Skinny Jeans: Too Suggestive for Mormon College?

If you’re dumb enough to swallow Mormonism, college isn’t going to help you much.

If you think the Lord is speaking to you and you can hear his style tips in your head you need to be on Lithium.

I am a current student at BYU-Idaho and skinny jeans ARE allowed. Just one employee in the testing center decided to implement his own rule to not allow people wearing skinny jeans to take a test in the testing center. The matter has been dealt with and skinny jeans are allowed. The school administration and honor code as never spoken out against skinny jeans.

Pretty clear cut, No form-fitting clothing. Apparently the students agree to this before they go to school. Also they say you can even be gay and go there, except you can’t be “actively doing gay things” and gotta be living in accords with their moral principles. If you agree to it then do what you agreed to. If you don’t like it, there’s plenty of party schools out there.

I see some religious bigotry is on parade from some commenters. Dressing modestly is opposed by most women in our society, then they whine about men treating them like sex objects.

If you don’t like the rules, go somewhere else. No one is making students attend BYU-I. If it’s too conservative or strict, there are hundreds of other schools to attend. The students signed the Honor Code before every stepping foot on campus, they knew the rules. If you don’t follow them, there are consequences, that’s just life.

And I thought Catholic school was bad!!!!!!

I wonder how the ” I’m a Mormon ” billboards will be adapted to address this matter?

What if you are more on the heavy side and the jean is just a bit too snug? Are they going to double check your jean label to see if it is “skinny” or “regular”?

“If you don’t understand the Dress and Grooming standards, we invite you to go to the Lord ‘and ask in faith, nothing wavering’ for approval of the clothing you wear. The Spirit will tell you whether what you are wearing is appropriate or not.”

And if God tells me to wear a fig leaf to school that’s ok?

“We don’t have a policy against skinny jeans. One department on campus took our honor code and they interpreted it in their own way,” he said. Isn’t that the Mormon church in a sentence? You sect interpenetrated that having multiple wives was “against God” and left the traditionalist Mormon chruch doctrine. Or when African Americans were prohibited from joining, and then someone in a different department said it was ok. I guess its who has the power and enough followers who can truly interpenetrate the word of god. Flip-flops are in the history of he church, why should they be prohibited from being worn.

I’m a student at BYU-I and I have worn skinny jeans multiple times to the testing center and I’ve never gotten denied. Like they said it was one person who decided to make that rule up and it’s been taken care of. Not to mention we do agree to abide by the honor code while at school which means dressing modestly. As an 18 year old LDS girl, I really do find it more comfortable dressing modestly. There are girls who don’t dress modestly here, so it’s not like “American Taliban” because otherwise those girls would get killed. The worst that can happen if you aren’t following the dress code is you have to go home and change to take a test, or your teacher will make a comment and you will have to go change..which I have never seen happen so I’m pretty sure those are rare occasions. The “honor code” actually helps us mature and I do feel like an adult because it’s taking responsibility for something that you have committed to living. I’m glad we have the dress code we do because it’s really distracting when girls are letting everything hang out. Obviously no one is perfect, people are going to make mistakes and this one seems to have been taken care of by the school administration so I’m not sure why there’s even an article about it.

Wow! just wow! ABC you really have done it this time. Quote from the BYU-Idaho Facebook Page “Wondering if skinny jeans are allowed on campus? They are. BYU-Idaho’s longstanding dress & grooming standards promote principles of modesty and restrict formfitting clothing, but skinny jeans are not singled out or prohibited. In addition, the Testing Center issue reported in Scroll has been corrected and is no longer in force.” This story should not even be a national story! Skinny Jeans have NOT been banned at BYU-Idaho! The writing of this article is trying to create a issue where there is no issue.

First off, i think its stupid to deny students the option of just being who they are and who they want to be. I think its even worse when U use “The spirit” to enforce Ur own believes and standards on people. I hate the fact that no one complains and when a few speak out they are either kicked out or told to go somewhere else. I was there and i can tell U majority of students at BYU are only pretending, to fit into whats expected of them. I was at BYU and i know how the “honor code” is used to intimidate students into things they do not agree with but just have to live with. Its a fact that the drink called “Naked Juice” was removed from the cafeteria’s shelves because one dumb student said he wasnt comfortable with that. That juice was withdrawn and many students who love it couldnt get it anymore.
Under the so called honor code, students are forced to shave everyday for classes and are denied access to the testing center and that “is what the spirit of Ricks” requires but we dont have to shave to enter the Temple. which is more important? How does Flip flops remove the “Spirit of Ricks” from campus? We all know flip flops are worn in BYU Hawaii and Provo. So whats so wrong about it in BYU Idaho? There are just too many dumb rules at BYU. Theres a lot of hipocrisy there and i have an immense amount of proof. The whole idea is absolute rubbish.

I don’t like dress codes, I don’t like religion and I am getting (although I didn’t used to be this way) to a point where I don’t like Mormons, or at least the things they do and believe in.

But I will reiterate what has been said here, it is a private school and they are not making everybody do this, just the students. It is up to the student whether or not they want to go there. Not really worthy of a big article.

If you go to a private high school you have a dress code you have to keep to, why don’t we talk about that?

This article is an embarassment to journalism. the obvious lack of proper research, implied derogatory attitude toward a religion, and blatant grasp at making an issue out of nothing are quite frankly disgusting. If this is what the media thinks is of importance to the American people, then they need serious help. the fact that this pathetic excuse for an article made it on the national news shows their pathetic condition, since I very much doubt this story went farther than the university Newspaper mentioned, until ABS took it. Please ABC, report stories that matter or get out the business.

i am a byui student. this article has some misinformation. there are dress and grooming policies for the testing center yes. a single employee misinterpreted them…

the school just came out and said the employee misinterpreted the dress guidelines and wasnt acting under the administrations directions… skinny jeans have never been ‘banned’ here at byui. abcnews is quoting our lame school paper the scroll for crying out loud. high-level journalism right there.

come on people, you dont like our doctrine, whatever, nobody here cares. stop looking for excuses to hate on mormons.

It’s nice to see a school with some standards.

What’s ridiculous is that this made it to ABC news… who really gives a crap what happens at a private college? people sign a contract to get in, they know the rules, if you don’t go there or to an affiliated college, why do you care?

I have to say I got a grin out of this article.

I remember very well back in the 1970′s, when Gloria Swanson jeans and Calvin Klein jeans were so tightly tailored that the best way to put them on was to lie down flat on your back and pull them on while holding your breath hard! And now I see kids walking around in “skinny jeans.” They aren’t “designer” jeans, but the cut is much the same.

Man, those jeans were uncomfortable. I have to believe that the “skinny jeans” I see young people wearing are probably much the same.

All I can say is, once I discovered “relaxed fit” jeans and how comfortable those were, I never went back to designer jeans. I venture to guess that if the wearers of “skinny jeans” would try relaxed fit jeans, they’d never go back to skinny jeans either.

First of all, I’m ok with skinny jeans being banned. No one should EVER wear them. They look awful. Seriously, unless your 6′ and 100 lbs–better known as severely malnourished–you’re gonna look ridiculous in your beloved skinny jeans.

On a more serous note, it sounds a lot like an entire institution being blamed for one vigilante. I think that maybe abc should have done their homework before publishing such a uselessly inflammatory article. Is it possible that this whole thing was blown way out of proportion?

I just have to say I have nothing against the standards/rules set forth at BYU-I, in fact I am very much for them because overall they have benefited the campus greatly over the years however when it comes to the dress code to take a test in the testing center that is where I draw the line. It is ridiculous to push away a student trying to take a test because of the personal choice of an outfit. What do they think is going to happen….someone going to cheat because their pants were too tight? It makes no sense and it is humiliating to those who can’t control how tight their jeans are on them. Not only that but I don’t think the students in the center are really concerned about what everyone else is wearing. Most students go to the testing center to take their exams not get criticized by what they are wearing. Also I don’t appreciate the bad example this is setting for the campus because I know for a fact that the campus officials did not authorize this kind of humility, it was those working for the testing center who believed they should get their opinion concerning skinny jeans across to the students. Other than the ridiculous dress code on the BYU-I campus, I totally support everything else about the school and the church. And I say this based on experience, being a member myself and currently attending BYU-I.

I am a student at BYUI and love the dress code. It makes people feel better about themselves and sets an atmosphere of dedication and learning. This is not a party school or place for college kids to “hook up” its a place of learning and education that is trying to help people master a set of skills to be able to acquire meaningful employment in a professional setting. Skinny jeans are meant to be form fitting and aren’t suitable for professional settings. If you are a student here you know what the honor code is and you agreed to it before you stepped in the classroom. If you don’t care for it go to a public institution where anything goes and the educational experience is sub-par. Everyone is free to go to another school. No-one is forcing them to go to BYUI. iIaho State is right down the road.

So, this is the “hard news” that ABC is coming up with now days? I’m really disappointed.

What’s the difference between a dress code based on modesty and a dress code based on uniforms or something? Like many others said it’s a private university, so I don’t really understand how it became so blown out of proportion…

That said its a little amusing. Oh well.

ABC you have done a terrible job researching this subject, what a pitiful example of your so called “journalism” thanks for bringing us the “truth”. This has taught me that when I read your future articles rest can be assured that they are just as poorly written and researched.

The fact is that BYU-I and the LDS Church do have strict standards on dress, but we also have a strong belief in agency and allowing people to determine for themselves what they feel is right (that’s where prayer comes into it). That doesn’t mean you can or should do whatever you want, and sometimes people get too lax and go over the line. skinny jeans aren’t inherently bad but you need to realize when they are too tight and inappropriate. I don’t know what this girl was wearing but it obviously made someone else feel uncomfortable, and maybe instead of being upset about it she could use it as a gauge for how she is dressing. maybe the guy was way out of line too, who knows. the fact that this thing made national news is just rediculous.
also whoever compared flip flops to the style of shoe worn in Christ’s time, please give me a break. Can you really see Christ wearing flip plops? just because the best thing some christian film maker could find to dress their actors in was an old pair of flip flops does not mean that is what he actually wore.

Must have been a slow news day at ABC… Note to self: never waste time reading an ABC news article again…

I had the pleasure of attending BYU-Idaho a few years ago. My experience as a student on that campus has helped me become a more productive employee in my career and have desire to progress into more education. The dress and grooming standards were something that I knew would keep me safe if obeyed. Obedience is a gift of agency. Agency is a gift God has given us to make decisions on our own, but we must understand that those choices direct our future and do have consequences. In our day and age I see youth all over the world being tempted by the subtle craftiness of man. These deceiving temptations make young people all over believe that conforming to human nature will not make a difference and will not impact them in the long run. This is incorrect. I am not saying that skinny jeans specifically are inappropriate, I am saying that clothing and how it is worn can result in some severe consequences. Attraction is something you cannot control in someone else, by simply wearing tight or revealing apparel that person could attract the wrong kind of person and inflict pain upon them. Something so simple, but so important.
I am a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints and fully believe that modesty is a key principle to happiness. That one principle has brought so much joy in my life for me and my wife. Modesty kept us safe in our dating, which allowed us to learn more about one another. I know the Gospel of Jesus Christ offers joy and happiness for any who will follow it. I know it is true and right.

To imply that a person cannot feel the spirit simply because they might be wearing pants that are “tight enough to show the shape of the leg” is totally ridiculous! I am all about modesty, and I have raised my children with the guidance of the ‘Strength of Youth’ pamphlet, but I think some people are just power hungry and looking for ways they can try to look superior and down on others. They probably wouldn’t allow visitors to wear pants at church either! How do they think the Savior would feel about his children being so ostracized? I feel confident that the answer would not be good.

What this article does not say is what the rest of the original sign said. And I quote,”If you have an argumentative attitude about the dress code, you are not being a disciple and you need to go home and pray to the lord and ask how to be a better disciple.”

Source: Post Register in Idaho Falls, ID, B1, front page.

Sincerely,
Not a religious normal person stuck in Eastern Idaho.

Wow, this article is full of misinformation. You CAN WEAR SHORTS AND FLIP FLOPS at BYU. I have friends who attend. If you don’t believe me, just google BYU campus and look at the pictures of the students on campus. I’m seeing a lot of shorts and flip flops and hey, skinny jeans! Just because one pious idiot posts a sign at the testing center and is then repremanded for it by the college, is this really newsworthy? Give me a break.

The idea behind every dress standard at BYU and in the lds church is to discourage people from anything that would become irresistible to the untamed man. Lets face it people, jeans are jeans until someone can’t keep their hands off a young lady in nice jeans. you know why girls gone wild is so popular and so dangerous. Its not about controlling the populations choices, its about keeping the traditional college choices from being a experience that ruins lives. If you want a college with girls wearing everything to get you looking, just enroll somewhere that’ll let you look what girls will show you.

Before everyone goes and reads all these comments, here is a comment I will leave with you as a student at BYU-Idaho. If you want to read other arguments on this topic from those who have never even researched this campus or set foot on it, that’s fine. At least I can tell you from a BYU-Idaho student’s perspective.

Before applying to go to BYU-Idaho, I was introduced to the honor code. This is a code of conduct that is in force here at school and all students must sign to abide by the honor code if they wish to attend. Every year, the student must abide by this code and resign the waiver. If you would like further details on what this code of conduct entails, please feel free to go to byui.edu and research it for yourself.

As far as the skinny jean incident goes, an employee in the testing center made a mistake in not admitting students to take a test if they were wearing skinny jeans. Don’t we all make mistakes? If you have never made a mistake, and some of you will lie and say you haven’t, then I will be surprised. I think there are more things in the world to be worried about then dwelling on the fact that a mistake was made. What we can do now is move forward and worry about more important topics.

I would also like to mention that although I appreciate all of your opinions on the matter, I do not appreciate those who bash my religion and/or call it a cult. You are entitled to your opinion but I will just say that by bringing negative comments about any religion, you are really hurting feelings. You don’t know me personally and I wonder how many of you who do pose negative comments about the Latter Day Saint religion have actually been on lds.org or mormon.org and researched it themselves. If you have not, I invite you to have an open mind and research from reliable sources and not from something you may have heard or seen on the news or youtube. Thank you!

As a student that went to BYU-Idaho, I am very happy there was a dress code. I learned that the way I act is reflected in the way I dress. The dress code helps show students that school is a professional setting, and should be treated as such. Most students understand that the dress code is not there to restrict them, but to help them be professional. It’s interesting that ABC is reporting on this, because it’s parent company, Disney, has almost the same guidlines that BYU-I does. I have worked in both the BYU-I Testing Center, AND for the Walt Disney Company and was subject to almost EXACLTY the same dress standards. If you come to work for the DIsney Company not dressed according to their standards, you have to either change, or are sent home. Not much different from the BYU-Idaho standards. It’s silly that people are so upset about this. Just silly.

Skinny jeans are fine if you have the right kind of top. They need to worry about the layering of shirts. It does’t matter how many shirts you layer, if you can see every roll the girl has they all are too tight. It looks horrible!

Sounds like Lisa has it right on. Amen, Lisa!

SKINNY JEANS ARE NOT ATTRACTIVE ladies…sorry to tell you this…the skinny women they show off their scrawny legs…not pleasant for a lot of guys. And from what I have noticed…they don’t look comfortable either. Stop being a FV ( Fashion Victim). Just like the leggings…not a good look.

Bring back the jeans of the 90′s.

This looks like just another topic to again attack “The Mormons.” But the article clearly states that it was one mis-led individual. My son attends BYU and happened to accidentally drop 500.00 in cash somewhere on campus and would you believe that it was turned in to the lost and found. No where else in the world would this happen. The youth the attend BYU have high standards and integrity. They stand apart from the world! I am grateful for a school and the students who attend there!

This is just one more instance of liberal ABC attacking a conservative institution like BYU. Would Fox News ever publish such an article? Nope. There are many school with dress codes, and yet ABC singles out one that they perceive as ultra-conservative. This is a waste of our time and your resources. In the future, report news, not your political agenda.

This was not “BYU”. This was one of the other schools with a BYU label. Don’t tar and feather “BYU”.

If you’re not LDS, dont comment! You dont understand our standards! Im an adult girl but I ynderstand this, besides it’s just a misunderstanding its still allowed to use skinny jeans and if not then wear chachimomma pants! :D

GOOD GREIF! this has been BLOWN way out of porportion! One person went to the testing center and One person mistakenly told that one person they could not wear them. THis has never been a policy at BYUI. There was not a bunch of people turned away! Please get your facts straight before you publish lies!!!

How dare a religion have an affect on our grooming standards! We should be able to do whatever we want whenever we want. Oh wait, maybe rules and regulations are good for us so we are not subject to every new style hollywood throws at us and every wind of doctrine in the news? Alright rules are good for me. So glad I cleared that up.

thank god I;m not Mormon too many rules the colleges in California even the religious ones do ynot tell people what they can and cannot wear