Immigration at Heart of Heated Debate Duel
LAS VEGAS — For all the talk about the nation’s sluggish economy, especially here in the state that leads the nation in unemployment and foreclosures, it was the explosive topic of immigration that was at the heart of the most-heated exchange of Tuesday’s debate.
In fact, you could easily argue that it was the most heated exchange of any of this election cycle’s debates so far. Add one part slumping Rick Perry, eager to turn around his recent plunge in the polls. Mix one part defensive Mitt Romney, facing relentless attacks from his rivals. Stir in a debate held in a state where more than one in four are Latino. And you’ve got a recipe for fireworks.
It all kicked off when Perry accused Romney of hiring illegal immigrants to work on the lawn of his Massachusetts home.
“Mitt, you lose all of your standing, from my perspective, because you hired illegals in your home and you knew about it for a year,” Perry said. “And the idea that you stand here before us and [say] that you’re strong on immigration is on its face the height of hypocrisy.”
“Rick, I don’t think I’ve ever hired an illegal in my life,” responded Romney.
“We hired a lawn company to mow our lawn, and they had illegal immigrants that were working there,” said the former governor of Massachusetts. “And when that was pointed out to us, we let them go.
“So we went to the company and we said, look, you can’t have any illegals working on our property,” he said. “I’m running for office, for Pete’s sake, I can’t have illegals. It turns out that once questioned, they hired someone who had falsified their documents, had documents, and therefore we fired them.”
Afterward Romney’s staff accused Perry of ”personal cheap shots,” in the words of senior adviser Eric Fehrnstrom.
“Mitt Romney hired a legitimate company, the company in turn hired illegal immigrants. When it was pointed out to Mitt Romney he told the company to correct the problem,” Fehrnstrom said. “When the company failed to correct the problem, he fired them.”
The fiery debate exchange was the talk of the spin room as campaign aides from all candidates addressed the touchy issue of immigration.
Rosario Marin, who supports Perry, defended the Texas governor, explaining that he was saying to Romney “Don’t attack me when you’re [part of the problem].”
J.D. Gordon, the vice-president of communications for the surging Herman Cain, said, “You know we have 50 million Latinos in the United States, so it is an important issue for all of them and for the whole country. I think it’s important to strengthen the border, but I am in favor of – and the campaign is in favor of – legal immigration.”
The issue is sure to be a key one in the upcoming elections, especially with the Latino population increasing all the time in states like Nevada. The Silver State is set to be the third to vote in January, making it especially important. The Latino population here is on the rise, up 7 percent in the past decade. In 2008, Latinos backed Barack Obama by a two-to-one margin, propeling him to a 55-43 victory here.
“Thirty percent are Latinos here, so the national campaign is going to have a real Latino effect,” said Fernando Cortes who’s with Ron Paul’s campaign. “Therefore Nevada is where we start.”
“I think [the election] is going to be very emotional because now Latinos have power when it comes to voting,” said Miguel Orozco of Newt Gingrich’s campaign.
Even before Tuesday’s debate, immigration had already played a prominent role in this election cycle, especially in the Romney-Perry battle. Perry, who has an extensive background in immigration because of his state’s massive border with Mexico, has said he does not support a fence across the border. But Romney does support one, claiming that employers in America are “magnets” to illegal immigrants seeking work and whose legality is never properly verified.
At a debate last month in Florida, Perry even went so far as to accuse Romney of “not having a heart” because the former Bay State governor said he opposed giving in-state tuition rates to illegal immigrants.
To which Romney retorted, “I think if you’re opposed to illegal immigration it doesn’t mean you don’t have a heart it means you have a heart and a brain.”
The Obama campaign contends that whether the GOP nominee is Romney or Perry or someone else, Latinos should favor the incumbent president for another term in the White House.
“The choice for Hispanic Americans is between a president who passed legislation that kept 1.9 million Latinos out of poverty, provided 150,000 additional Hispanic students with the means to go to college, and fought to pass comprehensive immigration reform and the Dream Act, and a Republican field whose leading candidates oppose the Dream Act and a path to citizenship for immigrants and would slash funding for education, Medicare and Social Security,” said Gabriela Domenzain, an Obama campaign spokeswoman.
After the fireworks in Las Vegas this week, it’s clear that the fight over immigration has already heated the election debate to a boiling point. And right now it shows no signs of cooling down.

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The economy is (not will be) Obama’s downfall (for November 2012). That and the failed Stimulus I, Obamacare, Libya, Gitmo, Eric Holder, campaign-gate, Fast ‘n’ Furious, unprecedented deficit spending, KSM, Harry Reid’s “no” vote on the Obama’s no-fail “jobs bill”, Nancy Pelosi, Occupy Wall Street, etc., etc. Obama could lock in his reelection if he admitted his policies aren’t working and proposed something that actually has a chance to get a “yea” vote from Harry Reid and the other Senate Democrats as well as House Republicans. Doling out more money to unions, i.e., Stimulus II, isn’t going to get him the Independent votes he needs to win in 2012. We all know the union folk and the black voters will support Obama despite his destructive policies and breathtaking hypocrisy regarding Wall Street and those evil, rich capitalists (of which he is one). As Herman Cain so boldly stated: it is indeed time for people to start thinking for themselves. Those of us who actually pay personal, federal income taxes owe it to future generations of legal citizens to start demanding accountability for our investment. Billions of taxpayer dollars continue to be used by the Democrat machine to buy union votes and distort the truth about PROPOSED entitlement reforms. If left untouched, Democrat programs will continue taking the U.S.A. and its uninitiated electorate down a path to the most predictable financial implosion in our history. I don’t know how these people sleep.
Posted by: s | October 19, 2011, 4:28 pm 4:28 pm
During this election season pollsters should ask respondents to identify their primary source of broadcast news. Assuming respondents are truthful, this would lend scientific credence to the liberal bias at work in all network media organizations and explain, among many other peculiarities, how 19% “strongly approve” President Obama’s performance according to today’s Rasmussen Daily Tracking Poll.
Posted by: s | October 19, 2011, 4:46 pm 4:46 pm
So much for the “FIRST BLACK PRESIDENT” rhetoric. America needs a president (race notwithstanding) who can get the job done. The Obama presidency was an “experiment” that did not work.
Posted by: NoFlyZone2 | October 19, 2011, 10:54 pm 10:54 pm
If you can’t keep illegal Mexican immigrants from crossing the border….. you can’t keep terrorists with dirty nuke bombs from crossing the border…. when will we wise up???? Only when 20,000 people in NYC are dead???
Posted by: TheLoyalOpposition | October 20, 2011, 12:31 am 12:31 am
Immigration is not a “heated issue”.
The heated issue is that we have millions of illegal aliens in this country and more pouring in every day.
Maybe we need to spell it out for ABC and a few others. I – L – L – E – G – A – L
Posted by: cloud | October 20, 2011, 1:02 am 1:02 am
@S The fact that you used the term ‘liberal bias’ says it all. It’s always funny to hear right wingers scream about bias and liberal media when reality is at the end of the day, everything that doesn’t agree with your point of view is ‘liberal’ and the enemy. Despite the fact that the station that entrenches that ‘belief’ flat out fabricates it’s reports. If you truly do want to understand how that affects people and their ‘votes’, maybe you should pull up the studies that will show you who the most uninformed voters in this country really are. You might be in for a shock. There is a reason right wingers are so easily identified when they post, because you all parrot the same things imprinted from that station, while thinking it’s the truth..and quite frankly, people are tired of listening to it. And far as your complaints..exactly what have the GOP offered to solve anything? What about the jobs they promised? Why are all the nominee’s ‘tax plans’ the same reprocessed ‘trickle down and tax breaks for the wealthy’? I don’t blame Obama..I blame the GOP, progress was being made until they started blocking, and I never ONCE saw them reach across the isle.
Posted by: A | October 20, 2011, 2:49 am 2:49 am
…..you can’t keep terrorists with dirty nuke bombs from crossing the border…. when will we wise up???? Only when 20,000 people in NYC are dead??? Posted by: TheLoyalOpposition | October 20, 2011, 12:31 am.
What in gods name are you yammering about now? Did you watch an old rerun of “24″?
Posted by: Searambler | October 20, 2011, 3:42 pm 3:42 pm
So much for the “FIRST BLACK PRESIDENT” rhetoric. America needs a president (race notwithstanding) who can get the job done. The Obama presidency was an “experiment” that did not work. Posted by: NoFlyZone2 | October 19, 2011, 10:54 pm.
LOL! Pardon me, but your RACISM is showing. Again.
Posted by: Searambler | October 20, 2011, 3:44 pm 3:44 pm
“The Obama campaign contends that whether the GOP nominee is Romney or Perry or someone else, Latinos should favor the incumbent president for another term in the White House.”
And why is that? Does Obama contend that those Latinos who can vote (are US citizens) support the violation of our immigration laws?
Posted by: Halibut | October 20, 2011, 4:08 pm 4:08 pm
Decepticon Media tactics……
Obama has been a failure at everything he has promised or attempted.
This administration is more corrupt, unqualified, inept, and back door dealing than any administration in the history of these United States.
Just broken promises….. An adminitsration that was to be held accountable, An open door to Obama for the people. A 5 day look see at every bill that came to the Presidents desk.
Close Gitmo,
What we got….. Janet Napolitano… The system worked! Who is now before Congressional hearings on Obama’s Immigration policy… It’s called Look the other way.
Eric Holder who helped run Guns into Arizona and lied to Congress.
Tim Geithner, EX Citi Bank Exec.. That bailed out Friends and family….. But can’t go to bat for the home owner.
We have an immigration problem that has been made worse by these people in office.
Let’s toast Obama in 2012….. On his way out!
Posted by: TAD | October 20, 2011, 7:57 pm 7:57 pm
I look at the whole immigration debate a little different. Obama deports 400,000 illegals, that he knows will more than likely come back anyway, since the border is like a leaky sieve. He gets the headline for doing a good job, and at the same time, reduces the number of Hispanics that are fed up and would vote against him. History shows he will do almost anything to help his ratings, even if it means sacrificing the economy. Wonder if anyone has tallied up the losses we have suffered economically, from the 400,000 deportees that are no longer buying our goods and services? Want to help the economy? Build a fence, streamline the process and stop breaking up families you have let live and grow up here for the last 50 years without saying anything. The only buyers we should be sending to other countries are the ones with criminal records.
Posted by: General1 | October 20, 2011, 11:24 pm 11:24 pm
There is a very simple solution to the problem,fine and jail employeers who knowingly hire them,WHEN THE WEALTHY “JOB CREATORS” ARE PAYING HUGE FINES AND SHOWING UP FOR PRISON THEN SOMETHING WILL BE ACCOMPLISHED.obama has put 20,000 more agents on the border,deportations are higher than ever,and yet only Republicans can solve the problem?….Perry has done nothing about the ailien problem here in Texas because his largest contributor is Bob Perry,no relation,that owns Perry Homes,one of the largest employeers of Illegals in the state.
Posted by: a sane txn | October 21, 2011, 1:10 pm 1:10 pm