Analysis: Who Won the Republican Presidential Debate?

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The organizers of Wednesday night’s debate did their best to turn the eight person debate into one that was really about two people: Perry and Romney.
And, in that match-up, Romney came out the winner. He was confident and solid throughout the entirety of the debate, a benefit of being a two-time presidential candidate. He stuck to his strong points – economy and jobs – deftly sidestepped his weakness – healthcare – and took advantage of stumbles made by his main opponent Rick Perry.
Perry’s first outing on the GOP debate stage was decent, but inconsistent. He was like a boxer who comes out strong for the first two rounds, but then runs out of stamina by the later rounds.
His attacks on Romney’s record of job creation in Massachusetts during the first few minutes of the debate were sharp and crisp.
But, when it came to defending his own statements on Social Security and climate change later in the debate he floundered.
Two candidates who struggled in last month’s debate in Iowa – Jon Huntsman and Herman Cain – were more polished and poised in this one. Still, Huntsman’s message of moderation and his emphasis on electability is going to do little to improve his standing among the GOP base.
Michele Bachmann, the surprise “winner” of the first GOP debate in South Carolina earlier this year, was solid but lacked the sizzle of previous debates. Instead of attacking Perry – the guy who is the biggest threat to her candidacy – she stuck to her well-worn talking points.
This debate is the first of three over the next two weeks which means these eight candidates will have plenty of opportunities to improve – or falter.

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Don’t worry we know Perry won. Perry spoke to the American People and spoke in no uncertain terms, never backed down and spoke like a caring human. Romeny is great but Perry won!
Posted by: Georgetown | September 7, 2011, 10:56 pm 10:56 pm
Ron Paul is the only one I listen to.
Posted by: Deft | September 7, 2011, 11:17 pm 11:17 pm
Ron Paul won.
Posted by: Jafuby | September 7, 2011, 11:20 pm 11:20 pm
I think Romney, Paul, and Perry debated well. Santorum looks like a Joel Olsteen clone which kind of creeps me out. The only person who has the right ideas is Paul.
Posted by: Ben | September 7, 2011, 11:36 pm 11:36 pm
Ron Paul is the only real candidate, regardless of the MSM blackout and hypocrisy.
Posted by: Delta Orion | September 7, 2011, 11:37 pm 11:37 pm
As an independent voter, the only GOP candidate I’d vote for is Huntsman.
Posted by: Milo | September 7, 2011, 11:41 pm 11:41 pm
You can pretend like Ron Paul doesn’t exist all you want but he does – he was right up there on the stage – and he has a message that resonates with most people who hear it. You see, you’re not the only site on the internet; people can actually get information that is UNFILTERED by the likes of you and the other mainstream media outlets. So just stop fighting reality and try to be objective, fair and balanced for a change. We’re not all bovine idiots who gobble down whatever story you feed us. Provide some real news and maybe you’ll get more comments on ABC’s website than I get on my facebook status’.
Posted by: Aiden McHugh | September 7, 2011, 11:42 pm 11:42 pm
No question about it, Mitt Romney won the debate. He was the only candidate that answered the question of illegal immigration properly.
Posted by: john locke | September 7, 2011, 11:58 pm 11:58 pm
deftly sidestepped his weakness – healthcare –—–weakness?????? Let me tell you, as one who lives in Massachusetts, we have, BY FAR the BEST healthcare in this nation. We have OVER 98% of our citizens in a healthplan which means….NO HUGE ER WAITS!!! It’s HEAVEN!!! You go to the ER, you’ll see maybe one or two people, or,…nobody. Hospitals do not get stiffed with unpaid bills. We have the BEST hospitals and doctors, never a wait, they GET PAID by nearly every single patient! What a concept AND our unemployment is LOWER than Texas and our jobs, unlike Texan minimum wage jobs are HIGH PAYING. How is this a weakness????? Employers LOVE to have so many citizens on a plan, makes their payments in cheaper, we have LOWER unemployment than Texas! Excuse me, how is this even a contest! We have the best schools in the nation, Texas has the LOWEST WORST, no healthcare at all, and better jobs, and less unemployed. Look at the facts. Numbers dont lie.
Posted by: whoopstheydiditagain | September 8, 2011, 12:00 am 12:00 am
Romney is the man. he is the ONLY one who can beat Obama. Perry looks and sounds like a dumb@$$. If possible, he even sounds dumber than bush.
Posted by: whoopstheydiditagain | September 8, 2011, 12:03 am 12:03 am
His attacks on Romney’s record of job creation in Massachusetts—we have lower unemployment than Texas. So however many jobs were created doesn’t really matter if you have LESS unemployed. If we have 7% unemployment and you have 8% and you create a few more jobs, doens’t matter, does it? Because when you total them up, WE NEED LESS because our economy is strong enough that we didn’t lose as many jobs as you did. AND our jobs are HIGH PAYING jobs WITH healthcare. Yours are minimum wage and NO healthcare. No contest.
Posted by: whoopstheydiditagain | September 8, 2011, 12:06 am 12:06 am
Perry bombs!!! Even I didn’t think he would do that bad….. bumbling ..stuttering..confused ..social security ponzi scheme, don’t believe scientists (galileo was initially voted down as justification??), Romney zingers: W. Bush created more jobs in TX, Perry claiming to have created jobs is “like Al Gore claiming to have invented the internet”. Perry even praising Obama for some things?? Bad story and explanation on Texas education and health care.
Romney wins. Huntsman strong night….
Posted by: haggisbingo | September 8, 2011, 12:08 am 12:08 am
Bachmann was solid??? Are you talking about Randy Bachman or the woman from Shutter Island?
Posted by: schmoe | September 8, 2011, 12:11 am 12:11 am
Ron Paul by a mile.
Posted by: Robobobo | September 8, 2011, 12:12 am 12:12 am
The mainstream media outlets clearly want Romney to win the primary. The media is quite concerned that one of the pro-freedom, anti-establishment candidates might win. This article is only one of several recent examples which are not-too-subtly designed to sway the opinion of the reader toward Romney.
Posted by: AugustStrong | September 8, 2011, 12:14 am 12:14 am
This article is only one of several recent examples which are not-too-subtly designed to sway the opinion of the reader toward Romney.—oh for God’s sake, it just OBVIOUS! I know you wingnuts love our paranoid delusions, but it’s just plain OBVIOUS that Mr. Ponzy scheme, doesn’t believe in evolution and doesn’t believe in Climate change has NO CHANCE to win the presidency. How can you not know this??????? He is dumber than Bush. Romney is head and shoulders above all of them in his resume and what he has accomplished. He knows the tax code upside down and inside out along with law, finance, banking, I mean, maybe you in your little world doesn’t know this ,but the MAJORITY of people actually vote for BRAINS!!! Why do you think McCain lost???? So many said they would vote for him in polls, but when push came to shove, they did not ,and when asked in exit polls, they had one overwhelming reason…..Palin was too stupid. Saying Romney is the smartest, the most attractive to the moderates is just the TRUTH!!!!!!!
Posted by: whoopstheydiditagain | September 8, 2011, 12:19 am 12:19 am
Romney zingers: W. Bush created more jobs in TX,—-Texas has two reasons for jobs. (1) oil. this is does NOT translate to anything applicable to the rest of the country (2) immigrants who drag down wages. Texas is China-lite, wages in the dirt, no healthcare, no environmental regulations, workers living off crap wages. basically China, without the commute. If you want to work for $3/hr, move to Texas. If you want LOWER unemployment with MUCH higher wages and better quality job, move to Mass. oh, and OUR ocean water is crystal clear clean ;-)
Posted by: whoopstheydiditagain | September 8, 2011, 12:24 am 12:24 am
I find it so funny that you talk about every person in the field but The One who loves the Constitution and has a 30 year record that stands by the Constitution. The One who fights for Liberty, Peace and Freedom for all people. The one who has not flip floped when his “party” was not in power, The One who will bring the troops home, use those Trillions of dollars to pay off the debt and save the Country, Dr Ron Paul, the dime bit was huge, great spot, a true silver dime could still buy a gallon of gas, priceless, there is your inflation from the Federal Reserve and National Debt,
Posted by: Tim miller | September 8, 2011, 12:31 am 12:31 am
“…it just [sic] OBVIOUS! I know you wingnuts…” Your name calling is typical of that which is often directed by liberals, putative bastions of understanding and tolerance, towards members of the tea party. You assume from my few statements that I’m a member of the tea party (I’m not), that I’m a climate change denier (I’m not), and that I support Perry (I don’t). I have quite a bit in common with liberals in many areas, but thanks for the hypocritical hate anyway, because it’s part of what helps me to stay registered as an independent.
Posted by: AugustStrong | September 8, 2011, 12:35 am 12:35 am
Listening to the “debate” I got the feeling that none of the candidates (except Paul) have a clue how to improve the economy. Even Paul is not perfect but his goal of smaller government could help. I especially found the answers about immigration policy were lacking any real possibility of reform. What should have been said would be something like with 14 million Americans out of work a total suspension of all legal immigration should be implemented immediately and should last at least 5 years or until the unemployment rate falls below 6%. The ones that spoke said they supported legal immigration and the 900 thousand that come in legally each year should continue. This is not change I can believe in. Every issue discussed fell short on substance. Republicans are exactly like Democrats. Different flavors but the same old dogma.
Posted by: JFair | September 8, 2011, 12:37 am 12:37 am
I thought Newt Gingrich came up with the strangest when he attacked the moderator for media bias. Give me a break Newt. You were not on Fox News where they spend most of the questions pitching softballs for everyone to take pot shots at the man currently holding the job without actually engaging each other on the issues. Just in case you don’t understand Mr. Gingrich let me explain it. The idea is to draw out the contrasts between the individuals actually IN the debate so that the electorate can make a clear decision between contestants vying for the GOP nomination. The moderators are support to pit the contestants against each other. That’s why it’s a debate and not paid political advertising. I’m sure there will be plenty of media pot shots taken when Koch brothers millions start paying for misleading advertising.
Posted by: dan | September 8, 2011, 12:40 am 12:40 am
. You assume from my few statements that I’m a member of the tea party (I’m not), that I’m a climate change denier (I’m not), and that I support Perry (I don’t).—I was talking about Perry, not you! Mr. Ponzy Scheme, doesn’t believe in climate change, doesn’t believe in evolution is PERRY! The race has come down to Perry and Romney, so to say the ‘mainstream media” is pushing Romney is delusional. I assumed nothing about you, other than you’re delusional if you dont see that it’s either Perry or Romney, and Perry is absolutely electable. You’d think folks would have learned after the Palin problem with McCain. The media isn’t “pushing” Romney, they’re just reporting the truth of the matter. Just look at hte picture for goodness sake. Romney looks presidential. He IS a professional. Perry looks like a country bumpkin, the rest are inconsequential. be mad at the truth maybe, but at least, open your eyes and see it.
Posted by: whoopstheydiditagain | September 8, 2011, 12:40 am 12:40 am
excuse me —- and Perry is absolutely UNelectable in the general REAL election yet he’s looking like the front runner electable for the primaries. So republicans look on course to once again, elect a candidate who has no chance in ^(*&(* of winning.
Posted by: whoopstheydiditagain | September 8, 2011, 12:42 am 12:42 am
By all accounts in the liberal media, Romney of course, is the clear winner. Interesting that they provide the criteria and make the decision for us. Think about that.
Posted by: rsavola | September 8, 2011, 12:43 am 12:43 am
with 14 million Americans out of work a total suspension of all legal immigration should be implemented immediately —-that is such a bad idea. What if an immigrant creates a business that creates jobs???? face it, MANY MANY immigrants, legal or otherwise, work HARDER than Americans. fact. ANYONE who creates jobs should be allowed to stay. (2) of LEGAL immigration, we, my work, is currently falling behind in our design stages because we need more engineers. We have adds out, can’t find the workers to do the work. The longer it takes to get to market, the lower market share we will have, the lower the number of jobs for future assemblers, shippers, etc. We are processing some green cards so we can complete our work. When we go on campuses to colleges, only 20% of engineering students are Americans. Americans are LAZY!!!!!!! When I was in school as an engineer over 90% of the student body was Americans. If we dont DESIGN the products, then we dont make them, we dont sell them, our company does not grow jobs in other sectors. To say “no more immigrants” just means we dont grow. Stupid stupid idea. The one who KNOWS how to grow jobs and understand how business works is Romney. he is actually the ONLY ONE who understand growing businesses becaues HE HAS successfully as well as being a SUCCESSFUL governor. Mass unemployment rate is lower than Texas!
Posted by: whoopstheydiditagain | September 8, 2011, 12:47 am 12:47 am
poor Bachmann, it’s time to pack up her crazyness and go home. Her husband should think about sneaking the other man out the back door before she gets there.
Posted by: dan | September 8, 2011, 12:50 am 12:50 am
I’m happy to report, that the official results are in, and Ron Paul won the debate.
Posted by: And the Winner is | September 8, 2011, 12:55 am 12:55 am
For all you crying about illegal immigration, how about actually prosecuting the employers that are hiring the illegal’s for dirt wages? I guarantee you will not find one GOP candidate that will go after the people that are creating the environment for illegal to come for work. Get rid of the illegal employers and you get rid of the problem. It’s that simple.
Posted by: dan | September 8, 2011, 12:58 am 12:58 am
Ron Paul Won. Quit Ignoring Him! Time For Real Change!
Posted by: MIke | September 8, 2011, 12:59 am 12:59 am
Although ignored, Ron Paul won. He has my vote! Go America and go Ron Paul!
Posted by: Sarah Palin | September 8, 2011, 1:08 am 1:08 am
Ron Paul won the debate.. Special interests have no interest in seeing someone with real principles that benefit the american people rather than those special interest gain presidency. That’s the bottom line here. We can’t rely on MSM to deliver real news anymore. Luckily we don’t rely on them anymore.
Posted by: jason | September 8, 2011, 1:11 am 1:11 am
Who won? How could anyone be declared a winner when the whole lot of them are losers. Poor Republicans, that’s all they got?
Posted by: Disclaimer | September 8, 2011, 1:13 am 1:13 am
There was another guy at the debate that you forgot to mention, and he gave a solid performance as usual. Ron Paul was the only candidate who had specific, substantive and realistic things to say. The others spouted off the same rhetoric as on the campaign trail which is easy for the media to cover. It’s too difficult for them to critique an actual proposal since that would require research and thought and wouldn’t evoke a visceral reaction in viewers like a discussion about Perry’s hair. It’s a shame the media has picked what they want to cover and will not allow the people to decide the election.
Posted by: Clayton | September 8, 2011, 1:13 am 1:13 am
So in what crazy universe is being governor of the state with the lowest % of citizens who do not have health insurance a weakness? Is killing citizens of your state by cutting off access to health care a strength?
Posted by: ahumbleopinion | September 8, 2011, 1:13 am 1:13 am
Ron Paul and Mitt Romney did the best I think. Perry was disappointing considered he the media’s favourite right now.
The clash between Perry and Paul was expected. I feel like Bachmann has lost the spotlight and the main focus amongst many is Perry, Romney and Paul. Not sure who will have my vote yet, but right now I think Ron Paul has the best plan for the economy and Romney has the best plan for Immigration.
Posted by: Jason V | September 8, 2011, 1:15 am 1:15 am
IN this VERY short article, I guess you nailed it: “The organizers of Wednesday night’s debate did their best to turn the eight person debate into one that was really about two people: Perry and Romney.” Those ORGANIZERS sure did try didn’t they? I mean first of all they call it a DEBATE, yet they don’t ask every candidate the same question…and ONE SPECIAL CANDIDATE, got asked only 4 questions!!! You have sidelined and disrespect Ron Paul, but AMERICA is waking up! We want to be led by a LEADER, not MISLED by a news site and the ORGANIZERS….we are not animals nor children, we do NOT need to be MSM-HANDLED!!! I have lost faith in ABC news…what in the heck has news casting come to? Where are the responsible reporters? Can you define bias???? Where is your honor and integrity? Who has bought off the MSM sites? Why do they ALL pitch the same talking points and why oh why are they pushing only TWO candidates on us???
Posted by: Zellie | September 8, 2011, 1:16 am 1:16 am
Hmm let me think…I should cite the problems first: Rampant unemployment, foreclosures, bankrupsies, debt, war after war, jobs going overseas. taxes, inflation, trillions of dollars in bailout with no benefit for the average man. Mitt Romney nope he thinks the FED is does not need to be look at. Rick Perrry, did he not attend a Bilderberg meeting? He is fake, trying to talk about social security being a ponzi scheme. Trying all he can to get elected but once in office he will be yet another woodrow wilson. Bilderbergers are pro-bank. herman cain…warmonger, and exfec man. Thinks the commander in chief shold play second hand in military decisions. it is obvious, you cannot fix the unemployment problem until you fix the massive hemorragging of the dollar to the financial district. Where did all this money for bailouts, debt purchasing money went to? Why is fractional reserve banking allowed to determine the economy? It is clear that the only candidate with any kind of substance is Ron Paul. The people that would vote for Rick Perry or Mitt Romney are people that have something to gain or are totally ignorant as to how the present system is feeding the banks. So Yeah Ron Paul wins.
Posted by: julio Rodriguez | September 8, 2011, 1:17 am 1:17 am
I willing to give Romney a chance based strictly on his immigration stance.
The NUMBER ONE issue to tackle which incidentally will solve five major national financial problems at once is ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION. The best way to CREATE JOBS is to deport all illegal immigrants NOW. First that will create thousands and thousands of seriously needed immigration and border patrol agent jobs right off the bat. Second, as the illegal immigrants are removed and deported the jobs they leave will be available for TRUE AMERICANS. Third, by having TRUE AMERICANS employed then the TAXES WILL BE PAID to the government (instead of the employers of illegal immigrants keeping that money to avoid being detected for employing illegal immigrants). Fourth, by deporting illegal immigrants we SAVE OVER A TRILLION DOLLARS A YEAR as a nation since hard working TRUE AMERICANS currently pay taxes to support THE HEALTH, EDUCATION AND WELFARE BEING USED BY THE ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS WHO WILL NO LONGER BE HERE. (NOT COINCIDENTALLY THIS IS ALMOST EXACTLY EQUAL TO OUR ANNUAL NATIONAL BUDGET DEFICIET) Fifth, we won’t be spending real taxpayer dollars on health (including anchor babies) education and welfare on multiple fraudulent/fake identifications for each of these individuals. And finally, as a BIG BONUS it will prove to America and the rest of the world that we are serious about getting our country back on our feet which is the biggest inducement (GLOBAL CONSUMER CONFIDENCE) that will be immediately affected. America and the world need to witness this confidence. Finally, we will show everyone we are serious about protecting our country and our borders from terrorists.
Posted by: economystic extraordinaire | September 8, 2011, 1:22 am 1:22 am
Ron Paul….That’s what WE SAY. Why then does your news headline promote Perry and Romney? Because they are more liberal? FoxNews poll shows Ron Paul won also. Is ABC deaf? Or just seriously SLANTED?
Posted by: granolajoe | September 8, 2011, 1:28 am 1:28 am
I’m not sure who won, but the American people LOST.
Posted by: Ryan Zipfe | September 8, 2011, 1:30 am 1:30 am
Perry will replace Social Security with what?
Perry’s Texas is burning down but he travels the country JUST TO RAISE MONEY FOR HIMSELF!
Posted by: The Truth | September 8, 2011, 1:56 am 1:56 am
Ron Paul duh!
Posted by: josh | September 8, 2011, 2:00 am 2:00 am
So you don’t even mention Ron Paul, Ron Paul Ron Paul Ron Paul Ron Paul Ron Paul Ron Paul Ron Paul Ron Paul Ron Paul – - What a sorry excuse for a reporter you are!
Posted by: Bob | September 8, 2011, 2:20 am 2:20 am
Shocker… no mention of Ron Paul. Ron Paul is the real deal. A man that doesn’t have a corporate agenda and is not a puppet. Try all you want to ignore his existence, but people are waking up!
Ron Paul!
Posted by: Grateful Web | September 8, 2011, 2:22 am 2:22 am
Ron Paul is the only candidate that has a clue about the serious economic problems that we face. The media pretty much ignores him or tries to portray him as some sort of kook. Hopefully there are enough people how do more than simply watch FOX, CNN, MSN, etc.
Posted by: Paul | September 8, 2011, 2:33 am 2:33 am
First of all that wasn’t really a debate. Of the very few actual debate moments the answers from Herman Cain and Newt Gingrich were spot on winners. Since neither of them are being considered by the media as forerunners their time was limited. Huntsman, a moderate is the only candidate that Obama has a chance of beating in an open election so he is in the spotlight. I just hope we don’t see him emerge as the medias choice as McCain and Dole did only to be severely beaten.
And the winner is: Hillary. If she decides to follow Cheney’s advice and get into the race she ‘s our next president, hands down.
Posted by: Karl Stalin | September 8, 2011, 2:47 am 2:47 am
Is it completely unreasonable to expect that the time be split evenly between the contenders, and that similar policy questions asked to each candidate? MSNBC and Politico are dead to me. If I walk into a building and either are on, I will personally shut off the TV wherever I may be.
Give me an unbiased, respectful, and substantial debate. Seriously, the “progressive” MSNBC ignores the only anti-war candidate (Democrat or Republican) in favor of questions about Slick Rick’s stance on evolution? I can not wait to see the time/question breakdowns on this debate. Did Perry’s campaign pay for his extra time?
Posted by: m. nolan | September 8, 2011, 2:59 am 2:59 am
MITT ROMNEY IS LOOKING VERY PRESIDENTIAL, sounding VERY SMART and VERY CONFIDENT. NEXT STEP — grill Perry and the others who believe Social Security is a Ponzi scheme. It may be failing and falling but ROMNEY is right — tens of millions of Americans have benefitted from it and more are depending on it right now. It is right to say that Social Security should be managed properly because it is falling apart nowadays but to call it a “Ponzi” scheme when your father and mother got their bread from it is JUST wrong. PERRY will not beat Barack Obama. Romney is the man.
Posted by: QueerGasm | September 8, 2011, 3:01 am 3:01 am
I think Romney won this round, too. The questions and follow up questions weren’t very good, imho and there were a lot of platitudes throughout, alongside some GOP red meant. I’m glad they touched on immigration, health care, social security and Rick Perry’s Gardasil executive order but what about Perry’s rampant crony capitalism? Or why not ask some tough questions about whether gov’t creates jobs or not, and if it doesn’t why were Mittster, Perry and Huntsman arguing about who created the most jobs as governor?
Posted by: Kimberly | September 8, 2011, 3:20 am 3:20 am
Ron Paul did the best, but I have to give Perry credit for speaking the truth about social security, it is a Ponzi scheme and should be discontinued ASAP.
Posted by: UncleNed | September 8, 2011, 3:22 am 3:22 am
Romney won–He advocated E-Verify. Amnesty advocates: Gingrich, Huntsman and Santorum should not be allowed in any more debates. Perry needs to state his enthusiastic support for implementing E-Verify in the next debate.
Posted by: PJ Kirk | September 8, 2011, 3:44 am 3:44 am
Ron Paul is my only choice.
Posted by: jimmy hernandez | September 8, 2011, 4:40 am 4:40 am
There in no other way to save this country beside Ron Paul. Go Dr. Paul, we are behind You!!!
Posted by: Don | September 8, 2011, 4:49 am 4:49 am
Ron Paul
MSM beware, we know.
Posted by: nick | September 8, 2011, 5:33 am 5:33 am
Perry won
Posted by: girlfriday | September 8, 2011, 5:47 am 5:47 am
Polls are fixed! Audit the polls. Audit the votes. How are they counte so instantly? Are they registered voters? This seriously needs to been investigated. Wasn’t there a voting reform bill in place? Remember Florida and Ohio! 14 million unemployed=14 million votes=enough votes for the next President.
Posted by: cs | September 8, 2011, 6:18 am 6:18 am
You can pretend like Ron Paul doesn’t exist all you want but he does – he was right up there on the stage – and he has a message that resonates with most people who hear it. You see, you’re not the only site on the internet; people can actually get information that is UNFILTERED by the likes of you and the other mainstream media outlets. So just stop fighting reality and try to be objective, fair and balanced for a change. We’re not all bovine idiots who gobble down whatever story you feed us. Provide some real news and maybe you’ll get more comments on ABC’s website than I get on my facebook __________________________________________________
I must agreed wholeheartedly. FOXNEWS is already a paing in the ass. Just don’t go the same route.
Posted by: garcia | September 8, 2011, 6:49 am 6:49 am
If you are a senior citizen and vote Republican, you can kiss your Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid goodbye. The new Republican party is not your father’s republican party anymore.
Posted by: EffortPA | September 8, 2011, 6:52 am 6:52 am
Ron Paul did the best, but I have to give Perry credit for speaking the truth about social security, it is a Ponzi scheme and should be discontinued ASAP. Posted by: UncleNed | September 8, 2011, 3:22 am 3:22 am ——————————————People who think like you are financially well off.
You are in another cloud. Kome unten auf dem teppich!
Posted by: garcia | September 8, 2011, 6:52 am 6:52 am
“debate into one that was really about two people: Perry and Romney”.
Really? It has NEVER been the news media outlets’ job to determine who the candidates are. After the media blackout surrounding Ron Paul last time, and then seeing absolutely no mention of him in this article EVEN THOUGH he performed solid and quite possibly had a better showing than Romney, I am quite appalled, and have chosen to re-think the fact that I watch/read ABC News at all. The media’s job is to report the news, not to tell me who I should really focus on in the debate (and therefore, who to cast my vote for). It’s sad that the majority of Americans couldn’t be bothered to look into voting history and detailed policy information regarding ALL of the candidates, but they watch and read the news from outlets like this one. And they will vote anyway.
ABC, after the last scandal regarding the Ron Paul blackout, people are paying attention to this now! You can’t sit there and continue ignoring the other candidates, because people notice now. I noticed, and it actually disturbed me as I was reading this. I saw the debate last night, and I saw the individuals that performed well and had valid and acceptable points, while giving good reasoning. Then I wake up to articles like this from the major media outlets, and realize that I am being fed. ABC, Fox News, MSNBC… they’re all playing the same game, just reaching out to different crowds.
Posted by: Joey | September 8, 2011, 7:10 am 7:10 am
i think your forgetting a idealogically consistent 12th term congressmen?
Posted by: ripthegnar | September 8, 2011, 7:11 am 7:11 am
I am listening hard to Mitt Romney, should already be president and we wouldnt BE IN THIS MESS.
oh by the way ABC, this is my first dang comment, wth
Posted by: Soni | September 8, 2011, 7:13 am 7:13 am
So Perry’s busy seeking nomination whilst his state burns thanks at least in part to his firefighter cuts. You can’t make this stuff up!
Posted by: Luke | September 8, 2011, 7:35 am 7:35 am
I meant I think Ron Paul won.
Posted by: whoopsididitagain | September 8, 2011, 7:53 am 7:53 am
The media did its job of convincing the sheep that only Romney or Perry are their candidates. The elite globalists that run the media would have it no other way. Now you’re all falling for it and letting them control your mind.
Posted by: blind spot | September 8, 2011, 8:08 am 8:08 am
Wow, it seems the entire Ron Paul electorate has decided to post here today. All six of them. His campaign manager must of sent out a broadcast e-mail to flood the news sites. I hope their 30 year old server didn’t crash. Mr. Paul might have to figure out where he’s going to cut the wife’s food budget to purchase a new one.
Posted by: dan | September 8, 2011, 8:08 am 8:08 am
Well, it wasn’t the upcoming generation, the elderly or women that won. That’s for sure. This anti-government thing out of career politicians doesn’t work for me.
Posted by: Secondlook | September 8, 2011, 8:15 am 8:15 am
Despite the fact that the media totally ignores his popularity —-RON PAUL FOR PRESIDENT!
Posted by: DLB | September 8, 2011, 8:15 am 8:15 am
The questions were embarrassing. I barely heard a word about China, Iran, the Middle East crisis. Nothing about Europe, Israel. Barely a word about what these candidates would actually do with the economy or taxes or the deficit. Full of gotcha questions. If this is what is to come and I were a candidate I would be seriously looking at other sponsors. And Ron Paul looked like he was in the beginnings of dementia, his answers didn’t even make sense.
Posted by: Ferrari5555 | September 8, 2011, 8:23 am 8:23 am
Ron Paul might have been a possibility here but I am not sure he will live another 4 years. Which is an indication of weakness. Rick Perry is doubtful, he is to much of a cowboy. Looks like Mitt will have my vote
Posted by: Soni | September 8, 2011, 8:42 am 8:42 am
When will they ask the real true questions?
Why were 81 congressmen in Israel, two weeks, all expenses paid? 3000 troops in Iraq? Why not pulling out totally. If a Republican dominated Congress hasn’t created jobs as they promissed, that’s why they won, and if jobs went overseas, what’s the secret weapon they have to create jobs?
Another war? The annihilation of China? How long do they expect that twenty million unemployed Americans remain peaceful before anger due to frustration push them to the streets? I think they afraid of being fired.
Posted by: garcia | September 8, 2011, 8:43 am 8:43 am
actually, someone on here stole my name and posted that I supported Paul. Gee, a Paul supporter who is nuts. what a shock. Just like your boy…fruit loops.
Posted by: whoopstheydiditagain | September 8, 2011, 8:47 am 8:47 am
Ron Paul won the debate. You guys in the establishment picked Obama last time and you aren’t going to pick Perry/Romney this time and stick us with another turd.
Posted by: Jim | September 8, 2011, 8:49 am 8:49 am
, but I have to give Perry credit for speaking the truth about social security——-well, yeah, he did. Perry said, effectively, I’m too stupid to fix social security, so I wont. Elect me, Social Security goes bye bye. Well, I’ve contributed to social security for over 25 years, so I have a BIG problem with some big stupid Texan saying “eh, over my head. but…elect me president!” Mitt Romney walked into the WInter Olympics badly in debt, hardly anything accomplished, or built, and in a year turned it completely around. Built all the facilities on time, up to spec, and perfectly within budget. If anyone can fix social security it’s Romney. Yes, I definitely Perry is telling the truth, HE cannot fix social security. I frankly, dont think he can do anything. He said he was “proud” of whatTexas has accomplished….after being told about thier abysmal schools, highest poverty rates, low wage jobs en masse. It’s China-lite there, and his waters are black and polluted, and he’s ‘proud’. wonderful. NOthing like shooting for low expectations. No way on God’s green earth would I ever vote for that stupid man.
Posted by: whoopstheydiditagain | September 8, 2011, 8:51 am 8:51 am
I am really amazed of how many of you think Ron Paul has a chance to win the nomination. I think Ron speaks volumes and has some really good points. However Ron does not have that presidential overall quality. He can be a good advisor or consultant but not a good leader. He is definitely better than crazy Perry.
Posted by: joe | September 8, 2011, 8:58 am 8:58 am
The only people there who aren’t out and out flakes are Romney and Huntsman, but still neither of those two is anyone you want sitting next to you in a bar.
Posted by: CallMeBC | September 8, 2011, 9:13 am 9:13 am
I won’t forget that Perry was a Democrat. His handlers can label it a conservative one all they want, but I suspect he’s more of a typical tell-them-what-you-think-they-want-to-hear politician than a true conservative. Same goes for Romney. He’s a guy familiar with compromising with the Left. The only 2 who REALLY believe what they say are Paul and Cain. The others, including Bachman and even Gingrich, are more PRODUCTS of the current populist swing to the Right than conservatives first and always.
Posted by: JSK | September 8, 2011, 9:19 am 9:19 am
The Demos are working hard to get Ron Paul to run as an Independent, they know that is the only way Obama will ever be re- elected. Be aware of the comments that are really Demos. People keep harping on the low paying jobs in Texas, at least they have jobs and it is much cheaper to live in Texas than other states.
Posted by: Freedom | September 8, 2011, 9:21 am 9:21 am
Perry fails with his stance on illegal immigration. One example, he’s ok with school tax credits for non-citizens. People need to look at his history!
Posted by: Kathy M. | September 8, 2011, 9:21 am 9:21 am
Illegal immigration is definitely a problem, especially during these very tough times with unemployment exceeding 9 percent. However, the U.S. is still handing out work visas to those who want to work in the U.S. Why? Why have we not put a moritorium on immigration, period. Until our country gets back on its feet, we need to be concerned with our needs, not the needs and desires of those around the world who want to work in the U.S. Please read the information in quotes. If that doesn’t ruffle you feathers, nothing will.
“A total quota of 85,000 H1B visas are available for this year:
With a total of 85,000 H1B’s available and the economy recovering for this H1B visa FY 2012 season, it’s important for US employers to try to complete their recruitment and hiring of new H1B workers as early as possible and to have their immigration counsel prepare and file applications with the USCIS as early as possible. It’s equally important for International professionals and students to try to obtain and secure H1B visa sponsorship jobs and employment offers in the USA as early as possible, to help ensure visa issuance before all the available H1B’s are taken for the year.”
Posted by: carole | September 8, 2011, 9:24 am 9:24 am
I agree with most of this analysis except Bachmann. The fact that she actually believes Obama’s foreign policy is worse than his domestic policy is baffling. First, he has fixed some of what Bush/Cheney screwed up (not enough, but steps in the right direction). And Libya has been a success. He is vulnerable on domestic policy. Bachmann has little chance to win the nomination and even less of a chance of unseating Obama.
Posted by: Troy Wood | September 8, 2011, 9:28 am 9:28 am
I have a question for the Ron Paul supporter. did he say that 9/11 was caused by excessive government regulation?I know he said we don’t need an FAA and that the private sector should take over air traffic control, and all regulation, for that matter.
Posted by: Kimberly | September 8, 2011, 9:30 am 9:30 am
It always makes me chuckle to see yet another piece discussing ostensibly the entire set of Republican candidates, while not even mentioning Paul. To be fair, neither Gingrich nor Santorum were mentioned, but neither of those is arguably 3rd in the race. The other current contender for 3rd ALWAYS gets mentioned, as her ideas are less viably dangerous (to the Left) than Paul’s.
Posted by: SK | September 8, 2011, 9:30 am 9:30 am
Obama won last night. No one on that stage lat night is electable in the general election, except maybe Huntsman. And he’s too moderate and intelligent to be selected by the GOP. So Obama won………..
Posted by: Searambler | September 8, 2011, 9:36 am 9:36 am
What a joke! Was anyone listening to this garbage? That’s all it is, garbage. Perry and Romney sounded like two little, spoiled-brat boys checking out who’s wee-wee was bigger. We need to stop the division of our country and instead of taking sides, start looking at the candidates themselves and see what their record is and what they have accomplished.
Posted by: Iluvdausa | September 8, 2011, 9:43 am 9:43 am
Do a Google search for “first read republican debate”. The very first link will turn up a reader’s poll with currently almost 120k votes, with who people thought actually won the debate last night. The results are pretty eye-opening to the steadfast resolve of ABC (and media in general) to cover only what they want you to see. Kudos for user interaction, albeit a microcosm of the American populace.
Posted by: Joey | September 8, 2011, 9:47 am 9:47 am
Amy. You and Mark Halpern totally missed the point of the end result of this debate. The big story is that in Rick Perry’s debut on the national presidential stage, would he be able to stand his ground or fall flat on his face? He entered the night far ahead in polls and when the debate was over- nothing changed. Despite constant attacks from all his opponents, Perry ended the night showing that even though he hadn’t debated an opponent in many years- they still couldn’t really put a hurt on him. Perry is going to easily win the nomination.
Posted by: Mark Masterson | September 8, 2011, 9:51 am 9:51 am
Ron Paul by far, however I wish he would have had a more polished demeanor and he would have been given a chance to talk about creating new jobs.
Posted by: Mike | September 8, 2011, 9:56 am 9:56 am
Best line of the night? Asked whether he would join the rest of the candidates in taking a pledge to not raise taxes, Huntsman said:
“I’d love to get everybody to sign a pledge to take no pledges”.
Posted by: Searambler | September 8, 2011, 9:57 am 9:57 am
Ron Paul needs to be heard….NOT business as usual bull$%#t
Posted by: granolajoe | September 8, 2011, 9:58 am 9:58 am
Since it was ONLY on MSNBC, which is a totally Dem biased, channel, only on cable, I couldn’t find it to watch it.
Pathetic place to have the GOP debate, as all that did was feed the lions on that channel, afterwards.
If it isn’t going to be on a major network, the people get slighted.
Posted by: Rick McDaniel | September 8, 2011, 10:00 am 10:00 am
Obama won. Paul cannot is unelectable;e even in his own party.Huntsman is reasonable but hasn’t a prayer. In terms of getting moderates in Nov–its the Mittman-for all his woes. Watch the reps shoot themselves in the foot.
Posted by: JIM | September 8, 2011, 10:00 am 10:00 am
Not MSNBC, what a joke!
Posted by: Freedom | September 8, 2011, 10:01 am 10:01 am
Mark wrote, “Perry is going to easily win the nomination.”
The real mud-slinging hasn’t even started yet on the Right. As the primaries get closer and closer, look for more attacks from everyone on Perry’s ‘job creation’ record, his government-for-sale-to-the-highest-bidder Texas political climate, his record on education, etc etc etc. The GOP hasn’t yet BEGUN to eat its own……….
Posted by: Searambler | September 8, 2011, 10:02 am 10:02 am
Rick McDaniel wrote, “Since it was ONLY on MSNBC, which is a totally Dem biased, channel, only on cable, I couldn’t find it to watch it.”
Really? You don’t have cable or satellite TV? Too bad. Of course the question here is, since you DIDN’T see the debate, how on earth do you know there was any sort of bias involved with it? For all you know, it could have been the best moderated and most unbiased debate in history. BTW, you could have watched it online. I assume you have a computer and an internet connection, since, well, you’re here complaining………….
Posted by: Searambler | September 8, 2011, 10:08 am 10:08 am
This is exactly what will cause the Republicans to lose in 2012. They scatter into 3 or 4 different camps backing one candidate more beatable than the next. They seem to LOVE the ones that are “Out There” while ignoring the people that COULD beat President Obama and that’s just FINE with me. People on the right like the more outlandish candidates such as Bachmann and now Perry. Both of them appear big time to the Tea Party which is exactly WHY the MAJORITY of the voters in the USA will vote for someone ELSE! I watched the debate and I’ve read some of these comments, all I’ve seen are people totally IGNORING what really happened and STILL chosing whichever person they were for in the first place while NEVER considering what good others had to say. IMO, the right has only TWO viable and electable candidates and they are Romney and Huntsman, but since SOME on the right are FAR right, they will go for the UNelectable people and ignore the better men in the race.
Posted by: demnme | September 8, 2011, 10:18 am 10:18 am
Social Security as a Ponzi Scheme
Social Security is a Ponzi scheme. The early entrants into the scheme get paid by new entrants into the scheme. As the number of new entrants falls the money promised to existing entrants exceeds the amount collected from new entrants, hence bankruptcy.
When social security started there were 16 workers for each retiree. Now there are three workers for each retiree and falling. Soon SS will be bankrupt as the amount promised to retirees exceeds the receipts collected from those working.
Everyone knows this simple fact, except apparently liberals and beltway pundits..
Posted by: bri | September 8, 2011, 10:19 am 10:19 am
“Everyone knows this simple fact, except apparently liberals and beltway pundits.”
Funny thing is, even when Republicans controlled everything in the last 3 decades, they did nothing to end this Ponzi scheme. Why?
Posted by: Searambler | September 8, 2011, 10:23 am 10:23 am
NBC/Politico came in to the debate with their out-of-touch liberal agenda. The number one issue is jobs/economy. Let’s hope CNN does a better job on Monday!!!
Posted by: Your-conscience | September 8, 2011, 10:28 am 10:28 am
“NBC/Politico came in to the debate with their out-of-touch liberal agenda. The number one issue is jobs/economy. Let’s hope CNN does a better job on Monday!!!”
Ummmm, you DO realize that this was just a Republican contender debate, and not a debate between Republicans and Democrats, don’t you? This debate was designed to highlight the differences between the Republican candidates who want to challenge Obama next November. did it NOT do that? And if not, why not? Your silly accusation that this was somehow not a valid venue or debate because it was moderated by NBC and Politico just goes to show how out of touch the Right really is with reality………..
Posted by: Searambler | September 8, 2011, 10:33 am 10:33 am
Ugh! Why does the media always downplay Ron Paul? He was the only candidate that leads in EVERY POLL I can find! In one poll I found he won by 86%! Perry is an arrogant, self-serving, jerk and I would vote DEMOCRAT before I vote for him! But, the media makes it sound like he is their little darling! What a JOKE!
Posted by: shaneaus | September 8, 2011, 10:33 am 10:33 am
The bash-Obama, no-plan debate leaves us with one winner: Pres. Obama.
Posted by: newz4i | September 8, 2011, 10:37 am 10:37 am
Some say Ron Paul is “unelectable.” WHY? I’m an average “Joe” getting by, I have a great education (4 yr degree), I started out poor and worked to get to where I am (about 65,000/yr). I am middle of the road on politics – but, generally vote Republican because I want the government to CUT spending. I will vote for Ron Paul. Why, can’t others? The polls mostly show that he has some good approval. I think the GOP doesn’t like Ron Paul and this perception of being non-winnable makes the GOP and media look to other candidates – and, this in turn influences people. So, instead of people influencing the media and politics – we will all be herded like sheep to the fleecing! It is disgusting – and, all of you saying one person or another is unelectable are the sheep leading the way!
Posted by: shaneaus | September 8, 2011, 10:40 am 10:40 am
yes,there are aspects of Ponzi to SS but its a pretty crude analogy. How are the reps gonna fix it?Cut it to nothing. never mind the poor, the old, the sick that arn’t rich.They can just die because that is survival of the fittest.That is natural Republicanism. And (nearly all those guys have SS–why don’t they give the $t back to gov?)
Posted by: JIM | September 8, 2011, 10:40 am 10:40 am
Too bad the moderators didn’t say, “Raise your hand if you believe in Evolution”……………..
Posted by: SearamblerOne | September 8, 2011, 10:47 am 10:47 am
The media has already picked who they want to be president. It makes me sick. Not just ask two people on the stage questions. Give everyone a fair chance.
Posted by: justin | September 8, 2011, 10:49 am 10:49 am
After last nights horrible performance by the moderators, no one can ever say that they mainstream media is not biased against Ron Paul and the public is solidly behind him. The mainstream media and establishment is doing everything in their power to stop Ron Paul, the peoples choice. I predict they will kill him if they have to.
Posted by: Michael Schmitt | September 8, 2011, 10:50 am 10:50 am
Let’s not forget about Ron Paul ABC.. We know you meant to mention him right? lol
Funny how you hit the nail on the head with how the debate was framed but went on to leave somebody out and failed to mention Ron Paul. Do you people really think that what you’re doing is working?
Posted by: Bla | September 8, 2011, 10:51 am 10:51 am
Ron Paul the only one worth voting for…..
Posted by: MetalDemon | September 8, 2011, 10:53 am 10:53 am
I would never vote for any of these people. They talked problems/problems but offered no solutions and their party created the problems. I hope michelle is finally out and santorum should have stayed home. I guess the two of them needed those ‘slave’ votes for the pledge they signed.
I’m voting Obama-Biden in 2012!
Posted by: Ebbie | September 8, 2011, 10:53 am 10:53 am
They bashed Obama but offered no solutions. I can’t vote for this party because all I saw was HATE on the stage. I did not see one candidate who put the people of the U S first. We are hurting but it was all about them. Newt Gingrich said a mouthfull but full of what? BULL!
Posted by: rxvgj0 | September 8, 2011, 10:57 am 10:57 am
Perry will win the tea party nomination because they are fringe people like him. Why they talked so much about s.s. last night when it is secure until 2026. It is not the immediate problem we should be talking about. We need jobs, infrastructure, revenue, immigration reform, solar energy and other things that are far more important. Perry would kill medicare and social security as he said it is aginst constitution. Romney would privitize it giving it to the banks to invest and we all know where that would lead us…we are in this recession because of the lack of regulations on the banks during the Bush era. While people are dumping on this president for this recession…remember folks,….it started before 2007 and it was Bush and Cheney who took us into a needless war and still will not apologize for the loss of lives for their folly. Bush also gave the banks the first bailout and Obama was against it but Bush pleaded and he and Mc Cain gave in in the interest of the country. Something this group does not understand. You do not have to like everything but in the interest of helping the country…being an obstructionist is not good either. Obama has some good plans and he did provide jobs …1.2 mill in public sector a more in the private sector and he saved the auto industry which is now having their best year sales wise since 2003. Just remember…we ould be in a depression had he not taken steps…should he have done more in stimulus..yes…every economist agrees…but he knew what he could get out of this congress so let’s put the blame where it lies…on those in the congress who have stopped every person he has nominated and every plan he has proposed. Let’s see how cooperative they will be in the future.
Posted by: Pat from Georgia | September 8, 2011, 11:15 am 11:15 am
Who won the debate? Ron Paul of course.
Is that being mentioned anywhere? Even in the MSNBC Poll Paul is WAY ahead of everyone else. Nope, no word on that, instead there are headlines about how Perry and Romney faced off.
To the media: STOP PUSHING CANDIDATES DOWN OUR THROATS!
Posted by: Melissa | September 8, 2011, 11:20 am 11:20 am
Ron Paul won. ABC News is liberal. Need we say more?
Posted by: fazsha | September 8, 2011, 11:27 am 11:27 am
Romney won the debate hands down! Unfortunately Romney will have a hard time winning the primaries, while Perry has a better chance… On general election it is a different story, Romney would have a better chance beating Obama. Perry would lose to Obama.
Posted by: Al Pine | September 8, 2011, 11:34 am 11:34 am
All any of them had to say was we need to get rid Obama and get jobs going. No substance of what kind of plan they would have for getting jobs accept drop regulations that got us here in the first place. Cain talked about 9 9 9 but repubs are not seriously considering him as nominee so GOP has nothing just like it has for the last 4 yrs. Just obstruction
Posted by: anamericanpatriot | September 8, 2011, 11:39 am 11:39 am
Ron Paul won. Every one else represent the status quo that has run this country since Reagan lost his ideals.
Posted by: Sarah | September 8, 2011, 11:39 am 11:39 am
Rick Perry is obviously the establishment front man. You can always tell because all of a sudden the media will jump on the bandwagon of a particular guy. Usually at the same time the media will be trying to destroy another, in this case Ron Paul.
INFORM YOURSELVES TO THE BILDERBERG GROUP AND HOW THEIR INFLUENCE ON OUR LEADERS. Rick Perry has attended the Bildergberg. He is the new establishment candidate. Either way, they will get one of their own. Obama or perry?
Posted by: Coleman | September 8, 2011, 11:41 am 11:41 am
The media cleary want perry to have the nomination as he will have no shot at beating the current president. Romney did well, but he also spewed rhetoric the whole evening, only Ron Paul gave consistent remarks with substance, which is what Americans WANT/NEED to hear
Posted by: Tom q | September 8, 2011, 11:54 am 11:54 am
I am glad Rick Perry told the truth about Social Security. You can call it anything you want. But it does not work. I get my statements from Social Security. They tell me I “might get one third of the money I put in.” If it is broken, I don’t see why it is wrong to say that it is broken and needs to be fixed. I don’t want to keep having the goverment taking money I will never see. What is so wrong with the truth? People need to read their own Social Security statements that we all get in the mail.
Posted by: CLM1992 | September 8, 2011, 12:05 pm 12:05 pm
I’m surprised there is not a “censored” bar over Ron Paul.
Posted by: Sonjay | September 8, 2011, 12:39 pm 12:39 pm
If Ron Paul looked like Mitt Romney or Rick Perry he would be a slam dunk…..I am ALL IN for Ron Paul. He is the Man. HE will Outlive His Presidential term. He is the only man that knows the MONSTER inside and out and knows how to Kill it!!! Most people however only care to hear about Jobs….will I have a paycheck so I can get my nails done, my tan, my car, my club membership etc..etc….Ron Paul is about LIBERTY and FREEDOM. Wake up and start reading your constitution and teaching your children what it says. IT still works today. The same government that is providing for my couch potato Social Security sucking leach neighbors that are as capable of working as I am while I pay enough taxes every month to support their worthless asses is the same government that will lead us to the slaughtering house through complete submission to their mandates……SHEEPLES…WE are so lost and will remain so without RON PAUL……
Posted by: pkurtz | September 8, 2011, 1:35 pm 1:35 pm
100% RON PAUL!!!! The media is so stupid, seriously now they are just making it too obvious that they are choosing too Ignore him!! MSNBC straw poll for last night’s debate shows him at over 49%!!! Which is more than double the amount of the other candidates. That alone should be a HUGE RED FLAG to the American people, honestly all the other candidates want more of the same CONTROL CONTROL CONTROL!! BUT RON PAUL WANTS FREEDOM FOR THE AMERICAN PEOPLE!! And believes IT IS OUR CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT!! He has been consist throughout his whole political career even before he started running for president in every election since 1988 and he predicted that we would be in the shape that we are in now if things didn’t change. RESEARCH RON PAUL, find out for yourselves what he is all about. And if, God forbid, he isn’t on the ballot this year leaving us all to pick from one of these clowns or “The Manchurian Candidate” Obama, the whole thing is completely rigged (which is already thanks to electronic voting) and sweetheart “you can take it to the bank”!!
Posted by: Showers2Flowers | September 8, 2011, 2:05 pm 2:05 pm
I am not certain why the mainstream media is not covering the fact that a majority of viewers around the US believe that RON PAUL won the debate? Are they trying to steer us clear of him, because they do not believe he is a serious candidate? Only the primaries will tell who AMERICANS believe is serious or not. The media needs to wake up, because America wants Ron Paul, “The Sleeper” for President!
Posted by: PaulInUsAll | September 8, 2011, 2:12 pm 2:12 pm
Ron Paul, Ron Paul, Ron Paul Our next President Of The United States In America in 2012 !!!!
Posted by: Nick | September 8, 2011, 2:43 pm 2:43 pm
Actually, it seems that those on the right are having a problem using their brains lately. For proof, just look at the entire Republican field running for President, now look to see which people running gain the MOST interest from those on the right and THEN check out which person(s) could actually have a CHANCE to beat President Obama. Those two choices are NOT coming out 1 in the same so it’s easy to see how the Right likes being self-defeating just because they have another dumb Governor from Texas that wears boots and speaks with a twang that they will vote in despite the fact he can’t win once you get ALL of the voters in the USA to make that decision. Republicans only have a crowd of clowns and 2 decent people. Of course, which two are the ones the republicans WANT to win the nomination? You got it, the ones who CAN NOT win!!! I hope all you righties get what you want and in turn, the Nation will get what we NEED!!! OBAMA in 2012!!!!!
Posted by: demnme | September 8, 2011, 3:11 pm 3:11 pm
“But, when it came to defending his [Perry's] own statements on Social Security and climate change later in the debate he floundered.”
Ummm, Amy, did you miss that day in J-school where they talked about “evidence” and “making an argument”? You know, where you put forward an assertion AND THEN SUPPORT IT WITH SOME BATTERY OF FACTS?!?
You — and your editors at ABC — seem to have confused “analysis” with “using lots of adjectives.”
Which may explain why so many Americans stopped listening to the networks long ago…
Posted by: Karen | September 8, 2011, 3:19 pm 3:19 pm
Paul grabbed first in a MSNBC debate poll, following the Reagan Centennial debate. At approximately 11am ET, nearly 134,000 people have participated in the debate poll. Paul is in first place with 50.3 percent, Romney is in second place with 17.2 percent and Perry is in third place with 14.3 percent. More than 67,000 people have voted for Paul.
Posted by: Roberto | September 8, 2011, 4:13 pm 4:13 pm
This is absolutely ridiculous. RON PAUL doesn’t even get mentioned. Thank God for the internet where the media propaganda can be somewhat overcome by American citizens giving their own opinions. RON PAUL! I felt the need to mention his name twice since ABC and the like never do.
Posted by: Matt | September 8, 2011, 4:38 pm 4:38 pm
Every poll has Ron Paul winning by a landslide. The majority of comments on all articles are for Ron Paul. I would never consider voting for anyone but Paul.
Posted by: Jamie | September 8, 2011, 4:59 pm 4:59 pm
So the Ron Paul blackout continues. He was physically threatened by Rick Perry during a commercial break as he called out Texas Gov. on various things, Perry swooped in on a break a physically touched him and bullied him to cool it. Meanwhile Paul win’s and gets not mention from the big banker owned media. Way to sell the “news” to madison avenue.
Posted by: Steven | September 8, 2011, 5:00 pm 5:00 pm
Perry, Paul and Romney held their own. I like the jobs approach of Romney, but favor Perry overall at this point. I do not feel Paul and Bachmann and the others can win election, even if they get the nomination. Smart money at this point is on Perry and Romney. Obama’s ability to campaign, evade responsibility for performance and the tendency to blame others for what he has NOT done put him at an advantage over virtually anyone who is breathing. IF the GOP can focus on substance, and not be trashed like Palin and Bork for that matter, Obama’s performance will fall flat on its face and he will go the way of the dinosaur. A steady hand, transparency, relevant experience will trump community organizing any day of the week. Basic knowledge and understanding of capitalism, the U.S. Constitution and basic economics definitely a plus.
Posted by: curtis41 | September 8, 2011, 6:08 pm 6:08 pm
In watching the debate, Ron Paul made that absolutely ludicrous and paranoid statement about not wanting a fence “because it will keep us in”. I thought, “well, that should take some steam away from all the fanatic Ron Paul followers”. But reading these comments today, I see I’m wrong. Holy Cow, what does it take for some of you to see the craziness of Ron Paul? Seems like a nice enough guy, but totally unhinged. He is the one guy running who Obama can actually beat. The Dems would just have to show clips of his crazy comments, and he’s made plenty.
Posted by: dxlh | September 8, 2011, 6:11 pm 6:11 pm
Despite the fact that he is continuely ignored, Ron Paul clearly won the debate. Ron Paul is the only possible candidate for me in 2012.
Posted by: jon w-lf | September 8, 2011, 6:20 pm 6:20 pm
Ron Paul clearly won. I’m sick of the media pretending he doesn’t exist.
Posted by: Derek | September 8, 2011, 7:36 pm 7:36 pm
Ron Paul is electable. Those who give that as a reason not to vote for him are uninformed … or misinformed. Rasmussen polls from August 2011, July 2011 and April, 2010 place Ron Paul neck and neck with Obama … oh, yeah … look it up on Rasmussen’s website (39% to 38% in August, 41% to 37% in July, and 42% to 41% in April, 2010). Obama was riding pretty high in April, 2010 and Dr. Paul is still in a dead heat with him.
BTW, Rasmussen polls ARE scientific.
Posted by: almound | September 8, 2011, 8:11 pm 8:11 pm
Herman Cain only had five minutes and answered the questions w/out going into a song and dance.
Only 50% of country knows of him and he only trails O’bama by 7%. Slow and steady rising to the top like fresh cream. CAIN you dig it?….I knew that you could.
Posted by: Randall Martin | September 8, 2011, 9:33 pm 9:33 pm
Uh hello…Rick Perry attends Bilderberg meetings and attended just this past summer. Who do you think they want you to pay attention to. For those of you who don’t know what the Bilderberg group is just Google it and you will learn. RON PAUL!!!! Is without a doubt the most intelligent, most succinct, most honest, most consistent candidate. Regardless of Republican, Democrat, Liberal, Conservative etc…it doesn’t matter if he was a member of the play dough society he would still have my vote and about 125million other votes. Ron Paul, go team go!!!
Posted by: LFR (Let Freedom Ring) | September 8, 2011, 10:17 pm 10:17 pm
Ron Paul will fix this county. Its time to start listening. The media is going to ignore him and brush him off as “over the top” and “radical”. He can fix our country. He is a libertarian.
Posted by: Andrew | September 8, 2011, 10:39 pm 10:39 pm
RON PAUL WON AND HE WILL ALWAYS WIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: roach | September 8, 2011, 11:21 pm 11:21 pm
Hey, just curious, but how’s the cost of living up there in Massachusetts? Strange how salaries seem to be higher in areas that cost more. Cost of living is fairly low here in Texas, so our “minimum wage jobs” go a lot further than they would in states like Massachusetts. But we actually have a lot of high paying jobs, too, if you’re skilled enough to obtain one. And how about those taxes!?? I suppose when they’re taxing you to death, it’s only right that they “give” you healthcare. Taxes are pretty low here, and my employer pays most of my healthcare.
By the way, I saw an article recently that indicated a lot of people were leaving Massachusetts. That’s weird, because half the country seems to be moving to Texas. In fact, more people moved to Texas in the last 10 years than any other state. You’re losing a congressional seat next year, right? That’s a shame. Texas is GAINING…what was that again? Oh yeah, 4 seats. I don’t get it. You’d think if things were so great up there in Massachusetts, the scenario would be reversed. Anyway, I suppose if your unemployed are leaving Massachusetts and entering Texas, it makes sense that our rate would be slightly higher than yours.
I will admit, though, that Perry is a tool, but so is Romney. Ron Paul would be my choice, but the media acts like he’s not even in the race. Too bad Marco Rubio isn’t running, because he would win the Republican nomination, and the Presidency. But I guess it’ll be good for him to get through at least one term in the US Senate before he runs.
Posted by: Robert from TEXAS | September 9, 2011, 12:37 am 12:37 am
OMG … Ron Paul is going strong. Evasive actions now ..
The eyes are open. You can see the scum playing out their role to indoctrinate you as much as they can. They need another industrial elite fan member in the white house. Just don’t do it !!!!!…
Ron Paul is there. Bachman is mentioned, Romney, Perry, Ginrich, Cain and Huntsman are mentioned. One of the best running candidates, Ron Paul, is NOT mentioned. The shame is growing. See the candidate that says “we the people”. Don’t fall for MSM.
Posted by: Danny | September 9, 2011, 2:10 am 2:10 am
Perry represents the ‘fringe, extremist element’ and Romney what is ‘left’ of the the middler elerment. LOL….The ONLY interesting story of the next election (in my opinion) is HOW the GOP will destroy itself. Akll this ‘debate’ (LOL) was about is who could ‘appeal’ to the fringes the best by ‘bashing this President’. That….won’t WIN them anything in the bigger picture.
Posted by: CND FOX | September 9, 2011, 7:47 am 7:47 am
The winners were not MSNBC or the commentators. What a joke they are… I hope they ask the Demos if they can sleep at night with all the abortions they vote for and fund killing millions of babies daily.
Posted by: Freedom | September 9, 2011, 10:04 am 10:04 am
Ron Paul is THE ONLY one who is for the people! Hands down he’s been the most honest and wise over everyone else, Ron Paul will definitely get my vote!! RON PAUL 2012!
Posted by: darin | September 9, 2011, 10:42 am 10:42 am
Ron Paul definitely.
Posted by: darin | September 9, 2011, 10:44 am 10:44 am
Ron Paul is once again completely ignored by the media. He shows up, speaks his mind, and often makes sense when the others are lacking, yet to the media he is the invisible man.
Corporate America now rules our nation by controlling who we hear, what we hear, and by telling us what we think.
Posted by: James B. | September 9, 2011, 11:27 am 11:27 am
Why don’t you mention Dr. Ron Paul? In the MSNBC poll following the debate, he won in a landslide, garnering twice as many votes as his nearest competitor. Candidates such as Bachman and Perry claim to support the Tea Party, but the Tea Party was founded on principles that Dr. Paul has been trying to teach Americans for decades.
Posted by: Myrtok | September 9, 2011, 1:12 pm 1:12 pm
Romney, Cain, Perry, Gingrich, Santorum and Bachman left me assured that they would keep us overextended militarily for another half a decade. Though it seemed a bit odd that most of the candidates were in favor of putting up a wall during a debate in the Reagan Library. One of the most famous results of Reagan policies was tearing down a wall around a failed social experiment.
Posted by: Brian | September 9, 2011, 1:23 pm 1:23 pm
They were carefull to word this in a sneaky way to ingore Ron Paul. THAT is ovious. ABC news just got downgraded in my book.
Posted by: tito | September 9, 2011, 1:53 pm 1:53 pm
Yet in all the online polls, viewers say Ron Paul won the debate.
Posted by: jonboy1 | September 9, 2011, 2:26 pm 2:26 pm
Ron Paul is the best
Posted by: Joe Serrales | September 9, 2011, 2:29 pm 2:29 pm
Ron Paul or Bust – enough said.
Posted by: Baba Padmanabhan | September 9, 2011, 7:13 pm 7:13 pm
According to this board:
- There are a lot of Ron Paul supporters and the good Dr. Is getting hosed
- The liberal media is pushin Mitt Romney down people’s throats.
The liberals would be dancing in the streets and laughing till next fall if the GOP nominated either Paul or Perry. These politicians are far too radical to be elected. Sorry, that’s just the truth. If the mainstream media is pushing Romney then they are doing the Democrats a huge disservice. If the liberal media held as much sway as the reactionary right believes they do, Huntsman would have way mover than a single digit poll number and Barack would have a poll number over 50. It always boggles my mind that the party of pulling yourself up by the bootstraps and accepting the educational and corporate power structure for what it is(I’m talking about the end of affirmative action), is constantly playing the whiny victim when it comes to the media.
PS- I’m an independent and Romney was cearly the sharpest.
Posted by: Jwheeler | September 9, 2011, 10:13 pm 10:13 pm
Ron Paul! period!! look at how many posts on your comments say Ron Paul and then compare that to how many times your pitiful article mentions his name. DO YOU HEAR US LIBERAL MEDIA??? RON PAUL RON PAUL RON PAUL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: Laura | September 10, 2011, 8:23 am 8:23 am
Ya know maybe the American people should just stay at home this election.Let the great media complex do all the electing.I mean it would save a lot of energy.It has gotten to the place where the media is like our long lost parents.They come in knowing what is best for you.Act like they are concern.Then twist the arm of UNCLE SAM to get it taking care of.Take a lot of patting their self on the back.Then get gone again. I need a solid role model . I need RON PAUL.I am sick of the media.Do your job and report the news.
Posted by: jack | September 10, 2011, 10:52 am 10:52 am
Funny, after seeing anothe ABC news article that actually mentioned Ron Paul, I thought that they would actually mention him in this one. How foolish of me.
Even though they got it right about saying that the organizers were trying to make it a two man show, ABC still is on board with the rest of Corporate Media in that they totally ignore Ron Paul. The funniest part of the whole circus is that according to the MSNBC opinion Poll, on: Who won the Republican debate at the Reagan Library, Ron Paul has received more votes than all the rest of the field combined. He received more than three times what Perry or Romney received.
Can YOU imagine what Ron Paul’s popularity if Media actually reported on him and his ideas in an impartial manner????
Posted by: Steven | September 11, 2011, 12:24 am 12:24 am
RON PAUL WON, ignore all you want, but be aware, this man will end up a winner regardless!!!! his ideas are the only rational ones that i heard in a long time, he makes sense, and i only listen to him, go RON PAUL 2012!
Posted by: adrian | September 11, 2011, 4:07 am 4:07 am
Ron Paul period. Deny all you want mainstream media. What are you so afraid of? He is by far the way mainstream america thinks. Stop pitching your Romney and Perry bullcrap and report events as they are for once in your lifetime. Make a real difference,vote RON PAUL.
Posted by: TRA | September 12, 2011, 8:44 am 8:44 am
Google “koch brothers exposed”, see who controlling the tea baggers
Posted by: Don | September 12, 2011, 9:47 am 9:47 am
I enjoyed this debate very much. It was amusing. They were all good IMO I believe Romney won this one, and he had a good time doing it.
Posted by: CUpson | September 12, 2011, 2:14 pm 2:14 pm
Ron Paul is the winner even when they do not let him speak. Even ABC is trying to make it look like Perri and Romney are the leaders (god forbid) At least the majority of reputable sites are showing Paul winning both polls and in the lead with 59% of the vote. Let watch this grow as people realize this country is in trouble and we need Ron Paul otherwise we are doomed for sure.
Posted by: Jake Jasson | September 13, 2011, 8:53 am 8:53 am
Why is Ron Paul never mentioned? He is an excellent choice.
Posted by: Shelly | September 13, 2011, 8:56 am 8:56 am
The losers were the American people. The GOP candidates all present a frightening picture of a future Third World America, with low-wage jobs, a corrupt do-nothing government, and citizens proud of their own ignorance.
Posted by: james joseph | September 13, 2011, 12:48 pm 12:48 pm
Bottom line…Herman Cain iand Ron Paul are the only best candidates out of the bunch.
Posted by: Eric | September 13, 2011, 10:20 pm 10:20 pm
You know what? I think it’s time to either boycott the mainstream news (cnn, msnbc, abc, etc) or sue the pants out of them!!!!! This is blatantly obvious that the media is purposely leaving out Ron Paul!
Posted by: Leo | September 22, 2011, 3:28 am 3:28 am
Ron Paul 2012
Posted by: singley9 | September 23, 2011, 12:10 am 12:10 am
RON PAUL 2012 theres no other choice
Posted by: jayjay83 | September 23, 2011, 3:58 am 3:58 am
Obama is another Jimmy Carter, only worse … Dr. Ronald Paul is another Ronald Reagan, only better! Dr. Paul wins the debate hands down!
Posted by: Bill Zimmerly | October 19, 2011, 1:21 am 1:21 am
Dear ABC, The REAL STORY is RON PAUL! ABC loses credibility on this page and in this story by dodging the obvious. Maybe people are beginning to wake up? It’s about time we had a true leader we can really believe in. In this, Ron Paul stands alone and consistently unafraid to speak the truth. I’m registering republican to support Ron Paul!
Posted by: Honest Joe | November 1, 2011, 12:37 pm 12:37 pm
RON PAUL!!! ALL THE WAY! So Sick and tired of these shills on these comment boards…I have been to 10 Polls and ALL of them have RON PAUL WINNING…Yet the media keeps up the lies, and then ignores him hoping the public will eventually believe he doesn’t exist. it’s sooooo obvious whats going on, and its all going to backfire.
My daughter and her friends are all voting for Ron Paul and they never had a interest in voting before. Good to see the young people getting involved
Posted by: Wideawake088 | November 10, 2011, 2:39 am 2:39 am
Lol! Main stream media keeps trying to get Romney and Newt put them on center stage and then talking and back and forth Romney / Newt and Romney/Newt. Everybody knows Ron Paul the most consistent and honest politician and he would beat Obama easily with no baggage. Nothing to attack him on there. They all look like squabbling amateurs next to Paul with his in depth answers how come they didn’t ask him in detail on foreign policy there he would really educate you.
Posted by: b | December 10, 2011, 11:13 pm 11:13 pm