Obama Gains vs. GOP on Jobs as Congress Hits a New Low

Answer this question Mr. President, where are all the jobs your 700 billion dollar legislation was supposed to create. That legislation failed to create jobs, and now your 450 billion dollar legislation will fail to create jobs. Please step down from your office Mr. President and give America a fighting chance.; With you Mr. President, there is NO hope, there is NO change.

Good to see ABC is running his campaign and proping him up the best they can. Unfortunately ABC fails to post 70% believe the main street media is bias and does not report unbias information. This story is a clear example of those polls. They tried to put his bill up for vote in the senate yestersday but Reid blocked it. Nobody wants the bill including his own party.

Republicans took over both houses of the congress in January 1995, held onto it for 12 straight years until January 2007, and for the last six years of this period they even had a Republican President .

And during that time, only the first three years produced more manufacturing jobs (American PRODUCTION, i.e., “MADE IN AMERICA” jobs) over the year prior. For 9 years after those first 3 years, (i.e., 1998, 1999, 2000, 2001, 2002, 2003, 2004, 2005 and 2006 – AN ENTIRE DECADE), the country slowly but surely lost MILLIONS of “nucleus” manufacturing jobs that other service sector employment jobs in one way or another tied to. When all of those manufacturing jobs disappeared during the “LOST DECADE”, i.e., the REPUBLICAN DECADE, so too, eventually, would all of the millions of service sector jobs.

Here are the manufacturing job gains and losses during the “LOST DECADE”, i.e., the REPUBLICAN DECADE according to the BLS website. Notice how only the first 3 years show manufacturing job gains, and then the last 9 years show manufacturing job losses….. and the worst years occurred during the period when we had a Republican President, a Republican Senate and a Republican House (January 2001 to January 2007):

1995 = + 11,000
1996 = + 54,000
1997 = +304,000

1998 = .. -140,000
1999 = .. -170,000
2000 = …. -99,000
2001 = -1,468,000
2002 = .. -800,000
2003 = .. -610,000
2004 = …. -15,000
2005 = …. -96,000
2006 = .. -179,000

In total, during the 12 years that Republicans controlled both houses of congress (Jan ’95 to Jan ’07), the nation lost a total of 3.2 million manufacturing jobs. All of those “Nucleus” manufacturing jobs had other service sector jobs that linked to them. At the end of the Bush presidency, we started seeing all the service sector jobs that link back to manufacturing disappear…. the nucleus of why they existed (manufacturing) went away and so eventually they too had to go.

Now…. you may ask, what difference Obama has made? In 2010, FOR THE FIRST TIME SINCE 1997, the BLS data reflected a NET GROWTH in manufacturing equal to +109,000 for that year.

…and in 2011, up to the August data, manufacturing has had a NET GROWTH so far this year of +192,000 jobs.

@John, all due respect here, yes that did not bring about what it was suppose to do I agree with that, but during last years election didn’t the republicans talk about job creation and that they ( repubs) had a plan that was so much better than the President’s? Where is there plan???? all they have done since taking back the house is saying no and the President has been trying to work with both sides, and of course the repubs are acting like children who did not get to toy from the store with their ” it is our way or no way” attitude and that does not get things done for the country either! Yes the dems are also guilty for this at times also. The repubs all they have done is fight for the corporations and their welfare instead of the american people and their needs.

True Americans must wake up! This is not about the parties. This is about America. Because of the policies of the Republicans starting with Nixon, America has been on the downward slope. The Republican policies lead to deregulating, out sourcing, endless wars, selfishness and the desire to be regal. Let me say that the greatest Republican of this era was Dwight D. Eisenhower. Since then most have lied to the public, mislead, stole and attached the youth of America. They are the ones who do not believe in America. Nixon dropped the gold standard, kissed up to a sworn enemy – Communist China and claim to be a proud American, all the while attempting to destroy our civil rights. Reagan started attaching the youth of America while California’s Governor, which started the decline of the school system and later pushed his policies that reduced government involvement in education. He glorified the wealthy and made light of the poor. During his reign America was instrumental in supporting totalitarian governments, which now we must fight against.
The Bushes that lead the US into wars and foolish fiscal policies, none of which America has recovered from. I can go on. The Democratic Party has not been acting with good principles themselves. Clinton and his disrespect for the office of President. Obama, bowing to the leaders of the Communist all the while claiming to be a Christian, and a proud American. America is in a mess because of the leadership that mocks the American people while they claim to stand for the sound American principles that has made this country the envy of all the people of the World.

PASS THIS BILL you corrupt congressional lap dogs!

Yeah, Obama is a job-creating master. Give him 200K and he’ll create a $50K jjob – after handling charges…. And remember, Mr Geithner says iI’s a Bargain!

And right here is the ‘most important’ poll of all and the only ones who don’t (won’t) ‘get it’ are the hard right ideologues. While the President is out there trying to make things better for our nation and middle class the GOP and their hard right extremists are doing NOTHING…but obstructing. And the more intelligent part of the voting electrorate (who obviously made up a good part of this poll)….understands that. It is like I have been saying for two years….the GOP will tear itself apart next year…just wait and see.

Interesting. Obama’s Jobs Bill has not been able to get any Congressional sponsors. Seems to me the proposal is just another attempt at class warfare by this president. Just like his budget, which was shot down 97 – 0 in the Senate, this bill is a batch of bad ideas even the Democrats refuse to sponsor. Also, seem to me John Boehner is the most sane voice in national politics right now, along with Rep. Cantor and Ryan. Well, you can never underestimate the power of stupid people in large numbers. That’s the only thing I can come up with that explains the results of this poll

Republicans QUICKLYand SO EASILY passed 3 jobs bills between 2002 and 2006, when they controlled the White House, the Senate and the House of Representatives:

Iraq Economic and Military Aid (2002 to 2006) = $32.6 billion
“Sons of Iraq” program = $972,000,000 ……… LOL! … approximately $1 billion
Iraq Security Forces Fund = $18,039,000,000 ….. “$18 billion”

TOTAL: $51 billion in direct aid to Iraq

Ooops! I’m sorry… those programs were to put Iraqi’s back to work, not Americans. Sorry Republicans, I forgot…. LOL!

Those people in that 15% just aren’t paying attention or are too dumb to know what’s going on. His OWN PARTY won’t introduce or attempt to pass the bill. And actually where is the bill? Has anyone seen it? Has anyone read it? Does it exist at all anywhere except in Obamas mind.

Wow! Relative comparisions to low benchmarks are the linchpins to Obama’s self-deluded success. Obama is still a not-so-bright poltician who lacks the executive leadership skills to be POTUS.

I JUST LOVE reading about how much this bothers you right-wing tea-bagging nuts.

PLEASE post how much you hate Obama.

I will go get a glass of wine. When I come back, I better see some HATE.

(I can’t wait till election day when Mr. O. wins and you people WRITHE in pain.

Under Barack Obama 17% unemployment for African-Americans more than any white president, including Bush. 17% almost double the national unemployment for the entire US. Say what you want, President Barack Obama has devastated the African-American employment prospects.

Look at every state that has cut corproate taxes and have started to pay down their debt by sacrificing, NJ, PA, WV. . . all are on the upswing. The federal government especially the Obama administration needs to follow this formula of success, but their democratic pride is in the way.

Obama and his administration have devastated, crippled this country.

Ah Lorrie, where are all the jobs from the 700 billion dollar job creatiion, I mean stimulus legislation? Why would you think teh 450 billion dollar legislationi is going create any jobs if 700 billion dollars faile to create any.

@ JOHN ================Under Barack Obama 17% unemployment for African-Americans more than any white president, including Bush. 17% almost double the national unemployment for the entire US. Say what you want, President Barack Obama has devastated the African-American employment prospects.
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This is geting old…. it is not because of Obama that the unemployment rate is so high, it’s because of the greed that is running rampid in the corporations of America. The unemployment ratse was on the rise when Obama took office… When are you idiot Repubs and Tea heads going to take responsiblity for what you caused and your Republican buddy BUSH??? The African Americans of the U.S. understand where all of this is coming from… they don’t blame Obama. So don’t waste your time. LOL

JOHN ===================where are the jobs the Republicans created? I think that’s a better question.

New ABC News/Washington Post poll: Only 37 % expect Obama to win reelection–55% expect GOP presidential nominee to win. Now that’s a headline!

Lets stop and think about this rationally: how do you expect to create jobs by raising taxes on the people who are in charge of investing to create jobs? The Bank of America debit card fee is a perfect example of failed liberal policy–The Durbin amendment hit the banks with all types of new fees and regulations, and the banks pass the fees on to the consumer. Most of my liberal friends are simply illiterate when it comes to understanding economics, or they are outright marxists.

Here’s where you lose all credibility as a news media source. Your BIAS is so obvious as to be propaganda. The Public is much more intelligent today and has better sources for finding the truth.

Lorrie, here is the answer to that question, Companies are refusing to create jobs with policies the Obama Administration have put in place. You are correct there are none, because of the policies the Obama Administration have put in place. When the current job killing policies of the Obama Administration are removed, corporations will resume hiring, and the economy will rebound, until that happens, unemployment will continue rise. The blame clearly falls upon Barack Obama and his administration.

“I JUST LOVE reading about how much this bothers you right-wing tea-bagging nuts. PLEASE post how much you hate Obama. I will go get a glass of wine. When I come back, I better see some HATE. (I can’t wait till election day when Mr. O. wins and you people WRITHE in pain.”

Ya know you do have a point here. I don’t understand it myself. I don’t like how FOX reports news so it is a rarity that I am ever on their website or listening/watching their programming. Not so here… Clearly a number of people choked on their coffee this morning upon reading this headline and story.

Herrera: if the “main street media” is biased toward Obama, whhich sources are objective? Surely, not FOX and the Hannity crowd, ‘Seems like your definition of bias is biased.

I don’t know who you’re interviewing for these polls, ABC, but it’s sure as he!! not those of us in the heartland. Since you don’t bother to quote the poll questions exactly I’d venture a guess they were worded to get the result published here. The mainstream media is almost irrelevant these days, courtesy of stories like this.

Obama ..PASS THIS BILL

McConnell:: OK lets vote today Mr. president

Dingy Harry::::: NO NO NO

OBAMA________VS________AMERICA

Lorrie, if you are so intent on having an African-American President, vote for Herman Cain at least he is 100% African-American, and 1000% smarter than Barack Obama who is half white.

Obama cannot gain if his congress approval ratings (his closest allies) are in the toilet.

obama 2012. the only sane choice. let’s stymie the grand haters & lovers of unregulated business orgies which in result has f’d up our economy. give obama 4 more years & actually work with him this time repubs. people who stymie the process & make everyone wait 4 years till they get back in power deserve sh!t. & hopefully that’s what they will get. C’mon America let’s make the repubs have just deserts. the poor rich. the poor oil companies , poor big pharma, poor banks, poor wall street…they all need our help, & we need to slant everything so they get rich & we hope (can only hope) it trickles down into the mouths of the middle class & the poor.

JOHN: Where are those jobs the 700 billion create??? WHERE ARE THE JOBS that the tax Bush were to create??? Seriously, this is why there is much disapproval amongst the way republicans are handling the issue of jobs. Their ideology is not working. And besides I was always told by your side, extending the Bush tax cuts would save jobs, the stimulus did that and did create jobs, the issue not enough, there is job creation, but not enough, while Bush in Office the U.S. was shedding jobs. Our population is growing faster than jobs being produced. So where is your side with ideas? NADA, the president incorporated some of the republican ideas within his jobs proposals, they don’t like it, but at least do something that could be encouraged by most of us. Continue to spit out the same vitriol, some people are getting off of that cult addiction.

where are all the jobs your 700 billion dollar legislation was supposed to create. That legislation failed to create jobs—–well, that’s the thing. It did HELP. EVERY piece of evidence right down to GDP growth prove it. NO jobs bill can bring back ALL the jobs and get us down to 5% unemnployment again. What he CAN DO is help. Just help. A couple of points , but that translates into tens of millions of people having jobs, and that keeps us from getting too close to the edge for a fatal crash again. How about this fact–China invested 600 BILLION into their businesses for solar panel development. Billion. With a “B”. And…now they OWN that technology. They are cranking out solar panels and their GDP is growing from it and they have oodles and oodles of jobs. The tax cuts for the wealthy created NO JOBS, in fact, it was used to build factories OVERSEAS and resulted in JOB LOSS and it cost us…to date…..3 TRILLION!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! So, had we INVESTED 600 BILLION rather than threw away 3 TRILLION we would OWN the solar panel industry and be a world leader in manufacturing in this centuries next big energy technology. Obama has the righrt idea. ANd it will work in his small doses – most of the 700 billion was TaX CUTS, not spending BTW, sorry to bother you with those pesky facts, but the GOP plans, 3 TRILLION worth DO NOT WORK and even though the data is there tell ing you, showing you the results, you dont read it. The stimulus DID HELP!!! The Economist Magazine, BUsiness week, economists across the boards admit it HELPED, to what is was, a small amount to spend relative to the overall economy, yet you still claim it didn’t do anything. Tha’ts like saying because you tried to put out a forest fire with a bucket of water and it didn’t work, that therefore, water doesn’t put out fires. The biggest problem with the far right is your lack of knowledge. Thank goodness there’s only 20% of our population like this. The moderates and the liberals are more fact-oriented.

@phantommniter–actually, there were millions of jobs created after the Bush tax cuts. It just never gets reported by news outlests like ABC. That would kinda ruiin the whole “conservatives are for the rich narrative.” Yes, many of those jobs were slashed when the housing bubble collapsed. And your question, when has the conservative, capitlistic approach ever worked? Are you kidding me? What is your explanation for the United States prosperity relative to other, left leaning (western Europe) and outright communist nations (i.e., Cuba)?

Elsewhere the media is reporting Obama losing support. Strange.

BB: I don’t know if you are aware of this, but in 2008 Europe as a region became wealthier than the U.S., so what century are you living in?

People claiming to hate ABC commenting on… ABC… Guess you really like reading ABC. No need to hide it.

Precisely 10% job creation was due to Homeland security and its affiliates, 2004 interesting the major tax cut timing of the IRAQ invasion, the war jobs. He had the lowest growth amongst his predecessors.

Elsewhere the media is reporting Obama losing support. Strange.

POSTED BY: NEWCOUNTRYMAN | OCTOBER 5, 2011, 10:01 AM++I thought the exact same thing.

Who are you trying to kid here? The reason Congress is so low is because of Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi. Stop covering up for this President!

Republicans have been a scourge on this Nation for a long time and mere disapproval ratings don’t even come close to telling how upset the voters really feel about them.

Republicans have been a scourge on this Nation for a long time and mere disapproval ratings don’t even come close to telling how upset the voters really feel about them.

POSTED BY: DEMNME | OCTOBER 5, 2011, 10:18 AM++++Yeah they feel so bad about them that they are going to make Obama a one term president.

If you want to know what folks think of the teabaggers, look at the approval rating of congress. Congress is the tea bagger delight. The people gave the baggers a chance, and they (1) nearly shut down the government over a hissy fit over abortion and planned parenthood who supplies and enormous amount of heatlhcare for poor women (3% of their business is abortions) (2) They tried to take down sesame street and the only educational programming for children that is provided without brainwashing commercials (3) They refused to pay the bills, and were obtuse or uneducated not to realize that raising the debt limit was something you needed to do to PAY THE BILLS and that the budget process is where you work with the details of spending which resutled in (4) the credit rating of the US going down which (5) tanked the stock market wich (6) slowed down the growth of the GDP…..again. Along the way they voted against extending unemployment insurance for out of work workers or any retraining even though WE KNOW jobs have not been created for them to get to live on AND they foought tooth and nail to continue 300 BILLION more in debt per year, to give the ubber rich their tax cuts that have put us now over 3 TRILLION in debt and have not created one job. Stellar work! I know congress has 12% approval rating but I have to ask…who the heck IS that 12%?????? They shouldn’t even have that!

: Corporations are doing extremely well thanks to emerging middle class in Asia, —we have huge trade deficits with Asia. Of our GDP growth, not that much of it is from exports. China manipulating their currency, trying to keep it down, makes our products expensive to them. QE I and II actually helped our export situation, making our goods cheaper, particularly to europeans, however, now that their euro is tanking, our goods will look expensive again to them.

“The president’s problems, even within his own party, remain formidable; only 58 percent of Democrats in a new Washington Post-ABC News poll believe that he will be reelected. Many supporters remain skeptical of his tendency to seek compromise with Republicans, and recently he angered some black supporters by urging them to stop complaining.”

From the Washington Post this morning.

SECONDLOOK: Bush saw approximately 5 million NEW JOBS during his term. Clinton 23 million. Keep trying to spin things right. +++++++++++++ Actually bush had only 1.3 Million jobs created, WORST of ANY President since the thirty’s. Your numbers on Clinton are correct. Even Jimmy Carter had 14 Million jobs created when he served his ONE term. GHW Bush saw just a bit more than his son.

And we complain of the monetary manipulation, but they have our debt.—well, that’s why we want OUR money to worth less, relative to theirs. If they borrowed a dollar when our moneys were, one to one, then we must pay them back a dollar. If our dollar declines in value, to be worth only 80cent to their one, then we pay back only 80cents, while we borrowed a dollar! That way, we make 20 cents on the deal. So, they flood their country with more currency, lower the value of their currency, we buy up our bonds and flood our country with cash in response. WE can’t have them make our debt 20% or 40% more than it started out by currency manipulation. These details are the very things the right wingers dont understand. They complain about ‘printing money” like little children, without understanding that you need to look AT THE WHOLE PICTURE of what is happening all over the world and try your best to balance the at home situation with what is happening to us globally, and how THAT will eventually effect the at-home situation if we dont address it. This business of being in charge of the US economy is tricky stuff. CAn you imagine a brainless stooge like Perry having to deal with this stuff????? LOL!!! thank goodness he’s toast! have to run. good day.

DEMNME – I gave him the count before the recession took most of it away. I was being kind to republicans.

@ NEWCOUNTRYMAN=======58% is good… it’s only going to rise! Hold onto your hats Repubs! :-) Repubs are trying to hard to discredit Obama that they are making themselves look bad. LOL… that’s why I WILL REPEAT:================================================================

Republicans and Tea Heads are helping Obama win the office again! Keep acting like hate mongers… keep trying to destroy social security, keep trying to rig the voting system… keep refusing to sign the bill to create jobs…. keep giving tax breaks to the rich and the oil companies… don’t close the loop holes…. you are only shooting yourself in the head. Republicans will never get into the White House at this rate! LOL THANK YOU VERY MUCH!!! … GOTTA LOVE IT!

For those who see the GOP as racist…tell that to Herman Cain and Alan Keyes!

Gump needs a Grip: Manufacturing is essential for strength of any nation. An example Germany is resource poor, they survive on manufacturing of products and exports, with those manufacturing positions, come about the engineers, the accountants, the lawyers, the purchasing managers, the marketing strategists, R&D scientists, etc. When manufacturing gets stationed in China, who do you think gets employed as engineers? The Chinese, their American counterpart is paid at entry level $7,000/year, their American counterpart $60,000/year. Who do you think is employed for customer service? Certainly not in the U.S., and the irony those on the other line have an American accent, classes are taken to rid the accent of their native land.

or those who see the GOP as racist…tell that to Herman Cain =========== Some bagger on here said he was going to vote for Cain just so that people would stop calling baggers racists. So…..if you support for someone only because they’re black, isn’t that…..racist? The idea of NOT being racist means their race DOES NOT MATTER. hello????

From MSNBC this morning;

“Senate Democrats are scrambling to rewrite portions of President Barack Obama’s jobs bill, even as Obama tries to blame Republicans for Congress’ failure to act. Senate Republican leader Mitch McConnell moved to call the president’s bluff Tuesday by pushing for a quick Senate vote on the bill, but Democratic leader Harry Reid derailed the effort as all sides maneuvered for position in a potentially defining battle in the 2012 presidential campaign. In the Senate, Democrats made plans to jettison provisions that Obama recommended to pay for the $447 billion jobs bill, substituting them with a tax increase on millionaires, officials said. The officials spoke on condition of anonymity to discuss the closed-door developments.”

Somebody tell ALLEN that regardless of Obama’s poll numbers the republican congress is scoring the lowest.

POSTED BY: SECONDLOOK | OCTOBER 5, 2011, 10:35 AM+++Somebody tell Secondlook that Obama isn’t running against congress for reelection…..Bahahaha!!!!

I think we know, finally, how dangerous stupid is .——And yet, people voted the Tea Party in. But I guess maybe we needed them to show their true colors to know who they really were. The government shut down over abortion and going after Sesame street and NPR was pretty identifying. The credit default was so outrageous, though. I never thought they’d go that far. That was the nail in their coffin.

+Somebody tell Secondlook that Obama isn’t running against congress for reelection—-
Congress is seen as the Tea Party right now. It was the litmus test for how the Tea Party would rule. Didn’t end up so good.

Now remember everyone – only polls listed on Fox News are accurage and un-biased. LMAO
Many of the average working Americans are starting to realize that the GOP doesn’t care about making anything happen in this country – unless they happen to be in the White House. Sitting back in your chair and saying “this didn’t work – that didn’t work, blah blah blah” but not having any ideas except for reducing government regulation on business, reducing taxes on business (regardless of whether they create jobs for the USA) – WE THE AVERAGE WORKING AMERICANS REALIZE YOU DON’T HAVE A PLAN !!

LOL… Herman Cain is a businessman not a politician. He won’t make it to the White House for sure! A black republican… smh!

And if they want to make it difficult for college students to vote —this ‘occupy’ thing is interesting. The biggest things those kids should do is get more kids to vote. College tuition has gone up over 400% in 15 years for state schools. Ridiculous. the youth HAVE been screwed over more than any other demographic purely because they do not vote. Schools have less courses, parents have to pay so their kids can join a sport, Pell grants cut, every conceivable college loan cut, and then no jobs when they get out AND their generation will pay back this 14 TRILLION in debt and the kids who aren’t in college are fighting in the wars getting brain injuries and lost limbs. The youth of this generation, the college age kids, ARE getting SCREWED. If this doesn’t make them note en mass, I dont know what would.

They have a plan SAINTS FAN. It’s called “O.B.S.T.R.U.C.T.I.O.N.” Andddddd, countless bills policing my womb. Andddddd, putting some people over at the USPS out of work. Anddddd . . . sticking it to seniors and the poor. Andddddd .. …

Wow ALLEN, you showed her with that post. lol

Wow ALLEN, you showed her with that post. lol

POSTED BY: SECONDLOOK | OCTOBER 5, 2011, 10:56 AM++++Really? Thats the best you got? No surprise there …..

Herewegoagain: In my area, lots of young people join the military, love of country, also partly due to the fact they can’t afford college, good grades, great SAT scores, they take online courses and some depending on tour of duty actually attend classes within a university setting. One of the parents that I had been friendly with has a son, a perfect score on his math SAT, and stationed in Iraq (my guess they don’t put the geniuses on front lines per se-technical logistics area)

HEREWEGOAGAIN: ========================== SMART STILL DOESN’T MAKE HIM A POLITICIAN AND PRESIDENTIAL MATERIAL!!! —- TRY AGAIN!

HEREWEGOAGAIN: Kind of difficult for students to get the time off to vote in their respective state and polling station. Puts them in a difficult bind, the republicans know this, it’s called desperate on their part.

My panties are hardly in a wad. I fully comprehend you don’t quite get politics.

POSTED BY: SECONDLOOK | OCTOBER 5, 2011, 11:08 AM +++You telling newcountryman that is just hilarious…

These poll numbers are a useful tool to either side, they provide the info of how much money is needed to give to the propaganda machine for the next election.

FROM MSNBC:
“Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid stepped up to stop a vote in the Senate on the president’s measure, which had been requested by an obviously satisfied Republican Leader Mitch McConnell, because both men knew what the president cannot or will not admit— that he does not have enough votes within his own party, let alone from Republicans, to pass the bill he’s been hyping for weeks.

The last-minute move by Reid saved Obama from the immediate embarrassment of losing a battle inside the family, but it highlighted the gulf between Obama and Congressional Democrats, who now operate almost entirely apart from the White House and have, in many cases, decided that supporting their unpopular president today is not worth losing their own jobs next November. “

You guys can knock off trying to show opinion pieces off the MSNBC website as fact now.

What added substances do you put in your kool aid?

POSTED BY: PHANTOMNITER | OCTOBER 5, 2011, 11:15 AM=====Gallup Sept 8-11,2011….Looking ahead for the next few years which political party do you think will do a better job of: …1) Protecting the country from international terrorism and military threats……Repubs 49%,,,,,Dims 38%. 2) Keeping the country prosperous…Repubs 48%…….Dims 39%.

The tea party still has supporters, they will continue to be elected, called demographics, however, their numbers are waning considerably, thankfully. But is useful to know which districts would vote them in, the libertarian agenda.

“You guys can knock off trying to show opinion pieces off the MSNBC website as fact now.” I didn’t claim the MSNBC story was “fact”. I simply posted what they reported.

Newcountry – If MSNBC has a link to “The Daily Beast” for an opinion column it’s still an opinion column and not actual “news.” And like I said – they are BOTH taking this bill and using it for politics.

WHO GOT OSAMA??? NOT THE REPUBS… NUFF SAID!!!! LOL… TIME FOR LUNCH. GO TAKE A WALK RIGHT WINGERS… SOUNDS LIKE YOU NEED TO CLEAR YOUR HEADS!

ANOTHERDAY – Are you familiar with what the Associated Press is? They sell articles, and the MSM buys them. So, same article. Again, both sides are playing politics with this bill. No, all of the democrats weren’t on board due to a couple of things. So they’re rewriting it. And now hoping to frame it to where the GOP looks like they protect the top 1% at the expense of YOU. Whoop. This is politics. Happens all the time. Rather a non story really. No matter which team is doing the rewrite. So if you think this is some “gotcha” you’re mistaken. And is it a stretch to suggest frequently the democrats can’t get on the same page? Hardly. They are liberals and liberals tend to have more trouble making up their minds and agreeing. It’s why the GOP pounces their rear ends constantly. The right would do whatever they’re told.

PHRONETIC: Camping out? History always repeats itself time and time again, hmm, just don’t damn get it, the stuff that revolutions are made of, when disparities begin to rise so do the people. If disparities are do to unfairness and greed run amok, yeah they will camp out, this is just an early sign of things to come, continue to live in your bubble world and blame them and then act surprised when he!! breaks loose.

Another of ABC’s brainwashing attempts to make us believe the BO is doing his job, when in reality he’s simply robbing the candy store of more chocolates!!! Start telling the USA citizens the truth already! Why is it, if something negative is sent regarding BO, your comment comes on the screen “You’re typing too fast”. Another ploy to keep negative postings off of your pages???????

In other polls:

40% of people polled think the sun will rise in the west, 85% think a new poll will be out tomorrow to contradict this one, and 99% don’t trust politicians.

I wonder how much these polsters get paid for this crap.

So much for Obama being the great uniter.

POSTED BY: NEWCOUNTRYMAN | OCTOBER 5, 2011, 11:44 AM+++The only people buying into Obama’s rhetoric anymore is his base.

You are stupid if you can’t grasp they’ve been doing obstruction. One can look at their filibusters and their holds to easily know this. If one cares to look. Most do not.

LOL, here we have a poll commissioned by ABC and WAPO, the most liberal organizations in America, using a polling company run by a previous employee of ABC.

Further more it is a poll of “national adults” . There are NO indications as to the demographics used in this poll such as % of Rep, Dem, and Ind. We also don;t know where the calls were made. Inner city would be heavily Democrat suburbs would be more Conservative. The problem is without this info the poll is worse then useless, it is downright misleading.

The three methods of surveying for polls listed in order of accuracy are:

National Adults-least accurate

Registered Voters-much more accurate

Registered LIKELY voters-The most accurate by far.

As you can see this poll is what is considered a “push poll” in that it’s sole purpose is to create a reason to publish a story showing Obama is doing better although every other poll shows exactly the opposite with those polls of “Likely Voters” being his worst problem as they show a continuing and accelerating downtrend for him and the Democrats.

I now take everything Obama says with the proverbial grain of salt. Full re-election mode.

Ronald Reagan said that he would not approve of a sharp rise in the prices on gasoline and diesel. He thought that the American Electorate would remove him from office in 1984 or after.

PHANTOMNITER: There is a difference between disparity and jealousy. Economic cycles are…wait for it…cyclic. Up times are followed by down times followed once again by up times (not much different than climate cycles, just a shorter span). Trying to make some deeper philosophic or sociologic hay out of these cycles – as if supposed corporate greed or the selfish egoistic motives of the super rich are somehow driving a cyclic downturn in the economy – is just anthropomorphic. It’s silly. It’s senseless. When you have less money, spend less and work harder. When you have more money, respect the opportunity and value the moment, don’t waste it frivolously. People need to man up and take personal responsibility for their circumstances, and do the hard work to educate themselves and build success. There is no short cut. Quit camping out in protest and dive in to life. Life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness are our guaranteed protections. Happiness is on us. It cannot be given away. It certainly cannot be stolen.

If I had $1.00 for every obama lie I would be a millionaire now, I should have made this bet when he became president.

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