White House: McConnell’s Move To Force Vote On Jobs Bill A ‘Political Stunt’

Go figure. Repubs stymied the bill to raise the debt ceiliing, and some Democrats complained that America was being held hostage – despite Dems having control of the House and 59 in the Senate from Nov. 2010 to January 2011 to pass a bill that raised the debt ceiling.

Now Reid can put Obama’s jobs bill up front right now for a vote, yet won’t. The Senate GOP has indicated that they want it put up for a vote.

Is Reid holding America hostage on this jobs bill? We need this jobs bill.

Pass it now, Reid. You have enough Dems to pass it, so pass it.

When McConnell wants to bring the bill for a vote, it is politics, but the annointed one is traveling the country calling for a vote on the bill and that’s not political? lol

Why is the White House relying on Republicans to introduce the bill? If Reid were to do it, they wouldn’t have to worry about it not being done just the way they want it.This is the Goldilocks Administration where, no matter what the Republicans do, it’s either too cold or too hot.

oBama whines… “don’t make me call my bluff”… McConnell does and now oBama whines that he is being picked on by the bully Republican and his “political stunt”.

That was the headline of the day, whether deliberate or not.

That is right WH. The GOP is the cause of all of the problems and why the bill is failing. But why did Reid block the vote? Perhaps he didn’t have the votes? Pretty funny.

“We want it to be debated and for members of Congress, of the Senate and then hopefully the House, to vote on it and for those who vote against it to explain why.”

Yes Harry. You prove that every day.

And forcing move on health bill wasn’t? Come on who are you kidding Obama. You’re all “oh poor me, the victim of racism” to get your way – and when that doesn’t work it’s “oh poor me, it was Bush’s fault” – and when that doesn’t work it’s “oh poor me the victim of a political stunt, poor me who has never ever ever in a gazillion years ever even thought of dreaming of a political stunt, poor me, I am so pure an American and pristine a politician that I never even knew what a political stunt was until . . . until that dark day in America where somebody forced my sacred hand into a GOP’s hand . . . then and only then was my innocence lost, poor me.”

- Barack Puritan Hussein Obama

Jobs Bill? This is another “stimulus pakage” for Obama cronies.
Why not tie it to the China Currency Bill? Because it points out the stimulus money would come from China. It’s not a stunt if it’s the truth.

The “jobs” bill itself is a stunt – crafted by Obama specifically to be repulsive to Republicans so he can score points in an election cycle. Apparently even Reid knows the bill is another 400+ billion of waste. Raising taxes for years to pay for short-term jobs does absolutely nothing to spur long term growth. If Obama is the smartest guy ever to be President, he must know this, and has decided to screw over the country anyway in order to help his re-election. Or maybe he is not so smart and really believes his own propaganda. Either way the country cannot afford another term for him.

Kimberly, explain to the rest of us why its a stunt, Pres.Obama goes around telling americans he wants a vote …. What do you want, a vote or not a vote??????

Posted by: Lizzie | October 4, 2011, 11:37 pm 11:37 p

Lizzie, I referenced an article that would explain it to you, I didn’t scream, and I do want a vote– on the bill, not a cloture vote that the GOP intends to filibuster. I want the GOP to allow an actual vote, which they had no intention of doing. Get informed and learn politics if you wish to discuss politics.

” It was like the “votes” we’ve seen on judicial nominees for the past decade — opportunities for the Senate to prove that it couldn’t muster a supermajority to get an up-or-down approval vote.” — Weigel in the article you didn’t bother to read.

Following the maneuver, Cantor, who yesterday said the jobs bill was DOA, blasted out his pre-prepared statement blaming Reid, a talking point you’re repeating. Political stunt. Cantor is a hypocritical tool. As a TNR tweet put it, Cantor complains about “dysfunction” like a drunken uncle complains about all the booze that’s gone at Christmas.

No wonder congressional Republicans are so very unpopular. The majority of Americans aren’t conservative and view the GOP’s tea party base negatively.

The GOP– John Boehner very specifically and repeatedly– promised to listen to America and focus on jobs. And yet they won’t. They have a serious problem. Read former Republican Bruce Bartlett’s post at Economix called Misrepresentations, Regulations and Jobs.

A majority of Americans support the jobs bill and its provisions. A recent ABC poll found that now the president, despite his status as an underdog given the economy, holds a 49 to 34 percent advantage over congressional Republicans when it comes to the public’s trust on creating jobs.

Stunts don’t earn trust.

If the annointed one is gonna fly around the country to run Republicans down, maybe he should rent his own plane.

Michelle needs to go to Target and buy her husband a clue! Maybe get Biden one also.

KIMBERLY: “The majority of Americans aren’t conservative . . .”

Last year’s elections, this years special elections, and the last few years of Gallup polls that look at ‘US Political Ideology’ beg to differ. According to those Gallup polls of the last few years, conservatives represent the majority of Americans at about 40%, with moderates following by about 5 percentage points less. Liberals, on the other hand, have steadily represented the 20% minority for the past 20 years.

Most Americans are indeed conservative.

KIMBERLY: “The GOP– John Boehner very specifically and repeatedly– promised to listen to America and focus on jobs. And yet they won’t.”

Just because Republicans refuse to waste the people’s money when they need it most, doesn’t mean they aren’t focusing on jobs. Burdening the means of production only serves to slow economic growth. Thus, our slow recovery . . .

KIMBERLY: “Stunts don’t earn trust.”

And, neither does the liberal spin and outright lies regularly spewed by people such as yourself.

Journalist are supposed to be neutral but we can see they have favoritism just by reading their articles.

ANONYMOUS, thanks for the tedious programmed lecture. You’ve been bought, remade into something less valuable and sold at a discount rate. Just another product on the assembly line. I can push a button and hear the same cliches coming out of the plastic mouths of a million other corporate-made zombies just like you. Why’d you allow yourself to become so cheap?

rhetorical question. I buy authentic, organic and high quality goods from independent small businesses. We won’t be engaging in trade.

I’m not interested in profits over people, self interest over justice or oppression over equal rights. Corporations seek no consent to extract wealth from the people and the Earth and ought not be allowed to run our governments. “They have taken our houses through an illegal foreclosure process, despite not having the original mortgage. They have taken bailouts from taxpayers with impunity, and continue to give Executives exorbitant bonuses. They have poisoned the food supply through negligence, and undermined the farming system through monopolization. They have continuously sought to strip employees of the right to negotiate for better pay and safer working conditions. They have consistently outsourced labor and used that outsourcing as leverage to cut workers’ healthcare and pay. They have influenced the courts to achieve the same rights as people, with none of the culpability or responsibility. They have spent millions of dollars on legal teams that look for ways to get them out of contracts in regards to health insurance. They have sold our privacy as a commodity. They have deliberately declined to recall faulty products endangering lives in pursuit of profit. They determine economic policy, despite the catastrophic failures their policies have produced and continue to produce. They have donated large sums of money to politicians, who are responsible for regulating them. They continue to block alternate forms of energy to keep us dependent on oil. They continue to block generic forms of medicine that could save people’s lives or provide relief in order to protect investments that have already turned a substantial profit. They have purposely covered up oil spills, accidents, faulty bookkeeping, and inactive ingredients in pursuit of profit.They purposefully keep people misinformed and fearful through their control of the media. —abridged and quoted from a statement of the the New York City General Assembly occupying Wall Street in Liberty Square

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“Corporations are people, too.” Protests are “dangerous”– multimillionaire GOP presidential candidate and frontrunner whose tax rate is 14%.

99 percent, this JOBS BILL will do nothing for you unless your in a union or on Unemployment. Taxing people and businesses more is not going to encourage job growth. Also Temporary tax credits do not cover full time employees hiring cost.
And being able to sue a potential employer if you feel discriminated against during an interview. Well that one just means even more selective hiring practices. Yes, that all in this bill, have fun protesting, this lost generation will be ending soon. Yes Change is coming and with that some hope.

Posted by: Anonymous | October 5, 2011, 10:02 am 10:02 am

In what world is 40% a majority?

Only in a world where 79% equals 100%.

Simple math: 100% minus 40% equals 60% of Americans who are not conservative, a majority.

thanks for showing us your faulty math skills.

A majority of Americans are not conservative, and the GOP, its tea party and congressional members are very unpopular. Indeed, a new ABC poll shows that 49 percent of Americans trust Obama more on the economy and jobs, while 34 percent go for the congressional GOP.

“the only person keeping you down is you.” –anonymous

I’m reminded of Cain’s fail today in his interview with WSJ:

“Cain: I don’t have facts to back this up, but I happen to believe that these demonstrations are planned and orchestrated to distract from the failed policies of the Obama administration. Don’t blame Wall Street. Don’t blame the big banks. If you don’t have a job, and you’re not rich, blame yourself!

WSJ: You don’t think the banks have anything to do with the crisis that we we went into in 2008?

Cain: They did have something to do with the crisis that we went into in 2008, but we’re not in 2008, we’re in 2011! Okay? Yes they had a big part to do with it…”

From the opening line, I thought of you… “I don’t have the facts to back this up but…” let me yammer anyway and call mainstream America out. In a few sentences, I’ll contradict myself.

lol!!

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“That you view the average American this way identifies the source of your failure well.” — anonymous

– As one of the 99% the other commenter is the average American, obviously, whereas you are not part of the mainstream or majority, though you don’t seem to understand the math. (Side effect of being dipped in right wing ideology way too long.)

It’s really no wonder the GOP, its tea party and its congressional members are so very unpopular.

KIMBERLY: “In what world is 40% a majority?”

In a world where there is a poll that measures political ideology based on conservative, independent, and liberal. Out of the 3 ideologies, conservatism tops them all, representing most Americans. It really isn’t that hard to understand.

KIMBERLY: “Simple math: 100% minus 40% equals 60% of Americans who are not conservative, a majority.”

Except, it wasn’t a poll based on just liberals and conservatives, as it included independents also. Here it is again for the hard of reading:

ANONYMOUS: “According to those Gallup polls of the last few years, conservatives represent the majority of Americans at about 40%, with moderates following by about 5 percentage points less. Liberals, on the other hand, have steadily represented the 20% minority for the past 20 years.”

Conservatives – 40%
Independents – 35%
Liberals – 20%

KIMBERLY: “thanks for showing us your faulty math skills.”

Your failure to comprehend simple English and math doesn’t equate any fault on my part. That you could so easily botch the interpretation of something so simple highlights well your failure to understand anything more complex, like our economy.

Most Americans are indeed conservative.

Posted by: deadwrestler | October 5, 2011, 11:09 am 11:09 am

From your comments it’s apparent you don’t even know what’s in the American Jobs Act. If you do, outline it for us – it’s divided into different types of actions with dollar figures attached. Show us your great knowledge.

Vote On Jobs Bill A ‘Political Stunt’
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Yes, yes, yes. Our Greatest Smartest Clueless Leader was making a political stunt speech on not voting on his jobs bill.

Why 0bama wants to have another stimulus bill for next year, and next year only?
Because the current stimulus-paid jobs are ending, which would pile up a huge number of unemployed. He wants to keep them paid and not having a 12% unemployment rate before the election, even he spends more than $200K per job of your money.

The majority of Americans are not conservative. Most Americans are NOT conservative.

Not conservative: 60% of Americans. More than 50%.

KIMBERLY: “To be a majority, it has to be more than 50%. Period. Look up majority.”

Not when the poll is between 3 ideologies. A majority doesn’t require only 2 factors. For something to be a majority, it just requires greater numbers, which Conservatives clearly have. Get over it.

Conservatives – 40%
Independents – 35%
Liberals – 20%

No wonder the radicalized right is so very unpopular.

Posted by: Kimberly | October 5, 2011, 7:24 pm 7:24 pm

Let’s see how popular the radicalized left is when they trigger a civil war.

Let’s see how popular the radicalized left is when they trigger a civil war.

Posted by: tanya s | October 5, 2011, 7:29 pm 7:29 pm

That’s more of a neoconfederate thing, yeah? Ask neoconfederate, Rick Perry.

KIMBERLY: “You can wish it away, but the fact remains that 35% plus 20% identified as not conservative, but rather “independent” or liberal. That makes the majority not conservative.”

I don’t wish it away, as conservatives have a majority at 40% versus 35% independent and 20% liberal. Even if you split independents in half, which the polls never do, conservatives would still have a majority.

Conservatives – 40%
Independents – 35%
Liberals – 20%

Tanya, when did property destruction alone become synonymous with civil war and what is your source?

Civil war is more of a neoconfederate thing.. ask neoconfederate, Rick Perry.

I liked this sign at the protest today: “Dear NYPD — join us. You are also the 99%.”

KIMBERLY: “You’re looking for the word plurality.”

No, it isn’t. A majority doesn’t require only 2 factors. For something to be a majority, it just requires greater numbers, which Conservatives clearly have. Get over it.

Conservatives – 40%
Independents – 35%
Liberals – 20%

Anonymous, you are incorrect– a greater number of Americans identify as not conservative, something other than conservative than conservative. That means a majority of Americans are not conservative. Stubbornness doesn’t change that and your insistence lowers your credibility. I’ll put it another way

Sixty percent of Americans — which Anonymous doesn’t consider a majority, but I do– are not conservative, according to Anonymous’s own numbers.

Even more aren’t social conservatives!

There are more registered dems than there are self-identified conservatives!

A majority of Americans view the tea party negatively. A vast majority views congressional Republicans negatively.

And according to the latest ABC poll a majority of Americans, 52 percent, support Obama’s jobs bill, versus only 36 percent who oppose it. A majority of Americans, 58 percent, say it would improve the unemployment picture, versus only 39 percent who say it wouldn’t.A vast majority of Americans polled– 70 percent– say Republicans are more intested in protecting the interests of the wealthy than those of the middle class — while 52 percent say Obama protects the interests of the latter.

On top of that, a majority of Americans blame Republicans for the collapse of the economy and the credit downgrade.

The radicalized GOP is very unpopular.

KIMBERLY: “I’ll put it another way”

You have to in order for your scam to work. The poll measures political ideology based on conservative, independent, and liberal ideology. Out of the 3 ideologies, conservatism tops them all, representing most Americans. It really isn’t that hard to understand.

Conservatives – 40%
Independents – 35%
Liberals – 20%

KIMBERLY: “I liked this sign at the protest today: ‘Dear NYPD — join us. You are also the 99%.’”

I didn’t know 99% of the NYPD was liberal. Just like all things liberal, it is a scam to act as if the S o c i a l i s t hippies on Wall Street represent anywhere near 99%. In fact, liberals only represent a small 20% of the country.

There’s a good reason why communists coined the term “useful idiot” to describe liberals.

Kimberly, I’ve fully understood the difference between majority and plurality all along. You are just obstructing consrtuctive debate by claiming otherwise.

None of this erases the fact that when comparing conservatives, independents, and liberals, a majority of Americans are conservative. Rather than continue to waste all of our time with your splitting hairs, you really ought to try to get over this simple, yet important, fact.

Conservatives – 40%
Independents – 35%
Liberals – 20%

Anonymous, according your numbers

60% of Americans identify as NOT conservative

only 40% of Americans identify as conservative

60 is a greater number than 40.

“Occupy Wall Street protestors represent “the 99 percent” of Americans who are being trampled on by the financial elite.”

Posted by: Kimberly | October 5, 2011, 9:51 pm 9:51 pm

No they don’t. They’re subversive communist agitators, violent anarchists, hippies, and a bunch of spoiled, unemployed, financially stupid college students. Many have no idea what they’re protesting. Their 13 insane demands (posted online) underscore their incredible idiocy. You might want to read them over before making a bigger fool of yourself.

Conservative Republicans are very popular in my region of the state. They even use phrases like “Conservative First” on their placards and billboards during election time. We’re a middle- to middle-upper income area, with many white-collar professionals and safe neighborhoods. We’re the second most prosperous county in my state (the first is also run by Republicans). The performance of our public schools is in the top 1/2 of 1% in the state. Our county treasurer was smart enough build up reserves during the mid-2000′s, so we barely felt the recession. Republicans are doing a fine job here. Representatives from other counties (including those run by Democrats) come here all the time to learn how to improve the planning and tax policies for their own counties.

Americans who don’t identify with conservatives– 60%, a majority of Americans
Of those who aren’t conservative, those who identify as Independents – 35%
Of those who aren’t conservative, those who identify as Liberals – 20%
Conservatives – a mere 40%
Number of Americans who view the tea party negatively- 53%
those who aren’t part of the wealthiest 1%- 99% , being represented by Occupy Wall Street protestors

KIMBERLY: “60 percent of Americans aren’t conservative, according to your own figures.”

You falsely assume that if independents are removed from the poll, their numbers wouldn’t go to conservatives. Since that poll was never taken, it’s impossible to accurately make that case.

Instead, the Gallup figures show conservatives in the majority, when comparing conservatives, independents, and liberals:

Conservatives – 40%
Independents – 35%
Liberals – 20%

Whos lying Pres.Obama says the jobs bill is fully paid for, Sen. Reid says to pay for it a 5%tax has to be put into the bill.

“McConnell’s Move To Force Vote On Jobs Bill A ‘Political Stunt’” – ABC News

Well if the Bill had any support it wouldn’t be considered “a political stunt”.
Also, because of the regurgitated content of the Bill and NoBo’s disingenuous “Pass it Now” Tour, doesn’t the whole affair smell of
Political Stunt?

The White House Clown Show speeds up accelerated by mysterious “Dark Energy”.

Hmmm, Anonymous, those that are somewhat conservative were accounted for and assigned as conservative. More faulty analysis from a radical right winger. Thank God, the majority of Americans are not radical right wingers — in fact, the majority of Americans view the far right very negatively.

KIMBERLY: “Hmmm, Anonymous, those that are somewhat conservative were accounted for and assigned as conservative. More faulty analysis from a radical right winger.”

Gallup did that, not I. They did the same for liberals. I don’t see anything wrong with it, though, as they could have went independent, if they didn’t want to identify as somewhat conservative or somewhat liberal. It is your analysis that is consistently and repeatedly faulty.

None of this erases the fact that conservatives are in the majority, when comparing conservatives, independents, and liberals:

Conservatives – 40%
Independents – 35%
Liberals – 20%