Sep 10, 2011 2:46pm
On Politicians Calling Lincoln the Founder of the Republican Party
Email“He gives a good speech, but he’s loose with the facts. He called Abraham Lincoln the ‘founder’ of the Republican Party. Nope. Lincoln was not the founder of the party; he wasn’t even the first Republican nominee (John Fremont was, in 1856). Lincoln was, of course, the first Republican to be elected president.”
- Jay Carney, TIME Magazine bureau chief, on Mike Huckabee’s GOP Convention Speech, September 3, 2008
“We all remember Abraham Lincoln as the leader who saved our union. Founder of the Republican Party.”
- President Barack Obama, address to Congress, September 8, 2011
Hat tip to Byron York.
– Jake Tapper
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So what!!!!!!!!!!!! My gawd it must be a slow news day, when they print garbage like this………..
Posted by: Searambler | September 10, 2011, 3:16 pm 3:16 pm
I knew from my previous post that i would force the media to acknowledge Obama was ignorant on facts……. they have tried to cover this up and PBS has gone as far as to change the transcript…What a pathetic l left wing Media we have
Posted by: Yep I said that | September 10, 2011, 3:17 pm 3:17 pm
Thanks Jake.
Posted by: Rafe | September 10, 2011, 3:38 pm 3:38 pm
So, it’s no longer BLAME BUSH for OBOZO’s screw-ups, it’s BLAME HUCKABEE !
Posted by: TeaPartyPatriot | September 10, 2011, 3:57 pm 3:57 pm
Well, obviously Obama needs to be impeached because of this.
Posted by: SearamblerOne | September 10, 2011, 4:19 pm 4:19 pm
I hear Obama is preparing his resignation speech over this…………
Posted by: SearamblerOne | September 10, 2011, 4:20 pm 4:20 pm
Well, that’s it. He just lost my vote because of what he said here.
Posted by: SearamblerOne | September 10, 2011, 4:21 pm 4:21 pm
Crack me up. Don’t know what’s funnier– the gaffe as reported or the hysterical responses by people trying to convince us that The One should never ever be criticized or even teased, as other presidents have been routinely since time immemorial. Thanks for pointing this out, Jake! Lighten up, Francis, er, Searabmlerone
Posted by: moderate | September 10, 2011, 4:24 pm 4:24 pm
It’s not the first time “facts” out of Washinton DC are wrong and it won’t be the last. Just pass the bill that doesn’t exist yet and we’ll work out the details later, you know, like health care reform – we still have no idea how much it will cost or how we pay for it. I’m just like JFK and the other greats – I command it be done without any knowledge of how it can be accomplished but, golly gee it sure sounds good. Gotta go now it’s time for a beer meeting.no, it’s time for basketball, no, it tee time, yea, then traveling the Country to say how bad the other party is, follwoed by another vacation for R & R..
Posted by: Tired of Idiocy | September 10, 2011, 4:25 pm 4:25 pm
But Bush! But Reagan! But Palin! But Bachmann! But Norquist! But the Tea Party! But the Koch Brothers!
Posted by: Kimberly | September 10, 2011, 4:41 pm 4:41 pm
So because the president misspoke (again) that MUST make him a complete ditz, idiot, dunderhead, bozo, dunce, and/or moron who is unfit to be president, right? That seems to be the standard used by the liberals when talking about ANY of the Republican presidential candidates.
Posted by: s | September 10, 2011, 4:42 pm 4:42 pm
Bahahahaha!!!!!! The hits just keep coming…..
Posted by: Allen | September 10, 2011, 4:47 pm 4:47 pm
How can anybody possibly think this matters?
Posted by: JOEHILL | September 10, 2011, 5:29 pm 5:29 pm
But Bush! But Reagan! But Palin! But Bachmann! But Norquist! But the Tea Party! But the Koch Brothers!
Posted by: Kimberly | September 10, 2011, 4:41 pm 4:41 pm
Why is it whenever certain commenters appear and start with the adhominem attacks and false claims about knowing personal information about me, my name gets used to do poor parodies of my posts. I bet if the moderators checked they’d have the same IP number.
Posted by: Kimberly | September 10, 2011, 5:49 pm 5:49 pm
RNC: Abraham Lincoln helped establish the Republican Party with a speech denouncing an 1854 law, written by a Democrat Senator, that allowed slavery to expand into the western territories. Two years later, he co-founded the Illinois GOP. Lincoln was runner-up for the 1856 Republican vice presidential nomination and then became a Republican nominee for the U.S. Senate.
It was a gaffe, but not that much of a biggie.
Posted by: Kimberly | September 10, 2011, 5:53 pm 5:53 pm
GOP must be getting desperate if this is what they’re coming up with.
/not a democrat
//not voting for obama
///republicans have gone insane, not voting for them either
Posted by: Jason | September 10, 2011, 5:58 pm 5:58 pm
/not a democrat
//not voting for obama
///republicans have gone insane, not voting for them either
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Posted by: Kimberly | September 10, 2011, 6:05 pm 6:05 pm
I am a Lincoln/Kemp Republican. It’s 150 years ago in Chicago this year that Abraham Lincoln, the founder of the Republican Party, accepted the Republican nomination for President of the United States. — Rep. Mike Pence (R-IN)
Immigration was a core belief of a founder of the Republican party, Abraham Lincoln. — Mayor Rudolph W. Giuliani (R)
Though Lincoln was the founder of the Republican Party, to liberals and advocates of civil rights Lincoln was in that pantheon along with FDR as one of the heroes of liberalism and American democracy. — James Pierson on National Review
George W. Bush is not a Goldwater Republican — he’s a Lincoln Republican. Like the founder of the Republican party, Bush doesn’t mind spending money on his priorities, and he doesn’t mind doing some of this spending with borrowed money. — Jerry Bowyer, National Review
It is a pleasure for me to address you upon the day when this club and our countrymen of all faiths throughout the land are paying tribute to the memory of Abraham Lincoln. We tonight also pay tribute to him as founder of the Republican Party and the inspirer of its ideals. — President Herbert Hoover (R)
It was — it was, in fact, the founder of our party, Abraham Lincoln, who reminded us that a government that can do everything for us is the government that can take everything from us. — Gov. Mike Huckabee (R-AR) 2008 RNC Speech
NOW WHO IS WRONG????!!!!!
Posted by: mshare | September 10, 2011, 6:19 pm 6:19 pm
And me. I always thought that the Republican Party had founders, rather than a single founder, and that one of them was Lincoln. I guess I’m an idiot.
Posted by: JOEHILL | September 10, 2011, 6:39 pm 6:39 pm
I give Tapper credit for being the only MSM network journalist reporting this. A big deal was made out of Palin’s Paul Revere remarks, and Bachmann’s geographical difficulties. Would be nice if the media gave the same concern about history when uttered by a Democratic president.
Posted by: Amazed_476 | September 10, 2011, 7:03 pm 7:03 pm
LOL! This is so funny. It’s alright when a Republican says this nonsense. As a matter of fact, it’s “of course, true” then. But when Obama says it, well, NOW we have a problem!
Posted by: mshare | September 10, 2011, 7:09 pm 7:09 pm
This displays a horrid ignorance of American history that is simply intolerable in a president! He has shamed himself and this nation in the eyes of every school child who knows better and in the eyes of the world! It amounts to shocking outrage that reflects a certain indifference to facts during the preparation of the speech itself and the diffidence of the speaker. In any other person, such a ridiculous remark would be stunning. When a president makes this sort of statement in the course of a major speech in front of an audience of many millions, it is beyond all comprehension!
Posted by: sanfranprof | September 10, 2011, 7:15 pm 7:15 pm
Its time for NASCAR ON ABC.. will Obama be attending?
Posted by: Democrats, the orginal confederate racists | September 10, 2011, 7:16 pm 7:16 pm
sanfranprof — President Hoover said this, Mayor Guliani, and good ole’ Huckabee (a Republican canididate). AS A MATTER OF FACT, the RNC’s WEBSITE SAYS THAT LINCOLN WAS A FOUNDER!!!!! But I certainly DON’T HEAR YOU COMPLAINING ABOUT THEM!
Actually, what this displays is the absolute HYPOCRISY OF THE RIGHT!
Posted by: mshare | September 10, 2011, 7:56 pm 7:56 pm
Posted by: mshare | September 10, 2011, 7:56 pm 7:56 pm
The Hope and Changers don’t exactly have a lot of credibility these days.
Posted by: Chuck | September 10, 2011, 8:12 pm 8:12 pm
Not surprising he is as dumb as a rock. He is the same man that thinks we have 57 states and that the Navy Corps are Corpses….
Posted by: John H | September 10, 2011, 8:14 pm 8:14 pm
You should pass this thought, rightaway!
Posted by: steve | September 10, 2011, 8:42 pm 8:42 pm
Now if M. Balchman made this mistake, we would be hearing about it for the next six days.
Posted by: wasyne | September 10, 2011, 9:34 pm 9:34 pm
Now if M. Balchman made this mistake, we would be hearing about it for the next six days.
Posted by: wasyne | September 10, 2011, 9:34 pm 9:34 pm
If Michele Bachmann made this mistake we could probably assume she heard it from her colleagues at the RNC or perhaps from Huckabee, Pence, Guiliani, etc. (See MShare’s post @ 6:19 pm ) Here’s the information at the Republican National Committee web site, under heroes:
“Abraham Lincoln helped establish the Republican Party with a speech denouncing an 1854 law, written by a Democrat Senator, that allowed slavery to expand into the western territories. Two years later, he co-founded the Illinois GOP. Lincoln was runner-up for the 1856 Republican vice presidential nomination and then became a Republican nominee for the U.S. Senate.”
Posted by: Kimberly | September 10, 2011, 9:47 pm 9:47 pm
Obama is a much better speaker than Conservatives. It’s so much easier when not restricted by the truth.
Posted by: Kal Albi | September 10, 2011, 9:58 pm 9:58 pm
WHO CARES, THEY ALL MISSPEAK . IT ONLY COUNTS IF REPUBLICANS MISSPEAK.
OBAMA WHOLE JOB PLAN IS A JOKE AND HE COULD NOT EVEN GIVE IT TO YOU IN ONE NIGHT. ONLY ONE REASON, IT IS A LIE AND SPREADING THE LIE OUT OVER TIME MAKES IT HARDER TO TRACK.
Posted by: deadwrestler | September 10, 2011, 11:34 pm 11:34 pm
Some of you seem to be missing the point, as I understand it, of the initial post. Its not the president’s minor misstatement that is being critiqued, in my opinion, but an irony that resulted. A reporter took Huckabee to task for making this error in a speech a few years ago. That reporter was the CURRENT PRESS SECRETARY, Jay Carney. To him, at least, it appeared to be a big deal that huckabee had mislabeled lincoln. To me, no biggee. Immediately below the quote from Carney, in which he labels Huckabee “loose with the facts,” there is a quote from Obama’s speech in which he made the same statement as Huckabee. Think Carney is going to seize on his bos’s statement and label HIM “loose with the facts”? Nope, me, neither. I don’t think the point is that the president is a fool for having said it, but that neither was Huckabee. We shouldn’t have a double standard.
Posted by: moderate | September 11, 2011, 8:43 am 8:43 am
If Palin had said this, she’d be called an idiot. When Obama says it, he “misspoke”.
Posted by: TJ | September 11, 2011, 9:22 am 9:22 am
Paylin is an idiot……..
Posted by: Jeff | September 11, 2011, 9:55 am 9:55 am
And to think … Lincoln would be considered downright progressive by today’s GOP standards.
Posted by: yeah.i.said.it | September 11, 2011, 10:24 am 10:24 am
“How can anybody possibly think this matters?”
Apparently liberals do. Apparently Jay Carney did when he took Mike Huckabee to task for saying the same thing about Lincoln three years ago. LIberals even think it matters when someone like Michelle Bachmann gets the birthdate of Elvis and the birthplace of John Wayne wrong.
Posted by: Reggie1971 | September 11, 2011, 11:21 am 11:21 am
“And to think … Lincoln would be considered downright progressive by today’s GOP standards.”
Thinking something doesn’t make it so. For instance, I think calling Lincoln progressive is the dumbest thing I will hear today but I am probably wrong.
Posted by: foggy | September 11, 2011, 11:50 am 11:50 am
I agree with Moderate above. You guys don’t get it…it’s not that Obama or Huckabee got something wrong. It’s the hypocrisy. Jay Carney was quick to jump on Huckabee for making the error, but is silent when Obama says the exact same thing. Carney gonna call Obama loose with the facts? Heh. Yeah, right. The MSM gonna call Carney on it? Heh. Yeah right. Even this article doesn’t “call him on it.” Tapper just posts the quotes. No comment, except giving a Hat Tip to Byron York. Tapper gonna call it to Carney’s face? It would be great, but I doubt it. This is just his way of proving to himself that he’s not partisan. It’s a start, but he has a long, long way to go.
That’s the issue. Not that Obama has to resign because he’s a liar, etc…..
A secondary issue is that Obama, the great Orator, is so dependent on the TOTUS that when he goes off it for even a millisecond he screws it up. How pathetic. That should be embarrassing to the good folks in his party. Of course, they won’t admit that it’s embarrassing, but embarrassing it is nonetheless. Remember when he spoke to the govt. in India and they had to install teleprompters there, and that no one had to use them before that? Remember how some politicians over there even remarked on how our President needed such a device…how they thought he was supposed to be some great speaker? Embarrassing.
This incident just reaffirms that.
Posted by: dydx | September 12, 2011, 12:56 am 12:56 am
Since Obama has a pathological hatred of Republicans, it’s disingenuous for him to try to cite Lincoln anyway.
Lincoln worked to preserve the Union, Obama has worked to divide it by appealing to envy and class hatred. His use of covetousness as public policy is apparently quite acceptable to the religious left.
Posted by: Joe White | September 12, 2011, 8:01 am 8:01 am