Obama Pitches Jobs Bill: ‘No Games, No Politics, No Delays’

Obama Pitches Jobs Bill: ‘No Games, No Politics, No Delays’
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The Pitchman aka Car Salesman in Chief should look up the psychologists’ term “projection.”

I bet this plan is shovel-ready!

I would like to see how this plan is “paid” for and have that backed up by the CBO.

Telling my bank that I can pay back my loan b/c i told my wife to make some cuts to her spending habits, isn’t the same as “paid for”.

“Larry and Oliver . . . not even a shred of substance or discussion of merits and strengths of the plan in your comments. Just the regular attack politics of the Republican right. Cute.”

Those SOBs!

This uber-urgency to pass it, much like the first failed “stimulus” should put EVERYONE on watch. Let’s pass it to find out what’s in it. NO THANK YOU, Barack. Congressmen/woman–please do your job and protect the People from anymore destructive spending tricks by this administration.

as long as its oppurtunity for all americans not just the 20% that are unions.. currently the bill is all about unions. nuff said

Pass This Bill Today…….Obama

The new late night TV pitchman…Operators are standing by

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.. currently the bill is all about unions. nuff said

Posted by: catman | September 12, 2011, 12:55 pm 12:55 pm

Hogwash. Over half of the bill is payroll tax breaks for employees and employers and has nothing to do at all with union or non-union.

our public servants in Congress could discourage offshoring of jobs by passing legislation to tax companies that do so, and give tax credits to companies that hire Americans – you know, millions who are out of work and whose taxes already subsidized the very SAME multinationals that shipped jobs overseas.

Senate Democrats tried this idea last year (Senate bill 3816).

Republicans blocked it.

Posted by: green.goddess | September 12, 2011, 1:11 pm 1:11 pm

Republicans call for corporate tax breaks almost every day. It’s ironic how they sit on their hands when it comes to small business and middle class tax breaks. Americans better start paying close attention to who’s on the American peoples side and who’s only on the side of multi-national corporations. When GOP politicians inject the term “the American people”, they are only talking about corporate America. They fight against employee rights, employee benefits and anything that may help employees and mom and pop businesses. They don’t care about true small business otherwise they would have voted for the bill in 2010 that was a loan bill specifically FOR SMALL BUSINESS!! They ALL voted against it! Don’t you get it?? The GOP are in the pockets of people like the Koch brothers. Joe the plumber need not apply!!

Posted by: dan | September 10, 2011, 12:38 am 12:38 am

“Meanwhile, back in the real world, 14 Million Americans need jobs NOW. Enough stonewalling.”

Posted by: green.goddess | September 12, 2011, 1:11 pm 1:11 pm

You run a business. Why aren’t YOU creating new jobs that pay a family wage with generous benefits? Who’s stopping you?

$447 billion? Here’s a stimulus, have a $447 billion “American Gift Act”.
Pres Barry could give $1 million dollars (tax-free) to 8,940 people in each state in the United States. Yes, each of the 50 states would award 8,940 people one million dollars each. That’s right, give $1 million dollars to 447,000 people!!
These new wealthy consumers could buy 447,000 new cars and new homes and other products that consumers buy that have $1 million tax free dollars. These new millionaires could still even invest 30-40% of their $1 million into mutual funds, bonds, stocks that potentially helps most every business in the economy.
Pres Barry could even buy a few hundred thousand votes and make a higher percentage of the winners from the fields of teaching, police, firefighting and road/bridge construction employees.

Posted by: Chuck | September 12, 2011, 1:34 pm 1:34 pm

Still using the phony date of January 2009 as a way of measuring the improvements brought by Obama’s stimulus?

Phony, phony, phony.

When Obama took office the economy had been losing hundreds of thousands of jobs every month, month after month and this momentum continued for months after Obama took office.

His policies began to really take hold after the ARRA began to be implemented. By the fall of 2009, the downward trend had been halted and began to reverse. From that point on, jobs have been added almost every month and the economy has grown for 18 straight months.

Your use of the January 2009 is a hoax intended to blame the results of the free-fall economic collapse on a President who had barely walked into office.

Is this the moral and logical integrity the right wing brings to an appraisal?

You run a business. Why aren’t YOU creating new jobs that pay a family wage with generous benefits? Who’s stopping you?

Chuck, I think if you don’t create new jobs, you should be punished for not doing so. But let me know if you need a loan, say $500 million? You make solar panels, right?

“The president continued to assert that the $447 billion price tag would be “fully paid for” if the bill is enacted in its entirety.”

This statement is flat out false. A lie that even the most leftist political advocate should recognize. Directing others to come up with a way to pay for your plan, a way that would most likely not even be enforcable done the road (outyears as they say), is not fully paid for.

“The audacity of this man knows no bounds. He has shown zero acumen in handling this economic crisis, but apparently he now has all the answers and he has deemed congress to be his mere servant and not a legislative body. No debate, no changes, nothing, just pass it now because I said so. Can’t wait to be rid of this problem come 2013!”

JR, he took care of his pal George Kaiser. That was an economic concern. As was paying of Wlaa Street and making sure GE pays no taxes. The End.

Oh come on. Apply a little balance and fairness – Rumsfeld ‘lost’ 2 billion dollars in the Pentagon just before 9/11. Bush, Cheney and Halliburton ‘lost’ 9 BILLION dollars in Iraq.

That’s a total of $10 BILLION simply ‘lost’ under the Bush administration.
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So you voted for a DINO. Get over it.

“If ARRA worked so well, then why don’t you have a job?”

Chuck, for all we know, Peter Orszag is making those comments. Or maybe Jeffery Immelt.

If ARRA worked so well, then why don’t you have a job?

Posted by: Chuck | September 12, 2011, 2:00 pm 2:00 pm

As is often the case, when the right wing starts to lose the discussion they resort to the personal innuendo or insult. Juvenile and negative.

“By the way, it’s something the Republican administration under Bush NEVER did with the two wars or the seniors’ drug program.”

Is that some sort of admonishment that is supposed to make me realize my mistake in pointing out Obama’s lie because Bush did it??? I spoke out against the prescription drug plan, no child left behind and Bush’s reluctance to reign in his spending. So please go try your “he did it too” arguments somewhere else.

And this sort of thing is not common in government. I have never heard someone speak of a program being fully paid for without those taxes or spending cuts being laid out in the bill itself.

Senator Sessions had some pretty spot on comments about this “plan” and the recent debate over the debt ceiling. To paraphrase he called it incredulous that Obama would look to borrow $447 billion that will hit the books next year after Congress and the President just agreed to $7 billion in cuts for next years budget. This “plan” will do nothing for the private sector, it will not change our economic situation (with the exception of getting us into deeper debt), and will only serve as an offering to Obama’s union base.

“As is often the case, when the right wing starts to lose the discussion they resort to the personal innuendo or insult. Juvenile and negative.”

Posted by: Todd | September 12, 2011, 2:06 pm 2:06 pm

I didn’t lose the discussion. Your response confirmed I was right.

Posted by: Chuck | September 12, 2011, 2:15 pm 2:15 pm

Another juvenile response. Grow up.

Posted by: Todd | September 12, 2011, 2:19 pm 2:19 pm

Get a job.

Posted by: Chuck | September 12, 2011, 2:25 pm 2:25 pm

Back to the personal insults?

Posted by: Chuck | September 12, 2011, 1:34 pm 1:34 pm

Still using the phony date of January 2009 as a way of measuring the improvements brought by Obama’s stimulus?

Phony, phony, phony.

When Obama took office the economy had been losing hundreds of thousands of jobs every month, month after month and this momentum continued for months after Obama took office.

His policies began to really take hold after the ARRA began to be implemented. By the fall of 2009, the downward trend had been halted and began to reverse. From that point on, jobs have been added almost every month and the economy has grown for 18 straight months.

Your use of the January 2009 is a hoax intended to blame the results of the free-fall economic collapse on a President who had barely walked into office.

Is this the moral and logical integrity the right wing brings to an appraisal?

“Is this the moral and logical integrity the right wing brings to an appraisal?”

Sadly, yes. And they seem to work at the WH right under Obama’s nose:

NEW YORK (CNNMoney.com) — The White House said Friday it expects that unemployment will stay at or above 9% until 2012, but at the same time forecast that the economy will grow by at least 4% in 2011 and 2012.
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I hope the economy grows too. Odd how an economic growth would not drop unemployment though…Then again these are the same guys who thought this:

“Solyndra LLC’s workers making solar-power panels in a California factory subsidized by U.S. taxpayers showed “the promise of clean energy isn’t just an article of faith,” President Barack Obama said on a visit to the company in May 2010.

Democratic Representatives Henry Waxman of California and Diana DeGette of Colorado said in a letter Sept. 8 that Harrison assured them in a meeting less than two months ago that the company was in a “strong financial position.”

Anyone who signs on to this second piece of garbage, should be tried for treason.

For 100 years the liberal party of this country fought the Republican party on integration. KKK was founded by members of the Democrat party. Not too long ago a number of their members served in the Congress of the United States. But conservatives are always labeled “extreme”!

YOU KNOW IT IS TRUE: “Anyone who signs on to this second piece of garbage, should be tried for treason.”

TODD: “There you go with the extremist language again.”

I would argue those hell-bent on destroying our country via extreme debt and government burden are the extremist. If you had asked our founding fathers, who envisioned a limited government, the extremists are liberals like you.

I would argue those hell-bent on destroying our country via extreme debt and government burden are the extremist

Posted by: Anonymous | September 12, 2011, 3:18 pm 3:18 pm

Your ‘hell-bent on destroying the country” is another extremist statement.

By the way, you’ll be going back through many decades and many governments, many of which were Republican – all apparently “hell-bent on destroying the country”.

By the way, you’ll be going back through many decades and many governments, many of which were Republican – all apparently “hell-bent on destroying the country”.

From the capitalis “Wikipedia” site. Republicans indeed:

William Charles “Bill” Ayers (born December 26, 1944)[1] is an American elementary education theorist and a former leader in the movement that opposed U.S. involvement in the Vietnam War. He is known for his 1960s activism as well as his current work in education reform, curriculum, and instruction. In 1969 he co-founded the Weather Underground, a self-described communist revolutionary group[2] that conducted a campaign of bombing public buildings during the 1960s and 1970s, in response to U.S. involvement in the Vietnam War. He is a retired professor in the College of Education at the University of Illinois at Chicago, formerly holding the titles of Distinguished Professor of Education and Senior University Scholar.[3] During the 2008 US presidential campaign, a controversy arose over his contacts with candidate Barack Obama.

“Billy Ayers adopted a policy of ‘no human lives harmed’ ”

Barry hosted a state dinner for hu jintao. Remind us of hu’s policy on human lives.

“By the way, you’ll be going back through many decades and many governments, many of which were Republican – all apparently “hell-bent on destroying the country”.”

Apparently. You have evidence to the contrary?

Posted by: foggy | September 12, 2011, 3:50 pm 3:50 pm

Go talk to Nixon and every president since . … they’re the ones who paved the road to China for America. Of course, that was just ‘business as usual’.

todd, yeah, i see your point. since the republicans totally stink, it’s okay for obama to mostly stink. hooray!

Comrade Foggy, an excellent reminder for Fellow Travelers in the US! Mr Jintao himself is very knoweldgeable of the use of Soviet-inspired and designed equipment.

“Some diplomatic analysts linked what they saw as Hu’s brutal use of force to the suppression of activists and students at in Tiananmen Square, which took place a mere three months later. Whether Hu provided “inspiration” for the PLA on June 4 is a matter of debate, but it was clear that Hu’s actions in Lhasa earned him unprecedented attention in the upper echelons of party power, including paramount leader Deng Xiaoping. When tanks rolled into Tiananmen Square, Hu was one of the first regional leaders to declare his support for the central authorities.[17″

“Of course, that was just ‘business as usual’.”

And it still is. Awesome!

“The same forces that work for every small U.S. business Chuck. Customers. When we have projected business activity that justifies, we hire.”

Posted by: green.goddess | September 12, 2011, 3:53 pm 3:53 pm

That’s just a lame excuse. You should do what you’re asking others to do. You should hire new employees even if you don’t need them. And you should pay them a family wage with generous benefits. And you should also take out a large loan to hire these new workers even if you can’t afford it. Where’s your compassion?

TODD: “Your ‘hell-bent on destroying the country’ is another extremist statement.”

That’s just a reflection of the extreme debt and government burden we are dealing with. When government owes the amount our whole country produces in a single year, it’s time to start worrying. You liberals only worry when your benefits are threatened. Without an growing, healthy economy, no one will get anything, let alone your coveted benefits. And, you liberals demand more of what ails us.

TODD: “By the way, you’ll be going back through many decades and many governments, many of which were Republican – all apparently ‘hell-bent on destroying the country.’”

Nope, they aren’t responsible for spending so much during such a poor economic period that it slowed our recovery, just like the New Deal slowed recovery during the Great Depression. Not to mention, national security is a much more noble goal than growing government and its entitlement programs. Only thieves and fools believe that government moving money from one group to another produces anything. This inefficient redistribution actually makes real production more expensive.

When it comes to spending money, whatever government can do, free people can do better. That’s why the government doesn’t spend all of our money, like they do in other less free and less well-off countries. Free people and free markets are what makes us unique and is the reason for our relatively quick success.

Republican Eric Cantor, the House majority leader is having a fit at the prospect of paying for President Obama’s jobs proposal by limiting the deductions claimed on the tax returns of wealthier taxpayers. He doesn’t want a “massive tax increase on job creators.”

LOL! As if wealthier taxpayers were creating jobs other than Republican election campaigns.

Even Karl Rove said it was time for comprehensive tax reform – Americans want more than austerity – we want to know what steps Republicans will take to create more jobs and greater prosperity. Sorry Mr. Cantor, a decade of tax advantages for the wealthiest and laissez-faire deregulation did not create new jobs.

Hello America, do you recall the last time Obama wanted a speedy healthcare bill? he and Nancy Pelosi bullied through the congress their Obamacare fiasco, now most of us instead of having healthcare coverage, we are now the proud owners of a $5000 dollar deductible. that is what speedy legislation got us last time so say no to Obamas wateful spending plans. sincerely Fezzy Bear

Only thieves and fools believe that government moving money from one group to another produces anything.

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A strong endorsement for stopping the ridiculous Ryan Budget proposal all the Republicans endorsed. It redistributes large amounts of wealth by big tax giveaways to all the usual Republican beneficiaries while going on to pay for it all by trying to substitute a ridiculously inadequate voucher program in place of Medicare, which benefits working class Americans. It’s a scam of epic proportions, and the voting public should take them to task for supporting it..

ANONYMOUS: “Only thieves and fools believe that government moving money from one group to another produces anything.”

SKIP: “It redistributes large amounts of wealth by big tax giveaways to all the usual Republican beneficiaries . . .”

You mean the people that earned the money to begin with? There’s no redistribution involved in that case, Skip. Any other scams you’d like to try out on us? Like I said, thieves and fools . . .

“A strong endorsement for stopping the ridiculous Ryan Budget proposal all the Republicans endorsed. It redistributes large amounts of wealth by big tax giveaways to all the usual Republican beneficiaries while going on to pay for it all by trying to substitute a ridiculously inadequate voucher program in place of Medicare, which benefits working class Americans. It’s a scam of epic proportions, and the voting public should take them to task for supporting it..”

Nothing says Republican beneficiaries like George Kaiser.

SKIP: “They haven’t forgotten that the Republicans went to Washington in 2000 . . .”

. . . they implemented the Bush tax cuts that raised us from the recession inherited from Clinton as well as the poor economic conditions that followed the 9/11 attacks, also partially due to Clinton.

SKIP: “Try try try, . . . historical revisionist’s words.”

The iron grip the government had on our housing market for the decade leading to its collapse is impossible to erase from the pages of American history, regardless of how many liberals blame our freedoms on their failed central-planning. The American people sure didn’t forget last year — and they won’t next year either!

Hope and change, anyone? Didn’t think so!

llo America, do you recall the last time Obama wanted a speedy healthcare bill? he and Nancy Pelosi bullied through the congress their Obamacare fiasco, now most of us instead of having healthcare coverage, we are now the proud owners of a $5000 dollar deductible. that is what speedy legislation got us last time so say no to Obamas speedy wateful spending plans. and, can Mitt Romney delver 11.5 Million new jobs? well we know that Barrack Obama cannot deliver even one job, so what hope does Romney have of delivering 11.5 Million Jobs? I would say highly unlikely. so the better solution is to repeal Obamacare, roll back Federal Payroll deductions to 1940′s levels, eliminate most, most of the unneccesary Federal Pork barrel programs, such as Shrimp Treadmill research, recover the $60 Billion dollars unaccounted for given to Afghanistan and Iraq rebuilding, redue the 1040 form and make it fair for everyone. those are the most logical solutions, so please contact your congressman or woman and have them say No to anymore Obama Bailouts and No to a $400 Billion Dollar speedy package. sincerely Fezzy Bear

And the government was dominated by Republicans and Republican policy during that time. The assertion that the Republicans let the Democrats set policy is comical at best. More tales.from the right-wing frontier.
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Those Republicans Dodd and Frank!

Skip, we really had no problems until Pelosi, Reid and barney took over. They have just gotten worse since Obama joined them.

“And only thieves and fools believe Republican government policy doesn’t move money from one group to another, and we all know who.”

US funds to Solyndra. Republican fingerprints all over it…Good catch, Skip!

US funds to Solyndra.

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You’re complaining about hundreds of millions of dollars, not good, but a mere pittance compared to the hundreds of billions of dollars the Republicans have redistributed with their tax policies.

“You’re complaining about hundreds of millions of dollars, not good, but a mere pittance compared to the hundreds of billions of dollars the Republicans have redistributed with their tax policies.”
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No, not good, not good at all Skip. And why would Obama sign that tax cut bill for the rich, much less can the EPA reg very recently? But I have an idea: As a Democrat, I’ll only waste $500 million per failed “green” company.” And I’ll close Gitmo. Do I have your vote?

Why is more government the problem to too much government again?

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We had this debate before and you were soundly defeated. In wikipedia alone there are several very credible references to government deregulation of the housing and financial markets as being the cause of the crisis, while you were unable to cite even a single reference in your favor, See, there just aren’t enough low income borrowers in this country to account for the size of the housing bubble.

“government produces nothing” — Anonymous

Actually, capitalism and the free market are gov’t inventions– gov’t produced. And so is legislation, driver’s licenses, the military, police and fire departments, public schools and the infrastructure commerce uses. Those who don’t like government say it produces red tape and inefficiency. Others say it produces property rights and patents.

What is definitely untrue— gov’t produces “nothing” unless by nothing you mean the rule of law, trade agreements, infrastructure, war… and the free market.

ANONYMOUS: “Again, only thieves and fools believe that government moving money from one group to another produces anything.”

SKIP: “And only thieves and fools believe Republican government policy doesn’t move money from one group to another, and we all know who.”

Again, the people who earned it to begin with? Nothing is ‘moved’ when the money stays with those who earned it.

You have to love how liberals lay claim to money they never earned. Again, thieves . . .

–Republicans saw the need to reform Freddie and Fannie, as know-better Democrats obstructed. Fools!–

Dodd was no fool, but he did get caught:

In his role as chairman of the Senate Banking Committee Dodd proposed a program in June 2008 that would assist troubled sub-prime mortgage lenders such as Countrywide Financial in the wake of the United States housing bubble’s collapse.[26] Condé Nast Portfolio reported allegations that in 2003 Dodd had refinanced the mortgages on his homes in Washington, D.C. and Connecticut through Countrywide Financial and had received favorable terms due to being placed in the “Friends of Angelo” VIP program, so named for Countrywide CEO Angelo Mozilo. Dodd received mortgages from Countrywide at allegedly below-market rates on his Washington, D.C. and Connecticut homes.[26] Dodd had not disclosed the below-market mortgages in any of six financial disclosure statements he filed with the Senate or Office of Government Ethics since obtaining the mortgages in 2003.[27]

Dodd’s press secretary said “The Dodds received a competitive rate on their loans”, and that they “did not seek or anticipate any special treatment, and they were not aware of any”, then declined further comment.[28] The Hartford Courant reported Dodd had taken “a major credibility hit” from the scandal.[29] At the same time, the Chairman of the Senate Budget Committee Kent Conrad and the head of Fannie Mae Jim Johnson received mortgages on favorable terms due to their association with Countrywide CEO Angelo Mozilo.[30] The Wall Street Journal, The Washington Post, and two Connecticut papers have demanded further disclosure from Dodd regarding the Mozilo loans.[31][32][33][34]

On June 17, 2008, Dodd met twice with reporters and gave accounts of his mortgages with Countrywide. He admitted to reporters in Washington, D.C. that he knew as of 2003 that he was in a VIP program, but claimed it was due to being a longtime Countrywide customer, not due to his political position. He omitted this detail in a press availability to Connecticut media.[35]

On July 30, 2009, Dodd responded to news reports about his mortgages by releasing information from the Wall Street Journal showing that both mortgages he received were in line with those being offered to general public in fall 2003 in terms of points and interest rate.[36]

On August 7, 2009, a Senate ethics panel issued its decision on the controversy. The Select Committee on Ethics said it found “no credible evidence” that Dodd knowingly sought out a special loan or treatment because of his position, but the panel also said in an open letter to Mr. Dodd that the lawmaker should have questioned why he was being put in the “Friends of Angelo” VIP program at Countrywide: “Once you became aware that your loans were in fact being handled through a program with the name ‘V.I.P.,’ that should have raised red flags for you.”[37]

–Republicans saw the need to reform Freddie and Fannie, as know-better Democrats obstructed. Fools!–

And Barney? A gambler…

In 2003, while the ranking Democrat on the Financial Services Committee, Frank opposed a Bush administration proposal, in response to accounting scandals, for transferring oversight of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac from Congress and the Department of Housing and Urban Development to a new agency that would be created within the Treasury Department. The proposal, supported by the head of Fannie Mae, reflected the administration’s belief that Congress “neither has the tools, nor the stature” for adequate oversight. Frank stated, “These two entities …are not facing any kind of financial crisis … The more people exaggerate these problems, the more pressure there is on these companies, the less we will see in terms of affordable housing.”[62] In 2003, Frank also stated what has been called his “famous dice roll”:[63] “I do not want the same kind of focus on safety and soundness [in the regulation of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac] that we have in the Office of the Comptroller of the Currency and the Office of Thrift Supervision. I want to roll the dice a little bit more in this situation towards subsidised housing.”[64]

Obama’s leadership is like flatulence, impossible to see, stinks, and hopefully will be gone quickly. How can you ally yourself or fight that which you cannot see? This is Obama for you. He is the worst kind of snake oil salesman. He sells you prosperity and its really slavery. He says he will lead you to an oasis of jobs and he leads you to a mirage and sand. He will not tell you the truth as its ugly and will cost him his re-election.

Again, when you rely on free people to grow their economy based on real market conditions

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Again, the Republicans DEREGULATED the housing and financial markets.

SKIP: “Yes, using nothing more than his imposing personality Barney stopped the Republican majorities in their tracks….Barney Frank roared, and the Republicans scattered.”

Republicans didn’t have a super-majority to break the Democrat filibuster. While Bush did wrongly continue the disastrous Clinton housing policy, Republicans saw the need to reform Freddie and Fannie, as know-better Democrats obstructed. Fools!

Of course he wants them to hurry and pass it, before they can read it, the American people can find out whats really in it and the CBO can score it – can’t have a pesky thing like reality get in the way of the same thing he’s said over and over again.
From what I’ve seen and heard this does little to help bring jobs back and is likely going to hurt far more than help.

Same old song and dance from mister no solutions BUT TAXES!

SKIP: “Again, the Republicans DEREGULATED the housing and financial markets.”

It was an increase in banking regulation that required them to loan to those with low-income and bad credit that led to the housing collapse, not deregulation.

When you can blame free people, their freedoms, and their free market to increase liberal government, why let such a crisis go to waste, right, Skip?

SKIP: “Government provides valuable services and government spending to provide those services boosts economic activity.”

Please, Skip. Tell us how moving money from one group to another produces anything? This is always good.

Posted by: Private Eye | September 12, 2011, 5:04 pm 5:04 pm

So do conservatives approve of or disapprove of the Texas Emerging Technology Fund (“Rick Perry’s Crony Capitalism Problem “)? And what do they think of the fact that Rick Perry’s former chief of staff, Mike Toomey, was a lobbyist for Merck, the manufacturer of the HPV vaccine mentioned during the last GOP presidential debate? Didn’t he also he push for the creation of the Trans-Texas Corridor (TTC)? If I remember correctly, Perry gave the development rights to a Spanish company, Cintra, and lo and behold, his former legislative director of went to work for Cintra.

But, never mind, you were talking about Halliburton, yeah?

Tell us how moving money from one group to another produces anything?

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Look up “economics”. It’s all about transactions for goods and services.

“government produces nothing, as related to growing an economy.”

So how can Romney and Perry talk about their job creation numbers and what they’ve produced/crerated/accomplished as governors? Governors are gov’t and they produce nothing. Nada. Right? According to your worldview?

If we focus solely on private sector numbers, that really only leaves Cain and Romney as viable candidates, yeah? Career politicians like Bachmann, Perry, Paul, etc are … what? Certainly not good candidates or credible on production or job creation, yeah?

“No games, no politics, no delays.” – President O’Bama

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W O W !
What a diplomat!
Barry is sure to unite Congress around this ground breaking legislation, especially since he wants to raise taxes to pay for the Waste-o-Money™.
Gee, you’d think the only way he could get taxes raised is with a Bill that tries to Balance to Budget but not our Barry.
He’s so special in so many ways.
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“No Way” – American People

Make the Republicans clearly state their choice: tax breaks for millionaires, or a job for YOU. Corporate jet deductions for Paris Hilton, or a job for your kid. Tax breaks for Exxon-Mobil, or a job for your husband or wife. Tax breaks for billionaire hedge fund managers, or jobs for poor and middle class Americans. Make them go ON RECORD, in clear and plain English, WHAT their opposition is. THEN America can decide whose agenda is better for this country…………

SEARAMBLER: “Make the Republicans clearly state their choice: tax breaks for millionaires, or a job for YOU.”

Except the choice you present is false. The real choice is tax breaks or no job for you, as government doesn’t create jobs or anything else as it redistributes money from one group to another. In fact, the government loses the people’s money by doing this.

SEARAMBLER: “THEN America can decide whose agenda is better for this country . . .”

We already did last year. Where were you? We’ll do it again next year.

Aw, Anonymous…. lol, lol, lol. A couple of the brighter people in the debate made the same point I did– these governors have been talking about creating jobs and they didn’t create them and they aren’t responsible for them. I was pointing out what hypocrites they are. But Newt saved them a bit last night. You didn’t with this convoluted explanation.

I like your b.b.b.b.b.b.b.ut let me think of some way to defend them thing, hahahahahaha, but you didn’t do a very good job. You did manage to fit in a whine about those durty libruls though. hahahahahahahaha.

ANONYMOUS:

What about defense spending, do you think it creates jobs or are you going to tell all the defense contractors, suppliers and support agencies that they really don’t work and draw paychecks? Your argument is not grounded in any facts or what is real or isn’t real