Rick Perry Endorser Calls Mormonism A ‘Cult’ And Planned Parenthood A ‘Slaughterhouse For The Unborn’

I love it! I love it! Let these crazy right wing nuts “eat each other”! Obama will be re-elected in a cakewalk!! LOL! LOL!

Mike Huckabee 2 is in the HOUSE!

These aren’t derogatory terms ,they are descriptive terms.

It begins as a whisper then someone yells….MAGIC UNDERWEAR. Go get the popcorn the media has been running from this but they just unearthed the unspeakable for Repubs. Sorry Magic Man Mitt not down south…..not down south.

This guy Jeffress is one of those fanatical, scary people, who in long ago times would have been in Salem burning “witches”. Though I’m not a Mormon and I certainly don’t believe in that whole Joseph Smith story, etc., I do happen to know several Mormons who are very decent, honorable people. They DO believe in Jesus, hence the real name of their church : The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints. Perhaps this guy Jeffress needs to practice some of that Christianity he likes to preach, you know. “love one another as I do you”, “let those without sin cast the first stone”, etc.

Neither accusation is the right thing to do.

No religion is “better” than another. (Frankly all religion is nonsense.)

Planned Parenthood is a very important service to provide counseling and options to women, in keeping their lives under control. Attacking them, for religious reasons, which is what is happening here, is totally wrong. Keep the religious discussion in the church, not in government, where it absolutely does NOT belong.

“Do we want a candidate who is a good, moral person — or one who is a born-again follower of the lord Jesus Christ?”

So, since Perry is a “born-again”, he must not be a good, moral person. Right? This foolish preacher-man doesn’t even know what he’s saying!

Both Mitt Romney and Jon Huntsman are grandsons of Mormon Apostles. Mitt Romneys family were big time polygamists and manipulative cult leaders for much longer than Mormons agree that their leaders were polygamists. In fact the leaders of the Mormon church are typically only chosen from the polygamist families whose leaders had more than six wives. Most Mormons don’t realize this because their leaders do not publish which of their leaders are cousins or grandsons or nephews to each other.

No, Pastor Jeffress, you have your facts wrong about what Mormons believe. You haven’t done your homework. You’ve just taken the distortions, misconceptions, and outright lies about Mormons as your own without even checking to see if what you’ve heard was true.

You say, “(Jesus Christ)’s a historical figure but to say that he died for the sins of individuals and to believe that faith alone in him is the only way to be saved, no Mormons don’t embrace that.” Sorry… Latter-day Saints (who have been nick-named ‘Mormons’ by their detractors) absolutely believe in Jesus Christ. They absolutely believe that Christ dies for the sins of individuals. They absolutely believe that faith in Jesus Christ is the only way to be saved.

You say, “they have never been considered by evangelical Christians to be a part of the Christian faith.” While that is probably true, it is because the Latter-day Saints disagree with some traditional teachings of Evangelical Christians. Differences in interpretation of various scriptures are why there are so many different versions (churches) of Christianity today. Evangelical Christians don’t agree with the Roman Catholic Church’s teachings either – by that definition, they, too must be a cult – so, too, must every other Christian Church that isn’t a member of the Evangelical “Club”. This seems to be reinforced by your continued statement, “it’s about embracing the views of historic evangelical Christianity, which Mormons don’t.” Yep, Catholics, Lutherans, etc. must be cults as well. You go on to say, “he is not quote, “a Christian,” because he does not embrace the historic tenets of evangelical Christianity.” Well, it certainly appears more accurate to say, he is not an “Evangelical Christian”. Even within the Baptist Cult – er.. Church – differences in interpretation of scriptures is common and one congregation’s Pastor may not agree with the next congregation’s Pastor – are they cults, also?

Pastor Jeffress might be surprised to find out that Latter-day Saints also believe that Baptism must be done by immersion and that they do not baptize infants – two of the cornerstones of the Baptist edition of Christianity. The Latter-day Saints also believe in Chastity before marriage and absolute fidelity in marriage. They also believe in the sanctity of human life and condemn abortion in all but the most extenuating circumstances such as the mother would die if the pregnancy continued. There’s probably a lot more common ground than he thinks!

This is not news. Walk into any Christian bookstore and the only place you will find books about Mormonism and Latter-Day Saints is in the Cult section. This therefore is why they have their own bookstores.

Let me ask Mormons a question:
What is the to heaven for a Mormon?
Jesus Christ said that He was the ONLY way to the Father in heaven.
If Mormons do not believe this, then Mormonism is totally distinct from those
that follow Christ (Christians). Ask yourself that honest question.

The good Pastor is absolutely correct about Mormonism and Mitt Romney. They give lip service to the idea that they believe in Jesus Christ, but their Jesus is not the Jesus of the New Testament.

Here are two Biblical proofs of that fact:

1. Mormons’ 3rd Article of Faith states: “We believe that through the atonement of Christ all mankind MAY be saved BY OBEDIENCE TO THE LAWS AND ORDINANCES OF THE GOSPEL.”

Any true Christian knows there are NO “laws and ordinances of the gospel.” The gospel is simply the good news that Jesus paid for sin and rose from the dead. Period. If salvation comes by obedience, then it is earned, not given as a free gift by Jesus Christ. Mormons believe they can earn their salvation, making them their own saviors, not Jesus Christ as their savior. And if “laws and ordinances” can provide salvation, then everything Paul wrote is false, according to Mormons. Paul repeatedly wrote that there is no salvation by the law (Torah). Indeed, as Galatians 3:17 clearly states, the promise of salvation to Abraham had nothing to do with the law, especially since the law did not come until over 400 years after the promise of salvation was given to Abraham. This fact Jesus knew full well, as did Paul. There is no salvation in “laws and ordinances” as the Mormons assert.

2. The Jesus of Mormonism is believed to have stopped by America after his death on the cross and before his resurrection and ascension into heaven. So, according to Mormonism, their Jesus, who when He was alive preached nothing but peace, when He visits the “Nephites” in ancient America, brags about destroying the inhabitants (men, women, and children) of 16 large cities, then threatens the survivors with destruction is they don’t fall down and worship him. Such a bloodthirsty, violent Jesus is NOT the Jesus of the New Testament, no matter what Mormons say.

I repeat, the Pastor is right. Mormons do not truly believe Jesus is their Savior, and their Jesus is a violent, bloodthirsty pagan god, not the true Jesus of the New Testament.

I LOVE IT!!! Mormon church members (mostly republicans) (mostly hannity, limbaugh, beck lovers) are going to find out what the rest of the world really thinks about them. Can’t hide any longer!!!!

Dan | October 8, 2011, 4:14 am 4:14 am
History is defined as: “A continuous record of past events.” Pick up an unbiased history book and you might find that no group or followers of any religion has a peaceful history.
Yes Mormons have committed atrocities in the name of God. So have other Christians as well as Jews and Muslims. You can’t escape the fact that humans are a violent species and often incapable of using a mirror.

I love it. The battle of the cults. My god’s better than your god.
Sounds like little boys talking about their dad’s. Grow up.

These fairy tales have no business in politics.

Notice how none of these “values voters” are condemning the woman hating attack on Planned Parenthood.

why did mine not post yet?

Churches that endorse political candidates should lose the tax exempt status they should never have been granted in the first place!

Wow, I have just read all of these comments. I am amazed at the diversity of thinking. We live in America, where we have that freeedom. Which also means we have the freeedom of religion, which does not mean freedom from the existance of religion. It is a part of who we all are, whether we are participants or bystanders. My comments are directed towards those who are inclind to participate. While not to exclude non believers out of disrespect, I do so because you have no vested interest in this discussion, it is not really political and that is your point of interest. No offense intended. It doesn’t matter what name you give to Diety or God. He is who he is! It doesn’t matter what you think he looks like. He looks like what he looks like. I doesn’t matter so much what you think his teachings are. They are what they are! Our challenge is to do our best to live up to what we know and practice what we believe he teaches. …cont

Hope everyone is ready to have there pockets picked clean and there bank accounts emptied by Obama for the next 4 years…………………………………………………………

ta;lk about the pot callin the kettle black!!! LOL!! yeah, nothing like a guy who calls for a stadium to be filled to pray for rain talking about cults, huh? Ha!!! hate to tell ya, most of this country sees Evangelical Christians as CULTS! Just reminds US how crazy YOU ALL are. tee hee hee.

More evangelicals need to take a look at themselves —and ask themselves, ya think YOU aren’t a cult????? LOL!

This preacher making ignorant comments and about religion, lacks credibility & respect if you ask me. Unfortunately in politics tt’s what can work and if we allow the religion put downs to propel Perry up, it only fuels the ignorance. Hope Romney has both gloves on this time, nothing wrong with LDS or Morman. to bad there is the stigma. There is good & not so good in all walks of life. I hope something good comes of this religious debate

I am definitely not a Rick Perry supporter, so this scares the heck out of me. I mean Barack Obama had a controversial pastor, and look where that got him !!

Are Mormons Christian?

It is interesting to observe the “traditional Christians” squabble over who is, and who is not a “christian” and what defines who is.

If one delves into the fundamental doctrines of all accepted “Christian” churches one quickly sees a broad spectrum of divergent incongruous beliefs on such basic tenets as the method of baptism, priesthood celibacy, the natures of God, Christ and the Holy Spirit, the reality of Christ and the atonement, etc, etc, etc.

All proclaim an authoritative stance rooted in scripture and mortal interpretation. Each asserts their view to be the “correct” interpretation of holy writ.

What unites all “Christians”, and is the only real test of Christianity, is a fundamental belief that Jesus Christ, whether a manifestation of a trinity or a being separate from and an offspring of God, is the Savior of mankind; that only through Him can salvation be attained.

In this, The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints is unequivocal in its proclamation. He is who He claimed, and only through Him and His atonement can we return to God. Therefore, they must be “Christian”.

Um, Mr. Barbour, Mr. Will, I believe Ms. Amanpour asked you if the WINNER of the VVS straw poll was having his moment. The winner of the poll was a gentleman you seem not to heard of, a Texas Congressman by the name of Ron Paul, just as the lady said just before you both spoke.

Were the two of you sharing a ‘moment’ of your own–specifically a ‘senior moment’?

Today’s ‘political mess’ is adirect result of the two decade effort of the GOP strategists (like that scum Karl Rove) to mobilize the ‘evangelical sector’ of the South and ‘harness’ their dumbed down right wing stupidity. And unfortunately for the nation’s health and future….it worked.

So according to Jeffress, we should pick the christian candidate over the non-christian candidate regardless of qualifications as long as they’re both republican, but we should pick the non-christian candidate over the christian candidate if the former is a republican and the latter a democrat. So I guess he’s saying that the republican status of the non-christian trumps the christian status of the democrat, but christian status trumps qualifications if they’re both republicans. Whew! Now if he would just explain WHY that should be the case, I might understand.

Of course when you’re trying to pit the 1.97 GPA Perry over the Harvard MBA/Attorney Romney, you really don’t want to draw attention to the qualifications between the two.

Why is it that Christians, who were specifically told in their bible by their lord, “Judge not, lest ye be judged”, always come across as the MOST judgmental and intolerant group of people around…?

Posted by: Searambler
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Your own intolerance is showing Searambler. This was ONE minister. Are you saying EVERY last Christian believes the way this minister believes?

Not a single Republican candidate agrees with this minister, not even Perry.

Maybe YOU can answer for Obama’s minister who said “God D___ America” or Obama’s very good friend Bill Ayers who stomped on the American flag a day after 9/11. Are those acts of “tolerance”?

I was watching world news about m.romney and not once was it mentioned that he belongs to the church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints…..David what’s with that???

This headline, is not honest. Just because the person who made this outrageous comment, introduced Perry, does NOT mean Perry had anything to do with it, whatsoever.

ABC has been soooooooo biased towards the Democrats, you can hardly call their reporting “journalism”, but rather campaigning for Obama. Journalists are fair and balanced, not lopsided to one side or the other.

Since ABC’s reporters all tend to exhibit this support of the Democrats, and take an adversarial role towards the GOP, the public needs to take notice, that freedom becomes endangered, when this kind of activity is occurring.

Maybe, it is a cult. I do not know. Only God knows. I am stupid. I do not know. I hope it s a cult. It will give me hope.