Sep 6, 2011 12:19pm

Double Standard? Romney, Perry Grew State Payrolls as Governor

The two leading contenders for the Republican presidential nomination — Texas Gov. Rick Perry and former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney — have cast themselves as foot soldiers in the war against government workers.

Romney has criticized President Obama for presiding over an “unparalleled” expansion of the federal workforce that he would see rolled back, while Perry has insisted altogether that it’s not the place of government to create jobs.

Yet both men have presided over substantial additions to state government payrolls at taxpayer expense during their tenures as governor, a review of historical employment data found.

When Romney took office in January 2003, the Massachusetts state government employed 112,000 workers, according to the state Department of Labor and Workforce Development.

Four years later, the ranks of Massachusetts state employees had grown by 3,000, or a 2.6 percent increase.  (Over the same period, nonfarm employment grew just 1.2 percent.)

During Perry’s decade-long tenure in Texas, the state workforce has also blossomed, climbing from 328,800 in December 2000 to more than 377,600 in July 2011, a net gain of 48,800 state government jobs, according to the Texas Workforce Commission.

The more than 14 percent expansion of Texas state government under Perry far outpaces private sector job growth of 9.7 percent in the state over the same period.

As for Obama, the ranks of the federal government have swelled during his administration, though not by significantly more than they did under his predecessor, George W. Bush.

Between January 2009, when Obama took office, and August 2011, the federal government has added a net 137,000 jobs, or a 6.6 percent expansion of the workforce.  During Bush’s second term, the ranks grew by 114,000 jobs, or 5.8 percent.

More than 2.2 million Americans worked for the federal government as of August 2011, excluding postal workers.

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The charge of an “unparalleled” expansion of the federal workforce just isn’t true. Republicans give numbers for the federal employees hired in Obama’s first two years and they neglect to say that nearly all of those hires either replace someone who retired or left federal service or were hired to in-source some function that Bush out-sourced. So the net change in federal employmnet has been a very small percentage.

Posted by: Greggw | September 6, 2011, 12:39 pm 12:39 pm

“The more than 14 percent expansion of Texas state government under Perry far outpaces private sector job growth of 9.7 percent in the state over the same period.”

But it is far below the grown in the state’s population since Perry took office, which has been over 20%.

Pretty lousy hack journalism trying to make Perry look bad – not even a good argument. Of course, if the payrolls had shrunk, I’m sure you’d criticize him for that too.

Posted by: Bobby | September 6, 2011, 12:44 pm 12:44 pm

They were both FOR IT before they were AGAINST IT.

Posted by: Bob | September 6, 2011, 12:50 pm 12:50 pm

Please, Devin don’t confuse us with facts. It gives us a headache. We just want to be happy in our hatred of Obama and our love for anything that the GOP does.

Posted by: Jim | September 6, 2011, 12:51 pm 12:51 pm

ABC news is a leftist rag and the main Obama cheerleader. They just want to make Perry and Romney look bad. The Republican voters will NOT be swayed by facts. HA! This is just too pathetic to be funny anymore.

Posted by: MsT-mac | September 6, 2011, 12:56 pm 12:56 pm

So the net change in federal employmnet has been a very small percentage.———————-Federal employees are at the lowest level per capita since JFK . When are we going to start drawing down the military ? They are Federal employees and the military keeps getting bigger and bigger and bigger, more soldiers and more expensive soldier toys .That is where all the $$ is going . We need easier access to education , it needs to be emphasized and rewarded by law , while there is less pushing what in reality is a right wing an ideological campaign which works hard to get impressionable ignorant kids to join into the right wing military , this indoctrinating them for life as right wing military loving voters . It’s an ugly , and dangerous cycle that , in a most insidious manner , enables the US to be the most militaristic nations on the planet , and one of the most aggressive as well . It’s no coincidence either .

Posted by: kimmnyf | September 6, 2011, 12:57 pm 12:57 pm

Posted by: Bobby | September 6, 2011, 12:44 pm 12:44 pm
************************* If you want to go by percentage of the population then the federal govenment has not kept up with population growth since WWWII. The federal workforce percentage of US population is the smallest it has ever been right now. Besides, your numbers are highly suspect. If the XT population has increased by 20% and job growth was 9.7%, then TX would have added 9.3% to unemployment. I’m annoyed by the poor math skills in this country.

Posted by: Greggw | September 6, 2011, 12:58 pm 12:58 pm

Posted by: Marc | September 6, 2011, 12:56 pm 12:56 pm

********************** You misread my post. I said the claim that the federal workforce has increased dramamatically is false.

Posted by: Greggw | September 6, 2011, 1:02 pm 1:02 pm

Well Kimmnyf, might I remind you that we have two wars Afghan and Iraq and Obama has gotten us into Libya and sneaking us into others in the ME. I think we need our military—while another regular government bureacrate I don’t think we do need.

Posted by: RedistributionisAnotherwordforSTEAL | September 6, 2011, 1:06 pm 1:06 pm

Oh give me a break ABC, this is a smutt article to discredit good presidencial candidates and nothing more! A certain and minimal amount of increase is to be expected especially since BO has caused major unemployment issues. Give us national averages while trying to discredit people please. Not only have states had to hire people to deal with the massive unemployment BO has caused but they also had to hire more assistance for social services that comes along with all the unemployment

Posted by: Soni | September 6, 2011, 1:11 pm 1:11 pm

Why is it that any story not flattering to the right is considered to be propaganda from the “liberal media” while stories that are unflattering the left are met with cheers and jeers? And btw, today there was a story about how poorly Obama is doing in the polls and how he is losing his base. So, please don’t tell us that the only stories the media runs are anti-right.

Posted by: plantain_11 | September 6, 2011, 1:22 pm 1:22 pm

Note also that Romney failed to put the required money into state pension funds during a strong economy – much like an employer not sending your FICA taxes into the IRS – except it’s legal at the state level. That way, Romney could (falsely) brag that he kept down state spending. Meanwhile, the state pension funds fell to 62% of full-funding during Romney’s administration – leaving future taxpayers to pick up over 1/3 of the costs of past pension liabilities as well as 100% of future liabilities. Of course, the far-right blames that on “greedy unions” and obscures the fact that most union pensioners get LESS than 1/3 their working salary after 30 years of work while the Romneys and Perrys get much more in pension from the state – both in % and absolute terms – for fewer years.

Posted by: The_Mick | September 6, 2011, 1:28 pm 1:28 pm

I notice that readers who disagree with the FACTS posted accuse those posting the FACTS, they resort to name calling. It has nothing to do with bringing anyone down. It’s the FACTS and if you’re going to vote for someone why would you ignore the FACTS. If what is being said is true, that’s no one’s fault but the lying politician who purports otherwise. Are these people mad because the truth has been exposed and they don’t want to admit that they are backing someone who isn’t perfect? There isn’t a politician out there who tells the entire truth. They spin and twist what they think people want to hear. The truth is the truth. Get over it.

Posted by: carole | September 6, 2011, 1:30 pm 1:30 pm

The headline says it all for the ALL BARACK CHANNEL (ABC). What hypocrisy to champion civility in every speach but then not condemn your No. 1 lobbiest for Hoffa’s commenst yesterday. That’s a double standard but does the ABC headline state that…No. Just another liberal slant and neglecting other news worthy stories that may paint the democratic party in a negative light. I’m a conservative democrat; social liberal/fiscal conservative that believes in a strong national defense. however, ABC is trending toward MSNBC this election cycle with a blatant agenda of supporting Obama at all costs.

Posted by: John in VA | September 6, 2011, 1:33 pm 1:33 pm

The lack of factual honesty among conservative candidates is fairly typical of their collective smoke screen of past elections. Consider the misguided lack of humanity and compassion of the Hoover administration which led the way to the great depression, and to untold misery and suffering. Voters need to realize that corporate dishonesty and greed are monumental compared with the the flaws of democratic-liberal leadership in government. Increase in government employment, whether State or Fedeal only reflects increasing awareness of the need of the people, which corporate America will never supply, given their authorization to abuse the people that conservatives try to give it.

Posted by: Ernie Ager | September 6, 2011, 1:34 pm 1:34 pm

Thank you, Plaintain_11. You said what I wanted to say but without all the errors. Short, sweet and to the point. : )

Posted by: carole | September 6, 2011, 1:35 pm 1:35 pm

It’s good to know conservatives will always get on some story to let me know if it’s approved by them or some hit piece. This basically appears to boil down to one thing. If it’s flattering that MSM is doing it’s job. Finally. If it’s not flattering they’re after them. Today there are two different articles where they’re switching back and forth on this.

Posted by: Secondlook | September 6, 2011, 1:36 pm 1:36 pm

KIMMNYF, They are Federal employees and the military keeps getting bigger and bigger and bigger, more soldiers and more expensive soldier toys .That is where all the $$ is going .

Yea lets jump right in and start unemploying others while there is a huge employment problem. We might as well let them work in the military rather than have BO just throw them a check. For heavens sakes. You know its people like you that are going to be responsible for America not being able to handle more terror attacks because we are going to be vunerable when this happens if we listen to you and others that think its a waste!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Soni | September 6, 2011, 1:36 pm 1:36 pm

Those upset with the “liberal slant” of ABC need to move on to more “GOP friendly” reporting, i.e., Fox News. Why read this “liberal rag” when you don’t have to. It’s a free country and you can read anything you like, so why do you continue to torture yourself with the ABC site? Maybe because they bash everyone equally. Yep. Unlike Fox News, the hits go both ways. I’m a liberal — dirty word in the GOP — and I think ABC news provides a fair and balanced account. If they didn’t, then they wouldn’t be posting any stories where Obama is sinking in the polls. Just because you disagree doesn’t mean you have to resort to name calling. Terrible manners you GOP people have. It’s your way or the highway. United we stand, Divided we fall — remember that.

Posted by: carole | September 6, 2011, 1:42 pm 1:42 pm

you need to compare the states’ health in it’s entirety. Romney grew government the least of the three WHILE having a fabulously low employment ratio, and Mass is STILL lower unemployment than bot hTexas and federal average (7%) WHILE having the top schools in the country (Texas has the worse schools in the country) the highest standards of living (while Texas leads the nation in child poverty and highest percentage of jobs at minimum wage level) and Mass had 98% of it’s residents on health insurance WHILE having great paying jobs (where as Texas has one of the lowest accesses to health care for it’s citizens). in that time Romney also brought our bond rating way up and attracted many new businesses to move here creating great paying high quality jobs. So whatever our state government grew, it didn’t hurt our budget or strain our schools or healthcare system. Not so true for both Obama’s and Perry’s governments. Romney did a far far far better job than either Perry or Obama. Fact.

Posted by: whoopstheydiditagain | September 6, 2011, 2:03 pm 2:03 pm

Thank you, WHOOPSTHEYDIDIITAGAIN, for providing factual information to back up your opinion. I would not vote for someone from Texas just because the state is such a mess. The only person who seems to benefit from living in Texas is the governor.

Posted by: carole | September 6, 2011, 2:10 pm 2:10 pm

LMAO!……. Well, well…. those “smaller government” folks (Republicans) aren’t really “smaller government” folks. …. LOL. Anyone who’s deeply studied Reagan and Bush # 2 already knew this.

“Smaller Government” ……. a line that Republicans use whenever they’ve lost the White House.

“Fiscal Conservative” …… another line that Republicans use whenever they’ve lost the White House.

“I am not worried about the deficit. It is big enough to take care of itself.” (Ronald Reagan, speaking at the Gridiron Club annual dinner, 24 March 1984) …………………………. The line Republicans use AFTER they get the White House back (by this time, Reagan deficits had grown to an average of $150 billion per year in comparison witht he $58 billion per year under Carter).

“Deficits don’t matter, Reagan proved that.” (Dick Cheney, December 2002) ……………………….. Another line Repbulicans use after they get the White House back.

LOL!

Posted by: Georgie_Bushie | September 6, 2011, 2:15 pm 2:15 pm

who cares …even my die hard liberal friends in the San Francisco bay area are saying ANYBODY but obama. most of them cite his inexperience at anything in the private sector and zero leadership experience.
i wish HILLARY would jump in.

Posted by: catman | September 6, 2011, 2:32 pm 2:32 pm

First I wish Hillary would jump in. Second: None of these candidates, Romney, Perry, Backman, etc. have a clue. All they are doing is bashing back and forth but none of them have any real solutions…this has been going on for decades. All I know is when Pres. Clinton was in office I had 8 years of good times!

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Posted by: Jack Knepley | September 6, 2011, 2:34 pm 2:34 pm

You know its people like you that are going to be responsible for America not being able to handle more terror attacks because we are going to be vunerable when this happens if we listen to you and others that think its a waste!!!!!!!!———————–It’s frightened hobbits like you who don’t deserve the freedom you have . Letting the military grow to stupid proportions is just that , stupid. The USA could downsize the military by 20% and we would be no less safer . What good did all that big shiny military hardware do on 9/11 anyway ? They didn’t do squat until AFTER 3000 Americans were dead . We can always quickly build up the military when/ if it is REALLY necessary , but to keep building up and spending BIG $$ we really don’t have on something that needs using regularly to work well ( in this case the US military ) is not really the best long term plan for this , or any nation. A big expensive military laying around getting rusty is exactly what leads directly to a big need to use that military , check it out , make sure it works , etc. . . Sometimes such countries who build up big unwarranted military dynasties ( historically ) have even become aggressive , starting wars for profit. Could that happen here? Duh…

Posted by: daveykole | September 6, 2011, 2:37 pm 2:37 pm

To all the liberals: Please post to this board ONE example of any civilization in history that continues to prosper under the brilliant model of unabated growth of a centralized government (diminishing personal liberty). Hint: There are none.

Posted by: s | September 6, 2011, 2:59 pm 2:59 pm

DAVEYCoLE: The USA could downsize the military by 20% and we would be no less safer . What good did all that big shiny military hardware do on 9/11 anyway ?
But unemployment would be at 29+%… Some military jobs is more than shooting a weapon Skippy and requires more than so so brains, for instance Intellegence in our military force is something you dont just apply for it takes actual mental stability and an IQ over 50. We do not have a draft so it may take a decade to build up our forces and stabilize it. Before you go calling someone a Hobbit maybe you need to know a little more about the military than they shoot guns!

Posted by: Soni | September 6, 2011, 3:04 pm 3:04 pm

What’s funny about Perry is that although he claims to be for “Smaller Government”… LOL! …. his state comes in number 2, of the 50 states, to receive the most money from Obama’s stimulus, i.e., the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act. …… Texas received $17 billion in stimulus dollars. ….. LOL!… Typical Republicans, you gotta watch them. They say something out of one side of their mouths to attract the uninformed / uneducated (i.e., “I’m a smaller government guy”), and then with their followers distracted by what they’re saying, they’re hands are reaching for that federal coffer “Cookie Jar”.

Posted by: Georgie_Bushie | September 6, 2011, 3:08 pm 3:08 pm

DAVEYCOLE: Sometimes such countries who build up big unwarranted military dynasties ( historically ) have even become aggressive , starting wars for profit. Could that happen here? Duh…
Talk about a fear Hobbit

Posted by: Soni | September 6, 2011, 3:13 pm 3:13 pm

When Republicans run for office and have no alternatives to the programs being implemented by the incumbent administration, they always attack “big government” as t he reason for the woes of the country. This time around, if it wasn’t for government, we probably be in the middle of a Depression. Demand in the Market for goods and services is high, but, not for the price businesses are charging. There is money in the country, but, it is not creating jobs. The Republican model does not deal well with these issues. Their model is geared to make the rich richer and this is not what we need. The Rich is richer thanks to 10 years of Republican administration prior to the Obama Administration. Our country went from having a surplus to a deficit caused by war and irresponsible tax cuts. Republicans running for office want to reduce the labor force in government and add to the already high unemployment. This action will only have the effect of reducing wages so that the Rich can earn their profitability goals with less products and services in the market place at their price instead of what the consumer can afford to pay….

Posted by: TheTrue2 | September 6, 2011, 3:38 pm 3:38 pm

But it is far below the grown in the state’s population since Perry took office, which has been over
20%. POSTED BY: BOBBY || SEPTEMBER 6, 2011, 12:44 PM******************Sorry Bobby, your
Data on percentages is incorrect. The state grew to just over 17% and a good portion were
outsourced state workers. LOL!

Posted by: michael | September 6, 2011, 4:23 pm 4:23 pm

President Obama is to give a speech on Thursday on revitalizing our infrastructure, by repairing bridges and highways? With millions of illegal aliens in construction, through criminal Contractors using cheap labor, is Obama going to enact Rep. Lamar Smith’s bill H.R. 2164? Is the People’s president going to halt this travesty of our laws, by enforcing E-Verify.

Don’t think for one minute your job is not in peril. Not for one moment should you think that the lowest income of the job market, is only sucked up by illegal aliens. Some of the 20 million plus illegal aliens squatting here, have graduated to higher paying jobs in all industries and occupations. They are not just mowing a lawn, or a bus boy in a restaurant, as they have been hired into manufacturing jobs, in construction, the higher entertainment industry employment as Casino workers. Hundreds of thousands have been accepted into trade unions, taking jobs from electricians, air conditioning and plumbers. Countless number of American citizens and green card holders, have forfeited their businesses as other Contractors have underbid their work by using illegal aliens, so that many dependable companies have been unable pay their insurance, taxes and living expenses. These are not isolated cases, as the epidemic has spread nationwide as the theft goes on?

The issue of illegal immigration is a very serious situation, which not only affects jobs, but the economy as well. Last year’s appraised the cost of subsidizing a part 20 million or more illegal migrants and immigrants was $113 Billion dollars. This has exposed the federal and State payouts that cover the main expenditures of education, health care and the penal system. This is just a limited assessment by the well known conservative think tank of the “Heritage foundation.” The issue of illegal immigration is boiling over between Governor of Texas Rick Perry and Mitt Romney, who must find middle ground on this ugly situation, that grown in intensity over three decades. Rick Perry has a poor D- grading of on this controversial subject that affects us all, then even Mitt Romney also has a poor showing of D-. Neither presidential politician has shown any intensity in fighting the illegal alien invasion. America will always accept highly skilled occupational professionals, but not the poverty-stricken desperate from around the world. Every year a million enter this sovereign country, using fraudulent ID to gain welfare and public assistance, including semi -skilled that shouldn’t be admitted to profit businesses with lower wages, when American have the same qualifications?

Whereas, Rep. Michele Bachmann comes first in all Immigration stances, as does the millions of people that have joined the TEA PARTY. Rick Perry doesn’t support the fence, separating our country from the unceasing invasion of economic illegal aliens from the South. Perry also opposed a standing military presence along the border, as exactly the same as the Democrats and President Obama. Rep. Romney’s speech to the Republican Hispanic National Assembly didn’t mention illegal immigration, but carefully exhibited in his speech “that he was great proponent of legal immigration.” he also said in his speech, “Our country must do a better job of securing its borders and as president, I will. That means completing construction of a high-tech fence and investing in adequate manpower and resources.”

Make your calls starting today at every reluctant Senator and House Representative. Tell them you want them to vote for Lamar Smith’s sponsorship of H.R. 2164, The Legal Workforce Act, as each party has its own agenda. The Republican establishment agenda is to crush any law which cuts off their access to cheap labor. The Democrats and its Liberal placement, is to gain millions of new voters–LEGAL or ILLEGAL. Start calling because it might be your job on the line, with an estimated 8 million in jobs right now. American blacks have had had a terrible time locating good jobs, with national unemployment hovering around 10 percent and black males unemployment surging to a staggering 17.6 percent, followed closely by Hispanics at around 13.1%, while illegal aliens seem to have held jobs, with 0ver 8 million still hired. Use your mouse and click on the Judicial Watch website and read the disgusting statistics on corruption in Washington and the State where you live? Read the daily national and rural newspapers and media reports on the whole seething articles at the “American Patrol” website, illustrating the facts on this ugly dilemma of illegal immigration occupation.

Posted by: Dave Francis | September 6, 2011, 4:58 pm 4:58 pm

Double standard? This cannot be stated about Romney or Perry without knowing more. How much did the population of MA and TX grow while they were/are governors? The same level of services cannot be provided to a growing population without adding government workers. That is why it should be no surprise that the number of federal government workers grew under both Bush and Obama. The US population grew. Duh!

Posted by: savethemiddleclass | September 6, 2011, 5:20 pm 5:20 pm

S | SEPTEMBER 6, 2011, 2:59 PM 2:59 PM Posted: “Please post to this board ONE example of any civilization in history that continues to prosper under the brilliant model of unabated growth of a centralized government (diminishing personal liberty).”

What makes you think the United States of America is currently a model of “unabated growth of a centralized government”?

No matter what social and economic system is put in place, some percent of children will be neglected, some people will have horrible accidents or diseases, some people will be born less intelligent or capable – all leading some citizens into poverty. There will always be unexpected weather disasters, contagious diseases, and environmental problems.

Consequently, there are certain situations which are best served by common government, common interests, common actions. This isn’t the “evil” of socialism. It’s why our nation is called the UNITED States of America.

In Libertarian GOP-land, there is no calculation for how much suffering is a worthy trade for the extra “personal liberty” THEY would experience by eliminating government social programs or agencies such as the Center for Disease Control, the EPA or the FDA. Is that how the Tea Party defines “patriot”? Me, my, mine first and the rest of you can go fish?

Posted by: green.goddess | September 6, 2011, 6:25 pm 6:25 pm

I don’t think the Tea Party has claimed either of these as a Tea Partier, but the media sure likes to make out whomever the front-runner is at the time as the Tea Party candidate and then claim hypocrisy, but we’re supposed to believe the media isn’t promoting a political agenda….

Posted by: TexBork | September 6, 2011, 11:47 pm 11:47 pm

The bottom line is if they are for small Government why didn’t they cut the number of state employees while in office? Along the same line as Republican-tea Party members of Congress insistence we don’t have money for anything and we have to cut entitlements. That being said why don’t the millionaire members forgo their pay and medical for the good of the country….because every penny counts?

Posted by: focusonjobs1 | September 7, 2011, 12:18 am 12:18 am

So in the last 4 years of Bush’s presidency fewer federal employees were added than in Obama’s first 2 1/2 years. I suspect the differences would be more striking if the comparison was with Bush’s first 2 1/2 years. Poor reporting ABC. The data shouldn’t be difficult to find.

Posted by: free_2_choose | September 7, 2011, 1:24 am 1:24 am

Come on, we all know that the republicans are hypocrites. LOL!!!

Posted by: justuspofolks | September 7, 2011, 7:03 pm 7:03 pm

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