Oct 19, 2011 12:43pm

Debate Bickering: GOP Candidates Butt Heads on Immigration, Border Security

While the GOP debate dissolved into shouting matches on multiple occasions Tuesday night, some of the most visceral bickering erupted on the topics of illegal immigration and the border fence.

Texas Gov. Rick Perry came out swinging against former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney, attacking him for being “one of the problems” when it comes to illegal immigration.

“Mitt, you lose all of your standing, from my perspective, because you hired illegals in your home and you knew about it for a year,” Perry said.” And the idea that you stand here before us and talk about that you’re strong on immigration is on its face the height of hypocrisy.”

To which Romney responded,  ”I don’t think I’ve ever hired an illegal in my life.”

The two candidates then shouted over one another, with Romney chastising Perry for having “a problem with allowing someone to finish speaking” and Perry cutting Romney off, saying “I’ll tell you what the facts are.”

Eventually, Romney explained that “we went to the company and we said, ‘Look, you can’t have any illegals working on our property.’”

“I’m running for office, for Pete’s sake, I can’t have illegals,” Romney added.

The former Massachusetts governor later turned the attack back on Perry, saying his record on immigration “doesn’t stand up to muster” because “Texas has had 60 percent increase in illegal immigrants” in the past 10 years.

“Gov. Perry, you say you have got the experience,” Romney said. “It’s a bit like saying that, you know, the college coach that has lost 40 games in a row has the experience to go to the NFL.”

Rep. Michele Bachmann of  Minnesota also joined in the attacks on Perry, emphasizing that unlike the Texas governor, she “will build a double-walled fence” that stretches along ”the entire border.”

Besides Rep. Ron Paul of Texas, Perry was the only GOP candidate on stage who opposes a fence along the entire 2,000-mile U.S.-Mexico border.

“You know, for someone that’s been in the United States Congress, to lecture me on the issues that are going on, on that border is not right,” Perry shot back. “Let me tell you, we’ve had to deal with that issue in the state of Texas. We’ve had to deal with the impact on our state. We know how to secure the border.”

Herman Cain was also quick to point out his support of a full-border fence, but backed away from comments he made this weekend that the fence should be ”20 feet high, with barbed wire, electrified. With a sign on the other side that says it can kill you.”

“Yes, I believe we should secure the border for real, and it would be a combination of a fence, technology, as well as possibly boots on the ground for some of the more dangerous areas,” Cain said at Tuesday’s Las Vegas debate, adding that he does not “apologize at all for wanting to protect the American citizens.”

The former Godfather’s Pizza CEO had said two days before that his electric fence comments were only a “joke” but, by Monday, Cain again reiterated that he supported a fence that “might be electrified.”

In a Tuesday speech at the libertarian Cato Institute, former Mexican President Vicente Fox slammed Cain’s electric fence idea, saying it was “incredible,” “stupid” and “nonsense.” Fox said he might as well put “water with crocodiles” along the border.

Perry also pushed back against Cain’s plan, saying at the debate that “there’s a better way.”

“I will tell you, Herman, you put a lot of boots on the ground,” Perry said. “You use Predator drones that are being trained right up here at Creech Air Force Base in Nevada to use that real-time information to give those boots on the ground that information, and they can instantly move to those areas. And that is the way to shut that border down, to secure that border.”

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of course there’s a shouting match..what did you expect? That’s how the GOP handle things as well as Congress. They did not want to sit down and discuss things rationally with this president and now they are yelling at each other. This is what we want running our country? They are showing just how immature and pig headed they really are…they can’t even talk like grownups with their own party! None of them would get my vote!

Posted by: Barb | October 19, 2011, 1:18 pm 1:18 pm

Does this sound like adults to you? Why would anyone with half a brain want any of these people to lead 300,000,000 Americans and be in charge of the most powerful military in the world? They are an embarrassment to the GOP and to our nation as a whole.

They’ve discredited themselves by lying about each other, so my bet is in the next debate they’ll go back to slamming President Obama.

Posted by: tmferretti | October 19, 2011, 1:19 pm 1:19 pm

I love it when they all eat their own over there.

Posted by: Secondlook | October 19, 2011, 1:34 pm 1:34 pm

I watched the show and yes they are “butt heads” … :-)

Posted by: tychicum | October 19, 2011, 1:43 pm 1:43 pm

Debate is good! We cease to be a democracy when it stops…

Posted by: Roy | October 19, 2011, 1:50 pm 1:50 pm

Don’t worry Pres.Obama has a monopoly on that, its not my fault, the tsunami, Greece, China, I have not done anything so you can’t blame me. If you would have been that involved the last time around we would have Hillary as President.

Posted by: Lizzie | October 19, 2011, 1:50 pm 1:50 pm

Hear ye, hear ye, hear ye! You saw it all over TV last night. I watched it a couple of times because it was so freaking funny.

“Butt Heads” butt heads! What a concept. Is anyone really paying any attention to this complete farce?

Posted by: Karen | October 19, 2011, 1:59 pm 1:59 pm

Wow, seriously?! This debate was the saddest, most pathetic, and ridiculous of all the GOP debates so far. A bunch of pompous idiots yelling at and over each other. Giggling, bullying, blubbering, and not making a lick of sense or discussing anything of importance to American citizens. I say “Nein, Nein, Nein!” to the entire lot! If this is all we have to choose from, we are deeply in trouble.

Posted by: WWJD | October 19, 2011, 2:20 pm 2:20 pm

It has come to the point where there are no good candidates…they are all corrupt and all in it for themselves. None of them has any real solution except to bicker back and forth so people will concentrate on the “entertainment” and not the real issues. BTW: It’s too bad Hillary didn’t run last time, she would have won and our country would have been in better shape. She has experience, common sense and is a reasonable person. There aren’t any others that have what she has. People vote for the wrong reasons, including party. They forget we are all Americans and we should try and stand together…Again it’s not a Yankees v Red Sox…this is the real world and we are only dividing ourselves.

Posted by: Barb | October 19, 2011, 2:53 pm 2:53 pm

Roy: Yes debate is good BUT this is not debate…it’s arguing back and forth over each other. They have no real solutions, only no no no.

Posted by: Barb | October 19, 2011, 2:54 pm 2:54 pm

The republican candidates are all right-wing nuts! The republican congress representatives are throwing the amereican people under the bus in order to blame the failing economy on Obama in a blad-faced attempt to grab power in the name of big, multi-national corporations.

Posted by: Randy | October 20, 2011, 2:10 am 2:10 am

Perry said, “We know how to secure the border.”

Apparently, though, they simply choose not to? There’s too much cheap labor coming across for anyone to seriously do anything to slow down illegal immigration. Until we start aggressively pursuing and punishing the AMERICANS who HIRE the illegals, nothing will change……………….

Posted by: Searambler | October 20, 2011, 3:49 pm 3:49 pm

Yes, secure the border with a 200o mile , 8 billion dollar fence that my six year old grandaughter could get through with her four year old little brother tagging along. What idiots.

We could accomplish the same thing at no cost and make money if we would fine or jail those employers who knowingly hire illegal immigrants. However if we did that the US Chamber of Commerce would quit finacing half the republican campaigns.

Posted by: tmferretti | October 20, 2011, 5:46 pm 5:46 pm

I wonder if any of the participants in the GOP ‘clown show’ have ‘any idea’ how ridiculous and pathetic they look to the intelligent, educated voters of our nation?

Posted by: CND FOX | October 21, 2011, 5:51 pm 5:51 pm

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