet you don’t have a problem with the fact that GENERATIONS of blacks were taught American History as WHITE History. Bet you DO have a problem with the fact that BET was started by a Black man so that music by Black artists could be showcased. Know why? Because MTV would NOT showcase black artists (Michael Jackson finally integrated MTV). BTW, it was ALWAYS White Miss America, until Vanessa Williams won in 1984. I love Vanessa, and it was common knowledge in the African-American community that she was chosen because she has caucasian features. We were proud anyway. That was only 28 years ago. As I stated in an earlier post, during the past decade whites were FOUR TIMES as likely to receive Presidential pardons than blacks. But black people who were denied couldn’t know for sure that the denial was based on their race, BUT IT WAS. The proof is in the pudding. And, discrimination against Blacks (and now Hispanics, Muslims, Gays) continues RIGHT UP UNTIL TODAY.

Posted by: MsT-mac | December 15, 2011, 12:03 pm 12:03 pm

” Hein said. “If I have to stick up for my white rights, I have to stick up for my white rights. It goes both ways.”
This statement makes no sense, but then the author just wanted controversy and made the error

Posted by: Lizzie | December 15, 2011, 12:07 pm 12:07 pm

Nothing like a white bigot that can’t even admit shes a peice of racist garbage. Like white people don’t have chemicals in their hair. If your going to be a worthless racist, embrace it and admit it. Be proud to be a peice of worthless crap.Even funnier are the racist here that are trying to spin this bullcrap like this a-hole didn’t know what she was doing.

Posted by: jstate83 | December 15, 2011, 12:07 pm 12:07 pm

I understand about collecting antiques, but who collects raciest antiques like this? Shame on that landlord. She needs to be investigated for other discrimination issues.

Posted by: cawill62 | December 15, 2011, 12:13 pm 12:13 pm

Why is Black Entertainment TV (BET) allowed and not considered racist? WET would be, I guarantee it.

Posted by: zed | December 15, 2011, 12:17 pm 12:17 pm

Lisa, I guess you didn’t read the sign carefully. It says public pool, thus she is negating the fact that it is private property by posting the sign.

Posted by: Librarian53 | December 15, 2011, 12:18 pm 12:18 pm

Why? Because grandma had a Schnauzer that went potty on the carpet back in 1960, therefore all future Schnauzers must have their noses rubbed in it.

Posted by: ang | December 15, 2011, 12:22 pm 12:22 pm

Have you ever tought that open racism against African Americans and centuries of slavery are the reason why there are still quotas and “African American Funeral Home”? If you aren’t discriminated for generations to begin with you dan’t need any special attention later…
THIS is why we are still talking about race and racism in 2011, white people don’t need any special protection ‘cos they were never discriminated!!!
(sorry for grammar/spelling, I’m not mothertongue)

Posted by: Alien | December 15, 2011, 12:22 pm 12:22 pm

“true story’s”story never mentions anything about race or affirmative action, its only implied because of the context in which its posted. But in regards to affirmative action hiring: “true story”‘ s account seems to be anything but true. A non-descript “dream company does not hire that way from just one school. Sounds like a great tale warning us against affirmative action, but most hr have the pick of the litter. If a position opened up for minorities specifically, they would interview from more than one school. Lol. Just a logical observation. And plenty of positions that open up with preference to minorities are because companies receive tax write offs, grants etc as monetary compensation as well. And as for affirmative action getting in the way of hiring the most qualified, Just ask any Asian that feels like writing “Asian” helps them get into an ivy league school. Affirmative action levels the playing field giving a chance to minorities. A chance that is often paid for with financial incentive many times.

Posted by: The meaning of true story | December 15, 2011, 12:25 pm 12:25 pm

It’s sad that the landlady is so insensitive. The article doesn’t say if the man and his daughter live on the same property, but private property is private property. Just as I can put up a sign saying I COEXIST, if I so wanted to I should be able to put up a sign saying ‘I want segregation’. I least the landlady posts her ignorance and folks don’t have to waste their time with her trying to figure her out.

Posted by: Karla Greenwood | December 15, 2011, 12:26 pm 12:26 pm

Ocmarsha — Yeah, when you’re on the receiving end of CONTINUED discrimination, it’s never too late. And when you’re on the other end of the stick, you get to say what you said.

Posted by: MsT-mac | December 15, 2011, 12:37 pm 12:37 pm

White Rights, I agree. I am tired of white americans having their rights stamped out to give way for rights to blacks, mexicans, muslims, etc. You can call them civil rights, but civil rights is now for minorities and god haters. If you aren’t a minority or are not a religion other than christian or atheist, than you must be a white racist and your rights will be stripped. I could careless about if this woman is an actual “racist”, here freedom of speech has been violated on her own private property regardless if the message is intentional or not or if she is racist or not.

Posted by: White Rights | December 15, 2011, 12:41 pm 12:41 pm

I am not African-American, Jamaican-American, Asian-American, etc…I am Polish/Lithuanian-American. This landlord really offends me. Anyone with hate in their hearts offends me.

Posted by: cawill62 | December 15, 2011, 12:42 pm 12:42 pm

she needs to be smacked. She has a lot of hate and anger in her heart. “defend my white rights”? What the hell are “white rights”? This lady is stupid and ignorant.

Posted by: tray | December 15, 2011, 12:53 pm 12:53 pm

really…
she must think we are all stupid.
just admit you are a racist and stop the denial.
since it is her own private property then i have to say ‘to each his/her own…’
and just walk away. you can’t make them any more smarter than they wish to be and this woman?
she wishes to be ignorant and live in a time and space that just doesn’t exist anymore.

Posted by: hemnebob | December 15, 2011, 1:01 pm 1:01 pm

I keep seeing people attempting to drive the point that she has the right to *display ANYTHING she wants on her private property, because it is HER private property. Now let’s just think outside the box for a moment…. This is obviously not true or even a valid argument/statement. Consider this.. Let’s say this same woman wants to be a nudist on and in HER private property. She decides to leave all windows open, blinds open and curtains open, allowing others to see her while she’s nude all day. Sometimes she *displays her naked body in the window of her private property. Other times she *displays her naked body on the yard of her private property. Now, if she *displays herself so that other people can see her nude, that is clearly an offense on the same basis. Other people would complain and they should. You can NOT just display whatever you feel like displaying simply because you took some money and bought some dirt, grass, or a house. No business (airline, bus company, train) could EVER do something like this, because the company would rightfully (pun intended) get sued. Companies go out of their way to hire teams of peole to filter through all their signs and material that the public sees to ensure other people are not damaged by their negligence. This same responsibility does not only apply to business owners (and this woman just happened to be one), but it also applies to individual owners of private property. It makes no difference. We own business, cars, houses, land, airplanes, stores, etc. This is an issue and not just a moral issue. So many of you should be ashamed of yourselves. Where is your empathy, compassion, understanding and conscience? Some people just have no love for others…only themselves. That’s all I keep hearing.. Mine, mine, mine, mine. “It’s MY PROPERTY!” That’s a bunch of nonsense and you know it. Stop lying to yourself and maybe you’ll have a shot at forgiveness. These signs were created and displayed in years when PEOPLE were considered PRIVATE property!! Stop thinking about yourself and think about that! This is just wrong and you know it… even if there are holes in the law. We all know there were MANY holes in the law when this sign was create.

Posted by: US Citizen | December 15, 2011, 1:15 pm 1:15 pm

Then explain why there is still a Miss Black USA pageant?—because the beauty standard is that white women are more beautiful. Long straight, preferably, blond hair, fair skin, is considered the beauty ideal. Hello??? are you this soft to ask this question? You ask 100 men who they prefer, the blond bombshell or a dark skinned black women with her naturally curly coarse hair. There are many beauty contests that try to re-imagine for us what we consider beautiful, plus size beauty pageants, etc, but if you were at all observant you’d notice 99% of actresses have one common look. And even the one successful ‘black’ actress of our day, Hallie Barry, is half white and looks very white. I am white, but I’m not thick. Raising a girl, in particular, is hard with body image, particularly if everything she sees is some ridiculous ideal she will never meet. You should watch Chris Rock’s documentary on black hair. Between the chemicals or the ‘weaves’, it’s ridiculous that black girls cant just grow their own hair and just like it the way it is naturally.

Posted by: GrannyNosBest | December 15, 2011, 1:40 pm 1:40 pm

Why do African Americans get called this proper noun- I dont know, it’s inaccurate. how do you know someone has decedents from Africa. If I must call someone by their race, which really shouldn’t have to be done in civilized society, but, in such a case as this, I prefer to say black. Even though it’s really brown and we’re more tan. She’s a racist. I’m white, she’s a racist. If you’re a black person and you see someone who hates whites, please return the favor and call them a racist as well. We’ll all do our part to keep our wackos in check.

Posted by: GrannyNosBest | December 15, 2011, 1:43 pm 1:43 pm

Thank you U.S. Citizen. Just because it’s your private property doesn’t mean you can do whatever you want on it. We have laws and freedom doesn’t equal do whatever you want. This woman obviously is under the delusion that her “white rights” are in jeopardy. Notice she didn’t say property rights.

Posted by: Thumbs Up US Citizen | December 15, 2011, 1:48 pm 1:48 pm

I keep seeing people attempting to drive the point that she has the right to *display ANYTHING she wants on her private property—-she can. Then, deal with the consequences and dont whine about it. I could put up a billboard that says “I hate Italians” and then see my house get egged probably within a week, there would probably be news here saying “what the…???” There used to be alot of “No Irish Need Apply” signs around here in the Boston area 100 years ago. So…..try to put one of those up. tee hee hee. See how long you have windows in your house. Hey, do what you want, lady. but, then, deal with the consequences of your actions. I admire that her house was no vandalized. I honestly do not know that if you did such an equivalent sign to the Irish of Boston, that you’d not lose thousands of dollars in vandalism, to your house, in fact, I can see folks making such adeu to make the vandalism as humiliating to you as possible.

Posted by: GrannyNosBest | December 15, 2011, 1:49 pm 1:49 pm

True Story, your story sounds like a bunch of BS. Name the school and the company that did this. I bet you can’t

Posted by: Matt | December 15, 2011, 1:53 pm 1:53 pm

The little girl was 10 when this happened this spring. She is bi-racial and lives with her mother, her father is white. The landlord is his cousin. Ever since the family moved out of the apartment, the landlord has been sending them obscene text messages every day, and screams obscenities at them when she sees them in public. As for her paying taxes on the rental property? She demanded that rent payments be made in cash. Rumor is that the sign was purchased on Ebay, was not a gift.

Posted by: Marie | December 15, 2011, 1:54 pm 1:54 pm

In the end, it doesn’t matter if the woman is racist, stupid, mean or simply misguided. It is her property. She doesn’t have to let anyone – regardless of race – use her pool. The question isn’t whether she has the right to be racist – everyone has the right to believe or think what they want no matter how wrong they are or how disgusted we are by their attitude – the only question that matters here is whether she violated anyone’s civil rights by placing that sign on her private property. Yes, the knee-jerk response is yes, but think about it – the ruling by the Ohio Civil Rights Board clearly said that this woman does not have the right to hang an sign with a slogan on her own property – this is about free speech. It’s not about discrimination – unless we know for a fact that her tenants are guaranteed unrestricted access to her pool and that non-white tenants or their guests are banned, there is no proof that she actually discriminated against anyone.

Posted by: missy me | December 15, 2011, 2:01 pm 2:01 pm

There is nothing wrong with complaining. That’s how you let people know that you don’t like something. Complaining is good, that’s why polls and surveys are taken. But, complaining should be followed up by action to change.

Posted by: US Citizen | December 15, 2011, 2:11 pm 2:11 pm

Marie. The landlord is not his cousin get ur facts straight. And the sign wasn’t bought off of eBay. And the rent was not demanded in cash.

Posted by: k | December 15, 2011, 2:20 pm 2:20 pm

If she wants to keep it in her own home,bedroom,ect.,where no one else see’s it,that’s fine,but she should’nt be allowed to put it up out in public.

Posted by: Rob | December 15, 2011, 2:21 pm 2:21 pm

The fact is yes if it is on private property she should be able to put whatever she wants, the sad fact is that someone would actually want to take something so hate driven and hang it anywhere for that matter. What trash she must be. Antique or not it is sending a message of hate.

Posted by: JAMTX | December 15, 2011, 2:21 pm 2:21 pm

Nothing to explain. She is a racist. She just dug her hole deeper!

Posted by: smoochie | December 15, 2011, 2:25 pm 2:25 pm

Sorry lady but you erred in judgment. You may have your “white rights” (man, give me a break — how about just plain “rights”?) to display the sign but the context in which it was displayed is improper. Display it in your living room? Fine. Donate it to a civil rights museum for display? Even better. But to display it at a place where black kids just may want to have some recreational fun is a bit over the top. Whether the pool is public or private is not a relevant point; respecting the dignity of kids is.

Posted by: JustMeIntheRock | December 15, 2011, 2:27 pm 2:27 pm

True Story, I am a former Bell Laboratories employee. Bell Labs was THE research and development engineering and software company in the WORLD, bar none, and is nearly 100 years old. They made it a point NOT to hire people with a 4.0 because they found them to be lacking in other things that needed in order to work well with others, in other words, they tended to be maladjusted and lacking in social intelligence. BTW, you have Bell Labs to thank for giving Dennnis Ritchie a job, as browsers and all things Internet related run on his stuff. BL have had many of their employees to create revolutionary inventions, win nobel prizes and patents. Wiiliam Shockley and Richard Hamming are two names that immediately come to mind.

Posted by: G | December 15, 2011, 2:45 pm 2:45 pm

Mst-Mac 11:35am – I’ve tried to post this three times already but will try once more. Yes, as long as the Black Miss America contest is open only to blacks, it is just as racist as the Miss America pageant was before it opened its doors to minorities and therefore it should be discontinued.

Posted by: Thoughts | December 15, 2011, 2:47 pm 2:47 pm

There are plenty of things that are “historical” that aren’t worth posting. This sign is one of them, clearly she is a racist and just doesn’t have the ba–s to say it outright. Idiot.

Posted by: Me | December 15, 2011, 2:48 pm 2:48 pm

Virtual arguments often times don’t get very far. All it takes is one idiot who none of us knows, to bring us all into a feud about hidden skeletons in our lives. So many people unconsciously hide their own vile thoughts and ways behind the law of the land. However, actions can be either right or wrong regardless of the laws in your land. Simply because our laws may not do the best job of policing who we are inside, does not mean we have no responsibility to be better people inside.

Example: There are no US laws against hating people because of they way they look, but that doesn’t mean we should freely hate others for something like that. Long before there were US laws, this responsibility within existed. I think a lot of people have so much disregard for some types of people, partly because they feel like they’ll never need a person who fits that profile for anything.

There are no US laws against selfishness, but it is much better to be selfless than selfish. I’m sure everyone reading this would agree. Selflessness involes putting our wants aside for a greater cause and purpose for others. The reality is that we cannot sit in the middle. We are all one or the other. What this woman is broadcasting is in fact a selfish act. Knowing all that she knows about what it does to so many people, she does not care at all and she wants to win a trvial victory for herself. Again, what happened to people having a conscience? Wild animals do not have a conscience, but we were given one. This is why we feel sad when we see other people suffer. Where is your conscience?

Posted by: US Citizen | December 15, 2011, 3:14 pm 3:14 pm

K. you get YOUR facts straight! Obviously you are not in the know, nor a close friend/relative of the family!

Posted by: Marie | December 15, 2011, 3:20 pm 3:20 pm

There is NO explanation for this. Your right to free speech ends when it conflicts with what is right and decent. This is neither right or decent. As for Miss Black America – how many Black contestants showed up to compete for the St. Patrick’s Day queen, or as the Santa Lucia queen, or other ethnic beauty/talent contests? There are hundreds of them in t his country, many of them specific to a certain region or ethnic background. Miss America pageant had a history of excluding non-white (and in some cases ethnic white) participants at the local levels, ensuring that only the blonde, blue eyed Miss America represented this country. That is what led to Miss Black America, and other ethnicity based pageants. Get over it, please!!!

Posted by: natfrankie | December 15, 2011, 3:29 pm 3:29 pm

If its her own private pool, then why post a sign saying Public Swimming Pool? Also the sign includes “whites only”. If I was a person seeking a apartment and came across that, I too would be offended. She should have place the sign in her home, not in a place where it can be seen by the public. I agree, it should go both ways but its easier for white to say get over it when they were not the ones who were put through slavery.

Posted by: Lynn | December 15, 2011, 3:34 pm 3:34 pm

Comon everybody… Don’t act like you don’t understand the real reason that organizations for “Black” people exist today. One person commented that, “Blacks” should stop complaining and “buy their own pools”. Well, the Miss Black USA Pageant is the metaphoric “own pool”. Another person commented that “White” people are more beautiful than “Black” people. Feel the sense of rejection and inferiority??

It is merely a response to a nationwide and often international rejection and condemnation that was very recently aimed at “Black” people. It’s the same reason that there are groups specifically for empowering Women….because for so long, women were rejected and prohibited from doing MANY basic things that “White” men could do, just because they were women. Now, because of that discrimination, such groups exist. We are adults (I think) and should be able to understand the complexity of that whole situation, without trying to use it as a distraction from what’s really important.

And I put “Black” and “White” in quotes, because I have never seen a black or white person. It’s quite rediculous to categorize a person by the color of skin that wraps their body. And again, the skin is NOT black or white. We’re much deeper than a color.

Posted by: US Citizen | December 15, 2011, 3:39 pm 3:39 pm

Marie. Finger !!! And I know my FACTS ! THEY ARE LIARS !!!

Posted by: K | December 15, 2011, 3:50 pm 3:50 pm

It is unclear from this article exactly what kinds of properties these are. For instance, let’s say the landlord has a house with a pool, and rents out two other houses in the neighborhood. Those tenants are allowed to use her pool if they ask. That’s private property. However, if this is an apartment complex or set of row houses with a pool, it is not private property. Which is it?

Posted by: Sheila | December 15, 2011, 3:58 pm 3:58 pm

@NATFRANKIE, I understand where you’re going. American slavery and racial inequality (with regards to laws) “officially” came to a soft end roughly in the 1960s. That was not long ago and it has had a devestating residual effect on so many victims and families of victims. It is still a BIG problem, even though the US laws declared it done. Nobody can deny that right now. Over the years, I’ve heard so many people say that “Black” people need to stop complaining and just move on. Well, “Black” people can’t move on by themselves. It takes great effort from everyone to move on. The impact of the whole American inequality thing is devestating! Just read these comments and even today in 2011, you can still feel just a taste of the pain and hate that exist because of what was done to “Black” people. During that loooong period.

Posted by: US Citizen | December 15, 2011, 4:02 pm 4:02 pm

Pool use is not the real issue here…. The real issue is the message that the owner was broadcasting on her gate for everyone outside of her home. The pool use seemed to be someething that the tenant did to kick-start or further push his case of descrimination and whatever else.

Posted by: US Citizen | December 15, 2011, 4:11 pm 4:11 pm

Who in thier right mind would keep a racist sign for 40 years AFTER it was deemed unacceptable legally and morally – and then decide to put it back up because ‘a black girl got the pool water dirty’????

Give me a break. The only person who would do that AND say that ‘if I don’t stand up for white rights’ is ABSOLUTELY racist to the core.

Posted by: FormerMarineSgt | December 15, 2011, 4:25 pm 4:25 pm

I’am a white male 59,wife Spanish,son you figure it out.I’am with her namesake above on this get over it.Racism is alive and well I see it every day in a work place that doesn’t allow political material in but I see Obama Tshirts everyday and a company fearful of being declared racist if a word is said.Her right to free speech is hers as is all Americans ignorant or not.I see the NAACP but where is that white org.Racism,I see AMERICANS not AFRO,MEXICAN,ASIAN or WHITE.Go ahead keep the good old days alive and get out the whites only restroom sign.After IKE came through I found Anna late 70′s poor with no one and electrical torn down ,tree on roof,6 men into rap not work I put my problems aside hers were greater.I didn’t see an old black lady but a person,my reward a hug as she wept.I drove 20 miles to check on her.I asked her not to hug me I stink she said you smell like my angel to me.So go ahead worry about that sign.I’ll concern myself with people.Anyone want to help or are we to involved with signs.

Posted by: Jimbo | December 15, 2011, 4:32 pm 4:32 pm

Sorry,I’am new to this hernamesake ,it’s Michael I was agreeing with on the comment.

Posted by: Jimbo | December 15, 2011, 4:52 pm 4:52 pm

A PORTION FROM A STORY ABOUT “BLACK WALL STREET” in Alabama: “About 75 armed African Americans came to the jail to offer assistance to the sheriff to protect the prisoner. The sheriff not only refused the assistance but also deputized the White mob to disarm the Blacks. With a defenseless Black community before them, the White mob advanced to the Greenwood district where they first looted and then burned all Black businesses, homes, and churches. Any Black resisters were shot and thrown into the fires. When the National Guard arrived, they assisted the others by arresting all Black men, women, and children, and herding them into detention centers at the Baseball Park and Convention Hall. As many as 4,000 Blacks were held under armed guard in detention. Dr. Arthur C. Jackson, a nationally renowned surgeon and called by the Mayo brothers (of Mayo Clinic fame) “the most able Negro surgeon in America”, was shot at the Convention Hall and allowed to bleed to death. The “Chicago Tribune” Newspaper reported that Whites also used private airplanes to drop kerosene and dynamite on Black homes. By the next morning the entire Greenwood district was reduced to ashes and not one White was even accused of any wrongdoing, much less arrested.”

Posted by: MsT-mac | December 15, 2011, 5:00 pm 5:00 pm

I totally agree with the idea of just viewing us all as Americans if you were born and reside in America. I think this is the only country or one of the silly few to use the colors of skin for social classification……for only TWO different-looking types of citizens though! So rediculous. Out of all the differente types of people in this “melting pot” country, the “color thing” only applies to two different types of people in this country. Nationality is used for the rest of this country’s citizens. LOL

Posted by: US Citizen | December 15, 2011, 5:06 pm 5:06 pm

The question, “Would there be a problem if the sign said ‘Coloured Only’?” isn’t even valid. When did people of color oppress whites in America socially and economically, with heavy discrimination and the law on their sides?

Posted by: Sandra | December 15, 2011, 5:51 pm 5:51 pm

This woman’s logic is questionable at best. She insists that she’s not a racist, but instead collects “historical” artifacts. Does she not realize that the “historical” artifact in question has its roots in racism? How is it ok for her to post such a sign, claim that she’s not a racist, but then insist that she will fight for her “white rights”? Faulty logic will get you in trouble. Every time.

Posted by: lauryn | December 15, 2011, 5:58 pm 5:58 pm

It’s her property. I also collect old memorabilia and I wish I had my hands on that sign. love it or hate it that sign is a part of our American history. It is what it is. Lady whoever you are. I can appreciate the historic value of the sign. You have on your pool fence is a master piece…And I am a Proud American Black man. If I should ever have an occasion to meet you face to face. it would be my pleasure to deal with you based on the content of your character. Live free.

Posted by: Franlin | December 15, 2011, 6:04 pm 6:04 pm

The root of racism is ignorance not a sign. This sign is an example of how ignorant the racist is. Do you people want to be victims all of your lives? The sign is an artifact just as an American Indian arrowhead is.

Posted by: Franklin | December 15, 2011, 6:11 pm 6:11 pm

First off this lady sounds like a real piece of work. Even her father has to ask to use her pool?! Control freak to the hilt! I hope she doesn’t have kids, that’s all we need in the world, more greedy selfish people!

Posted by: Chad | December 15, 2011, 6:17 pm 6:17 pm

Perhaps I’m a bit isolated from narrow-mindedness and bigotry since I love in a liberal and tolerant West Coast city (thank GOD) . . . but I am absolutely shocked and appalled that the response of so many is, more or less, “it’s her property–she can be a bigot if she wants to.” As a tenant who rents her property, she is subject to the Fair Housing Act, which prohibits discrimination, plain and simple.

Posted by: JP | December 15, 2011, 6:21 pm 6:21 pm

First let me say that I am NOT a racist in any way. As far as the story goes, no matter what this woman says I kind of think she intentionally put up this sign and it is terribly disrespectful.
What does annoy me, however, is that nearly 150 years after slavery was abolished in the US a lot of African-Americans still blame white people and feel like they are “owed” something. I don’t believe that slavery should have ever existed but unfortunately it did. I just wish some of those people that want to continue to carry that chip on their shoulder would just get over it already. We can’t change history we can only work to make the future better for everyone. I have a lot of black friends that are educated, hold jobs and are respectful members of society and I have the utmost respect for them and anyone like them. I like what one blogger said, why can’t we all be referred to as American no matter what color our skin is. God Bless America!

Posted by: Born In The USA | December 15, 2011, 6:25 pm 6:25 pm

Wow, so much anti-white hate and racism in these comments.

Posted by: David | December 15, 2011, 6:38 pm 6:38 pm

I was going to post a comment but after reading the comments here……

Posted by: concerned81 | December 15, 2011, 7:10 pm 7:10 pm

I cannot imagine for a second that she is that ignorant. Absolutely, frightfully appalling.

Posted by: merridee | December 15, 2011, 7:38 pm 7:38 pm

initiating her freedom of speech. It’s her property she can post what she wants, if you don’t like it don’t associate with her.

Posted by: goodforher | December 15, 2011, 7:46 pm 7:46 pm

Well in this case.. This women should plead guilty and get it over with! I have millions of friends who are African American! This is a discrase to me! My friends are going bizare over this! We talk over the phone at night every night trying to figure out what exactly thsi women is doing! And i STILL ask myself everynight what is this women doing???!!!!!???!!!?

Posted by: Taylor | December 15, 2011, 7:48 pm 7:48 pm

The Miss Black USA pageant, and other similar institutions, like the “HBC” classification (historically black college), were all created BEFORE African-Americans were permitted to either compete in such events or attend “regular” colleges. It was the segregationists (predominantly white) who forced the creation of these things. Now you’re complaining about its existence? And by the way, white people DO attend HBCs, and how do you know as a white woman you wouldn’t be permitted to compete in Miss Black USA? Has any white person here been prohibited from participating in it?

Posted by: CMill | December 15, 2011, 7:57 pm 7:57 pm

No problem if Hein wants to collect racist memorabelia, but she should be sensitive enought to display it privately. There’s no excuse for hurting another’s feelings when it’s so easily avoided.

Posted by: Cassandra | December 15, 2011, 8:27 pm 8:27 pm

NO she is NOT being racist. It is a historical sign and it is still a free country. It’s a private home and if they don’ t like they can move.

Posted by: Cheryl | December 15, 2011, 8:54 pm 8:54 pm

“I was actually told during a job interview on 2 occasions that I was qualified for the job and they wanted to hire me but couldn’t because they had to meet a quota to hire an African American. I was told not to repeat that because they could get into trouble.” (Posted by Susan)
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And yet, despite being directly asked not to repeat the comment, you post it on the Internet for thousands to read. Way to go! Methinks you might not have gotten the job because your perspective employers figured you couldn’t keep confidential material confidential.

Posted by: Minorkey1 | December 15, 2011, 8:56 pm 8:56 pm

It doesn’t become okay or even legal if the “Whites Only” sign is posted on Hein’s own property, a property which, by the way, isn’t truly private, as she owns a duplex that is rented to others, thus making the property and the pool shared-use. Historically, many Jim Crow signs were posted on private property, even as late as the 1950s and 60s…for instance, the dentist office below was, no doubt, privately owned, as were the dimestore, the movie theater, the restaurants, the ambulance, the coke machines, etc. However, the sign itself in absence of the lady’s discriminatory actions wouldn’t have been much of an issue. Racial discrimination is against the law. If her pool is allowed to be used by white people but not by blacks, she’s discriminating on the basis of race, and THAT is against the law. The posting of the sign supports that this is EXACTLY what she’s doing. According to the commission officers who investigated this case, multiple witnesses relayed that she posted the sign after the black girl swam in the pool AND also told them that she did so specifically to keep black kids out of the pool. The lady is a bigot.

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White Only

The children laugh, almost disbelieving my memories of growing up in Natchez, Mississippi during the 1950s and 60s. Maybe one day I will write a book, just for them. Pictures in a book of “White only” signs above entrances and water fountains are like “whatnots” on a table, harmless and quiet, unable to reveal the real crime against humanity. And I’ve got a book in me.

A “white only” sign above the only bus or train depot entrance in a thunderstorm, with your mama getting soaked, holding a shoebox full of food because restaurants serve “white only” is another matter altogether.

Approaching the dentist’s office, we would swing to the rear to the “colored” waiting room, the back porch and wooden benches. We couldn’t show enough gratitude and we waited in winter coats, rain coats, and in sweltering summer heat.

The “white only” public school threw their outdated books to the “colored” schools, instead of in the trash. But our diligent teachers taught us to sand the outer edges so the books would at least appear clean and we made book covers from brown grocery bags.

We could buy everything in the dimestore but a soda or a burger from the same dimestore’s lunch counter. All hotel rooms were “white only”. We watched movies from the segregated “colored” balcony of the theaters. People were beaten and killed or just disappeared because voting was for “whites only”. A “white only” ambulance couldn’t respond to a “colored” emergency, so local “colored” funeral homes provided this service to our community, though they had no medical training.

Anonymous,
Avondale Estates, MS

Posted by: Minorkey1 | December 15, 2011, 9:27 pm 9:27 pm

I don’t think a lot of you read the whole article yes she has rights because she owns it, but she is clearly racist, do some of you really think that was the way to go about it. Then she says her white rights come on people she is totally in the wrong.

Posted by: tammy | December 15, 2011, 10:03 pm 10:03 pm

Why are they called Black and Why are they called White?? Yet every other origin is called by it’s
proper race?? Does not make sense!
And in this day and age, we no longer have private property? It seems that nothing is truly yours any longer. No trespassing doesn’t work either!

Posted by: Alisa | December 15, 2011, 10:07 pm 10:07 pm

WAIT A MINUTE WHAT HAPPENED TO WHITE PEOPLES RIGHTS

Posted by: SHERL | December 15, 2011, 11:28 pm 11:28 pm

I own a sign identical to that and I love it.

Posted by: Jeremy | December 15, 2011, 11:30 pm 11:30 pm

Alisa: “Why are they called Black and Why are they called White?? Yet every other origin is called by it’s proper race?? Does not make sense!” – - – There is no such than as race, proper or otherwise. The concept of race is an artificial social construct. The DNA of human is 99.9% the same. Humans have less genetic diversity than any other primate species and so we are unique that way. Our closest cousin the chimpanzee has 20 times more genetic diverstiy than we have, with only about 97.9% the same. There is more genetic diversity between men and women than there is between the so-called “races.” There is more genetic diversity within the so-called “races” than there is between them. ALL human beings are the same species/race.

Posted by: B-K KnightRider | December 16, 2011, 1:17 am 1:17 am

this womans is obviously is a closet racist. closet racists are still racists, but think just because they don’t go around stringing up blacks, they’re not racists..smh i hope she gets thrown in jail with a lot of blacks and they all know her charge! white rights indeed.

Posted by: pbt | December 16, 2011, 1:22 am 1:22 am

CHERYL: “NO she is NOT being racist.” – - – ROFL. Yeah, right, she is not racist. Keep on dreaming in that fantasy land. Of course she is racist. Whether or not it is legal is irrelevant to the reality that she is racist.

Posted by: B-K KnightRider | December 16, 2011, 1:23 am 1:23 am

DAVID: “Wow, so much anti-white hate and racism in these comments.” – - – Is anyone really so delusional and clueless to not be able to understand the difference between anti-racism hate and anti-white hate? Or not understand the difference between anti-racism and racism? How an any clear thinking person with half a brain not understan those differences?

Posted by: B-K KnightRider | December 16, 2011, 1:31 am 1:31 am

Private pool on private property. Private sign. She can display any sign she wants. This is America. Everyone has these rights and they are protected. The only crime here is that someone trespassed onto private property and stole her sign.

Posted by: mobredthree | December 16, 2011, 1:48 am 1:48 am

This story has a number of different items to itt and the information seems to be leaking out. 1. the landlord banned the child because chemicals in her hair made the pool “cloudy” She knows for a fact that it was this one girl that caused the reaction and it was “chemicals”her hair”. Why her hair and not some other part of other part of her body… maybe sunscreen. The FATHER is the tennant and he would need permission to use the pool and also permission for his daughter use the pool. Would he need to wake her up at 3:00AM to get permission if a “friend” wanted to swim in the pool. If she has a sign that says “public pool” I hope it’s in a walled off area of the property. If I saw a roadside sign that said public pool how would I know it is private? I don’t carry property maps with me.

Posted by: D Mayeda | December 16, 2011, 2:09 am 2:09 am

at first i didnt take it as a racist act and im black because its an antique, and there is a black person living on the property but she killed it at the end by what she said, she didnt have to say that at all. i dont think it went as far as it being a hate crime thats redicolous, but everybody should know there is still racism going on in the world and whether you are black or white you shouldnt be acting ignorant like putting up racist signs whether its an antique or not. and i truly dont think it had nothing to do with public or private property, it was just that a wrong sign was hung up and the wrong person just so happened to see it and made a big deal out of it. the sign is gone now so it shouldnt be a big deal anymore, wake up people racism is still alive you shouldnt be shocked to see something or read something like that

Posted by: crystal | December 16, 2011, 3:15 am 3:15 am

Exactly what are White rights? This is a serious question. Can someone give me an example of what a White right is? This lady claims such a thing exist. So I would like to know what she thinks her White rights are.

Posted by: Sam | December 16, 2011, 4:02 am 4:02 am

Although the property is hers the house is a duplex and she rented out the upper floor. Once you rent part of your property the tenant also has rights. They have a right to invite their family members and friends to visit. As far as the pool is concerned the tenant was invited to the pool party and the landlord knew the daughter was visiting that weekend. The landlord singled out the girl, who was the only black person, for making the pool cloudy and the reporter who wrote this story knows this and has not published the tenants side of the story. I say shame on the reporter for not reporting everything.

Posted by: m | December 16, 2011, 6:26 am 6:26 am

Avowed racist in america have always used words /language or hanging signs to attack or denigrate people of color. Then self righteously wrap the offensive racist comment under the cloak of the first amendment to deflect criticism.. This is a very typical attitude with racist. To illustrate my point, I could claim that I have a lot of white friends, I’d take one home somtime, but I already have a dog.. I hope you understand the type of bitterness statements like these make.

Posted by: LaRhue | December 16, 2011, 7:19 am 7:19 am

Minorkey1-I have to agree with you about Susan’s post. I’m guessing it was a test and she totally failed it. Same with the poster who claimed it happened at an interview for a law firm.

Posted by: mary | December 16, 2011, 8:45 am 8:45 am

I, too, was on her side until the end of the article. “White Rights”? You mean civil rights? Bigot.

Posted by: Jodi | December 16, 2011, 10:02 am 10:02 am

Meanwhile,back on planet Earth:

Africa for the Africans,Asia for the Asians,white countries for EVERYBODY!

Mass immigration and “assimilation” forced on all white countries and ONLY white countries.

Genocide is genocide,it makes no difference legally whether it is accomplished by bullets and mustard gas,or mass immigration and social engineering.

Anti-racist is a codeword for anti-white.

Posted by: FredPadget | December 16, 2011, 12:33 pm 12:33 pm

Someone asked if blacks would be this outraged if someone had posted a sign that read, ‘Coloreds Only’….the answer to that is YES! The use of the word colored to define people of color, is as ignorant and racist as the sign the lady hung on her property.

Posted by: NicoleG. | December 16, 2011, 12:37 pm 12:37 pm

You have EVERY right to support this hate-filled yokel… but it makes you look like a bigot and an idiot.

Posted by: cc | December 16, 2011, 1:19 pm 1:19 pm

This will be the 2nd time in 2 weeks that I have made the following statement. Isn’t it nice to know that “Jim Crow” is alive and doing well?………..NOT!

Posted by: Sue | December 16, 2011, 2:03 pm 2:03 pm

It’s common to leave antiques outside, exposed to the elements, right? There’s no reason to be suspicious of someone who just decided to leave an 80 year old sign outside, attached to her fence, right?

Posted by: ZP Moore | December 16, 2011, 4:00 pm 4:00 pm

This woman is a straight up racist. Period.
The posters who are still relating made-up anecdotes about affirmative action are, as usual, out to lunch. If you’re going to troll the internet regarding “racial quotas” you should at least educate your self about how affirmative action actually works.

Posted by: Paul Hobbs | December 16, 2011, 4:07 pm 4:07 pm

Where are all these people who SERIOUSLY was giving this woman the benefit of a doubt until she talked about her “white rights” living? THIS is why racism in America will never, ever end. There are SO many clues pointing out her racism before you even get to that point, and if you do not pick up on them, you are either being purposefully obtuse/dense (i.e. don’t want to ever say that a white person has said or done racist things until you have them on camera de-robing at a KKK rally and anything up until that point is given the “benefit of a doubt”) or you honestly have no real awareness and understanding of what racism is and thus can’t identify it unless it kicks you in the face. Keeping a “whites only sign” and displaying it cause it’s an ANTIQUE? Are there REALLY people out there who seriously buy that excuse? Jesus.

Posted by: Courtney | December 16, 2011, 4:16 pm 4:16 pm

Clearly — you two will never get along and blacks aren’t going to get over their resentment of whites in America while they are still living in the system. The only logical conclusion is separation. If the government, civil right organizations and black organizations would allow this – it would happen automatically. Blacks say whites hold them down and stand in their way at every given turn but their leaders fight to remain close to whites and fight to remain under their heel — Instead of doing the logical thing and avoiding them at all costs. Instead of fighting to get in the bed with whitey why not fight for separation. Black only neighborhoods, towns and cities, schools and once that has been in place for a couple of decades there will emerge a stronger black people which can then support themselves with black only businesses. You know very well that if you sought and fought for this you would get it. I suspect the tax payers of the US would gladly even sponsor it – it would certainly be cheaper than all the social aid that is required to keep up the majority of you now – that seems to be nothing but in a dead end repeating cycle of reliance on the system. What are you afraid of? Why haven’t you already done this? Is it not insanity to continue down this same path? You have to disengage from that system and start your own – for yourselves. And unless you want to go back to Africa (which would also a be an option that you could get funding for if you wanted it – but that would be your choice) then this is the logical choice in America. Perhaps you should begin to look at those in your communities and organizations that are constantly trying to keep you in bed with whitey and within the system , rather than away from whitey and out of the system. There have been past black organizations who believed in an idea similar to what I’m saying here. Do you remember? You need to ask yourselves if you are wanting revenge or freedom? And you need to get rid of the non-blacks that come in under the guise of supporting you, but are indeed only subversives or only interested in their own agendas and are simply using you as a tool in said agendas. White liberals and ‘communists’ are numero uno. Where did MLK get you? Why was he so accepted and supported by the system (and yes he was and is)? Why is it his message that is foisted upon you and not, say, Marcus Garvey? Because Garvey’s is of true freedom. King’s is of a continued reliance on white societies and the system that was packaged in the form of a bat wrapped in velvet and knocked upside your collective heads.

Have a good day.

Posted by: red | December 16, 2011, 4:32 pm 4:32 pm

It is ironic, people throwing out the word ignorant while seemingly not knowing what the word means. How exactly does it indicate lack of knowledge to not want black people swimming in your private pool? People use the word ignorant when they mean to say politically incorrect. Now that is truly ignorant.

Posted by: Starr | December 16, 2011, 4:58 pm 4:58 pm

um the sign also says PUBLIC pool? but you have to ask to go in it? it’s a public pool for white people that is actually a private pool for anyone? this woman is an idiot.

Posted by: danefisher | December 16, 2011, 5:12 pm 5:12 pm

I’m sorry Courtney, What planet are you from???? Wow. You cant understand that all races,just want an even playing field in the world. But segregation is your answer? Do you only associate with white people? You definitely come across as a racist.

Posted by: John | December 16, 2011, 5:29 pm 5:29 pm

David at 6:38 p.m. posts: Wow, so much anti-white hate and racism in these comments.
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I guess we see what we want to see. I don’t see much anti-white hate and racism in these comments at all. What I do see is a lot of hate directed against racists, which usually means whites. But if you think those are the same thing, be my guest. That tells me where you’re coming from.

Posted by: delatopia | December 16, 2011, 6:56 pm 6:56 pm

The racists who are trying to defend this woman are out in full force here. You don’t fool us. Anyone who would defend this woman has to be at least a little bit racist. Just sayin’…

Posted by: Mauigrrl | December 16, 2011, 7:37 pm 7:37 pm

>>since it is her own private property then i have to say ‘to each his/her own…’

Comments like this one and all the similar ones demonstrate how deep ignorance runs in this country, in addition to racism. Even a summary reading of the Fair Housing Act shows that she can’t discriminate in that way. It’s either hers and nobody gets to use it, or it’s for the tenants (which it apparently was until a black person showed up) and everyone gets to use it.

The cutbacks in education have clearly caused a new generation of ignorants, judging by the comments here.

Posted by: Spike | December 16, 2011, 7:59 pm 7:59 pm

i see a some posts that have taken this to down the affirmative action route and to those i would like to reply with a few questions . How many wealthy american families still have wealth that was accumulated and passed down from generation to generation (and was grown through investments ) that originated with forced slave labor ? do some googling of it yourself and you’ll be surprised and what your research shows you . Generations ago black people where forced to come here against their own will and to generate wealth for whites . then they where set free and told , okay you’re free but we already own this country,so if you want to get any of that american dream you’re going to once again have to work for us on our terms . pretty twisted if you ask me . Slavery has never ended . The legal fiat and terms have just been altered to hide it much better than in the past and affirmative action is just one small simple attempt (and small and weak is what it is when you compare it to the historical institutions it is up against )to reverse that .

Posted by: leo | December 17, 2011, 1:15 am 1:15 am

No one has mentioned the landlord’s lawyer! What kind of idiot lawyer would allow his/her client to say something like that? As for the landlord and the father not being related,…why does the little girl’s aunt keep telling the father that “family doesn’t sue family” ?

Posted by: Marie | December 17, 2011, 3:33 am 3:33 am

Just wanted to point out that all the people on here heckling AA about sensitive and seeing racism in everything, and that the woman had here right, etc. that it was the WHITE father of the biracial AA then 10yo that filed the complaint (N.B. I will assume that wife mentioned is also white). The girl was/is 10, what did she really understand about the situation? IMO the woman is racist, if I am honest. 1 little girl’s hair caused a pool to get cloudy. What, she’d put the relaxant in her hair and decided to rinse it in the pool? That pool must have been the size of a wash bucket. Racism is racism.

Also, for those of you with spittle flying raging about ‘white’ rights being infringed and AAs always calling for their rights to be invoked did you ever hear “give me my black rights!”??? Because what I’ve heard was/is “give my rights as an equal citizen of this country!”. Which is their right. Many people on here have said they were discriminated against in job interviews because the company had to fill minority quotas, or talked about businesses that will only exclusively hire blacks (with a white quota, lol), which is unfortunate an this is where I have to talk about, again unfortunately, ‘white’ privilege and ‘American-born’ privilege. To everyone of you that is not hired or working below your qualification(s) there are at least three minorities, or freshly-minted-citizens in the same position [N.B. Not statistical, so don't quote me].

Lastly, those yelling “it’s her property she can do whatever she wants!”, sorry you’re wrong. If use of facilities was not stipulated in the lease/contract of the rental of part of the property or even verbally at the beginning of the agreement, then for all intensive purposes the renters and their guest(s) had access to said facilities. To worsen the case against her, if the renter(s) had guest(s) of different ethnicity (will not assume) prior to the incident without reprimand, then she is indeed invoking a very uncivil civil right, a.k.a. RACISM and in that regard breaking the law and should be punished accordingly.

Posted by: Rose-tinted Glasses | December 17, 2011, 6:00 pm 6:00 pm

I think ALL of you are ignorant, No one owns “their” house, don’t pay your “taxes” and see what happens. I call it rent to your govt and elected officials. THEREFORE, yes the state of Ohio has every right to fine and/or imprison her. Second, since she is white, the State will make an example of her since it made headlines (the State definitely doesn’t want to look weak), YET it’s not offensive to anyone to fly the Rebel Flag. The govt is more racist than this woman. For example: the flooding of New Orleans, LA. Majority of the population was black, where was help then and now? complete neighborhoods confiscated by the govt…… RIGHTS????? your all sadly mistaken about your RIGHTS!!!

Posted by: Big Bob | December 17, 2011, 7:09 pm 7:09 pm

This goes to show what type of people live in Cincinnati. What I mean by that is according to a professor in Maryland, Cincinnati is in southwest Ohio near southern states such as Kentucky and West Virginia which most individuals in those states still feature those beliefs do to lack of education and other issues.

Posted by: Lexi | December 18, 2011, 4:28 pm 4:28 pm

When Hein was first informed that a complaint was being filed against her, she denied owning the sign. Then she was shown the photos taken by the father and other friends of the family, and Hein changed her story to the sigh was ‘stolen”. This idiot landlord has lied from the very beginning, the more she opens her mouth the further she sticks her butt into it.

Posted by: Marie | December 19, 2011, 12:19 am 12:19 am

This is absolutely racist!!!!!! This is just wrong. I am as “white” as can be but to say that this girl can not go into the pool because of the chemicals she uses in her hair is absurd. She was looking for an excuse and this is not it. There are “white” women who use the same chemicals in their hair as “black” women. Would she exclude them if they wanted to use the pool. I don’t think so. She can post a sign that says swimming with permission only but “white only” NOT!!!!! This is reminiscent of the Fifties and I thought we got past that a long time ago.

Posted by: cindy | December 19, 2011, 2:03 pm 2:03 pm

Racism is not illegal. It’s done by everyone, regardless of race. We all have preconceived notions of other races, no matter how small, no matter how much diversity we’ve had in our lives. Posting a sign like this isn’t racism, per se, either – I am fascinated by some of those old signs, especially living in today’s overly PC age. The horrible stories and the way of life blacks faced back then is carried in that memorabilia, and so I think they’re valuable, and serve as a reminder to all people that always bowing to the whim of the majority can have horrible consequences. They’re worth looking at and thinking about and showing to our children.

As a landlord, there are things this lady did that bordered on acts that might actually make her racist beliefs illegal. I wouldn’t have hung this sign even on my private property if there was any chance it could be misconstrued by tenants, but I’m a lawyer and I’m very aware of liabilities. I completely agree that private property is private property, do what you will on your own property. But as a business person, it’s not really smart to do things that invite lawsuits, because they’re expense to defend, even if you’re completely in the right.

I mostly feel sorry for the father and this little black girl. I would have chosen to take the opportunity to explain the history involved with signs like that from 80 years ago. I know it’s a big topic, but kids need to learn about people and tolerance, and that some people don’t have any tolerance at all. I probably would have also taken a moment to explain that even though some person might post a sign like this, you are a person with the same rights as anyone else, and posting a sign doesn’t mean you have to obey it. It would be a great lesson to learn for a curious child. I hope this story opens up dialogs for others to discuss these things.

Posted by: Melissa | December 22, 2011, 4:31 pm 4:31 pm

there have always been quotas. mostly for white men. they get more than their share (determined by their percentage of the population) of jobs. Look at TV news personalities, airline pilots, high ranking government officials (look at those running for the republican party for president), politicians in general, acceptance & attendance at military academies, medical schools, and law schools. Then after civil rights and anti-discrimination laws were passed in the 1960′s when it was more difficult to justify (because prior to that the establishment did not require any justification for their racist actions) white women were declared a legitimate “minority” and now they are dominating in several categories of employment; leaving the vast majority of non-white Americans out of the picture. A person has a right to be a racist. What they do not have a right to do is force it on society. If the woman wanted folk to know that was a private pool; and that no one was permitted to swim in her pool without her permission, she should have posted a sign that said just that or painted over the ‘whites only’ part of the sign at at the least, cover it up better yet, put it up on her own pool at her house where she resides. No excusing the truth of the facts and no excuse of her response. I agree the last comment said it all.

Posted by: kt mouzon | January 12, 2012, 9:56 am 9:56 am

Cincinnati is still one of the most racist cities in the US.

Posted by: scampez | January 12, 2012, 12:10 pm 12:10 pm

The fastest way to totally screw up a nice place in have ni99ers invade the place. Bring back the lash and the noose!

Posted by: P_Pace | January 13, 2012, 5:31 am 5:31 am

I am truly shocked to see so many people defend this woman. I am also shocked, and saddened, to see that Ms. Hein is only 31 years old. I thought this sort of ignorance and hatred was dying out, but I can see there is still a LONG way to go.

For all of you “white rights” supremacists out there, I would remind you that the days of a white majority are numbered. That’s a simple fact of demographics. For your grandchildren’s sake, I would recommend embracing tolerance, fairness, and just plain human decency now.

Posted by: Not Sleeping | January 16, 2012, 1:48 pm 1:48 pm

@mobredthree …. actually her actions are not covered by the Constitution as she is not a private citizen in this situation; she is a business woman posting a racist sign on a pool that is open to her tenants. Regardless of who has to “ask before they use her pool” she allows her tenants to use the pool and therefore it is joined to her business as a landlord.

Posted by: Annie M | January 24, 2012, 4:03 pm 4:03 pm

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