Ron Paul Says Obama Has Committed an Impeachable Offense

Ron Paul is 100% correct…say the government suspected you of something and instead of taking you to trial they just decided to drone your house? But since it didn’t happen on american soil some people really don’t care… I’m not saying al awlaki wsnt guilty but everyone deserves a fair trial US citizen or not. We need to put a stop to ll this warmongering…hell even better yet what would you say if a foriegn country got a Drone over here and targeted your nieghbor? America would push for war would we not… so how do you think these other countries feel wit america using militry force wit impunity on their soil? Just askin… no politics just common sense

Ron Paul is a simpleton and @Peter, you may call it warmongering and I see it as protecting America from terrorists. This person you and Ron Paul feverishly defend was a terrorist that to me gave up his citizenship by joining a organization that wants to do us harm. Ron Pual and you would be singing a different song if terrorists was able to get in and do what they set out to do. Another thing I see is double standards, if Bush done it, nothing would be said, but Obama did it and he is supposely wrong.
Ron Paul is a geriatric person who I would never vote into office. Kudos to Obama for what he did.

All you Monday morning quarterbacks would be cheering at the top of your lungs if it had been Bush who offed this most vile of people. Don’t start waving the Constitution and American flag in everyone’s faces. You’re looking for any excuse to remove this President from office. You guys were probably yelling at Obama a couple of years ago when he said he wanted the prisoners at Gitmo tried in court. Or don’t you believe those people being held are allowed a fair trail, citizens or not? You’re two-faced, plain and simple.

Well I can cross off Ron on my ballot. I swear americans are dumber than rocks. You want something one way and if someone does follow the letter of the law, and something bad happens then you scream forget the law, we want revenge. Once ali-whacky threw his lot in with bend-over-laden, his citzenship ceased and he became a traitor, plain and simple. His wasn’t just an off-handed remark, there was verifiable evidence and his fingerpints on the plots, what more evidence do you flag wavers need?

al-Awlaki gave us his rights when he became a Terrorist, plotting to kill his fellow Americans. Stop whinning, another al-Qaeda leader is dead…period, and I really don’t care how he was killed.

Ron Paul is right on point! Btw, I put Ron Paul in my original comment and it told me i was posting to fast and to slow down…yet it was my one and only comment. The media is crazy afraid of us voting for this guy.

Ron Paul is right.

President Obama’s Oil Spill response, Arming Mexican Drug Cartels with American weapons in hopes the backlash damages the 2nd Amendment, Solyndra, Droning an American citizen, etc etc

what’s next ???

I get the argument …, but I think people are conveniently forgetting who this guy was, and what he was all about.
“supposed evidence… no evidence” look it up ! It was pretty clear. You’ll find him on youtube saying everything needed to be said. He was a bad guy who wanted to kill us. He didn’t want to bring us to court.

Ron Paul is right, and mob rule should not decide what happens. Obama should follow the rule of law and put Awlaki through the process then punish him. You’re clueless and a radical extremist if you think Americans should be targeted for assassination based on accusation alone. You idiots realize the liberals in office believe that people who carry the constitution in their car, want to end the Fed and want Obamacare over turned should be recognized as homegrown terrorists right? Should they start targeting Tea Party activists based on accusition alone. Please turn your brains on and look into some traditional conservatism neo-cons. Just because people THINK Awlaki gave up his citizenship does not mean he OFFICIALLY did so.

So all you supposed “conservatives” are ok with killing “terrorists” wherever and however we can right? I will bet you are sure glad that the govt. would NEVER use this against you. I mean, it would just be terrible if you ex military…or disenchanted voters….or tea party people were named possible terrorists by the DHS in a memo. Because then they could use the Patriot Act to watch, investigate and tap your……..oh wait……they already did that in 2009……….NEVERMIND! Nothing to see here folks move along.

How long have they been watching you already?

So who decides when someone forfeits their citizenship rights?

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According to LONEWOLF above it is him LOL

This is the first time I have disagreed with Ron. This guy needed to be wiped off the earth.

And right here is the PERFECT EXAMPLE of why Ron Paul.is unelectable on the national stage….just like Rick Perry. They are not smart enough from a ‘world perspective’. They are ‘small-time’ politicians with small, narrow minds and only appeal; to voters of ‘like mentality’.

I’m very torn on this issue. While I believe that Representative Paul is correct from a legal standpoint, I believe that President Obama has the right and responsibility to protect us from our sworn enemies. If al-Awlaki was approaching a police officer with a gun, then that officer would have the right to shoot him in self-defense. I find al-Awlaki’s ultimate demise no different. al-Awlaki never denied he was a terrorist. In fact, he seemed to relish his role in al-Qaeda. If al-Awlaki had claimed innocence, then I believe he should have been given his day in court. But ultimately, I believe that President Obama not only had the right to take out this terrorist, but also the responsibility to do it.

Brian said: “… anyone who wants to support the unilateral killing of people BEFORE any charges, trial and evidence need to ave their head examined… you may be next…”

If I act in the manner of al-Awlaki, I’ll DESERVE to be next. See, the thing is, I abide by the laws of the land and both support and respect my country, so I don’t think I’ll have to worry too much about that.

Some of you who advocate government sponsored lynch mob justice should watch the movie “The Siege” (1998). In particular, you should watch the ending – the confrontation between FBI agent Anthony Hubbard (Denzel Washington) and Major General William Devereaux (Bruce Willis).

Actually, I think that everyone should see this movie. It sends a clear and very important message about the times we live in.

Hilarious stuff. These tea party types seem offended because a black man has accomplished during his short time in office what a redneck said was his number 1 priority during 8 years in office while they did nothing but string us along while Halliburton cashed in. The only courage demonstrated by the previous draft dodging admin and tea party types is their eagerness to spend US lives to extort money from their citizens.

LIBERTY2012 pondered: “What if …?”

Got no time for “What if…” – My family and I live and deal in the here and now.

@ MOBY…I guess you didn’t see all of his response or the context. He said that EVERY president has committed some type of impeachable offense since he’s been in office.

What Ron Paul may say come off unusual, until you realize that a few years back the southern poverty law center actually stated that third party voters such as those who vote for Ron Paul and tea party tend to be terrorists. Its a slippery slope. Can we the people now kill someone we know to be a terrorist without due process and not be punished?

What if a Republican becomes president and decides that PETA and those Americans who go after Japanese whaling ships are terrorists because Japan who holds a LOT of American bonds pushes the US to attack them on open waters?

Please write your congressional representative that you are not in favor of the Presidents vigilante justice against American citizens. Ask them to voice their concerns of the President’s disregard for the Constitution and the law in assassinating American citizens without due process.

So did Timothy McVeigh also give up his rights as a citizen? Should we just have assasinated him?

Please see the actual Interview with Megyn Kelly on Ron Paul’s campaign website, and you will realize just how much the media is distorting his statements. Paul is a threat to the status quo and big media is like a scared animal backed into the corner.

They can’t get any real dirt on Ron Paul like the other candidates, so they have to manufacture drama in order to discredit him. I guess completely ignoring him wasn’t enough to keep him down!

Dr. Paul has a lifetime of consistent, sound reasoning – something no other candidate has. Read and listen to him in his own words and you’ll find truth, rather than the garbage the media wants to shove down your throat.

Ron Paul is right….again.

Just because you think the guy should have lost his citizenship does not make it automatic. Yes, he was a bad man but the government can’t go around assassinating people. Ask the Jews how it worked out for them in Germany.

Ron Paul 2012!!!! Long live America & the Constitution!!

You got to love the media. The headline makes it sound like Ron Paul is trying to get the President Impeached. The REAL story is just that he actually truthfully answered to a question at a town hall meeting. He went on to say every president in his life time has violated the constitution in one way or other. I believe he is absolutely right here. Sure al-Awlaki was bad, but the ends do not justify the means. No evidence will be disclosed, so basically we have to trust the Government that it was justified and they had overwhelming proof. Of course, the Government has never been wrong before.

Anyone who defends this killing is certifiably insane.
You lose your citizenship when you RENOUNCE it – not through joining some group. What if the government referred to Tea Partiers, gun owners, and veterans as terrorists and put them on a similar list?
Oh wait – THEY DID.
Every last drone that defends trialess killing of Americans should renounce their citizenship and leave the country. If you don’t respect the Constitution, you have no place in America.

Hmmmm, let’s see….Isn’t there an article of the Constitution that stats “…any person or persons that plot the overthrow of the U.S Government by violent means, and/or conspires with foreign governments to do the same are guilty of treason…where U.S. citizens, by birth or naturalization, hold dual-citizenship with a foreign country, by birth or laws of said country, plots or conspires by terrorist actions, to kill maim or overthrow the U.S. is guilty of treason and forfeits the rights of citizenship in the U.S. and are subject to the laws and punishment of the U.S…”paraphrased in most areas.
Either damn way, evidence has been show where al Awlacki conspired with and instructed U.S Army Major Nidal Hasan in the shootings at Fort Hood to maximize the deaths. Class dismissed, Moron liberals
Posted by: nabi2007 | October 5, 2011, 9:12 am 9:12 am

Yeah, it also says:
Section. 3.Treason against the United States shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort. No Person shall be convicted of Treason unless on the Testimony of two Witnesses to the same overt Act, or on Confession in open Court. The Congress shall have Power to declare the Punishment of Treason, but no Attainder of Treason shall work Corruption of Blood, or Forfeiture except during the Life of the Person attainted
AND:
Article the seventh [Amendment V]

No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a Grand Jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the Militia, when in actual service in time of War or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offence to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation.

Article the eighth [Amendment VI]

In all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall enjoy the right to a speedy and public trial, by an impartial jury of the State and district wherein the crime shall have been committed, which district shall have been previously ascertained by law, and to be informed of the nature and cause of the accusation; to be confronted with the witnesses against him; to have compulsory process for obtaining witnesses in his favor, and to have the Assistance of Counsel for his defense.

So he is a terrorist and he gave up his rights when he became a terrorist?? How do any of you know he was a terrorist? who told you? how do you know they are correct? how do you know that’s the truth? how do you know its not just a manufactured convenience? were you a victim of a direct act of terrorism perpetuated by this man? If any society wants to remain free we must be taught distrust and skepticism of what we are told blind faith makes you sheep easily manipulated to be pawns of what you hear and what you are told is the truth and you will be used for someone’s agenda.

Ron Paul is not feverishly defending this guy as some of you claim he is defending the path that protects everyone’s liberty and a bit of morality and believes he is guilty and a bad guy. If you like judgements delivered at gun point, hell at a death from above drone attack on any soil you stand on then make me commander and chief I am sure I wont label you a terrorist (and have u killed) who would believe me? oh right all the sheep here would lol silly pawns so easily manipulated to support tyranny… IN the end he would have got what was coming to him….

The President does not decide who lives and who dies, that is for the courts. If the President is above the law then you have a Dictatorship. It is irrelevant whether or not an alleged terrorist has any intent to kill. Why didn’t the government capture him and interogate him to go after the big fish? Could it be because this guy was virtually unknown outside the US? This is just a false flag to scare you into believing that you need Big Brother’s protection so that the police state can be justified. The price you will pay for this is surfdom. Goodbye America – land of the free?

Ron Paul is correct, put people on trial and may be hang them in public. But this assassination business puts a very bad example.

Don’t the politicians take an oath to uphold the constitution? The CIA is merely acting out policy formed by congressional leaders who have corruption written all over their faces. The 5th amendment matters. This guy could have benn tried iin absentia, found guilty, and then done away with. Ron Paul is correct on this and many other issues.

Ron Paul is correct about the killing because this man, scum of the earth that he was, was an American Citizen. Contrary to belief, his citizenship was not renounced, nor do you automatically renouce your citizenship when you become a member of a terrorist organization. He deserved due process, just like any other American citizen has the right to have. If we start picking and choosing which citizens we give rights to, we are completely ignoring the Consititution and are further eroding our freedoms. The argument that forces would not have the ability to capture him on foreign soil is lame. Our SEALS captured bin Laden and our military forces captured Saddam. Both were brought out of their respective hidey-holes alive. It is not impossible to do and while I don’t have hard numbers it probably cost less money to do it with military personnel rather than drone attacks. The precedent has been set. If Obama or any other President down the road can choose to kill an American citizen based on his organization affiliations, what do you think they can do to you? By allowing this action to go unanswered, you are allowing the powers that be to target others, maybe even yourself, in the same fashion. Next thing you know, people will start getting knocked off for not believing the same way the administration does. It happens in other countries all over the world all the time and it will happen here,in time, if we let this go without a fight

Ron Paul is right. Recently, the FBI and federal prosecutors listed Bernard Von Nothaus as a domestic terrorist for selling collectible silver coins, claiming he was counterfeiting even though the coins bore no resemblance to US currency. Recent terrorism legislation has defined terrorism as “the use, planned use, or threatened use, of force or violence […] to intimidate or coerce the United States government, the civilian population of the United States, or any segment thereof, in furtherance of political or social objectives.” Notice they differentiate force and violence. Non-violent protesters who stage a march which blocks traffic could be said to be using force in furtherance of political or social objectives. So counterfeiting and protesting are terrorism? We need to run government on principles, not secret ‘intelligence’ from people who said there were WMDs in Iraq and the Gulf of Tonkin was real.

AARON if the US government is at war with its own civilians then let it declare it. Only in wartime are these powers granted.

Ron Paul is 100% right. When the Government can convict People to death without a trial that is one of the most dangerous precedents to set. The 4th amendment Due Process of Law. You can say what ever you want about how this guy did this and how he did that but this is hear say. We prove all allegations in a court of law not in the Media! Wake up commrades this isn’t The USSR or Nazi Germany!

So many people willing to slowly give up their constitutional rights… please can u people stop having your heads up your asses and realizes what kind of precedent this sets…I suppose we should get start shooting every person who has been accused of murder in the US too, does not matter if they are innocent they will just be dead. Hey how about we shoot Ron Paul, he seems like a big threat to the FED and Obama so he must be a terrorist to… And then I myself will get killed because I believe in freedom, not my life being controlled by the fed, the media, and big business. Stop listening to the media, stop listening to Obama, stop listening to everyone. Go read the constitution and ask yourself this, does this country today resemble ANYTHING that founding fathers wanted?

This liberal lynching has proven Obama to be the ultimate uniter of both wings of the US of Americans lawless and bloodthirsty society. Even Obama’s cousin Dick is ready to join hands–but only if Obama apologizes for comments from 3 years ago that hurt Dick’s feelings questioning that he may have gone a little too far with his tortures, murders, and snuff films.

“See the old folks
tied in white ropes
Hear the banjo.
Don’t it take you down home?”

Rick McDaniel – Hopefully you are kidding. It’s that 5th Amendment thingy.

Talmag- The whole medical care thing is hopeless. Americans each garbage that the USDA and FDA give their stamp of approval to. Since Americans eat garbage they need all sorts of drugs peddled by Big Pharma to keep their tickers going. So just forget the healthcare thing. There is no fix.

On this whole assasination thing….we have been following him for months, probably longer. That is plenty of time to bring up charges and prosecute in absentia, possibly even revoking citizenship. You are wrong, Ron Paul is correct.

Jason! You did it! Reporting the facts, and just the facts, ma’am. That’s good journalism. This is what we want from professional journalists. Looks like the pressure of all those commenting on your unprofessional previous negative slants, inaccurate quotes and false headlines about Ron Paul has brought you some questioning of the impact of your actions on your professional journalistic reputation. ABC News won’t be around forever. The “mainstream” is changing and wants the truth. Thanks for seeing the advantage of running with the new mammals and breaking with the doomed practices of the dinosaur media. You did this one time here – hopefully, it is the way you will do things in the future.

I just wonder if one day the KKK or the black panthers could be called terrorist? remember Mcvey was a terrorsst? So will this give the all these people in DC with no IQ the right to ah drone bomb us? Oh why not? you think cause this guy was brown it is diffrent? One mans terrorist is another mans hero.. All depends on who is being terrorized… I will be LMFAO when the first drone drops in america all the sheep will be crying its just not fair… Whats not fair is we live in a nation with IQless sheep…. that is whats not fair that i have to live around such ignorant people! Americans!

Ron Paul is right and all those who disagree are wrong and really your view of the world is wrong. People from other countries love Ron Paul because he stands for liberity, freedom, and honor. He isnt here trying to screw other countries over to make the US better, he wants the US to have morals agian and to set and example of why we are the country of the just and free. Everyone should be given a trial when we are not at war, and no we arent at war we havent declared war since 1941. Also you go to war with a country not a person…. This is the first time in our countrys history we have killed someone without approval from the congress or the people without any attempt to capture the person. We tried nazis…… This is more of the government pushing their boundrys and taking away freedom. The guy deserved to die, Ron Paul is not saying he didnt, but we have law stick to it and attempt to bring him in and try him. Stop believing the medias lies watch Ron Pauls you-tube videos and listen to him about subjects. He is speaking the truth and trying to help us, stop letting Goldman sacs and their puppets controll you and your childrens futures anymore.

If this is not addressed, this means the President can murder anyone at anytime for any reason. Does anyone really think this is a good idea ?

Article 3, section 3 specifically spells out the constitutional procedures in regards to treason. Nowhere does it say that citizenship is revoked when a citizen aligns with an enemy of the state. It does say that Congress gets to decide the penalty. I wonder why so many Americans love Obama more than the Constitution?

Everyone calling the killed person “a terrorist” : source, please?
All I “know” about him comes from executive branch of power and had never been put to test by either jurors or the Congress. I have little doubt the Congress would rubber-stump the authorization: the scary part is that the administration did not feel obliged to ask. They are just bragging with this killing — how abhorring is that?

By contrast, the Congress tested the Bush’s case against Osama Bin Laden and essentially gave him green light to go after him. Not to mention that Osama Bin Laden was not an American citizen.

Now such a claim can be made about any of us — and we won’t be given an opportunity to call our lawyer. We will just disappear with little or no noise — how convenient is that? Get awaken until it’s too late.

The American psychy is not educated to understand the most basic social principles. Ron Paul supporters are consistently the exception. They understand that, in a civilized society, you don’t have to agree with what someone says or does, but you have to respect their rights until it’s been proven that they have violated or made a credible threat to violate someone else’s rights. They also do not play party politics. I can’t say I’ve heard another Ron Paul supporter judge Obama and then support Bush. Nor have I ever heard a Ron Paul supporter cry for help from the law or the gov. when they failed to take personal responsibility for themselves. They tend to be the most informed – not only can a Ron Paul supporter tell in great detail everything about his platform from economic, to monetary to foreign policy – most likely so can their kids! They are the informed voters that every American has a responsiblity to be but isn’t.

Keep in mind, the difference between al-awlaki and bin laden are that al-awlaki was still an AMERICAN CITIZEN.

If the president can drone attack any american so long as it’s not on american soil, then whats next? Maybe Paul is right about the border fence being used to keep us in, and if we do get out, Mr. President can just kill us.

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