Oct 6, 2011 11:41am

Biden: Occupy Wall Street, Tea Party Have Frustration in Common

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Vice President Joe Biden won't let the attacks go on Obama go unanswered, telling a crowd of campaign donors in Tulsa, Okla., that the president has "a backbone like a ramrod."

Vice President Joe Biden today likened the Occupy Wall Street protests to expressions of grassroots frustration by members of the Tea Party.

“Let’s be honest with one another,” Biden told an audience on camera at the Washington Ideas Forum. “What is the core of that protest? The core is: The bargain has been breached. The core is the American people do not think the system is fair, or on the level. That is the core is what you’re seeing with Wall Street.

“There’s a lot in common with the Tea Party,” he said. “The Tea Party started, why? TARP. They thought it was unfair.”

Biden cited Bank of America’s recent decision to impose a $5 monthly fee on some debit card users as an example of new perceived unfairness related to the banking sector that has fueled more popular frustration.

“The middle class folks, these guys with the debit cards, are on their back. And [banks] are going to charge them $5 to use the cards? At minimum, they are totally tone-deaf,” Biden said.

 

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WOW! good to know, Mr. Joe-bite-me. Let’s him talk about Fast and Furious mission, Solyndra bogus stimulus loans for now. We are all ears.

Posted by: acdc2012 | October 6, 2011, 12:00 pm 12:00 pm

BIDEN: “The Tea Party started, why? TARP.”

No, the national Tea Party movement started after Rick Santelli’s rant on the floor of the Chicago Mercantile Exchange where he blasted Obama and Democrats for their Socialist policies. It was the rant heard around the world!

BIDEN: “And [banks] are going to charge them $5 to use the cards?”

Yeah, why did you do that? Your ‘consumer protections’ come at a cost. Nothing is free, no matter how many laws and regulations you pass. Pathetic!

Posted by: Anonymous | October 6, 2011, 12:12 pm 12:12 pm

BIDEN: “The Tea Party started, why? TARP.”

No, the national Tea Party movement started after Rick Santelli’s rant on the floor of the Chicago Mercantile Exchange where he blasted Obama and Democrats for their Socialist policies. It was the rant heard around the world.

BIDEN: “And [banks] are going to charge them $5 to use the cards?”

Yeah, why did you that? Your ‘consumer protections’ come at a cost. Nothing is free, no matter how many laws and regulations you pass.

Posted by: Anonymous | October 6, 2011, 12:12 pm 12:12 pm

BIDEN: “The Tea Party started, why? TARP.”

No, the national Tea Party movement started after Rick Santelli’s rant on the floor of the Chicago Mercantile Exchange where he blasted Obama and Democrats for their S o c i a l i s t policies. It was the rant heard around the world.

BIDEN: “And [banks] are going to charge them $5 to use the cards?”

Yeah, why did you that? Your ‘consumer protections’ come at a cost. Nothing is free, no matter how many laws and regulations you pass. Pathetic!

Posted by: Anonymous | October 6, 2011, 12:13 pm 12:13 pm

Time to nationalize the banks eh Comrade Biden? Based on what Tim Geithner said today I would not be surprised.

Posted by: Denbo | October 6, 2011, 12:14 pm 12:14 pm

WHAAAAAAT???????!!!!!!….. I would say there’s a rather HUGE difference!!! Our politicians have obviously gone off the deep end…maybe we should throw them some bank C.E.O’s filled with hot air to stay afloat.
Go Ron Paul….Ron Paul or Revolution!

Posted by: Herne | October 6, 2011, 12:14 pm 12:14 pm

Dear Mr. Vice President, they have nothing in common, the teaparty did not break laws, they where not FUNDED by Gearge Soros and Moveon.org, nor by any union.

Posted by: Lizzie | October 6, 2011, 12:16 pm 12:16 pm

He speaks the truth when my teabagger relatives started ranting and raving was right after tarp.

Posted by: b | October 6, 2011, 12:17 pm 12:17 pm

Give up your 401k giv e up your 403b, give up your IRA, giveup your sep plan….We want nothing to do with wall street.. the hell with retirement

Posted by: Occupy Wall Street | October 6, 2011, 12:20 pm 12:20 pm

And this comes from a taling head whose son was a big time officer in the Credit card world…..smells a little to me.

Posted by: angus | October 6, 2011, 12:21 pm 12:21 pm

Here comes the dictators………inciting riots in the streets! All they want, is to get dictatorial control of this country.

Posted by: Rick McDaniel | October 6, 2011, 12:22 pm 12:22 pm

Careful Joe! You know what can happen when you open your mouth.

Posted by: newcountryman | October 6, 2011, 12:28 pm 12:28 pm

“Here comes the dictators………inciting riots in the streets! All they want, is to get dictatorial control of this country.”
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Dude, have you seen the OWS gang? Not exactly the kind that I would worry about. At least in Greece they throw a molotov cocktail.

Posted by: Simho | October 6, 2011, 12:29 pm 12:29 pm

Joe you really are a clueless sort. The banks are charging customers because Frank/Dodd limits them charging merchants. Bend over America.

Posted by: newcountryman | October 6, 2011, 12:30 pm 12:30 pm

abc news censors quite a bit. they cant seem to handle the truth that the democrats only hope is to support and create anarchy because they cant run on their own record. this administration started the whole arab spring thing with the vision of carrying it off here in the u.s. james carville spoke about this months ago about bringing the protests here and was quickly stifled and backed off.our foreign policy is in shambles due to supporting egypts arab spring which has changed nothing in egypt other than mubarak leaving.
when you have 48% of the people paying zero federal income tax this is what you get. they want more for doiing nothing. instead of protesting greed eliminate your own greed. isnt it greedy to want something from someone that you didnt earn? anyone who wants more than they have are greedy by definition.thats where the socialist label comes in and for some reason abc doesnt like it.obama and the dems are hoping for anarchy. we all know so why keep denying it.

Posted by: catman | October 6, 2011, 12:32 pm 12:32 pm

@NEWCOUNTRYMAN

Exactly, they add costly regulations and then accuse them of gouging. More hope and change anyone?

Posted by: Anonymous | October 6, 2011, 12:35 pm 12:35 pm

obama and the dems are hoping for anarchy. we all know so why keep denying it.

If so, they should be careful what hope for…

Posted by: Simho | October 6, 2011, 12:35 pm 12:35 pm

I believe Tea Party members want the government to be smaller and more efficent. They believe tax dollars should be used wisely. How is that “movement” anything like the crybabies in Lower Manhattan?

Posted by: s | October 6, 2011, 12:37 pm 12:37 pm

Uncle Joe, you seem like a nice enough guy. Take some advice…just don’t say ANYTHING!

Posted by: newcountryman | October 6, 2011, 12:41 pm 12:41 pm

They continue to show their complete disconnection to the public. The biggest, most glaring difference here is that the “tea parties” were funded, created, and transported by the Koch Brothers through their minions like Trent Lott, Haley Barbour, the Koch Industries, Freedom Works and on and on. People gathered for “classes” on how to disrupt Democrat’s town hall meeting by busing non residents into the districts to shout down real residents and keep them from talking. Tea Partiers SPIT on disabled people, carried racist and ignorant MISSPELLED signs and toted assault rifles.
Occupy Wall Streeters are fighting for the rights of everyone in America who is able, to have a job that pays enough to live on, to get an education, to not have pensions that they worked for and paid into for 20 plus years to be wiped out overnight on the whims of a tea bag governor, to have a roof over their heads. Tea baggers want to keep “government hands off their medicare, medicaid, social security and veterans benefits. Occupy Wall Streeters KNOW those are GOVERNMENT RUN PROGRAMS.
Tea baggers believe government is the problem. Occupy Wall Streeters KNOW the low IQ, prejudiced, corrupt politicians tea baggers ELECT with the mission to MAKE government dysfunctional are the PROBLEM.

Posted by: Laura Nason | October 6, 2011, 12:45 pm 12:45 pm

Taxation without representation! A simple process the greedy and controlling domestic financial terrorists send the message to the poor and working class. Another Bank joined the extortionists and unless you have 15,000.00 in there bank they are charging you a fee. Punishment for voting a Black Man as President. Political Terrorists, Financial Terrorists, and the law enforcement is arresting good honest decent hard working American’s True Patriots just as in the past when they wanted freedom from the slavery they (GOP & Tea-Party wants to turn back the clocks and the corrupt corporations who have paid for them are holding Americans Hostage, and the economy and you stand by and watch. March America, March, like you have never marched before. Sign Petitions, Impeaches these GOP & Tea-Party terrorists, and vote people in with good honest decent Values that this country was governed on. Get Petitions together and send to your Banks (Whoever they are) Wells Fargo, BofA, And now others. Send the message to them you’re out of business. Go to your relatives, your family, your friends and March on your State Capitals, Your Banks that are using Mafia extortions tactics so they can buy more political terrorists.

Posted by: RaysZ28_2009 | October 6, 2011, 12:46 pm 12:46 pm

“Tea baggers believe government is the problem. Occupy Wall Streeters KNOW the low IQ, prejudiced, corrupt politicians tea baggers ELECT with the mission to MAKE government dysfunctional are the PROBLEM.”

If only we could stop them.

Posted by: Solyndra | October 6, 2011, 12:49 pm 12:49 pm

LAURA NASON: “Tea Partiers SPIT on disabled people, carried racist and ignorant MISSPELLED signs . . .”

Those were the liberal plants. And, their actions disqualify them as members of the Tea Party, anyway.

LAURA NASON: “. . . corrupt politicians tea baggers ELECT with the mission to MAKE government dysfunctional are the PROBLEM.”

The Tea Party didn’t elect Obama and Democrats. If you worried more about free people and their free market rather than your precious government, we wouldn’t be in the mess we are in now. I’m glad you like your hope and change so much!

Posted by: Anonymous | October 6, 2011, 12:56 pm 12:56 pm

I think we are all better off going to the Hank Williams Jr. website, at least I
know what I am Getting over there. No pretenses!

Posted by: deadwrestler | October 6, 2011, 12:59 pm 12:59 pm

all i want is a guaranteed job with time off for every little hang nail,free condoms or birth control, free education, free healthcare, free banking, a pension and to pay no tax . thats not too much to ask for while rome is burning? this is all i ask for while the employed 90% of the country toils to make ends meet. lovely…the liberal pipe dream.

Posted by: catman | October 6, 2011, 1:01 pm 1:01 pm

Personally would like to state that I was against Tarp, if the money had been used to make loans put people back to work, etc, like it was supposed to, the banks would’ve proven me wrong. However, they did not prove me wrong.

Posted by: Gregory Johnson | October 6, 2011, 1:12 pm 1:12 pm

Laura said @ 1245 PM; ” Tea Partiers SPIT on disabled people, carried racist and ignorant MISSPELLED signs and toted assault rifles.” Are you REALLY that naive? You don’t think they were political plants? Those people do it all the time. Spit on disabled people!? Listen to yourself.

Posted by: newcountryman | October 6, 2011, 1:18 pm 1:18 pm

Dear Mr. Vice President, they have nothing in common, the teaparty did not break laws, they where not FUNDED by Gearge Soros and Moveon.org, nor by any union. Posted by: Lizzie | October 6, 2011, 12:16 pm.

No, the Tea Baggers were founded – and are funded – by the multi-billionaire industrialist Koch brothers, and supported by groups like FreedomWorks and American Crossroads, who get millions and millions and millions of dollars in anonymous corporate cash to advance Republican corporate interests. And of course, they’re covered by the Republican propaganda media outlet, FOX Noise………….

Posted by: Searambler | October 6, 2011, 1:20 pm 1:20 pm

I think we are all better off going to the Hank Williams Jr. website, at least I
know what I am Getting over there. No pretenses! Posted by: deadwrestler | October 6, 2011, 12:59 pm.

Yep, no pretenses. You get the unvarnished redneck racist intolerant judgmental hypocrite view over there. Have fun!

Posted by: Searambler | October 6, 2011, 1:22 pm 1:22 pm

Here comes the dictators………inciting riots in the streets! All they want, is to get dictatorial control of this country. Posted by: Rick McDaniel | October 6, 2011, 12:22 pm.

Why are people on the Right so dang stupid? I mean really, really just plain old DUMB as a box of rocks. There is no other explanation for posts like the one above.

Posted by: Searambler | October 6, 2011, 1:28 pm 1:28 pm

Neither Obama or Biden have any back bone..there is no backbone in a asshole

Posted by: Ron | October 6, 2011, 1:39 pm 1:39 pm

anonymous…so by your logic if we do away with all regulations, the price of everything will go down? So that means gas will go down to like 1.50 a gallon, and groceries will go down to 1950 prices? Wow, that’s incredible, sign me up. You are too naive or just plain dumb.

Posted by: Jake | October 6, 2011, 1:44 pm 1:44 pm

It was no coinsidence that the tea party started in the middle of the health care debate. A lot of there funding comes from groups funded by the health insurance industy. I’ve said this many times, quoting Jonathan Swift. “We will know when a true genius enters the world, because a confederacy of dunces will form against him” By Swift’s criteria the president is a true genious.

Posted by: tferretti | October 6, 2011, 1:58 pm 1:58 pm

Same as the Tea Party, hey?

This must be code by Obama, Biden, democrats and the liberal new media for thinking these protestors are RACISTS!

Posted by: Mr. Data | October 6, 2011, 2:01 pm 2:01 pm

Occupy Wall Street, as I agree with VP Biden, is matter of an unfair system, one can continue to fathom in a bubble world and assume these people are deadbeats, quite contrary, this is the stuff that revolutions are contrived of, belittling good people willing to work hard and be given a fair chance, then those in power act surprised when things get out of control and they find themselves stripped of their power, money and are ousted out, as a people we repeat mistakes over and over again, we seem to be doomed to not take heed and learn from them. If one is assuming a dictatorship, it has arrived in the form of bought elections and the candidates we’re given are hand picked by the select few.

Posted by: phantomniter | October 6, 2011, 2:04 pm 2:04 pm

The only thing common between the two is that they are both angry.

The Tea Party wants to shutdown government, so that corporations can exploit and cheat people freely, while the WallStreet protesters want the government to reign in corporations because they have been exploiting and cheating people

Posted by: Dave | October 6, 2011, 2:05 pm 2:05 pm

Posted by: Jake | October 6, 2011, 1:44 pm 1:44 pm

Tierra the Obamabot calls someone else dumb. LOL!

Posted by: Mary | October 6, 2011, 2:05 pm 2:05 pm

Really don’t care about the tea party since they caused our first ever downgrade.

Posted by: phantomniter | October 6, 2011, 2:07 pm 2:07 pm

The United States will be destroyed from within… Sarcastic here: Tea Baggers, OWS doesn’t matter! They cannot see beyond Smoke and Mirrors, truth remains clouded… VIVA the Revolutions…

Posted by: rnevelle | October 6, 2011, 2:07 pm 2:07 pm

“Tierra the Obamabot calls someone else dumb. LOL!” ROFL!!! yeah that statement speaks volumes of your mindset.

Posted by: phantomniter | October 6, 2011, 2:11 pm 2:11 pm

DON’T LET THESE PEOPLE TURN IT INTO AN ARGUMENT BETWEEN RIGHT AND LEFT, LIBERAL AND CONSERVATIVE. OCCUPY WALL STREET IS AGAINST CORRUPTION, AGAINST THE DESTRUCTION OF LIBERTY AND FREEDOM THAT WE HAVE SEEN SINCE THE BUSHES PATRIOT ACT AND CONTINUE TO SEE IN OBAMA’S EXPANSION THERE OF. THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH REPUBLICAN, DEMOCRAT BECAUSE TODAY THEY ARE ONE IN THE SAME.

Posted by: Anonymous | October 6, 2011, 2:14 pm 2:14 pm

Really don’t care about the tea party since they caused our first ever downgrade.

Posted by: phantomniter | October 6, 2011, 2:07 pm 2:07 pm

Not possible. The left constantly insists the Tea Party is irrelevant.

Posted by: Mary | October 6, 2011, 2:14 pm 2:14 pm

How in the world can he even say such a thing that is a total lie? He, foot in the mouth Biden, Pelosi, Reid and their side kick Obama regulated Credit cards along with every thing else. That is why every thing you do at a bank or credit card rates are out of sight. All in the name of helping the middle class.

Posted by: specmach | October 6, 2011, 2:23 pm 2:23 pm

No two groups could be further apart than the tea party and occupy wall street. The occupy wall street group is a grass roots movement made up of all kinds of people from both the left and right. They have no orgainzation, recieve no major funding and are generally a rag tag group but they do represent the frustration of the American people. Kind of like those folks who through the tea in Boston harbor a couple hundred years ago.

The tea party contributes to the frustration. They are organized and funded by the health insurance industry. Their main agenda has nothing to do with the aspirations of the American people. Their one and only goal is to repeal the health care bill and make sure president Obama is gone once it takes effect.

Posted by: tferretti | October 6, 2011, 2:23 pm 2:23 pm

those who ran through boston a couple of a hundred years ago were about taxation without representation. this group doesnt pay federal taxes and they want more from the govt? they are now organized and funded by labor unions and the american taxpayers who funded these unions in the last stimulus.

Posted by: catman | October 6, 2011, 2:29 pm 2:29 pm

Democrats! Don’t just be sheep for your limousine liberal leaders… Cmon, the globalist lackey Obama is only doing what his corporate paymasters are telling him… Dump the economy and make them tons of money with insider deals. He is obviously a New World Order shill that knows he will be exposed as a usurper in chief if he gets out of line! Please libs, wake up, don’t be bigots and play the race card. I don’t support Obama because… he is as corrupt as Bush. The Obama administration are mostly Wall Street Crooks. Rahm Emanuel, Larry Summers, Tim Geitner, Jeffrey Immelt, etc, etc… The list goes on and on…. The Democratic sponsored financial overhaul from 2009 was a HUGE disservice to America since it GAVE MORE POWER TO THE FEDERAL RESERVE! After causing and profiting off of our economic demise, they use the very crisis to assume more power. For REAL change in 2012! Support Ron Paul!!!

Posted by: boss | October 6, 2011, 2:32 pm 2:32 pm

The BIGGEST issue America faces is ending a corrupt ponzi scheme called the Federal Reserve. The Fed IS a privately owned bank that profits off of our debt. This ponzi scheme was set up by bankers and voted on by owned politicians in 1913 as the Federal Reserve Act (easy to repeal). Do your research! These crooks are intentionally destroying our dollar and economy, so their buddies at the IMF can promote a new world currency. Both parties are owned by this banking cartel. The Fed is creating massive inflation by printing our dollar into oblivion. They are doing this to keep their financial Ponzi scheme afloat. Our society is doomed, since our education system is rigged (via the NEA and media) to dumb down the populous about the real power brokers of corruption in our world like the UN, Federal Reserve, IMF, World Bank, WTO, etc… With the help of Obama and Bush, your pockets are getting picked. End the Federal Reserve. Ron Paul 2012!!!

Posted by: boss | October 6, 2011, 2:33 pm 2:33 pm

Ron Paul receives more financial contributions from active duty vets than all the other candidates combined. Why is this? They know that Ron Paul is the best solution for our National Defense, though the establishment media is trying to make him look like a kook who would hurt national security. We need to defend our borders and give all these National Guard troops who are on their 3rd and 4th tours of duty a break. What if there was a real war in the near future? Our military is already at the breaking point from wars started to help banks and oil companies. There is a good PBS Frontline doc about troops who have PTSD are just put on serious meds and sent back to the frontlines. The Army also has lowered it’s standards and recruits criminals who then commit crimes in the Mid East and when they come back home. What a mess…. We need an agenda to help repair America. Vote for Ron Paul 2012!!!!

Posted by: boss | October 6, 2011, 2:33 pm 2:33 pm

Obama is only doing what his corporate paymasters are telling him… Dump the economy and make them tons of money with insider deals. He is obviously a New World Order shill that knows he will be exposed as a usurper in chief if he gets out of line! Please libs, wake up, don’t be bigots and play the race card. I don’t support Obama because… he is as corrupt as Bush and the rest of the banking puppets. For REAL change! Support Ron Paul 2012!!!

Posted by: boss | October 6, 2011, 2:34 pm 2:34 pm

The Republican PARTY is as corrupt as the Democratic PARTY. The establishment media and both PARTIES are owned by banks and corps and they fear RON PAUL. Will enough American’s wake up to the truth. Romney, Perry Obama, Bush and Clinton ALL work for a corrupt banking system and the catalyst is the privately owned Federal Reserve. Don’t be sheep, our society is doomed since our education system is rigged (via the NEA and media) to dumb down the populous about the real power brokers of corruption in our world like the UN, Federal Reserve, IMF, World Bank, WTO, WHO etc…We are not taught anything about these cartels in Grade school, MS, HS or college. These groups are globalist fronts for banks and corporations. They collectively want to destroy our economy and dollar to form a new world currency to maximize their profits. We are witnessing the largest transfer of wealth in history from the taxpayer to the bankster. We need a president who isn’t owned! Ron Paul 2012!!!

Posted by: boss | October 6, 2011, 2:35 pm 2:35 pm

The people that argue the Tea Party is funded by the Health Insurance industry do not know what your talking about… The Wall Street group is a bunch of punks funded by the Dems and Unions, you talk about astro turf, they don’t have a clue what their for, just more giveaway programs mainly.

Posted by: Freedom | October 6, 2011, 2:35 pm 2:35 pm

The iimmediate aim of the Communist is the same as that of all the other proletarian parties: formation of the proletariat into a class, overthrow of the bourgeois supremacy, conquest of political
power by the proletariat.

Manifest of the Communist Party

Posted by: Pablo Maciques | October 6, 2011, 2:39 pm 2:39 pm

These idiots look like the 49% tjat dont pay any taxes. The Unions have to come in to show these idiots how to get violent. Here comes the rules for anarchists. NO OW does not look at all like the Tea Party.

Posted by: DaBlabberingIdiot | October 6, 2011, 2:44 pm 2:44 pm

LAURANASON – KEEP TALKING FROM THE LIBERAL PLAYBOOK…YOU HAVE LEARNED IT WELL.

Posted by: MJ | October 6, 2011, 2:54 pm 2:54 pm

Anon @ 2:14 has it right! Wall Street controls Congress. Every elected representative benefits from relationships with business lobbies, executives AND unions; those relationships result in favorable legislation for someone. It’s not for the Greater Good, it’s for whatever group can write the biggest check, promise the greatest number of votes or both. Megacorps represent one fringe; unions, the other (don’t think every politician doesn’t have his/her hand out to both). Those of us in the middle are not heard. Until there is strict lobbying and campaign finance reform and term limits (since we’re apparently too stupid to elect anyone other than the same prostitutes based on the letter behind the name), nothing will change. The protestors should be in DC, not on Wall Street. Wall Street doesn’t have to listen; elected officials do—or should anyway.

Posted by: LagunaTriMom | October 6, 2011, 2:55 pm 2:55 pm

TFERRETTI – GUESS AGAIN… THE UNION THUGS ARE AMONG THEM AND PROVIDING FINANCIAL AND PHYSICAL SUPPORT AS WELL AS INCITING MORE VIOLENCE

Posted by: MJ | October 6, 2011, 2:58 pm 2:58 pm

@LagunaTriMom

Well stated.

Posted by: foggy | October 6, 2011, 3:12 pm 3:12 pm

“The tea party contributes to the frustration. They are organized and funded by the health insurance industry. Their main agenda has nothing to do with the aspirations of the American people.
“——————More bizarre thinking. Where did our education go! Getting back to reality, they are clearly somewhat alike. Notforthe reasons biden says

Posted by: jonny | October 6, 2011, 3:53 pm 3:53 pm

PABLO quotes “overthrow of the bourgeois supremacy, conquest of political
power by the proletariat. In other words get the political influence of big money out of our system and give the power back to the people. Sounds like a plan to me.

Posted by: tferretti | October 6, 2011, 4:01 pm 4:01 pm

THE UNION THUGS

Posted by: MJ | October 6, 2011, 2:58 pm 2:58 pm

I’m in favor of collective bargaining right, and your use of the word ‘thugs’ is a right wing smear tactic. Use logic and facts, instead of name calling and you might gain some respect.

Posted by: Stu | October 6, 2011, 4:01 pm 4:01 pm

STU

I’ll bet MJ has no complaints at work about all the benefits he enjoys today because of those “union thugs” who stood on those pickets lines to get those benefits. Despite republican beliefs, companies do not give the workers anything out of the goodness of their hearts .

Posted by: tferretti | October 6, 2011, 4:41 pm 4:41 pm

Stu | October 6, 2011, 4:01 pm…………….Union Thugs is a Rush Limbaugh staple. Anyone who listens to Rush or uses his talking points is already brain dead. Trying to reason with them is a waste of breath. They can’t even comprehend simple concepts.

Posted by: Taintedbylies | October 6, 2011, 4:59 pm 4:59 pm

cutting of brake lines and kidnapping of security guards in tacoma a month ago at longshore union protest and the activities of the unions protesting verizon which included physical property damage earns the title of thug. the more the unions think they acheive the more jobs they push out of the country.businesses are in the business of making a profit and will use the cheapest labor they can find so you can buy the least expensive product.
liberals dont get it that it is the consumer who determines the price of a product and hence how much one can spend to produce that product and make a profit. buy american and you solve your delima. those same people protesting likley drive foreign autos and buy the least expensive products and likely made in china to boot.

Posted by: catman | October 6, 2011, 5:20 pm 5:20 pm

The Tea Party????? Once again Joe sticks his foot in his mouth.

Posted by: pauline | October 6, 2011, 5:23 pm 5:23 pm

ANONYMOUS @ October 6, 2011, 2:14 pm: “DON’T LET THESE PEOPLE TURN IT INTO AN ARGUMENT BETWEEN RIGHT AND LEFT, LIBERAL AND CONSERVATIVE.”

But, that’s exactly the what this is — a choice between two proposed solutions. Liberals prefer to grow the economy through government based on artificial political priorities, which just wastes taxpayer dollars, and conservatives prefer to grow the economy through the people based on real market conditions. Liberals favor the tyranny of government, whereas conservatives favor the freedom of the people to choose their own destiny.

This Occupy Wall Street crowd are nothing but S o c i a l i s t Obama supporters. To quote a great conservative, you can put lipstick on a pig, but it’s still a pig — a very smelly and hungry one at that!

Posted by: Anonymous | October 6, 2011, 5:23 pm 5:23 pm

CATMAN

Any organization has its rabble rousers. The vast majority of union members are decent hard working Americans who just don’t beleive they have to depend on the kind heartness of a company to acheive a decent wage or safe working conditions.

Unions don’t cut there own throats, they see the company books when they go into negotiations, unions have made concessions over and over again when a company is hurting financially. Wanting a pay raise when the company can afford millions of dallars in bonuses for CEOs is not unreasonable.

Posted by: tferretti | October 6, 2011, 5:32 pm 5:32 pm

tefferiti….most tea partiers are decent hard working americans who dont believe they have to depend on the kind heartedness of the government.to acheive a decent wage or safe working conditions.the stimulus forces the use of unions or opening ones shop to unionization.
how about the lowest bidder gets the job regardless of being union or not? is that not the best use of our tax dollars? the answer is yes and this is all about the democratic base who are no longer attending obama rallies or contributing there 3 dollars to obama.

Posted by: catman | October 6, 2011, 5:48 pm 5:48 pm

What I don’t get, why do banks NEED to charge the extra 5$…

If they don’t charge the extra 5$ will they collapse?

Boohoo they’ll lose a TINY amount of profit.

Everyone else is having to suck up and deal with paycuts and profit losses maybe it’s time for them to feel the pain.

Posted by: Hmmm | October 6, 2011, 7:24 pm 7:24 pm

When someone punishes innocent people because of something they don’t like it’s called being an immature bully.

Unless it’s done by a corporation, then it’s the ‘proper thing to do against evil government’.

If Bank of America doesn’t like what the government did they shouldn’t punish the customers, they should strip the money they give to their lobbyists. Which they’re going to do anyway

Posted by: You know | October 6, 2011, 7:31 pm 7:31 pm

HMMM: “What I don’t get, why do banks NEED to charge the extra 5$”

Due to the the government regulations enacted by Democrats in the Dodd-Frank bill. Contrary to liberal mythology, every government regulation comes at a cost to the private sector and, therefore, the consumer. Nothing is free.

HMMM: “If they don’t charge the extra 5$ will they collapse?”

Probably not, but they would need to stop offering debit cards or ATM access.

HMMM: “Boohoo they’ll lose a TINY amount of profit.”

Wrong. If you don’t like it, vote in new government representatives, as they caused the increase. Banks don’t exist to serve your every need. Like any other business, they exist to make money.

Posted by: Anonymous | October 6, 2011, 7:38 pm 7:38 pm

Who ever SAYS small government, there is a SINISTER IDEA, U know what. Government Job is to PROTECT, the interests of COMMON MAN. Those who talk they KNOW. Still THEY ARE DEMANDING MEANS what they want ANARCHY. If middle class AMERICANS know IT IS BETTER FOR THE COUNTRY. Every one started telling in a way they DONOT WANT GOVERNMENT, these are the very PEOPLE wanted to TAKE BACK THE COUNTRY to PRE HISTORIC DATE where the RULE OF LAW IS who ever is MIGHT. Those days are gone for GOOD. Americans should STOP THESE CHARACTERS in their PATH and it is GOOD FOR ALL PROGRESSIVE THINKERS.

Posted by: SRINIVAS RAO | October 6, 2011, 7:52 pm 7:52 pm

SRINIVAS RAO: “Who ever SAYS small government, there is a SINISTER IDEA, U know what.”

Yeah, those founding fathers were a sinister group. If they had listened to liberals like you, we wouldn’t even be having this conversation.

SRINIVAS RAO: “Government Job is to PROTECT, the interests of COMMON MAN.”

True, and I think most want government to continue protecting, but we don’t want government soffucating us through their protections — which is the problem we have now.

Posted by: Anonymous | October 6, 2011, 8:04 pm 8:04 pm

Clowns on the left of me, jokers on the right; here I am, stuck in the middle with you. Doesn’t ANYONE get it?!? Why, why, why do you idiots continue to support the so-called “two party system”. (In quotes because they are all controlled by the same entities. Your lack of discernment sickens me!

Posted by: Steve Archibald | October 6, 2011, 8:57 pm 8:57 pm

STEVE ARCHIBALD: “Clowns on the left of me, jokers on the right; here I am, stuck in the middle with you. Doesn’t ANYONE get it?!? Why, why, why do you idiots continue to support the so-called ‘two party system’. (In quotes because they are all controlled by the same entities. Your lack of discernment sickens me!”

In all your empty criticism, you offer no solution. Thus, the independent. Claiming to be superior to everyone else isn’t a position or a solution — it’s arrogance based on nothing.

Posted by: Anonymous | October 6, 2011, 9:47 pm 9:47 pm

NOT EVEN CLOSE, BIDEN. YOU ARE TRULY A NUT!

Posted by: Jimbo | October 6, 2011, 9:56 pm 9:56 pm

Given the lack of cogency in some of these comments I say we’re doomed.

Posted by: Dan | October 6, 2011, 10:17 pm 10:17 pm

Did I miss something? Is Biden with the protesters, or is she watching her “base” walk away from her, and trying to call out to them? No more “hope” and “Yes we cans” now!!
As for the “Jobs Program”, nobody is going to persuade our “uncertain, frightened, and bailed-out” job creators to do anything but hold on to the money Biden sent them.

Posted by: NOTOWTO | October 9, 2011, 5:39 pm 5:39 pm

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