VP Biden Wishes Opponents of More Police Funding Had Some Notion of What It’s Like to Have a 200-Pound Man Standing Over Them Telling Them to Submit
EmailNORTH CHESTERFIELD, Va. – President Obama’s $447 billion jobs bill would provide roughly $30 billion in aid to state and local governments to help retain about 400,000 teachers at risk of being fired because of budget cuts, and an additional $5 billion to help local governments keep about 18,000 police officers and 7,000 firefighters on the job. For that reason, President Obama has spent much of his bus tour this week visiting schools and communities colleges, and Wednesday afternoon he will make remarks at Fire Station No. 9 here in North Chesterfield, Virginia.
Vice President Biden — who in the Senate in 1994 authored the COPS bill providing funding for 88,000 additional police officers – has been making the case as well, in his somewhat more passionate style.
In Philadelphia on Tuesday, standing with Philadelphia Police Commissioner Charles Ramsey and other officers at Houston Hall at the University of Pennsylvania, the vice president said that one argument he’s “heard from my friends who oppose” the jobs bill is that “this is just temporary.”
“Well let me tell you, it’s not temporary when that 911 call comes in and a woman’s being raped if a cop shows up in time to prevent the rape,” he continued. “It’s not temporary to that woman.
“It’s not temporary to the guy whose store is being held up and a gun is being pointed to his head,” he continued, “if a cop shows up and he’s not killed, that’s not temporary to that store owner.
“Give me a break, ‘temporary’!” the Veep said. “I wish these guys that thought it’s temporary, I wish they had some notion what it’s like to be on the other side of a gun. Or a 200 pound man standing over you telling you to submit. Folks, it matters. It matters!”
A senior administration official says “The Vice President was talking about the serious nature of a crime. He was clearly making the point that a delayed response from the police could result in even more serious consequences of the crime.”
In Flint, Michigan, last week, the vice president said, “if anyone listening doubts whether there’s a direct correlation between the reduction in cops and firefighters and the rise in concerns in public safety, they need look no further than your city, Mr. Mayor…
“Let’s look at the facts: in 2008, when Flint had 265 sworn officers on their police force, there were 35 murders and 91 rapes in this city,” the Vice President said. “In 2010, when Flint had only 144 police officers, the murder rate climbed to 65 and rapes–just to pick two categories–climbed to 229. In 2011, you now only have 125 shields.”
“God only knows what the numbers will be this year for Flint if we don’t rectify it,” he said. “And God only knows what that number would have been had we not been able to get a little bit of help to you.”
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That is what CCW permits and the 2nd Amendment is for, the police are never there when you need them anyway they just pick up the pieces afterwards.
Posted by: snewsom2997 | October 19, 2011, 2:58 pm 2:58 pm
So, basically we’re supposed to just hand some $35 billion in tax dollars to the unions so they can turn around and give it back to the Dems. Pardon me if I tell this idiotic VP to go to h*ll.
Posted by: JakeTaylor | October 19, 2011, 3:06 pm 3:06 pm
Send those kids to Sidwell. They will be safe.
Posted by: Chelsea | October 19, 2011, 3:11 pm 3:11 pm
Perhaps Biden should stop letting Obama get that close.
Posted by: Rick McDaniel | October 19, 2011, 3:18 pm 3:18 pm
Dayne Walling, Democrat.
Posted by: PCU | October 19, 2011, 3:19 pm 3:19 pm
So murder in Flint went up from 2008 to 2010. But it only went up because there were fewer cops? Nothing else was going on during that time frame? So then, why didn’t Flint hire more cops? Flint didn’t need federal approval or money to hire more cops.
Posted by: Zaggs | October 19, 2011, 3:19 pm 3:19 pm
Good grief. We have dumb and dumber posing as Pres. and VP. Biden’s scare tactics are embarrassing. It is time for the federal government to get out of state’s business. Teachers, firefighters, policemen, and politicians need to pay for their own retirement. Just like the rest of us.
Posted by: wheresmymoney | October 19, 2011, 3:27 pm 3:27 pm
Seattle Occupier Busted Exposing Himself to Children…
I’m on thier side..Obama
Posted by: thelma lou | October 19, 2011, 3:28 pm 3:28 pm
Thieves preying on fellow Wall Street protesters…
I’m on their side…Obama
Posted by: thelma lou | October 19, 2011, 3:29 pm 3:29 pm
Let us not forget the same promises given for Stimulus 1 . Same sort of drama and what fraud that was fraught with!
Posted by: Dianne93101 | October 19, 2011, 3:40 pm 3:40 pm
Do we expect to hear the same sob stories every year from Democrats? Last October, the Democratically controlled Congress passed another state bailout in the amount of $26.1B. This is just becoming a permanent expenditure, undermining the governor’s budget.
Posted by: djaymick | October 19, 2011, 8:10 pm 8:10 pm
I can’t believe how many people commenting here just don’t get it. States are strapped for cash, because of unemployment. Less people working means less state income tax, less sales tax, less income for that state. They have to cut police, firemen and teachers to balance their budgets. So at a time when there is more crime because there are more desperate people, there is a longer wait time for police to arrive because there are less police, which can prove bad for victims of crime. And there are less firemen at the scene of a fire, more kids in each classroom, etc.
I’m all for balancing budgets, but not by cutting police or firemen, that is an essential service for a community.
The jobs bill should have been passed, for many reasons, helping states hire back these essential folks is just one of them.
Posted by: Librarian53 | October 19, 2011, 9:07 pm 9:07 pm
So, basically we’re supposed to just hand some $35 billion in tax dollars to the unions so they can turn around and give it back to the Dems. Pardon me if I tell this idiotic VP to go to h*ll.
POSTED BY: JAKETAYLOR | OCTOBER 19, 2011, 3:06 PM 3:06 PM
Oh yes, all teachers, firefighters and police turn their salaries over to the union. No need to support their families, pay mortages, nor do the job they were hired for. The just give it to the union. How dumb can the right get? Apparenlty endessly dumb.
Posted by: Brany | October 19, 2011, 11:51 pm 11:51 pm
The Police are not what the public objects to. Hopefully,our Vice President knows this. Here is the spending most find repulsive,even if it’s under-reported.
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The Solar thing just got a little more interesting…….REALLY!
The Tonopah Solar company in Harry Reid’s Nevada is getting a $737 million loan from Obama’s DOE.
The project will produce a 110 megawatt power system and employ 45 permanent workers.
That’s costing us just $16 million per job.
One of the investment partners in this endeavor is Pacific Corporate Group (PCG).
The PCG executive director is Ron Pelosi who is the brother to Nancy’s husband.
Just move along folks…..nuthin goin on here.
Posted by: pauldia | October 20, 2011, 6:45 am 6:45 am
If there is such a direct connection to the number of police and rapes and murders, how can the Obama administration propose we spend money on anything *but* police officers?
Posted by: MayBee | October 20, 2011, 8:56 am 8:56 am
Joe looks likes a two hundred pound man Himself. If you go to Human events .com
you can see Joe Finger pointing and having to be separated by his staff from a reporter asking a question about the jobs bill. Why the press does not cover this is frightening. Someone acting like a bully who is the Vice President of the United States and not a peep.
Posted by: deadwrestler | October 20, 2011, 9:10 am 9:10 am
Jake Tapper and Mary Bruce-
Did either of you check our Vice President’s statistics?
Posted by: MayBee | October 20, 2011, 11:13 am 11:13 am
“How dumb can the right get? Apparenlty endessly dumb.”
Posted by: Brany | October 19, 2011, 11:51 pm 11:51 pm
You misspelled “apparently” and “endlessly.” Seems you misspelled your name too.
Posted by: Mary | October 20, 2011, 1:42 pm 1:42 pm
Zaggs, Jake, Thelma Lou, Wheresmybrain and other RW possers here. Bite Me. All you got is your hatred and desire to bring our great country to its knees for political gain. Maybe you could just put yourselves down and safe us all the whining? Poor little you and I do mean little. SNEWS comes the closest to reality, and even then has to take us back to the 19th century. I like my guns, but would rather have the cops help protect the area I live, than me take up my hunting time. You all just want us third world. What are you just a bunch of pantie wetters? Figured I may as well jump in on the name callin and bad mouthin. I’m not a fan of what’s been happening, but you all are just un american. Go out and volunteer for something like Romney’s campaign, it’ll make you feel better.
Posted by: POLL58 | October 20, 2011, 1:49 pm 1:49 pm
Feds should not raise taxes to pay for local jobs. If the localities need those jobs, they need to raise the funds to pay for them.
Posted by: They all stink | October 20, 2011, 6:03 pm 6:03 pm
Mr. Vice President you are a IDIOT
Posted by: Robert Roten | October 21, 2011, 10:43 am 10:43 am
Since when do police prevent crime? They are there when the crime has been comitted. The only crimes they prevent are the crooks who they caught and are in prison.
Posted by: Andrew | October 25, 2011, 5:27 pm 5:27 pm
Andrew…you are a dope. In one sentence you ask since when do police prevent crime…and in tge next sentence you say the only crimes they prevent are the crooks they caught and who are in prison?! Do you have multiple personalities? So i guess by catching crooks they are not preventing further crimes? Again…idiotic my friend.
Posted by: CJ | February 3, 2012, 9:04 am 9:04 am