Herman Cain: Accuser Sharon Bialek is Lying About Sexual Harassment
Herman Cain said today that Sharon Bialek, the first woman to publicly accuse the GOP presidential candidate of sexual harassment, is a liar and that he can’t remember ever meeting her.
“Throughout my career, I have had nothing but the utmost respect for any and all women, as well as those that have worked under my leadership,” Cain told ABC News’ Jonathan Karl in the ABC News/Yahoo Newsmakers interview. “I can categorically say I have never acted inappropriately with anyone, period. And as far as these latest charges… I reject all of those charges.”
After Cain’s interview with ABC News, one of the women who filed a complaint against Cain when he was head of the National Restaurant Association also came forward after several news media reported her name. Karen Kraushaar, a spokeswoman at the Treasury Department, stood by her claims in an interview with the New York Times, telling the newspaper that “When you are being sexually harassed in the workplace, you are extremely vulnerable.”
Cain said Bialek’s charges are “baseless” and “bogus” and are an attempt from his opponents to derail his candidacy.
“When I first saw her [Bialek]… I didn’t even recognize her,” Cain said. ”I am honestly telling you, I can’t even recall knowing her back then.”
When asked if Bialek was lying, Cain replied, “Yes, I’m saying that in as nice a way as I can.”
The former chief executive of Godfather’s Pizza, who has been accused by at least four women of sexual harassment, said that his wife is “angry” at these reports.
Bialek, a former employee at the National Restaurant Association, became the first woman on Monday to publicly charge Cain with sexual harassment. Bialek said Cain put his hand under her skirt, groped her genitals and pushed her head toward his crotch while giving her a ride back to her hotel in 1997.
Denying the allegations as “reprehensible,” Cain’s campaign is attacking what it calls Bialek’s “long and troubled [financial] history.” Bialek, a stay-at-home mother, filed for bankruptcy twice, once in 1991 and 2001.
Bialek told ABC News this morning that she was not paid to come forward, nor was she promised employment, but she did it because it was “the right thing to do.”
Other candidates interviewed today in the ABC News/Yahoo Newsmakers interviews mostly skirted the question about how Cain should respond to the allegations, except Mitt Romney, who said the latest charge by Bialek was “particularly disturbing,” and that the allegations should be addressed and “taken seriously.”
Former senator Rick Santorum called the accusation “very troubling.”
Cain agreed with Romney that the allegations are serious and disturbing, but he maintained they had no basis.
“It’s a distraction to this whole primary process. But I’m not initiating this,” he said.
When asked, in the interview’s lightning round segment who should be the fifth president to grace Mt. Rushmore, Cain said, “He hasn’t been president yet.”
Similarly, when asked who would play him in a movie, Cain replied, “He hasn’t been discovered yet.”

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Posted by: Ed Reynolds | November 8, 2011, 3:06 pm 3:06 pm
If charges or lawsuit will be filed, then why is Gloria Allred still with her and directing her on what questions she can and cannot answer?
Posted by: mike | November 8, 2011, 3:08 pm 3:08 pm
And Rick Perry with a quizzical look on his face says “Gee, I wonder who dug up the dirt on good old Herman?”
Posted by: Atilathehun101 | November 8, 2011, 3:12 pm 3:12 pm
And Rick Perry with a quizzical look on his face says “Gee I wonder who dug up the dirt on good old Herman?”
Posted by: Atilathehun101 | November 8, 2011, 3:13 pm 3:13 pm
Herman Cain today said that Sharon Bialek, the first woman to publicly accuse the GOP presidential candidate of sexual harassment, is a liar and that he can’t remember ever meeting her.
“I did not have sexual relations with that woman”.
Sound familiar?
Posted by: Searambler | November 8, 2011, 3:14 pm 3:14 pm
What I find truly funny about this entire situation is the absolute certainty people seem to have on both sides of the question. Cain supporters are convinced it’s all a witch hunt based on baseless allegations. Cain detractors are convinced that where there’s smoke there must be fire, ergo he is guilty as hell. His supporters are trying to paint this situation as a deliberate attack against ‘a conservative black man who has dared to buck the Democrat establishment simply by BEING a conservative black man’. His detractors counter with ‘this has nothing to do with his race or his politics, it speaks to his judgment, his character, and his inability to effectively enact damage control over explosive allegations that he KNEW about days before the story broke’. The OTHER thing I find hilarious is his supporters still believe – or at least purport to believe – that even after this whole fiasco, he still has better than a snowballs chance in hell of getting selected by the Republican Party as their presidential nominee. He doesn’t and he won’t. The good ol’ boys on the Right will make damn sure of that……………..
Posted by: Searambler | November 8, 2011, 3:15 pm 3:15 pm
Comon Herman…4 woman have come forward…how long are you going to deny the charges?
Posted by: RalphF | November 8, 2011, 3:19 pm 3:19 pm
Lies like this can only come from one person, Barack Obama.
Posted by: John | November 8, 2011, 3:19 pm 3:19 pm
Well, one thing’s certain. Either she is a liar or he is.
Posted by: David | November 8, 2011, 3:21 pm 3:21 pm
Difference is that with Clinton it was consensual. With Cain it was not. And didn’t he have to pay up to two of the women? I don’t like his views anyway and he will never get the nod….all I see are a bunch of clowns from the GOP…they attack this president and this is the best they can find?
Posted by: Barb | November 8, 2011, 3:23 pm 3:23 pm
if shes lying why dont u take a lie detector and say ur telling the truth.. or both of you should take one I know who would win this.. lol
Posted by: bkisses | November 8, 2011, 3:29 pm 3:29 pm
Lightning round? Do the convention delegate counts double? And how about “briefs or boxers,” ABC?
Posted by: Williamtheconquerorworm | November 8, 2011, 3:32 pm 3:32 pm
Does anyone find it funny these women wait til now to come forward. It’s not like sexual harrassment has been a dirty word on the back burner. Why now. I’m a woman and I find it very odd. I mean if they are the victims they so say, then why wouldn’t they have come forward long ago. I think something is amiss with these woman. Sorry girls. If you are offended with someone’s actions you don’t wait til they run for president. As so many do??????????????????
Posted by: sam | November 8, 2011, 3:33 pm 3:33 pm
Just remember: herman is guilty until proven innocent
Posted by: joemoe | November 8, 2011, 3:33 pm 3:33 pm
Frankly..I am finding HIM increasingly difficult to believe……
Posted by: Sakeeta | November 8, 2011, 3:34 pm 3:34 pm
This guy needs to be very careful in what he is saying. If a banquet picture photo shows up, with Bialek and himself in it, its another nail in his coffin. Also, his pointing the fingers at his opponents is only going to go on for so long before one of them slaps him back and it will be something fierce too.
Posted by: MyTakeOnThis61 | November 8, 2011, 3:34 pm 3:34 pm
John | November 8, 2011, 3:19 pm post —————- LOL! And delusional insanity like yours can only come from a Republican………..
Posted by: Searambler | November 8, 2011, 3:34 pm 3:34 pm
Really….that is the defense to these accusations? “When I first saw her [Bialek]… I didn’t even recognize her. I am honestly telling you I can’t even recall knowing her back then.”
No alibi? no other explanations other than she is a liar?…tells me a lot. If there we some stronger evidence again these accusations he would have said so. Trust me on this…he did it.
Posted by: Mike K | November 8, 2011, 3:35 pm 3:35 pm
She may have not been paid to make the statement but I bet she is getting paid plenty for her interviews. It’s not suspicious at all for someone who has had multiple serious issues with finance to be lured by the tens of thousands she can make on talk and news show appearances. If the charges are true then I would consider Cain’s actions troublesome. However, why have all these accusations come forward at a time when Cain was leading in the polls? Why not when he first entered the race or was running for the Senate in 2004? The timing is what makes this whole thing stink to high heaven. Cain has held many prominent positions since then and not one person who he has worked with him recently has backed up these claims. It’s not a matter of blind faith but believing someone is presumed innocent until proven “beyond a reasonable doubt” that they are guilty. No lawsuit has been filed, no charges made, and therefore no crime committed. You have to be tried to be found guilty in this country. I will concede that in all likeliness if this was a Democrat many conservatives would be acting the same way as liberals. It is just further evidence of how polarized we have become as a nation.
Posted by: MnNice | November 8, 2011, 3:35 pm 3:35 pm
Well, one thing’s certain. Either they are all liars or he is.
Posted by: tray of dirty dishes | November 8, 2011, 3:35 pm 3:35 pm
Okay, OJ…Everyone’s a liar except you! You’ve been busted out, dude. Let it go. Anybody who is stupid enough to continue supporting this lowlife deserves to go down with him.
Posted by: glofish54 | November 8, 2011, 3:37 pm 3:37 pm
I doubt all 4 woman are fabricating these accusations. It shows a pattern of a married Cain flirting with woman who are not his wife. And what I gather is that the tea wingers only gripe about these accusations…other than crying media bias. is that well Bill Clinton did this and the press did that….ect..
So under all that, are the tea wingers approving of Cain’s behavior then?
Lol, I guess it doesnt matter, Cain is unelectable in a general election whether he is a pervy groper or not.
Good bye pizza man =P
Posted by: TheDumbRepublican | November 8, 2011, 3:39 pm 3:39 pm
OK, someone’s lying.
My guess is Cain is lying … which means he’ll probably lie in office as well.
Sorry, Herman. Character matters.
Posted by: FriendlyFire2 | November 8, 2011, 3:41 pm 3:41 pm
Well,if he doesnt win,he can always get a job as head of the TSA =D
Posted by: Lou | November 8, 2011, 3:43 pm 3:43 pm
“I did not have sexual relations with that woman”.
Sound familiar?
Hmmm, yep, and yet his actions were and still are justified as “consensual” even though the 21 year old GIRL’s life was ruined and he just galavants around like Prince Charming. Dems still think he “hangs the moon”….what’s your point?
Posted by: More dirt | November 8, 2011, 3:48 pm 3:48 pm
Having worked in the environment of a large defense company for many years, I can tell you that almost EVERY man at some point or another makes inappropriate remarks or advances toward woman. Whether this particular worman has financial problems or not has absolutely nothing to do with this issue. Herman Cain is an idiot if he thinks that these women will not tell their story at some point. Better now, before he POSSIBLY becomes President. Impeachment is so ugly. As for the person that asked why these woman came out now with these accusations…if you listen to the news, they were not allowed to tell their story prior to this because of the settlement they received. If Mr. Cain was innocent, such a rich and powerful man should have fought these charges when they were brought. People that think this didn’t happen are completely naive about the business world. Men have always harrassed women, and yes, it also happens the other way around, since the beginning of time. Some of us never stood up and fought for themselves, so I admire the courage of any woman willing to put herself in the spotlight and be ripped apart because she comes out with her story.
Posted by: Gloria | November 8, 2011, 3:50 pm 3:50 pm
If, as is being reported elsewhere, Ms. Bialek is a politcal conservative and has convictions similar to that of Mr. Cain, why, then, is she bending over backward to hurt his chances? A resonable response might be that it is a right wing conservative group, not a liberal group, which has urged her to come forward with her story, true or not. That makes one wonder which of the other GOP candidates might know more about this than they are telling.
Posted by: munster42 | November 8, 2011, 3:51 pm 3:51 pm
Clinton paid Paula $850,000 dollars. Only money bandied to-date for Cain sounds like severance package money. $35,000 or so.
Posted by: Kathy | November 8, 2011, 3:51 pm 3:51 pm
First the Cain team said all of these accusations were baseless because these were anonymous sources making the allegations. Then a real person comes forward, and right on cue the Cain team attacks the accuser (e.g. “financial problems”). This is a pretty telling proof point on why these accusers want to remain anonymous, and why some did not report the incidents in the first place. Attacking the victim is the modus operendi for these pigs.
Posted by: DuhLosing | November 8, 2011, 3:51 pm 3:51 pm
BS. Ask any woman in business for awhile, and I guarantee you most of them have been sexually harassed. We didn’t use to speak up because we would loose our jobs as the decision makers were mostly men (who were probably hitting on (read sexual harassment) women themselves. When it crossed the line into assault, some women notified their bosses–usually men. But another thing I will GUARANTEE…for every woman who is lying (and I don’t think this one is) there are 1,000 women who were harassed and didn’t tell–all those men got away with it.
Posted by: SF Reader | November 8, 2011, 3:53 pm 3:53 pm
Does anyone find it funny these women wait til now to come forward. It’s not like sexual harassment has been a dirty word on the back burner. Why now. I’m a woman and I find it very odd. Posted by: sam | November 8, 2011, 3:33 pm.
Just tuning in, Sam? Someone leaked a story to Politico a couple weeks ago. They leaked the FACT that back in 1999 – actually September of 1999, or 9/99, which is deliciously ironic on so many levels – two women accused Cain of sexual harassment, and were paid off in exchange for signing a non-disclosure statement. Those are objective and well known facts – all of that really happened and no one disputes that it happened anymore. IF that story had not been leaked to Politico then THIS woman would still be an anonymous nobody. Because there is no reason to think she would have come forward all on her own after all this time. If someone TRULY wanted to sabotage Cain as a candidate for the Republican presidential nomination, then leaking the story BEFORE the primaries makes perfect sense. Although they should have waited until December, closer to the first primary, to maximize the damage to Cain. Now, if someone on the Left wanted to sabotage Republican candidate Cain in order to help Obama (assuming Cain actually won the Republican primary and became their official candidate), then it would make sense to WAIT on leaking this story until a month or two before the actual election next November. See the difference? Story leaked BEFORE the primaries means probably leaked by a Republican against Cain. Story leaked AFTER the primaries and IF Cain won the nomination means probably leaked by a Democrat…………………
Posted by: Searambler | November 8, 2011, 3:53 pm 3:53 pm
We the people do not want another womanizer in the Whitehouse regardless of what political party they are from. Wake up and smell the coffee. This is not about party affiliation. There were plenty of warning signs about Clinton before he was elected and it was ignored and look what happened. Get your heads out of the sand .
Posted by: greenthumbx | November 8, 2011, 3:55 pm 3:55 pm
Yeah, it’s been my experience when a group says one thing and a lone person says another it’s the lone person that is telling the truth. Well, maybe not.
Posted by: Secondlook | November 8, 2011, 3:55 pm 3:55 pm
Right. And Sandusky didn’t molest those boys either.
Posted by: JCR in SF | November 8, 2011, 3:55 pm 3:55 pm
SAM wrote: “Does anyone find it funny these women wait til now to come forward. It’s not like sexual harrassment has been a dirty word on the back burner. ” The NRA did not find it funny when the two accusers made these accusations in 1998/99 and then settled their claims for $35K and $45K respectively. Isn’t it funny how being a partisan makes one blind to facts? I’m sure if it was your daughter who was in the back of the limo with Cain and he allegedly reached up her skirt and allegedly forced her head into his crotch, you’d be saying “Isn’t it funny, daughter of mine, that a republican harrassed you?”
Posted by: AppeaseThis | November 8, 2011, 3:56 pm 3:56 pm
This woman is a known con artist in the Chicago area. She sued her former employer WGN for harassment as well. She is just out for money, period. The problem with a lie detector is..she is pathologically. So she would probably pass it. She wasn’t an employee either…she had already been fired from the affiliated company!!! Go out to your car with a friend and try to create the scenario she described happened. Try to reach up a skirt of the passenger who’s legs should be closed and grab genitals…or maybe her legs were open and inviting???? Then reach and grab for the head and pull it down did she it the center console with her head??..it just doesn’t make sense. And C’mon…14 years later she wants to speak out…this is her 15 minutes of fame, period!!
Posted by: Ang | November 8, 2011, 3:56 pm 3:56 pm
Who cares. This is a non issue. He is my candidate. Obama’s starting to sweat now, isn’t he?
Posted by: einii | November 8, 2011, 3:57 pm 3:57 pm
I do not like Cain, but I feel this is a witch hunt. First of all, she had to read her horrifying experience, secondly, it’s obvious she had a glam squad. Thirdly, I feel her explanation was poorly wriitten. She should have received some eye or motion signals from him prior to the event which would have made her feel uncomfortable around him. Why did she start with a high power atty. why not start with a blog. how did she come in contact with this atty. what are her trailer park neighbors saying about her. I feel they are playing the race card, playing on tea party members who oppose mixed race
Posted by: GFTH | November 8, 2011, 3:58 pm 3:58 pm
The old left smear tactics at work again. It’s only good for the left to sexually harass a women didn’t you all know that? Clinton and teddy are two of the biggest offenders of this EVER but it was OK. double standard anyone? I don’t condone it but where was the lefties on these two bozos??
Posted by: Dave | November 8, 2011, 3:59 pm 3:59 pm
Easy enough to find out who is lying.
She said that he “updated” her hotel reservation.
Should not be too hard to check it out.
Posted by: el jote2 | November 8, 2011, 4:00 pm 4:00 pm
I find it troubling that two cases were settled out of court involving Cain’s alleged indiscretions. If he was as innocent as he says why were those women paid off?
Posted by: Librarian53 | November 8, 2011, 4:01 pm 4:01 pm
“I did not have sexual relations with that woman”.
Sound familiar?
Hmmm, yep, and yet his actions were and still are justified as “consensual” even though the 21 year old GIRL’s life was ruined and he just galavants around like Prince Charming. Dems still think he “hangs the moon”…. what’s your point?
Posted by: More dirt | November 8, 2011, 3:48 pm.
LOL! My POINT is how similar Cain sounds to the way Clinton spoke before the whole truth came out. We all know what THAT was. The specifics of the two cases are almost polar opposites, but both fall under the general term of “sex scandal”. And I doubt Monica’s life was ruined by her sexcapades with Clinton. As a young WOMAN she seems to have handled the whole thing quite well. In fact she’s earned a few million dollars as a result of her celebrity………..
Posted by: Searambler | November 8, 2011, 4:02 pm 4:02 pm
This all could be resolved within a two hour period. All the two parties have to do is submit to a polygraph with questions based on the allegations. I think all public servants should be required to take a polygraph (just as police officers are required to do). For those running for public office there could be questions like; have you anything in your past that may prevent you from carrying out your oath of office if elected? Have you ever taken money from a contributor and promised a benefit in return, be it a post or legislation? Have you ever made a statement about an opponent you know to be untrue? Do you support your party’s platform? Does your constituents opinion mean more than yours when voting on a bill that they may support and you don’t?
If every elected official took this short polygraph, we’d know who would represent us best.
Posted by: karmamaster | November 8, 2011, 4:03 pm 4:03 pm
Yeah, this guy looks REAL honest…………. why does anyone believe or support him??? To be a successful businessman in America raping, groping and generally taking liberties with other people and their money is the American way.
Posted by: marc bauder, MD | November 8, 2011, 4:04 pm 4:04 pm
I think Cain is lying. No way for four women to come out of the wood work in just this short period of time.We do not need another person that is running for president to have had affairs with other women or what ever he was doing. It is sicking to even listen to all of this. Cain can’t make up his mine in what he’s saying.He thinks he’s funny, but I don’t . I think he should tell the truth. One day he is saying something, then another day he changes his story. We do not need a National 9% sales tax. Also Rick Perry would make a great president, That is my true statement and I sticking to it.
Posted by: Ann Cheatham | November 8, 2011, 4:04 pm 4:04 pm
What bothers me about this: Does this woman have a photographic memory? Can anyone commenting here positively say they can remember WORD FOR WORD a conversation held 14-15 years ago? Why didn’t she file charges back then? How did Gloria find out about this woman anyway? Did she put an ad in the newspaper asking for others to come forward?
Gloria Allred stated she isn’t getting a nickel for representing her. Her answer was bull. No lawyer does pro bono work unless they get something in return. I think there’s a lot more to this story and I don’t think it’s on the up and up.
I read somewhere else that this woman claimed bankruptcy twice and is having financial problems again. Don’t know how true that is, but if it is, there’s a motive. I also read that she filed the same charges on another guy and guess who her lawyer was-Axelrod. That tells me something.
…and for those on this board that give those democrats a pass, I can see how limited their memory is in regards to Clinton and the Kennedy’s.
Posted by: abby | November 8, 2011, 4:09 pm 4:09 pm
How can he claim so categorically while he does not remembers other details from same time period. 4 people complaining about same behavior does indicate a pattern. At least 2 settled, there are 2 more, god know how many more. Mr Cain did not run for Prez before, so nobody ever bothered to go into his past, or at least there was no value in doing so. He started w/ blaming Perry for this mess, now pointing fingers to Democrats, while the accuser is a Tea Party Rep. Things just don’t add up here.
Posted by: pmunda | November 8, 2011, 4:12 pm 4:12 pm
First Herman Cain didn’t rape or intimidate anyone. There was no sex…what’s the issue here? Second, anyone who has worked around women know that there are the fair share of HO’s that run around trying to get promoted or find a job by using sex. Someone will respond to this in a negative way, but YOU KNOW its true!
Posted by: 18z5wp | November 8, 2011, 4:13 pm 4:13 pm
Financially and politically motivated. Enough said.
Posted by: Robert | November 8, 2011, 4:13 pm 4:13 pm
Only money bandied to-date for Cain sounds like severance package money. $35,000 or so. Posted by: Kathy | November 8, 2011, 3:51 pm.
That $35 grand represents a years salary for the woman who got it. Which means she was a low-level employee making $35 grand a year. I defy ANYONE here to provide documentation of someone who makes $35 grand a year getting a full years severance pay when they left………….
Posted by: Searambler | November 8, 2011, 4:15 pm 4:15 pm
abby | November 8, 2011, 4:09 pm post ———- LOL! In other words you don’t believe the woman, you don’t believe the lawyer, but you believe Herman. Hilarious………..
Posted by: Searambler | November 8, 2011, 4:17 pm 4:17 pm
At least it didn’t cost $66 million to find it out. BUT, how much money would you bet, the same Politicians that voted to impeach Clinton, would NOT vote to impeach Cain?
Posted by: arryandan | November 8, 2011, 4:18 pm 4:18 pm
Here’s some facts. One of the accusers works for the Obama administration. This lady who came public has a history of false paternity claims, lawsuits and was fired from her NRA job. She was pictured with Cain just a few months ago looking quite happy, and witnesses indicate she did not appear upset at all when she talked to him. This is a smear campaign.
Posted by: Bob | November 8, 2011, 4:19 pm 4:19 pm
GFTH wrote, “The old left smear tactics at work again. It’s only good for the left to sexually harass a women didn’t you all know that? Clinton and teddy are two of the biggest offenders of this EVER but it was OK. ” Yep. Anthony Weinder and John Edwards were never force to end their congressional careers or presidential runs because of sexual missdeads… Oh… wait… there goes your whole argument. The GOP “victimhood” defense fails once again in the face of pesky facts.
Posted by: AppeaseThis | November 8, 2011, 4:20 pm 4:20 pm
ENNI
This is a non issue. He is my candidate. Obama’s starting to sweat now, isn’t he?
Why would the President be sweating?
The Republican Party is in chaos; you have the moderate republicans trying to take back their party from the confederacy of dunces’ tea party, all the republican candidates sniping at each other, and republican House that is the most “do nothing” group in history. Their only way out seems to be blame the President for everything, even their own stupidity.
It’s not working, the republicans are imploding. If they would come up with some proposals instead of the same old trickledown economics that has never worked, they might have a chance
Posted by: tmferretti | November 8, 2011, 4:20 pm 4:20 pm
Who cares. This is a non issue. He is my candidate. Obama’s starting to sweat now, isn’t he? Posted by: einii | November 8, 2011, 3:57 pm.
Speaking for myself and every Democrat I know, we would LOVE for Herman to be the Republican presidential nominee next year. And I’m sure the president feels the same way. Because a Herman Cain candidacy would guarantee an Obama LANDSLIDE in the election. And the GOP knows it. Do you REALLY believe the good ol’ boys in the Republican Party would EVER give Herman Cain the nomination? Really? Think about it for a minute. If you believe that, I have a fabulous deal on a wonderful bridge in Alaska that would be PERFECT for you……….
Posted by: Searambler | November 8, 2011, 4:21 pm 4:21 pm
Cain said the “baseless” and “bogus” charges are an attempt from his opponents to derail his candidacy. Really Cain, Is this the best you can do?
Posted by: John Stienitz | November 8, 2011, 4:22 pm 4:22 pm
I find it funny that The Daily releases the name of one of the anonymous accusers, a last name just happened to be shared by one of the Politico writers. And it’s a rare one….
Posted by: chrissie | November 8, 2011, 4:23 pm 4:23 pm
Conservatives are only outraged by sexual scandal if it’s a Liberal with his hand up someone’s skirt. Hypocracy is business as usual for them.
Posted by: Cassandra | November 8, 2011, 4:24 pm 4:24 pm
POSTED BY: ANG | NOVEMBER 8, 2011, 3:56 PM posted: “con artist” “out for money” “open legs” “Pathological” “doesn’t make sense” “years later”.
Here we have a neat little package of sludge, a perfect example why those women who were paid by the National Restaurant Association to keep quiet, and likely others, are fearful about speaking out.
Working women across America know the deal: if we report inappropriate sexual comments, pawing, or outright propositions, we can be fired, degraded, humiliated and publically dragged through mud.
It is a FACT that other women were paid by the National Restaurant Association after complaining about Cain’s harassment, and he denies (or forgets) that too. And then Cain struts on the stage, talking about his sugar daddy Koch Brothers funding. The closest this disgusting man should ever get to the White House is as a tourist.
Posted by: green.goddess | November 8, 2011, 4:26 pm 4:26 pm
Evidently a lot of people can’t get the difference between those that are players and have affairs and those that sexually harass. If the guy was caught having an affair I would care less. This one has been caught completely disrespecting women.
Posted by: Secondlook | November 8, 2011, 4:28 pm 4:28 pm
“I don’t remember” does not equal no… He did it
Posted by: AndrewS | November 8, 2011, 4:28 pm 4:28 pm
To David who said that with Clinton it was consensual: Doesn’t he remember that Clinton was accused oflying to a grand jury? In the Paula Jones alleged rape lawsuit? She reciieve over three quarters of a million dollars. Compare that to 30 or 40 thousand. And she wasn’t the only women alleging rape. So yeah… is is different. The Clinton allegations were worse.
Posted by: Get Real | November 8, 2011, 4:32 pm 4:32 pm
Here’s some facts. One of the accusers works for the Obama administration. This lady who came public has a history of false paternity claims, lawsuits and was fired from her NRA job. Posted by: Bob | November 8, 2011, 4:19 pm.
Bob, simply SAYING ‘here are some facts’ is meaningless if you don’t really post any facts. Facts need proof. Where is yours?
Posted by: Searambler | November 8, 2011, 4:36 pm 4:36 pm
Let’s see, Bialek lives in Axelrod’s building, another woman works for the Obama administration, another works in government but they haven’t said where yet. Hmmm….. anyone seeing a pattern here?
Posted by: wheresmymoney | November 8, 2011, 4:37 pm 4:37 pm
one thing that I know is that her story sound might true having power means that little head is all ways incharge and I’m above the rest of you loking at the GOP and one thing comes to mind they are all a bunch of clowns………
Posted by: phil | November 8, 2011, 4:38 pm 4:38 pm
None of us was there. Only God knows the truth. Interesting is how this never came up before. Mr. Cain don’t let the accusations derail you. Go forward even stronger! Stay with the points of your campain and lets fix our country.
Posted by: Anthony | November 8, 2011, 4:40 pm 4:40 pm
Is it just me or is his nose getting longer and longer?
Posted by: fishfarmer | November 8, 2011, 4:42 pm 4:42 pm
Paula Jones posed nude in Penthouse in 2000. Do the math.
Posted by: Secondlook | November 8, 2011, 4:44 pm 4:44 pm
Well someone is lying and it can’t be all 5 of them. I for one don’t care what he did so many years ago. He wasn’t getting my vote no matter what. In fact, I doubted he would even be around to get any votes. Just go away Cain while the getting is good.
Posted by: Retired | November 8, 2011, 4:45 pm 4:45 pm
Re: “Hmmm….. anyone seeing a pattern here?” The pattern I’m seeing is that conservative voters are SO easy to manipulate and so unable to think for themselves that they actually believe that it’s Liberals who want Cain out of the way. WE WANT CAIN on the ticket! it’s the GOP who thinks he’s pulling too much attention away from Romney.
No matter what happens, please VOTE 4 CAIN.
Posted by: Cassandra | November 8, 2011, 4:46 pm 4:46 pm
I hear today that this Sharon works for the Obama campain. And i wonder if this happened why did these ladies not SUE? There was and is no law suit against the man so appears to me that someone other than Cain is at risk now of being sued. She had to get permission from her 13 year old to come out and say he did something if he did. And she said she has a boyfriend to him? Guess that meant if she did not it would be OK???? And now we have Bill Clinton saying they need to change the number of times he can be president to Three?? Guess he misses the desk. You watch, the self proclaimed messenger who said he talks to God’ Obama will try something.
Posted by: Jim Rod | November 8, 2011, 4:51 pm 4:51 pm
(in southern accent) “Hell, at least he ain’t gay and caught in a queer scandal…”
Posted by: Trooper | November 8, 2011, 4:51 pm 4:51 pm
As a man I’m embarrassed by what I’m seeing. No wonder more women don’t come forward, if they do they’re vilified, accused of everything under the sun, and have their lives ruined. Come on guys, lets at leastact like real men instead of spoiled juvenile delinquints.
Posted by: tmferretti | November 8, 2011, 4:53 pm 4:53 pm
It is a FACT that other women were paid by the National Restaurant Association after complaining about Cain’s harassment, and he denies (or forgets) that too. And then Cain struts on the stage, talking about his sugar daddy Koch Brothers funding. The closest this disgusting man should ever get to the White House is as a tourist.
Posted by: green.goddess | November 8, 2011, 4:26 pm 4:26 pm
Obviously you have never associated with large corporations. Most will pay the accuser, even if the accusations are false. It is much cheaper than going to court.
Do you have the same venom of Obama and his mentor George Soros that you do the Koch brothers? How about Bill Ayers the terrorist buddy of Obama?
Posted by: wheresmymoney | November 8, 2011, 5:00 pm 5:00 pm
This is sad!!!
Posted by: carol durante | November 8, 2011, 5:11 pm 5:11 pm
Everyone needs to look up what Obama and Axelrod did to the other runners in the 2004 Senate race….. Chicago slime at its finest.
Posted by: wheresmymoney | November 8, 2011, 5:16 pm 5:16 pm
WHERESMYMONEY: “Obviously you have never associated with large corporations. Most will pay the accuser, even if the accusations are false. It is much cheaper than going to court.” – - – AND doesn’t it make as much if not more sense for ALL corporations to pay the accusers when the accusations are TRUE because if they don’t then the subsequent hostile work environment lawsuit they would likely lose would only cause them to end up paying even more? Consequently, your line of reasoning is a sad and pointless attempt to latch onto any possible rationalization that will allow you to excuse Cain’s immoral behavior. Do you have any reliable objective or subjective evidence upon which to base a rational reason to believe Cain and doubt ALL FOUR of the women we know about? When women complain of sexual harassment, sexual assault, or rape my default position is to give them the benefit of the doubt while I look for rational reasons to doubt their claim. In other words, my position is to trust but verify when women (or men) make these kinds of complaints. I always apply the same standard, and I would now even if these four women were saying the same thing about President Obama. Cain’s politics and race are totally irrelevant to me. I know of no rational reason to doubt ALL FOUR of the women who are basically saying the same thing – Cain is a serial sexual harasser.
Posted by: B-K KnightRider | November 8, 2011, 5:24 pm 5:24 pm
Buh-Byeeee Herman! If you’re the best the GOP has to offer the American people, the collective IQ of the party must be around 80. It’s no wonder they find it so easy to embrace the patently irrational and unfounded, superstitious is as superstitious does.
Posted by: RevHellhorn | November 8, 2011, 5:25 pm 5:25 pm
Now that Allred is involved she just lost all credibility. Allred is to this case what Jackson and Sharpton are to discrimination cases.
Posted by: Twoboysmom | November 8, 2011, 5:29 pm 5:29 pm
WHERESMYMONEY: “Everyone needs to look up what Obama and Axelrod did to the other runners in the 2004 Senate race….. Chicago slime at its finest.” – - – No, we don’t, because that has NOTHING to with Cain. That is only a pathetic attempt to create a red herring. Unless of course you have some reliable objective evidence that shows a direct connection. So, barring that, your fallacious thinking is laughably poor.
Posted by: B-K KnightRider | November 8, 2011, 5:30 pm 5:30 pm
It’s the Democrats who promote their serial sexuall harrassers like BILL CLINTON< AN|THONY WEINER< JOHN EDWARDS while the media covered up for them,
Posted by: Kala | November 8, 2011, 5:30 pm 5:30 pm
I think that ABC news, as well as the other media outlets showed a pop up window of the accuser and her slime attorney attorney Allred, at the same time as Herman Caine was speaking. It served to destract from Mr. Caines speech and you and the other outlets are just showing your bias toward him and owe him an on air apologies. Please note that I am not affiliated with any political party (Thank God) and not a supporter of Mr. Caine, simply a person who dislikes the media’s unobjective coverage. You should be ashamed.
Posted by: Rick M | November 8, 2011, 5:30 pm 5:30 pm
Lefty Smears End Here! They had better not try it again.
Posted by: Kala | November 8, 2011, 5:31 pm 5:31 pm
WHERESMYMONEY | NOVEMBER 8, 2011, 5:00 PM posted “Obviously you have never associated with large corporations. Most will pay the accuser, even if the accusations are false.”
WRONG suppositions again.
Yes, I HAVE worked for two Fortune 500 companies in the 80s. And I can tell you very clearly that these businesses do everything they can to NOT simply “pay the accuser”. Instead, the have Human Resource departments to create anti-harassment policies. These policies are understood and upheld via periodic training of the troops. This also keeps employees and managers informed of the company’s procedures for handling harassment claims AND protects the corporation from lawsuits. In my view, The National Restaurant Association either ignored these standard practices, or the harassment was egregious enough for the organization to buy silence.
Unfortunately, not all women work for companies or organizations with these policies in place. Some are subjected to harassment during job searches – they have little recourse when they are not even employees.
Posted by: green.goddess | November 8, 2011, 5:31 pm 5:31 pm
Pouty little children whining about Obama in public only underline how pathetically stupid Americans have become. The Great Dumbing Down, a generation of retreat into myth and superstition, has made them lame and useless. The sense of entitlement these parasites manifest is so very misplaced, as the rest of humanity is passing them by as we watch.
Posted by: RevHellhorn | November 8, 2011, 5:34 pm 5:34 pm
JIM ROD: “And she said she has a boyfriend to him? Guess that meant if she did not it would be OK????” – - – Yeah, right. And nobody ever says anthing a little odd or even irrational when they are surprised by a shocking, stressful, and or fear inducing situation… Nawww, that never happens.
Posted by: B-K KnightRider | November 8, 2011, 5:36 pm 5:36 pm
Let’s see: Frank Colombo school of investigation on One Sharon Bialek: One More Thing Maam…hmmmmmm
Things that make you goooo hmmmmmmmmm?? Let me get this straight maam…..
No reporting or complaint filing, nothing for over 14 + years hmmmmmmm??
No reporting or filing when Herman ran for office in the state of Georgia 2004 hmmmmmmmmm??
No reporting of complaint filing when Herman started running for 2012 President at the beginning this year for months and Polls under 20% double hmmmmmmm?? hmmmmmmm??
Lists of six specific civil lawsuits in which Bialek was a defendant, and it cites a news report saying that Bialek was sued over a paternity matter in 1999. The email also says that public records show Bialek has filed for bankruptcy twice and worked for nine employers over the last 17 years. hmmmmmmmm??
The questions should be – who is financing her legal team, have any media agreed to pay for her story, and has she been offered employment for taking these actions? hmmmmm??
On one of the many TV interviews Bialek participated in on Tuesday, it was revealed that the single mom once lived in the same building as Obama chief campaign adviser David Axelrod. Double hmmmmm?? hmmmmm?
And Bialek’s lawyer Allred, is a major contributor to Democrats. According to Federal Election Commission records dating back to 1998, Allred has given more than $10,000 to Democratic candidates and party committees, including the presidential campaigns of Senators John Kerry, Hillary Clinton, and Barack Obama. hmmmmmmmm??
Jury’s Out: CASE DISMISSED!
Herman Cain! You are a Free Man and a True American! Now Go Finish off Oblamo in the elections! And straighten our country back out and Let’s Take it Back from The Bilderberg controlled and run Entitlement class and their secret agendas of their One World Order!
Posted by: jonas713 | November 8, 2011, 5:36 pm 5:36 pm
KALA: “It’s the Democrats who promote their serial sexuall harrassers like BILL CLINTON.” – - – And yet another pathetic red herring. What Clinton did is totally irrelevant to Cain. While you are looking up red herring in a dictionary see if you can find an adult who can explain to you the difference between consensual affairs between two adults and sexual harassment.
Posted by: B-K Knightrider | November 8, 2011, 5:39 pm 5:39 pm
Bye Bye,nice knowing you Herman.
Posted by: Jim Bob jr. | November 8, 2011, 5:41 pm 5:41 pm
If this rely happen like she said then does any body think that she would be able to just say it by memory not read it like it is a well writen script.HMMMMMMMMMMMMM
Posted by: Bob B | November 8, 2011, 5:46 pm 5:46 pm
AMANDA F. | NOVEMBER 8, 2011, 5:15 PM posted: “What has Barack Obama done to deserve to be president until Jan. 20, 2017?”
No Amanda, the “fundamental question” is why avoid the conversation about what Herman Cain has done to deserve being president?
By the way, google The Roaring Twenties. More than 60% of our citizens found themselves living below poverty levels, while just 5% of the wealthiest people in America accounted for 33% of the income, and the richest 1% owned 40% of the nation’s wealth. Then check the parallels for what happened over the last decade, culminating in a financial crash on FULL YEAR before this President stepped into the White House.
Posted by: green.goddess | November 8, 2011, 5:47 pm 5:47 pm
Jonas713, you could definitely come in last at a competition to reason one’s way out of Glad Bag. Thanks for reminding us that teaching critical thinking was deemed bad 30 years ago by a collection of half-wit goobers and hasn’t been seen since.
You people are *so* screwed, it’s funny!
Posted by: RevHellhorn | November 8, 2011, 5:47 pm 5:47 pm
Time to warm up Cain’s legal team to start lobbing slander suits. People are making accusations without evidence and without consequence, and that has to end.
Posted by: J Story | November 8, 2011, 5:49 pm 5:49 pm
If Obama can get elected after all the crap he did then Cain should not have a problem.
Posted by: Seriously | November 8, 2011, 5:49 pm 5:49 pm
Eddie Griffin said it best in the movie Undercover Brother that a white women is a black
mans kryptonite. And Herman fell for it!!!
Posted by: myopinionpal | November 8, 2011, 5:50 pm 5:50 pm
JONAS713: “Jury’s Out: CASE DISMISSED! Herman Cain! You are a Free Man and a True American! ” – - – How convenient and dishonest of you to ignore the first three accusers. How long ago the incidents happened is TOTALLY IRRELEVANT to their validity. Either Cain sexually harassed one or more of these women or he did not. It does not matter if he did ten minutes ago, ten days ago, or ten years ago. The ONLY reason it is coming out now is because Politico heard about the two formal sexual harassment complaints against Cain, verified what they heard, and then reported it. The ONLY reason the third woman spoke up was because Cain went on his campaign of character assassination against the two women who filed the formal complaints. Note he did that INSTEAD of asking the Restaurant Association to release redacted copies of the formal complaints, the association’s investigation and results, and the settlement agreements. HE chose to keep it a he said she said situation instead of asking for a release of the only physical evidence and paperwork of what happened and which might corroborate his account of what happened. The 3rd woman spoke up to say the first two women are not lying because Cain did it to me also. In other words, she only rebutted Cain’s statements. As far as we KNOW right now, ditto for woman number four. I don’t know of any rational reason to believe Cain or to doubt the women. And so far NOBODY defending Cain has presented a rational reason to blindly believe him.
Posted by: BKKnightRider | November 8, 2011, 5:53 pm 5:53 pm
Funny how these women are coming out NOW when he’s running for the highest office possible.. And really its kind of common sense people!! Why on Earth would someone run for President knowing that they have that many skeletons in their closet that could bite them in the ass – in plain english.. This is a case of the media eating up any possible negativity toward a possible republican candidate for President. And whether its an opposing party or fellow same-party candidate, somebody is behind this that doesn’t want Herman Cain to win. People need to wake up and not be brainwashed by the media.. Not everything on TV is true. And it’s comical that this matter is being brought up for a potential presidential candidate, however when President obama was running, nobody cared or brought mtters up about where he was born.. Isn’t that suspicious? And even more puzzling is that americans voted for him.. People are saying Cain should take a Lie Detectors test.. I think the woman accusing him should! This is a political publicity stunt that has been happening for years, come on America, smarten up..
Posted by: supporter | November 8, 2011, 5:57 pm 5:57 pm
KALA: “It’s the Democrats who promote their serial sexuall harrassers like BILL CLINTON.” – – – And yet another pathetic red herring. What Clinton did is totally irrelevant to Cain. While you are looking up red herring in a dictionary see if you can find an adult who can explain to you the difference between consensual affairs between two adults and sexual harassment.
Posted by: B-K Knightrider
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I wouldn’t call the accusations of Kathleen Willey, Paula Jones, or Juanita Broderick to be examples of “consensual sex”. And talk about payoffs, these women were paid far more than the alleged victims of Cain. They even got upper level jobs when they agreed to lie for Clinton.
Posted by: ivan | November 8, 2011, 6:01 pm 6:01 pm
J STORY: “Time to warm up Cain’s legal team to start lobbing slander suits. People are making accusations without evidence and without consequence, and that has to end.” – - – You do realize of course that the ONLY evidence is eyewitness accounts/testimony of the parties involved and any outcry witnesses the women might have told. Except of course for the paperwork the Restaurant Association is sitting on which contains the two original formal complaints, the association’s investigations, the results/findings of those investigations, and the settlement agreements. If Cain is so innocent then why isn’t Cain waving around a release form while screaming for HIS former association to release a redacted copy of all of the paperwork. If anything in that paperwork supports his version of events then why is not doing everything possible to get the paperwork out as quickly as possible? Hmm, what is in that paperwork that Cain is trying to hide? The bottom line is one either believes the women or they don’t. I don’t know of any rational reason to doubt the women.
Posted by: B-K KnightRider | November 8, 2011, 6:02 pm 6:02 pm
“Funny how these women are coming out NOW when he’s running for the highest office possible..” Pay attention dude. The first two did not come out voluntarily. And the the more others who have been through this see the others trashed, the more likely they will get angry and come out too.
Posted by: Loki | November 8, 2011, 6:05 pm 6:05 pm
If it were the truth, then wouldn’t she have had the dignity to report it when he were a lowly CEO of one of America’s biggest chain restaurants? Or at least when he first announced his candidacy. The timing seems suspicious. And if it did happen, it shouldn’t be a big deal considering that Bill Clinton retained relative popularity as President even after the public learned how taxpayer money was being spent on interns in the oval office.
Posted by: JJ | November 8, 2011, 6:05 pm 6:05 pm
Here’s what I want to know Mr Cain. You had two sexual harassment allegations settled, and your wife only knew about it over a decade later? Doesn’t speak much for the communication in your marriage.
Posted by: Tommy Crown | November 8, 2011, 6:08 pm 6:08 pm
SUPPORTER: “Funny how these women are coming out NOW when he’s running for the highest office possible.. And really its kind of common sense people!! Why on Earth would someone run for President knowing that they have that many skeletons in their closet that could bite them in the ass – in plain english..” – - – Funny how you conveniently forget that TWO women REPORTED what happened when it happened by filing formal complaints. Once those formal sexual harassment complaints were settled and the non-disclosure agreements were in place they were FORBIDDEN from bringing it up. What part of FORBIDDEN by a non-disclosure agreement do you not understand, or have forgotten in the last eight days? The only reason woman #3 spoke up was to defend the first two women and rebut what Cain was saying. Ditto for #4. Why would anyone run with skeletons in his closet? You want it in plain English? ARROGANCE!!!! He is arrogant enough to think he can get away with it. He is arrogant enough to think he can get away with it because he thinks there enough rabidly partisan conservatives who are so incapable of rational thought they will not believe anything negative anyone says about him. He is arrogant enough to think that there are enough people who are afraid of being labeled a racist for doubting him that even if they don’t believe him they will never admit it publicly. So, in plain English, he was arrogant enough to think he could get away with serial sexual harassment, and he is now arrogant enough to think that conservatives blindly give him the kind of free pass they would NEVER give a Democrat under identical circumstances. BTW, common sense is only code for irrationally and reactively conforming with what others think. “Common sense” rarely stands up to any rational critical analysis, because there is no such thing as “common sense.” If it really was common, everyone would already think it and believe it. And even then it is not necessarily true.
Posted by: B-K KnightRider | November 8, 2011, 6:15 pm 6:15 pm
There are a few people who say he is guilty because the women were paid. Apparently, these people don’t understand reality. It’s much easier to pay someone off than continue a court fight, even if you are winning. I was involved with a case where the judge was obviously going to give a not guilty but the defendant’s company gave the woman $500 as a settlement. Not only did it end this stupid lawsuit, it prevented her from taking it further up when she lost. Sometimes you have to give a little to stop stupid people. BTW, this woman I’m talking about has 12 other suits filed against other people and they will probably give her money just to get her out of their hair.
Posted by: Skye | November 8, 2011, 6:21 pm 6:21 pm
Really soft ball questions for Ol’ Sweet Willie Cain. He is so pathetic that he can’t answer the real questions and the interviewer was probably beaten into submission by Cain’s handlers. Why, if he had never done what was said of him did his people make payments to the previous women? What a farce.
Posted by: paul J. | November 8, 2011, 6:22 pm 6:22 pm
IVAN: “I wouldn’t call the accusations of Kathleen Willey, Paula Jones, or Juanita Broderick to be examples of “consensual sex”. And talk about payoffs, these women were paid far more than the alleged victims of Cain. They even got upper level jobs when they agreed to lie for Clinton.” – - – As I remember it they were paid more than $300K apiece to come forward to accuse Clinton. And the only one I remember seeing in an interview who accused Clinton of rape did not describe a rape. She said she never told him no. She said she never told him to stop. She said she never physically tried to stop him. She said she was thinking no and stop. Yes, she did say she did not want to have sex with him and that she thought she was raped because she was thinking no. The absence of a yes does not equal rape. The fact that she never said no or stop also indicates it was not a rape by any rational definition of rape. NOBODY can read another person’s mind, and absent some verbal OR nonverbal communication of no or stop or don’t nobody can know if someone is only thinking those things. The absence of a yes does not equal rape. If it does then I have been raped.
Posted by: B-K KnightRider | November 8, 2011, 6:26 pm 6:26 pm
So, I guess it will be Mitt v. Obama? I don’t see anyone else even viable.
Posted by: Zippy | November 8, 2011, 8:04 pm 8:04 pm
The first two won’t come forward and it was ruled by the association that there was no substance to the charges. The fifth woman said Cain did not do anything inappropriate and she works for the Obama administration. This woman, Sharon, never filed a complaint and was seen hugging him at a Teacom event a month ago. Why would anyone hug someone that supposedly assaulted them? I would wait for this to iron itself out. Something still sounds fishy.
Posted by: Independent | November 8, 2011, 8:23 pm 8:23 pm
“Do you have any reliable objective or subjective evidence upon which to base a rational reason to believe Cain and doubt ALL FOUR of the women we know about?” Posted by KN
Innocent until proven guilty AND Axelrod’s neighbor, Obama employees.
“When women complain of sexual harassment, sexual assault, or rape my default position is to give them the benefit of the doubt while I look for rational reasons to doubt their claim. In other words, my position is to trust but verify when women (or men) make these kinds of complaints. I always apply the same standard, and I would now even if these four women were saying the same thing about President Obama. ” Posted by KN
Oh how funny. Axelrod and Obama had ANY records locked up tighter than a drum before Obama started running. Don’t you think it odd that not even ONE old girlfriend has appeared to say, “He was a good guy.” Or, “He was kinda weird.”? You need to look up his Senate race, and the slimy tactics he used to win.
“”Cain’s politics and race are totally irrelevant to me.” Posted by KN
Of course they are. You are a paid hack for Obama, so you could care less what Cain says.
“I know of no rational reason to doubt ALL FOUR of the women who are basically saying the same thing .” Posted by KN.
Government employees, Axelrod neighbor, habitual lawsuits, needs money.
“Cain is a serial sexual harasser.” Posted by KN
Spoken like a true paid Obama employee. But an ignorant person.
Posted by: wheresmymoney | November 8, 2011, 8:46 pm 8:46 pm
Cain must really be a threat to the Demos. They are pulling out the dirty tricks to bring him down.
Posted by: Nikos | November 8, 2011, 8:52 pm 8:52 pm
GreenGoddess, your experience of the “rules” in a Fortune 500 THIRTY YEARS AGO is laughable. The millennium has happened since then, computers are the rage, attorneys are a dime a dozen, and LAWSUIT is the easy way to make a buck.
It is cheaper for companies to pay off an accuser than to take them to court.
Posted by: wheresmymoney | November 8, 2011, 9:00 pm 9:00 pm
“President Obama’s Agriculture Department today announced that it will impose a new 15-cent charge on all fresh Christmas trees—the Christmas Tree Tax—to support a new Federal program to improve the image and marketing of Christmas trees.”
OMG. And Dems wonder why businesses aren’t hiring. Obama tax surprise!
Posted by: wheresmymoney | November 8, 2011, 9:14 pm 9:14 pm
I won’t be surprised if his supporters still support them is he’s shown to be wrong. Bribery, lying, and impinging on liberty.
Posted by: Jeffrey | November 8, 2011, 10:07 pm 10:07 pm
Since it’s been revealed that this woman has a history of making sexual harassment complaints, I’d say she’s the monster. People like her trivialize true sexual harassment and make it harder for real victims to receive justice. SHAME!
Posted by: Trish | November 9, 2011, 9:17 am 9:17 am
Herman Cain said the democrat machine leaked these accusations. I’ll bet if Herman went to the DNC and said he needed money to stay in the race, they would give it to him. We democrats would love to see Herman Cain win the republican nomination, why would we shoot him down?
Is Herman Cain so arrogant that he thinks we democrats are so afraid of his idiotic tax plan, his hypocritical stand on social issues and his total lack of common sense that we would make any effort to stop him from running?
Posted by: tmferretti | November 9, 2011, 9:50 am 9:50 am
Is it any wonder why women don’t come forward when sexual harassment takes place, when they are smeared in public by the accused and called liars. In most all instances like this that are in the public eye, women are dragged through the mud to discredit their story of abuse. And of course the denials by the men are assumed to be the truth, “why would they lie”. Cain has nothing to lose by denying the charges because he knows that the current women don’t have actual witness’s to the abuse. Sooner or later his morals will be displayed for all to see when someone comes forward with witness’s to corroborate their story. Then maybe those that jump on the smear bandwagon can go the way of Cain, straight to hell.
Posted by: Indymind | November 9, 2011, 11:13 am 11:13 am
As a man, if I was accused of sexual harassment and I didn’t do it, there would be no settlement or agreement. I would fight until the woman recanted or apologized. One of the few things a man should never compromise on is his character.
The fact that Cain even agreed to a settlement shows there was involvement on both sides, no matter who is lying or not.
Posted by: tmferretti | November 9, 2011, 12:10 pm 12:10 pm
TMFERRETTI–”Is Herman Cain so arrogant that he thinks we democrats are so afraid of his idiotic tax plan, his hypocritical stand on social issues and his total lack of common sense that we would make any effort to stop him from running?”— Have you not checked out the polls lately?? Cain is tied with or LEADING Obama in several hypothetical polls now.. BUT the real kicker is that “Generic Republican Candidate” leads Obama by 4 to six points in most of these polls.. Let me spell that out to you.. on a head to head basis, Obama leads several of the GOP contenders.. thats because none of the contenders has the support of GOP voters who are stilling supporting someone else.. BUT when it comes to supporting a generic candidate against Obama, he loses.. Here is how that translates.. As it stands right now.. Obama does not lose to some of the individual candidates, but he does lose to the eventual nominee NO MATTER who that is…
Posted by: arkie vet | November 9, 2011, 12:24 pm 12:24 pm
TMFERRETTI–”As a man, if I was accused of sexual harassment and I didn’t do it, there would be no settlement or agreement. I would fight until the woman recanted or apologized. One of the few things a man should never compromise on is his character.
The fact that Cain even agreed to a settlement shows there was involvement on both sides, no matter who is lying or not.”— Actually Cain did NOT agree tot he settlement, the restaurant association did.. Which is why he was unclear on the amount of the settlements when he was first asked.. Check the facts… Cain was not involved in the settlements, the association agreed to them as most large companies do as a matter of fiscal responsibiliy.. If you can settle a claim (even if its frivilous) for 35 or 40K and a non disclosure agreement, or you can take it to court and spend 3 of 4 times that to prove that it is frivilous to begin with, most corporate lawyers will settle and save the company money.. The fact that Cain himself was NOT EVEN INVOLVED in the settlement.. and the fact that the amount was pretty small by most standards, indicates that this was probably frivilous… even the accusre herslf said it was not implicitly sexual in nature.. apparently Cain made a comment about her height (“Your 5 foot tall like my wife” he said as he put his hand on her forehead according to the woman’s complaint)… She claimed it “made her uncomfortable” and the company wrote her a check and said GO AWAY.. pretty standard practice.. As far as miss Bialiek is concerned, Cain says if didn’t happen, but lets assume that it DID.. She was unemployed, and instead of calling cain or emailing him for a possible job, She FLEW to DC from Chicago, informed him, claims he picked her up and told her he had upgraded her room t a suite, then she went out with him for drinks and dinner… According to her he got physical with her on the way back and when she said no, he stopped, took her back to her suite and dropped her off… THAT sounds like a date that was iniatied by her that went poorly and ended appropriately after the parties realized they were not on the same page.. Her contention of what exactly he did and the contention that he asked her “You want a job don’t you?” is an uncorraborated statement (he said – she said).. So lets take it at face value… IF he is guilty of anything its misinterpreting the intent of a woman who flew to DC to go on a date with him.. HARDLY meets the definition of harrassment or abuse.. Ask any woman out ther if they hafve ever been on a date where the other person tried to become physical when they did not want to..the answer i am sure would be that most have been in that situation.. IF the other person does not take no for an answer, then there is a definate problem, but in this case, by her own testimony, when she said no, he took her home with no further incident.. This reaks of a smear job… and personally, he does not have to explain anything.. YOU are supposed to be innocent until proven guilty.. if the women want to make an issue of this, then they MUST be the one’s who provide some support for their claim..
Posted by: arkie vet | November 9, 2011, 12:47 pm 12:47 pm
B-K knightrider–”Except of course for the paperwork the Restaurant Association is sitting on which contains the two original formal complaints, the association’s investigations, the results/findings of those investigations, and the settlement agreements. If Cain is so innocent then why isn’t Cain waving around a release form while screaming for HIS former association to release a redacted copy of all of the paperwork”– Apparently you are not in the loop on this… Cain did ask the association to waive the non disclosure agreement and THEY DID.. so far the women have yet to present any of the information to the public.. the association can waive the agreement but they can’t then publicize the settlements.. they are the defendants.. the PLAINTIFFS are the one’s who have rights of disclosure.. They are the one’s who ultimately decide if the agreements are made public or not.. the association has simply waived the agreement to allow them to do so if they choose… AND SO FAR THEY HAVE NOT….kinda makes you wonder don’t it??
Posted by: arkie vet | November 9, 2011, 1:00 pm 1:00 pm
ARKIE VET
I don’t know, all the polls I’ve seen have President Obama beating any of the Republican candidates. I don’t believe in polls anyway, they are a snap shot in time and depend on how the question is asked. The thing that I see as evidence of the way the election will go is what happened in Arizona last night with Russell Pierce (a tea party favorite) getting beat badly. He had the support of Sheriff Joe Arpaao who all the republican candidates have been courting and still lost.
The only republican candidate we democrats sweat is John Huntsman. He’s smart, articulate and has a real record of creating jobs in Utah. He doesn’t have a chance in hell of getting nominated. The president faces no problems with the rest.
As for Cain, he knew the restaurant association cut these deals, if I were completely innocent I would have told the association not to do to any settlement and fought for my moral integrity.
Posted by: tmferretti | November 9, 2011, 1:02 pm 1:02 pm
TMFERRETTI–Not sure what youa re looking at.. here is a recent report from Rasmussen:
Tuesday, November 08, 2011
A generic Republican candidate continues to lead President Obama in a hypothetical Election 2012 matchup, this time by four points for the week ending Sunday, November 6.
The latest Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey of Likely U.S. Voters finds the generic Republican earning 46% support, while the president picks up 42% of the vote.
I agree with you that polls are suspect, especially when differences in wording can make major swings in the result.. but the bottom line is that right now, Obama has more than his hands full winning reelection.. it doesn’t look like he is going to have unemployment under 9%, there are record numbers of folks on food stamps, the debt is skyrocketing by double the rate it was under Bush, and remember what i said, while he beats most of the republican candidates in a head to head, its fairly close.. once the nominee is selected and those who are dedicated to one of the candidates who is NOT the eventual nominee move their support to the nominee, it should make for a significant surge… right now, all the polls are pitting Obama against a divided field.. Which is why he wins those, but loses in several of the generics..
Posted by: arkie vet | November 9, 2011, 1:20 pm 1:20 pm
TMFERRETTI–TMFERRETTI–Not sure what youa re looking at.. here is a recent report from Rasmussen:
Tuesday, November 08, 2011
A generic Republican candidate continues to lead President Obama in a hypothetical Election 2012 matchup, this time by four points for the week ending Sunday, November 6.
The latest Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey of Likely U.S. Voters finds the generic Republican earning 46% support, while the president picks up 42% of the vote.
I agree with you that polls are suspect, especially when differences in wording can make major swings in the result.. but the bottom line is that right now, Obama has more than his hands full winning reelection.. it doesn’t look like he is going to have unemployment under 9%, there are record numbers of folks on food stamps, the debt is skyrocketing by double the rate it was under Bush, and remember what i said, while he beats most of the republican candidates in a head to head, its fairly close.. once the nominee is selected and those who are dedicated to one of the candidates who is NOT the eventual nominee move their support to the nominee, it should make for a significant surge… right now, all the polls are pitting Obama against a divided field.. Which is why he wins those, but loses in several of the generics..
Posted by: arkie vet | November 9, 2011, 1:26 pm 1:26 pm
ARKIE VET
In a normal election cycle, your right the state of the economy is paramount. However, today we have a Congress that’s useless and the President seems to be the only one focused on jobs. The republicans seem to be focused on each other and in giving the rich and wealthy more breaks at the expense of the middle class. In this case the electorate will more and likely give him a pass.
It took FDR a few years to get a handle on the depression but the people knew he was at least doing his best. FDR knew how to enlist the help of the people, fireside chats, sending Eleanor to be with the out of work miners, etc; the President is doing the same thing.
Posted by: tmferretti | November 9, 2011, 1:42 pm 1:42 pm
It’s obviously clear that He didn’t do it. Otherwise, why did they wait so long before coming out? Seriously! They didn’t say anything until after his numbers and supporters got strong; this guy has been on TV and radio way to long. If it was honesty true, they would have came out a lot sooner. So the question is? who is paying them, how much? The best part about all of it is the more they complain the more people are digging in. They are already getting caught up in there lies. They will end up destroying there own reputation, and hopefully for good.
Posted by: The truth will prevail | November 9, 2011, 1:52 pm 1:52 pm
No one is destroying Herman Cain’s reputation more than Herman Cain. If I were accused of something I didn’t do, no settlements or no agreements would be made on my behalf, nothing less than a full recantation or apology would do.
I find it hard to believe that the American Restaurant Association would enter into these agreements without telling him. If this is the case and they didn’t tell him, Cain should be suing that association for putting him in this position.
Posted by: tmferretti | November 9, 2011, 2:27 pm 2:27 pm
tm..if you were to actually sit on a board you will find agreements are often made when terminating someone. having two daughters in the corporate world and sitting on several boards sexual harassment rarely ever really happens. usually a non performer threatens a claim if being terminated or passed over. i will wait to judge until the facts are in. sounds like the gal at INS tired to pull the same stunt there. now unlike 15 years ago we dont settle to keep the insurance companies happy we say prove it and they cant.
Posted by: catman | November 9, 2011, 5:07 pm 5:07 pm
Anybody have a picture of them together? Does not require nudity. It will go to whether Cain is telling the truth when he says he doesn’t recognize her. Oh yeah, he’ll probably say it was photoshopped or that it’s not the same women, or one of another hundred lies.
Posted by: rob | November 10, 2011, 12:41 pm 12:41 pm
David Axelrod is behind it. Axelrod needs to watch his back.
Posted by: Hogs | November 10, 2011, 1:52 pm 1:52 pm
I said I like the idea of having an African-American president………………….that’s Obama. I did not say I wanted a pimp for a president. That’s Cain. There’s a difference!!
Posted by: Mingo | November 14, 2011, 7:56 pm 7:56 pm
“Sexual harassment rarely ever really happens. usually a non performer threatens a claim if being terminated or passed over.” posed by catman
These statements of “fact” are not based on statistics, cases, or anything else. We all have our stories. Perhaps his daughters have not seen much sexual harassment. That doesn’t mean that it doesn’ t happen.
When I worked in banking, I was vulgarly addressed by a man who worked with me and threatened. I went to my boss, who was a woman and a vice president at the bank. She said that without a witness there was nothing she could do–not even talk to him or have Human Resources talk to him. I was humiliated. I did not file a sexual harassment charge; I could not afford an attorney. I just quit and moved on to another job. My experience from 13 years in banking is that several women I worked with were sexually harassed. I never discussed this with a man, but my feeling is that it happens to men also. I am just grateful that most companies now conduct training so that their employees understand what sexual harassment is…
I don’t know if Mr. Cain is guilty or not. I believe that Bill Clinton was guilty of sexual harassment as well as having consensual sex with someone he was not married to. He also lied to a grand jury. Shouldn’t we be grateful that IF Cain did what the women accuse him of that it is coming out now instead of later???
I do not understand all the name calling. I am also disturbed by all the “facts” not supported by any links to evidence.
Posted by: Rudy | November 14, 2011, 10:50 pm 10:50 pm