Sep 28, 2011 5:37pm

Too Much Democracy? A Modest Proposal From N.C. Gov. Bev Perdue

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North Carolina Gov. Bev Perdue, a Democrat, caused a bit of a stir this week when she suggested that maybe Americans should call off a round or two of elections and let politicians focus on government instead of getting elected.

It’s not going to happen, of course - the United States has held elections through the Civil War and World Wars and the Great Depression – but it speaks to the general frustration many Americans have with partisanship and gridlock in Washington.

“You have to have more ability from Congress, I think, to work together and to get over the partisan bickering and focus on fixing things,” Perdue said, speaking at the Rotary Club in Cary, N.C. Tuesday. “I think we ought to suspend, perhaps, elections for Congress for two years and just tell them we won’t hold it against them, whatever decisions they make, to just let them help this country recover. …You want people who don’t worry about the next election.”

Her office suggested that the comments were some sort of hyperbolic joke, although she sounds serious on audio posted online.

Read more about Perdue’s comments from the Raleigh News and Observer.

Frustration with partisanship is not new and it is not isolated. Sixty-nine percent of Americans have a negative view of government, according to the most recent ABC News-Washington Post poll.

But Perdue’s suggestion to call off the 2012 general election has been coupled with a recent essay by Peter Orszag, President Obama’s former director of the Office of Management and Budget and a key figure in the passage of Democrats’ health law, and held up by conservative bloggers as part of a s0-called democratic assault on democracy.

Orszag, in an article titled “Too Much of a Good Thing: Why We Need Less Democracy,” said his stint working for the president convinced him that the country’s “political polarization was growing worse – harming Washington’s ability to do the basic, necessary work of governing.”

“So what to do?” Orszag asked in the article, published by the New Republic Sept. 14.

“To solve the serious problems facing our country, we need to minimize the harm from legislative inertia by relying more on automatic policies and depoliticized commissions for certain policy decisions. In other words, radical as it sounds, we need to counter the gridlock of our political institutions by making them a bit less democratic.”

He endorsed a more progressive tax system and Fed-style bodies to deal with everything from tax policy to infrastructure funding.

“I know that such ideas carry risks,” Orszag wrote. “And I have arrived at these proposals reluctantly: They come more from frustration than from inspiration. But we need to confront the fact that a polarized, gridlocked government is doing real harm to our country. And we have to find some way around it.”

The idea that politicians need the ability to govern without so much concentration on politics runs against the whole idea of the U.S. system of government, according to Matthew Spalding, a scholar at the conservative Heritage Foundation.

“We need to get directions from the American people,” he said of elections.

And the government, he said, should not operate exactly like a business. “It was designed so that it wouldn’t react immediately to things. One of the things you want to filter out is the passions of the moment. You don’t want an immediate negative reaction lead to a policy change of great magnitude. It needs to be deliberative. But it s still decisive,” Spalding said.

It’s hard to imagine Sen. Lamar Alexander, the Tennessee Republican, endorsing much of what Orszag suggested and he’s surely unlikely to suggest holding off on upcoming elections. But he is resigning from the Republican leadership in the Senate: He has been the third-ranking Republican senator. He wants to stay in the Senate, but leave the Republican leadership because he said he can get more done for his constituents if he’s an independent voice.
Alexander has vocally supported bipartisan ideas to deal with the long-term shortfalls of Medicare and Social Security. He broke with the Republican leadership on one such proposal earlier this year and has high hopes for the so-called Supercommittee that is drafting a new deficit-reduction proposal.

Watch ABC News’ Jonathan Karl interview Sen. Lamar Alexander

But a top Alexander adviser told the New York Times that the short-term political environment makes it difficult for politicians to show real courage. “If the voters wanted politicians with courage, they’d reward them,” said Mike Murphy, the Alexander adviser, to the New York Times. “Voters punish people who behave like that.”

Alexander is not the only Republican to get frustrated with partisanship. During the last major Congressional debate on comprehensive immigration  reform in 2007, Sen. Trent Lott of Mississippi, then the No. 2 Senate Republican, gave a fiery speech on the Senate floor, trying to goad his colleagues to allow a vote.

“If we can’t do this, we ought to vote to dissolve the Congress and go home and wait for the next election,” Lott said. “This is a time where we are going to see whether we are a United States Senate anymore. Are we men or mice? Are we going to slither away from this issue and hope for some epiphany to happen? No. Let’s, let’s let’s legislate. Let’s vote.” Watch Lott’s Mice and Men speech.

That immigration proposal was defeated on procedural motion. Lott resigned from the Senate at the end of that year. “People are very frustrated with what appears to be partisan gamesmanship,” professor Randall Strahan of Emory University in Atlanta said. “People are right to be frustrated when leaders in the political parties are maneuvering for political advantage. On the other hand, the things that’s working the way it should is that when the voters themselves are divided, the system is set up so that the government reflects that division.

“The fact that things are in a bit of a stalemate right now does indicate that the system is working somewhat,” he said, because the country itself is so divided.

But Strahan rejected Orzsag’s suggestion that tax policy should be ceded by Congress to a special panel and pointed to the Constitutional requirement that tax policy bills originate in the House, where lawmakers are elected more often and by fewer people.

The power of taxation should be firmly in the hands of the house that is closest to the will of the people,”  Strahan said, pointing to the Constitution and arguing that the framers wanted the people to have a “prominent say in the decision to reach into citizens pockets to take their money.”

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And so it has started. Elitist politicians attacking democracy and self government. We will become subjects instead of citizens.
Now you know the reason for the Second Amendment.

Posted by: oonogil | September 28, 2011, 6:43 pm 6:43 pm

Why, ABC, no mention that this governor is one of your beloved freedom and liberty loving Democrats??

Posted by: so what, who cares | September 28, 2011, 6:57 pm 6:57 pm

The left’s mask drops further. Now Perdue joins Peter Orzag and Tom Friedman in calling for the people’s voice to be silenced. Meanwhile their idiot foot soldiers are always claiming the right are fascists. I wonder if Perdue would still feel this was if the Executive and Legislative branches were controlled by the right?

Posted by: Pete | September 28, 2011, 7:02 pm 7:02 pm

Americans have a right to vote for are rights & any one that thinks of taking our rights away should be considered a trader to the U.S. & it’s citizens.

Posted by: todd | September 28, 2011, 7:20 pm 7:20 pm

The only reason Bev’s saying that is because that’s the ONLY way she’d still be in office after the next election.

Posted by: Ann | September 28, 2011, 7:31 pm 7:31 pm

I don’t think this woman understands democracy. In fact, I don’t think she’d recognize it if it jumped up and bit her on the butt, which it will, when she runs for re-election.

Posted by: deedeemao | September 28, 2011, 7:41 pm 7:41 pm

Typical. I remember before the left starting requesting this kind of thing, they blamed Bush for claiming he wanted to do this, when he never did. It was just lie, but the left hangs it hat on this kind of stuff. Just like the draft. I remember when the left was trying to scare the youth into voting for them by saying that Bush wanted to reinstate the draft, when the bill was actually proposed by Charlie Rangel. Same with racism, they project it and then claim their projection a reality when it is they who fight to keep it alive. They claim to be in favor of free speech, but want the right’s free speech controlled.

Posted by: TexBork | September 28, 2011, 7:57 pm 7:57 pm

Bev Perdue has the brains nod a hen. Her comments were so outrageous that she was flooded with denouncements from around the country. Only other radical libs and the press seem to be okay with it. It is why they are both at the nbottom of the barrel of credibility. They both stink.

Posted by: Kala | September 28, 2011, 8:15 pm 8:15 pm

What a dumb thing to say.

Posted by: attitude | September 28, 2011, 9:13 pm 9:13 pm

Does ABC News support suspending elections?Are there any individuals employed by ABC News willing to speak up in support of The Republic?

Posted by: Rasputin3.14 | September 28, 2011, 9:25 pm 9:25 pm

Her remarks border on TREASON, She should be impeached at a minimum

Posted by: Joe | September 28, 2011, 9:25 pm 9:25 pm

and Peter Orzag should be charged with trason. tried and convicted and the Constitutional punishment for trason applied!!!

Posted by: Joe | September 28, 2011, 9:35 pm 9:35 pm

Hitlers wanna be mistress or just a follower of hitler???????…She is proposing Facism in America

RECALL the anti-American governor

OBAMA_________VS________AMERICA

Posted by: Yep I said that | September 28, 2011, 10:11 pm 10:11 pm

It’s both fascinating and tiresome that when a politician is quoted saying something completely preposterous that and they are called on it, their reflexive defense is that they were joking, being sarcastic, engaging in hyperbole, etc. Clearly, Bev Perdue is an individual of limited intellectual capacity but she should be commended for her honesty in wanting every leftist’s fantasy, rule over the masses by fiat.

Posted by: Jack Tors | September 29, 2011, 12:19 am 12:19 am

Somehow all of you idjits missed the point and leapt right to proving it.

The point is that America has become so divided that we need COURAGE and TOLERANCE and AUTOMATIC MECHANISMS to keep us afloat. We don’t need you’re angst, we don’t need your knee jerk reaction to what someone said or if they had a (D) or an (R) beside their name.

But instead of comprehending the points being made by the people on both sides of the political spectrum, you trot out worn cliches of TREASON!

Good job for a group of mouth breathers. Did your ancestors happen to be Buffalo Hunters?

Posted by: DewyB | September 29, 2011, 12:33 am 12:33 am

A right is a right and if you give up the right sooner or later you’ll have no rights. No freedoms, no liberty, and no pursuit of happiness. You will be the slave, no matter what color your skin is.

Posted by: todd | September 29, 2011, 2:05 am 2:05 am

The Democrats just want to become dictators, leaving the people no vote, no voice, and no options.

Posted by: Rick McDaniel | September 29, 2011, 1:42 pm 1:42 pm

“It should be clear by now that my focus here is not freedom of speech or the press. This freedom is all too often an exaggeration. At the very least, blind references to freedom of speech or the press serve as a distraction from the critical examination of other communications policies.” -Mark Lloyd (Obama FCC Czar on controlling free speech) This is an old piece of agenda from Vladimir Lenin who said, “It is true that liberty is precious; so precious that it must be carefully rationed.” There’s a reason the current leftists are saying similar things as the old Marxists and it’s no coincidence. It;s time people compare the two. It will help understand where the left is trying to take the nation and why they look to limit 1st and 2nd amendment rights, use the press as propaganda leverage and a community organizer, and gain further control over the people by debauching the currency to hurt the middle class to drag them down and creating hatred for the rich causing class warfare which will cause the proletariat to rise up to tear the top down, which will collapse the economy. Then the nation can be reborn in Marxism.

Posted by: TexBork | September 29, 2011, 5:06 pm 5:06 pm

I do think we need to do away with the primaries. Let the republicans and democrate have their conventions in August or September, get together and choose a candidte they think can win. These primaries are a waste of money and time. The the only purpose is to increase the advertizing renenue for the media.

Now we have straw polls, caucuses and a bunch of other stupid elections that are meaningless and only used to give the media something to releive the boredom..

Posted by: tferretti | September 29, 2011, 5:58 pm 5:58 pm

tferretti, Um, “Now” we have straw polls, caucuses, and primaries? “Stupid elections that are meaningless”? These aren’t “new” things for “now”. Are you wanting to change the government from a republic to a democracy? Is that kind of where you are going? Do you know why we have straw polls, caucuses, and primaries? It’s kind of important why. Can you tell us why they exist and should be replaced and replaced with what?

Posted by: TexBork | September 29, 2011, 6:50 pm 6:50 pm

What do they mean? You have 1 or 2 percent of the parties registered voters that participate in these straw polls and caucuses that seldom reflect the nominee. A state should just send the number of deligates they are allowed to the convention. Fight it out there to decide the nominee. Thats the way it was designed to work.

Posted by: tferretti | September 30, 2011, 11:54 am 11:54 am

Why, ABC, no mention that this governor is one of your beloved freedom and liberty loving Democrats?? Posted by: so what, who cares | September 28, 2011, 6:57 pm.

The SEVENTH WORD in the FIRST SENTENCE. Geez, some people are thick…………….

Posted by: Searambler | September 30, 2011, 12:03 pm 12:03 pm

Term limits,term limits, term limits,term limits will stop some of this BS in congress. Only term limits, salary reduction, benefit reduction, and require them to abide by and benefit from ONLY what the public recieves, (Social Security, buy their own insurance, NO retirement benefits plus a salary reduction!!!).

Posted by: HB | October 4, 2011, 2:33 pm 2:33 pm

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