Rick Perry, Galileo and Global Warming

Two differences between Galileo and Perry:

1) Galileo was a genius
2) Galileo was right.

Two differences between Galileo and Perry:
1) Galileo was a genius
2) Galileo was right.______________And Perry is a moron and wrong. That explains everything

98% of climate scientists worldwide agree on climate change and it’s cause. 1% are employed by corporations opposed financially to adapting to climate change (oil companies primarily). 1% are reading the same data but interpret it differently. That’s not a consensus, that’s as close to unaniminity as you’ll get among scientists. Perry isn’t even acknowledging the 98% – which he claims is a hoax. If you got opinions of 98 doctors who all agreed you needed surgery would you ignore it if 2 doctors said you didn’t?

The problem is evolution proves Christianity is false. Humans randomly evolving into our current state in a random universe is counter to everything Christianity teaches. Doesn’t matter that evolution is clearly real, a conservative politician saying so is signing their own death warrant.

Perry was ultimately asked what scientists or theories he found enlightening when educating himself on the issue of global warming, but Perry avoided identifying any scientists or theories by turning attention to Texas’ efforts in regulating clean air.

Texas has the most carcinogens in the air of all 50 states, thanks to Perry’s lax environmental regulations on business. Did he mention that? Didn’t think so…..

Amen Duke! I am a chemist and Duke’s analysis is pretty spot on. Frankly within our community, outside of those who work for companies who produce fossil fuels and utilities, the opinion is almost uniform that humans are contributing significantly to climate change (there are almost 7 billion of us, after all). The “debate” within the community is only about magnitude of this change. Except for things validated as scientific laws, this is as close as universal as one is going to get in the scientific community. Frankly there is greater consensus on climate change than on the theory of evolution (macroevolution, not microevolution which is essentially proved) in the community. Far right GOP turned me away from the GOP; I am a moderate who will vote for moderate GOP, but if the choice is between a far right GOP and a far left Dem I will vote for the Dem or just not vote for anyone in that office. Zero chance I can vote for Perry; Romney a different story, but I don’t think the GOP will nominate him.

I remember long ago when the Republican Party was a decent organization. Then they got hijacked by the religious zealots and corporate raiders. What a shame that the only people that can run for office in the GOP are loons who think the earth is only 5k years old, etc. If they ever return to represent the normal person (and by that I don’t mean the beer swilling, barely educated kind) then I will gladly vote for one of their candidates providing I think he can do the job. With the exception of one or two of their candidates, I just have to shake my head and wonder wtf? Sadly, it is most likely that one of the ultra goofballs will get the nod to run.

Earl wrote: “Ice ages and global warming have been going on from the earths begining and the cave men and their dicovery of fire didnt cause global warming either.It is natural and in another cycle we will have another ice age and we cant stop that either.”

I’m curious, Earl. Which conservative state in the Deep South are you from? And how many hours a day do you spend watching Fox “News” and listening to right-wing hate radio?

Like I say, I’m just curious.

“Texas has the most carcinogens in the air of all 50 states” – SeaRambler

That may be due to all of the campfires the Mexican Invaders are burning every night in their Raza to the USA and it’s plethora of free government support such as schooling, food stamps, and medical care.

Rick Perry cannot be an honest broker in this debate. He tipped his mitt back in August when he stated, citing no evidence whatsoever, that scientists are skewing the global warming data in an effort to secure more grant money. If he is willing to make such a scurrilous charge without backing it up, no proponderance of evidence/scientific opinion will ever convince him to question his position.
Also, if anybody thinks Rick Perry would have sided with Galileo rather than the 17th-century Church, there’s a bridge across the Rio Grande for sale taht I would like to show them …

Jim Heath wrote: “It is much smarter to adapt to our environment instead of trying to change it.”

So, we should consciously “evolve?” As in try not to be poisoned by contaminated drinking water? Get over our wussy asthma and respiratory diseases? Cancer, shmancer?

Yow!

Pastor Perry for Supreme Council!

Greg, I was referring to climate change, not the quality of drinking water or air pollution, which have both been greatly improved in recent decades.

Arlette,

It’s good to see thoughtful coverage. I heard the quote last night, and wondered if anyone would be covering this today. Of course Galileo didn’t “outvoted for a spell” by the scientific establishment of the day. Ptolemy lived and died more than a thousand years before Galileo. For 150 years it was conceived that the earth revolved around the sun. Galileo provided the obeservational evidence that demonstrated this, and within a human lifespan Newton provided the mathematics, and Keppler the observations to put this matter to rest.

Galileo was in fact “outvoted for a spell” (imprisioned for the rest of his life, actualy) by conservative, religious men poorly versed in the science of the day, Men exactly like Rick Perry. And that’s what make this story so interesting….

Of course climate change is occurring, the question is how much and why and should we try to stop it? What makes the current climate ideal? Seems like the ecosystem got here through much hotter and much colder periods OK.

Lets not forget the saints of science that gave us pestides and germ warfare?
Why should we deniers and former believers really believe the scientists are not exaggerating and exploiting climate change science when there are tens of thousands of them that don’t march in the streets and ACT like this is the emergency they say it is? What could possibly be worse than a catastrophic climate crisis, a comet hit maybe? Do any of these tens of thousands of consensus climate change scientists have kids too that will die a miserable death by CO2?
NOBODY will now vote YES to taxing the air to make the planet like the inside of an indoor shopping mall. Not going to happen.

Science has been wrong in the past many, many times. But science self-corrects. Religious fanaticism and intolerance never change.

Mememine69, to claim that we shouldn’t listen to scientists because they created germ warfare and pesticides is to forget that our longer lifespans are due almost entirely to science. Vaccinations, anti-biotics, inventions such as safe blood transfusions, dialysis, modern surgery, insulin all matter.
On the subject of global climate change, when I look at the factual proof scientists have collected, learn that 98% of scientists believe man is creating this slow-moving disaster, and listen to the remaining 2% ignore the proof of rising ocean temperatures, earlier melting sea ice each year, glaciers shrinking, stronger and larger storms, I can only come to one logical conclusion.
Everyone should realize while the earth’s climate has changed drastically in its long past, those changes were never sudden, like we are now seeing. They would happen over 10,000 years. We are seeing drastic differences in just my lifetime. We all need to not only pressure our politicians to take action but should on an individual basis try to lessen our output of CO2. Planting trees as carbon sinks, walking instead of driving when possible, ‘bundling’ our errands, turning down our thermostats,etc. all matter to our future and our children’s future.

Governor Perry libels Texas and its citizens when he says that Texas schools teach both creationism and evolution, because it’s a lie. As backwards as Texas is in many things, that is not one of them. Our schools do not teach creationism and do teach evolution.

Like many backwards, anti-intellectual folk, Perry hates experts and their expertise for the truths they tell and which his ilk cannot refute.

• The scientific evidence that Gov. Perry does not understand scientific evidence is overwhelming. I do note, however, that Gov. Perry was able to demonstrate that he knew at least one scientist….Galileo Galilei. Further, I could find no evidence by a web search that Mr. Galilei ever declared that the evidence that human beings are causing global warming was settled. Therefore, Gov. Perry should be given his just due for knowing about Mr. Galilei, an extremely esteemed scientist, who did not ever consider the evidence that human beings are having any effect on global warming as being settled.
I did learn a very good tactic from Gov. Perry that I could use to defend anything that I say. So, please consider these comments as philosophical and not related to what may appear to any reasonable person to be my opinion about a real life issue or person.

ALGORE is my shepherd; I shall not think.
He maketh me lie down in Greenzi pastures:
He leadeth me beside the still-freezing waters.
He selleth my soul for CO2:
He leadeth me in the paths of self-righteousness for his own sake.
Yea, though I walk through the valley of the shadow of reason,
I will fear no logic: for thou art with me and thinking for me;
Thy Gore’s family oil fortune and thy 10,000 square Gorey foot mansion, they comfort me.
Thou preparest a movie in the presence of contradictory evidence:
Thou anointest mine head with nonsense; my fear runneth over.
Surely blind faith and hysteria shall follow me all the days of my life:
and I will dwell in the house of ALGORE forever.

LOL…LOL…look at what Perry is doing. Comparing himself with Galileo??? Him (an undeducated neanderthal) and Galileo an enlightened, educated person. Bad, misrepresented ‘comparison’ Perry. And an equally bad, misrepresented skeptical view of ‘climate change’ and man’s responsibility in that phenomenon.

The only reason Perry would invoke Gallileo is because Perry thinks Gallileo was outvoted because Gallileo was wrong. Essentially Perry was trying to say even the best scientists are sometimes wrong. Infortunately for Perry, Gallileo was right No matter, ignorance is bliss and Perry’s campaign keeps rolling along with followers as ignorant as their candidate.

Could we please, pretty please, allow Texas to secede from the union? It would be such a win-win for everybody!

Ivar Giaever, Nobel Prize winner for Physics, 1973, is one of those who does not believe the current Global Warming Hoax. As he stated in his letter of resignation as a Fellow of the American Physical Society:
“The claim (how can you measure the average temperature of the whole earth for a whole year?) is that the temperature has changed from ~288.0 to ~288.8 degree Kelvin in about 150 years, which (if true) means to me is that the temperature has been amazingly stable, and both human health and happiness have definitely improved in this ‘warming’ period.”

Perry has made some ridiculous statements. My question: Are republicans pandering to what they think is a moronic public or are they morons themselves?