Contraception Compromise Doesn’t Please Bishops

These bishops should just get out of women’s business and concentrate on themselves and their priest who have sexually abused so many of our children. What do they know of women, when they cannot even control their own sexuality other than abusing others? Just stay out of our business, these mostly old men, who practice not what they try to preach. Who gives them the right to control anyone else when they are unable to control themselves.

Its so ironic that if Catholics were held to the true teachings of the church the church would in fact have about 2% of the members they have currently. If 95-98% of Catholics use birth control, technically they aren’t following the Church and should be excommunicated. What actually needs to happen is they need to OK using birth control, focus on preventing unwanted pregnancies and dealing with the ongoing pedophilia and child abuse that happens in churches all over the world. Honestly, this whole “anti-woman” agenda is a major reason I saw fit at 13 to reject my families religion and refuse to be “confirmed”. UGH! So glad I have a brain and can think for myself. There are far too many sheep in this world!!!

Obama is right. The bishops are whiners. If the workers work well, they deserve a pay package. If that includes insurance, the bishops are overbearing if they gut it according to their own religious beliefs. The workers are adults, and free moral agents. No different than the cash portion of the pay package — the workers can do what they want with it, and it is not a matter of conscience for the bishops. Just give standard insurance, and let the workers decide!!

it’s all too clear now – these sexless guys just don’t want women to use contraception, period. and no, S Smith – contraception is NOT “abortion producing drugs.” but if you want to raise the children conceived, go right ahead.

These Catholic hospitals receive federal Medicare payments. You get money from the government, you play by the same rules as everybody else. It’s time we stopped giving “religious” instituions a pass and any kind of exemptions. The church needs to get off it’s high horse and get its own house in order and keep its nose out of our bedrooms and bathrooms. The Catholic church is no better than the mob and actually even worse. At least the mob doesn’t tolerate child molesters. And I was raised Catholic but realized a long time ago that I was being BS’d and sold a bill of goods.

If Planned Parenthood is happy, the bishops better not be. Planned Parenthood is a hundred million dollar baby killing organization.

the bishops had their 15 minutes with the microphone and Obama blinked…time to move on…with 98% of their flock using birth control I’d think they are going to quickly lose support that this is an attack on religious freedom and now more of the bishops trying to stick their noses in women’s private health care…

As far back as when I was in high school (waaay far back) the Catholic kids were using contraceptives or other body parts to avoid pregnancy. Now contraceptive use is the order of the day in many (most?) Catholic households. Not even “the faithful” listen to the bishops when they make no sense so don’t expect the rest of us to care.

I doubt if any of these high ranking clerics even know what a “woman’s business” looks like. Too bad that a group of fallow old bishops are trying to tell anyone what to do about reproduction.

Well, this did get the focus off the Super PAC flak so it served it’s purpose.

Maybe if the Bishops are offended by the laws governing all employers, then they should employ an all volunteer workforce. What’s next, will they want to be exempt from federal income tax withholding and matching social security and medicare payments?

News flash to Bishops: the majority of people you are supposed to be leading use birth control already. You as an employer are not entitled to shove your views on birth control down the throats of your employees. Where was all of this sanctimonious outrage when you were investigating all of the priests who were abusing children?

It seems to me that the Catholic church is practicing discrimination — gender and religious discrimination against its employees — many who may even be NON-Catholic!!! Anyway… I am glad that Obama didn’t back down much on this. The U.S. Government needs to ALWAYS stay secular!!! Unfortunately, there’s a political party (The Republicans) who want to turn the federal government into a theocracy by attempting to ban abortion, limiting gay rights, and teaching Creationism in Public Schools. This is just wrong and not what our country was founded on!!

OMG – I am soooooo over these Bishops.

These old MEN need to shut the **** up! Women’s health is a subject they should have ZERO input on. As a matter of religious freedom, how is this different from preventing devout Mormons from having multiple wives? Multiple wives was theologically supported in Mormon doctrine…until the US government decided that wasn’t to be allowed. Where were the Catholic bishops then to defend religious liberty. These old hacks are irrelevant — they need to shut up.

I can’t think of any person or group’s opinion that I would be LESS interested in regarding contraception and women’s reproductive freedom than CATHOLIC BISHOPS.

So many clueless and evil comments against the Catholic Bishops standing up for 1st Amendment rights. “CONGRESS shall make no law respecting an ESTABLISHMENT of religion, or PROHIBITING the FREE EXERCISE thereof”. Obama has implemented a dictator edict violating the constitutiional rights of the Catholic Church. He has established the religion of the state.To say that Obama’s contraception compromise is a compromise is FALLACY, the truth is it is a stealth imposition of contraception, abortion drugs and sterilization on the Catholic Church. The Catholic Church in some areas self insure and offer medical insurance. The Bishops have clearly stated objections also in the name of it’s affiliate insurers and on behalf of all insurers dealing with the Church. The Dictator in Chief has decreased our freedoms incrementally over time to the point that many sheeple are clueless about the rights taken away from them. It is a travesty that people no longer stand for what is good but are willing slaves to evil and the false promises that evil offers. If Obama truly seeks compromise then he could sign a conscience amendment law. If Obama gets away with insurance companies paying for contraception, abortion drugs and sterilization then there will not be a need for taxpayer funding of Planned Parenthood since double taxation will be an occur. The taxpayer will be paying for the cost of free contraception, abortion drugs and sterilization through increased insurance premiums. Obama wants to decrease the cost of Obamacare through dead babies..

The taxpayer will be paying for the cost of free contraception, abortion drugs and sterilization through
increased insurance premiums POSTED BY: JO |********** Maybe we should abolish the tax exempt
status of organized religions altogether. This in itself would pay the cost of this insurance ten fold.

The only compromise Obama offered was a compromise on all citizen’s Religious Liberties protected by the 1st Amendment of the Constitution

Great. The Catholics. The do as I say, not as I do religion.

Contraception saves lives, it saves unwanted babies, saves people from sexually transmitted diseases but noooo, catholic bishops who have no right to oppose contraception especially when their own abuse little boys and cover it up. Shame on them, they’ll meet our maker one day and will realize they were wrong all along.

…nothing a government does can please RC Bishops… that’s why the RC church has been in demise in the 20th century… i admire the RC church for holding fast to 12th century ideals, but come on… don’t dictate to us…

Let the bishops worry a little about the longstanding problem of pedophilia by priests, which they continue to overlook and shove under the carpet. Their worrying whether their women employees will use their insurance for birth control or not is beyond the pale. Do they also worry how their employees spend the cash portion of their pay packages? How hypocritical can you get. Throughout history, the Catholic church has never ceased to amaze for its hypocrisy and immorality. This compromise is fair. The bishops were given a yard, and they want not a mile, but the whole road. Let them whine and bemoan if they like, but reasonable people should pay them no heed. They have every religious freedom they could ask for. This is just a matter of whether their employees CAN have insurance, even when the bishops don’t pay for it. They are being outrageous to imagine they can object to that.

I was raised as a Catholic. Or perhaps lowered. :-) Whatever. But seriously… I strongly disagree with the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops statement, which denounces President Barack Obama’s attempts at compromise as “needless government intrusion in the internal governance of religious institutions”. On the contrary, the Bishops comments are themselves a needless religious intrusion upon the proper and legitimate functions of government…functions that serve to promote women’s rights, and equality, and fairness for ALL. No one is coming into our Churches and trying to tell parishioners what to believe. BUT If the Bishops want to start businesses that employ millions of people of varying faiths -or no “faith” at all- THEN they must play by the rules. Just because a religious group in America claims to believe something, we cannot excuse them from obeying the law in the PUBLIC arena, based on that belief. They can legally attempt to change the law, not to deny it outright. And if they want to plunge overtly into politics from the pulpit, then they should give up their tax-exempt status. Did I miss something, or when it comes to the “sanctity of life”, is every single righteous Catholic still a card carrying conscientious objector, refusing to take up arms, and totally against the death penalty, and contraception in all its forms? Oh well, hypocrisy is at the heart of politics, and politics masquerading as religion even more so. This country is an invigorating mixture of all the diversity that life has to offer, drawing its strength FROM that diversity. We need to work together to preserve, enrich, and strengthen this unique experiment – NOT to tear it down with poisonous, paralyzing, and un-Christian demonization of each other.

What if a religious employer decided it was in its religion to not hire any Black people or Asian people?. Now do you think the government would let THAT fly??? I don’t think so… so really why is this any different??? Also Catholic hospitals receive federal funds in the form of Medicare and Medicaid… so why should THEY mandate to the government what they will or will not do for their employees???

The Catholic church needs to stay out of politics. I don’t know of any other religion that gets so involved with our laws as the Catholic church does. What if, now we have to start following the Muslims, or the very conservative christian religions who keep their women in long hair and skirts. We have to keep seperation of church and state. I am Catholic and the church does good work with the Catholic charites for sure. But in this case they need to stay neutral. No one is forcing the Catholics to use birth control. This is for people who work in the schools and universities and want it covered. If the churcy is accepting federal funds for hospitals and schools then they should abide by everything or don’t take the money. It is cheaper to cover birth control than a pregnancy and childbirth or medical complications that come with it. We can’t start letting religions dictate what we can do in this country.

I don’t know why the Bishops continually think Catholics don’t use birth control.I don’t know anyone from my generation or the present who don’t or haven’t used some form of birth control. Havw the priests noticed the size of families in church today? 3 children at the most. How do they think that these mother avoid large families!! They should do their research. The Catholic schools and churches do not have the influence they once had. All the young kids are cohabitating before marriage, even those who attended Catholic school, divorced Catholics receive communion, etc.

The priests and bishops themselves are Cafeteria catholics. The church also teaches that sex before marriage is a sin and so is living together yet they continually marry the young couples who live together. Alot of times they don’t ask or the kids lie. And to ask them to stop living together until the marriage, how ridiculous is that!!! What does that accomplish? Nothing. It makes the priests feel they are not being hypocritical in marrying cohabiting couples in the church. They marry the couples in the church because they don’t want these couples to go elsewhere and thus lose more Catholics. . The bishops of NY decides that he will give us a “pass” from abstaining from meat on Friday if St Patrick’s day falls on a Friday. Really? Why? Because he knows people will eat the meat. What if I decide on a Friday I don’t want to abstain because I am going to a party? The Eastern rite priests can be married. And the church allows Episcopal ministers to convert to Catholisism even if they are married!! How is that fair to the priests who can’t be married!! Eastern Rite priests may be married also!!!

And ask about RCIA classes for those who want to become Catholic. Some priests allow divorced people who are remarried become Catholics and “hope” they apply for an annulment. Really? Do you think the church won’t give it to them? They don’t want them to leave the church after making the decision to become Catholic. I have been told they don’t even talk about the birth control issue in these classes.

If priests and bishops could get married the whole birth control issue would be a mute point. That is probably why they don’t allow it. Priests being married isn’t God’s law. They would understand how expensive it is to have a large family in todays economy and how expensive it is to send their kids to college. It makes me made so see the wealth the Pope lives in but to expect other Catholics to not covet material goods.