‘Supercommittee’ Draws to a ‘Disappointing’ Close, Members Still Searching for Deal

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Although the bipartisan “supercommittee” charged with forging a deficit-reduction plan has all but announced its failure, there is a last-minute effort by a few members of the group to salvage something – anything – to save face.
A group of seven members of the supercommittee held a three hour meeting in the office of Sen. John Kerry’s office. After the meeting Republicans and Democrats leaving the meeting continued to insist this is a sign the committee is still working and have not given up yet, even though the clock is ticking toward their midnight deadline.
Senator Max Baucus, D-Mont., suggested there is a new tax plan on the table that the group has been discussing as a possible last-minute way forward.
“There’s a new idea, which confirms my point, we’re continue to meet, there are nuisances,” Baucus said leaving the meeting, “Both sides are feeling angst and greater angst at the possibility of no agreement so we are working harder and more creatively to see what can be accomplished. And that’s happening on both sides.”
But an aide with knowledge of the discussions says to not read too much into the idea of a new plan saving the day just yet.
“Though talks continue, there is no sense of progress. The Republicans are simply not budging and this appears to be going nowhere,” a Democratic aide said following the meeting.
“We’re still talking,” Democratic co-chair Murray, D-Wash., said leaving the meeting.
The fact that there were seven members of the 12-member supercommittee in the bipartiisian meeting today should not be overlooked; seven votes is what any plan needs in the committee to get an agreement.
Republicans, including Kyl, Portman and Upton are now meeting now separately in Senator Portman’s office.
Arriving to her office on Capitol Hill this morning, the Democratic co-chair declined to put the final nail in the coffin when asked whether the committee is officially dead.
“No, not yet,” Sen. Patty Murray, D-Wash., said. “We’re still talking and we’ll see what happens today, but the hours are short.”
But time is short, with a self-imposed midnight deadline looming to make a deal and write the agreement to cut $1.2 trillion from the federal deficit.
Absent any last-minute deals, the congressional super committee will issue a paper statement late this afternoon announcing its failure to reach a deal.
“I wouldn’t be optimistic,” Kyl said this morning on Fox News. “I don’t want to create any false hope here. … There will be an announcement by the two co-chairs towards the end of the day as to what the result was either way.”
A paper statement could be released late this afternoon, likely after the markets close, by co-chairs Murray and Rep. Jeb Hensarling, R-Texas, announcing the committee is over.
“It’s disappointing,” Kyl said during an interview with CNN this morning.
Kyl had already announced his retirement earlier this year, and said this morning the outcome of the super committee is one of the biggest disappointments of his career.
Meanwhile, both parties have taken to the airwaves for damage control to fill the time today before their midnight deadline to write an agreement.
There were few members of the supercommittee even on the Hill this morning. The ones who were hit the cable outlets, pointing their fingers at the other party in the blame game that has already begun, while now speaking about the committee mostly in the past tense.
“This was Congress’ responsibility,” Sen. Kerry said on CNN this morning. “Frankly, the only reason we don’t have an agreement is not because we weren’t willing to make reductions to Medicare, health care, do things we needed to do to make the system stronger, to protect it going forward. The reason is we are stuck on this insistence of making the Bush tax cuts for the wealthy permanent. I think the American people will judge that to be insane.”
Sen. Kyl said on CNBC, “Our Democratic friends had a different idea. Their idea was this was the opportunity to raise taxes. And it didn’t matter what we proposed.”
Kyl said what most Republicans have been saying quietly throughout the whole process of the super committee that they believe there were “several incentives” for Democrats not to agree to a deal.
“They get to cut their favorite program, namely our national defense through the sequester program, namely our national defense though the sequester process,” Kyl said. “The president gets to keep his message that there is a dysfunctional Congress and, therefore, he has somebody to blame for the bad economy.”
And talk of overturning the sequester – the trigger of automatic across-the-board cuts – has already started.
“There will be opportunities to amend the effects of this across-the-board sequestration, on the defense side,” Kyl said on CNBC. “There will be efforts to find offsets or other ways to reduce spending so that those cuts in defense spending don’t occur.”

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Posted by: dx | November 21, 2011, 12:06 pm 12:06 pm
The failure of the supercommittee is the ONLY way the Bush Tax Cuts for the wealthy will expire. After this happens, legislators can propose and pass a bill to cut the taxes of the poor and middle class who have been hit hardest in this recession. Seems fair to me.
Posted by: Dr. A | November 21, 2011, 12:08 pm 12:08 pm
Is a super dupper committee in our future?
Posted by: newcountryman | November 21, 2011, 12:14 pm 12:14 pm
‘Super Committee’ Draws to a ‘Disappointing’ Close” – ABC News
Super Duper!
They have proven that the Federal Government is incapable of even cutting a small fraction of the bloated spending.
We have seen the problem more clearly than ever before and it’s the spendoholics in Congress.
Perhaps if our President wasn’t a card carrying member of that club we might have had a chance.
Rick Perry can at least name 2 out of 3 Government agencies that need to be axed.
Barry Hussein O’Bama can’t even name One.
2012 Vote Conservative and give the country a fighting chance.
Posted by: Noz | November 21, 2011, 12:18 pm 12:18 pm
This is not a surprise. Republicans think we can cut our way back to prosperity. They are too stupid to realize that all their cuts will INCREASE unemployment and DECREASE tax revenues (fewer employees means less federal revenue). This whole sorry fiasco was 100% the fault of the House Republicans who politicized the simple measure of increasing the debt ceiling last summer, holding it hostage until we got our credit rating lowered and they created this stupid ‘super committee’ joke. Answer me this, Republicans: how will this create jobs, or help create the conditions needed for job creation in America?
Posted by: Searambler | November 21, 2011, 12:22 pm 12:22 pm
How will decreased federal spending INCREASE employment in America?
Posted by: Searambler | November 21, 2011, 12:23 pm 12:23 pm
2012 Vote Conservative and give the country a fighting chance.
Posted by: Noz | November 21, 2011, 12:18 pm.
LOL! Conservative politics and ideology got us where we are today – in the toilet. Yeah, vote Conservative if you like swimming around in that bowl. While the rich have their paws on the handle………..
Posted by: Searambler | November 21, 2011, 12:26 pm 12:26 pm
“How will decreased federal spending INCREASE employment in America?” – Searambler
Try and thing of the USA as a Company.
When you stop spending money on useless endeavors and bad projects, you strengthen your economic position and poise yourself to make more money and grow the company.
Posted by: Noz | November 21, 2011, 12:35 pm 12:35 pm
It’s government by default. The mandated cuts will go into effect. And the Bush tax cuts for the wealthy will expire in 2013. You can count on nothing getting done before the next presidential election. We have a full year ahead of us of both sides acknowledging how terrible things are while trying to make the case that the other side is to blame. Whatever happened to problem solving?
Posted by: hopesprings52 | November 21, 2011, 12:39 pm 12:39 pm
This committee should have never been created in the first place! Given the stalemate from both sides, why did anyone think another layer of bureaucracy will expedite anything? Although Congress leaders of both Dems and Repubs are to blame, it’s really the President, who is ultimately responsible! This President created this inept committee to shift the blame from him, if it fails to reach a deal! Mr. Obama is just a pure coward, with no leadership skills! All he can do is spend more taxpayers money touring Hawaii and Asia. While the country is in debt and people are out of work! I hope this President burns in hell!
Posted by: tularockstar | November 21, 2011, 12:41 pm 12:41 pm
Why is it so difficult for our elected officials to get the job done. Revamp our current system because obviously its not working. Regardless of Dem or Rep they are useless and not getting things done in Washington. They are probably waiting untul after election to work for a living. Meanwhile millions of Americans are without work.
Posted by: Jay | November 21, 2011, 12:54 pm 12:54 pm
Here’s the solution:
The real problem is that the congress (Senate + House) all have campaigns financed via special interests. The special interests all control their votes via intimidation that if the votes don’t go their way, funding will be removed. SO, we the people need to overpower the factor of money in politics and here’s how…
1) All registered voters regardless of party affiliation (or lack thereof), next time you’re at the ballot box, resolve yourself to not vote to re-elect any member of congress.
2) This action accomplishes two goals:
a) Nullifies the effect of money on their elections (thus truly reverting power back to the people).
b) This will send a message to the next House membership (and puts the Senate on notice): “You now have two years to come to agreement on how to fix this problem; if by the end of your first year you have not arrived at some sort of agreement, then don’t bother campaigning in your second year: you will NOT be re-elected.
Vote like me; set them free!
Posted by: shane | November 21, 2011, 12:57 pm 12:57 pm
TULAROCKSTAR
Your right, this is a useless committee debating the meaningless; cutting spending in the middle of a recession is insane. The whole Congress should be debating jobs bills, not this total republican distraction.
The President had nothing to do with this committee; this was the republican’s idea after John Boehner walked away from a 4 trillion dollar deficit reduction package, negotiated by the president three months ago. Boehner can’t control the tea partiers.
It’s not the Presidents job to do Congress’s job and create legislation.
Posted by: tmferretti | November 21, 2011, 1:03 pm 1:03 pm
“Try and thing of the USA as a Company.” …
What is the saleable product of the USA as a company, again? For the life of me, I don’t recall any revenues to the U.S. governent except taxes. If we have no product being sold (by the government) then the only way to grow the company (country) is through increased taxation without dissemination (spending).
Roads will (continue to) crumble. Bridges, as seen in Ohio about five years ago, will collapse. Street lights will go dim, deliveries will not be made due to the crumbled roads and fallen bridges and the economy will forever slip into the abyss.
I’m not increasing spending as we increase taxes – but there has to be a point to taxes other than a well regulated militia … there WAS more to the preamble of the U.S. Constituion.
Posted by: shane | November 21, 2011, 1:05 pm 1:05 pm
I agree with Gingrich…….this was a totally stupid attempt, by Obama, to gain control of the process, and it should have failed.
Now, let the real Congress do its thing, if they can.
Posted by: Rick McDaniel | November 21, 2011, 1:06 pm 1:06 pm
Vote like me; set them free!
Posted by: shane | November 21, 2011, 1:08 pm 1:08 pm
“How will decreased federal spending INCREASE employment in America?” – Searambler
Try and think of the USA as a Company.
When you stop spending money on useless endeavors and bad projects, you strengthen your economic position and poise yourself to make more money and grow the company. Posted by: Noz | November 21, 2011, 12:35 pm.
LOL! Thanks for that non-answer, Noz. The United States is NOT a company. That’s a simplistic and misleading analogy the Right loves to use. How many companies dramatically increase their spending while simultaneously and deliberately lowering their prices? We did that, by starting TWO wars AND giving away hundreds of billions of dollars to Big Pharma with the Pill Bill, at the same time we lowered taxes – twice. If the USA were a company it would never have done anything as stupid and shortsighted as this. (Smart companies RAISE prices to cover added expenses). And your ‘USA as a company’ analogy also fails because in a company, ALL the employees work FOR that company directly. That is not true of the USA, so your whole “you strengthen your economic position and poise yourself to make more money and grow the company” line is moot. So I ask AGAIN: How will decreased federal spending INCREASE employment in America?
Posted by: Searambler | November 21, 2011, 1:14 pm 1:14 pm
I agree with Gingrich……. this was a totally stupid attempt, by Obama, to gain control of the process, and it should have failed. Posted by: Rick McDaniel | November 21, 2011, 1:06 pm.
LOL! Obama didn’t create the damn super committee – Congress did. Because the REPUBLICAN TeaBaggers in the House were too frikkin’ STUPID to do their jobs last summer………..
Posted by: Searambler | November 21, 2011, 1:17 pm 1:17 pm
Man, there are some stupid people here.
Posted by: Jim Bob jr. | November 21, 2011, 1:24 pm 1:24 pm
The two parties are the source of our problems. They just want to get re-elected. If they win with 51% of the votes, they call it a mandate to do their plan, even though close to half of the votes didn’t like their plans. Every since 1968, both parties have spent the surplus Social Security funds regardless of which controls government. Now we are at the point where we are not bringing in enough Social Security dollars and the two parties say it program is flawed. The truth is that the two parties are the flaw when they spend all the excess every year. There is excess spending in most of our government agencies that could be cut and yet not see any impact on what is their primary function. Taxes on the rich can be increased since the tax rate on them has steady declined since 1944 while the national debt has steady increased during all those years. Could the war in Afghaistan been over years ago if we had not sent most of troops to Iraq for 7 years? Both parties are to be blamed. Kick out incumbents of both parties so that both parties feel like losers. No amount of money from lobbists can save them if they know we know the truth and no longer believe in their lies!
Posted by: MikeMo1947 | November 21, 2011, 1:48 pm 1:48 pm
Should have gone with the Simpson-Bowle recommendations…you know, the other effort sponsored by Obama that he ended up totally ignoring. And with this super-committee he enacted into law by signing the Budget Control Act of 2011, another waste of time since Obama and the dems never wanted it to work so that they could blame a “do-nothing Congress” instead of an inept President. Thankfully an educated electoral can read right through that smoke-screen.
Posted by: Gunner_1959 | November 21, 2011, 1:51 pm 1:51 pm
If only the Democrats had the stones to say why they won’t support a balanced budget amendment.
Posted by: s | November 21, 2011, 2:07 pm 2:07 pm
The republicans have this mis-informed idea that the US government is a business and should be run by businessmen. What business has a military, what business is responsible for the infra-structure of 50 states? What business can make rules that affect the lives of 300,000,000 people?
We’ve seen the smarts of the business men in the republican nomination process, no thanks; business men are not any smarter than anyone else. Usually they are promoted to CEO because they can’t do the job they were appointed to in the first place and are pushed upstairs.
Businesses cut spending in times of low consumer demand, government needs to do the opposite and spend like hell to restore that demand by putting people to work.
Posted by: tmferretti | November 21, 2011, 2:08 pm 2:08 pm
I see all of these people making comments “How will making cuts and decreasing spending increase prosperity?” I guess I can equate that to the question, how will maxing out your credit card make your debt go away? If you max out ALL of your credit cards, borrow a million dollars from the bank and then spend it all, are you more prosperous or just severely in debt. The US government cannot declare bankruptcy folks. It doesn’t go away, it gets larger or smaller. Time to make the debt smaller or pay higher consequences later with higher interest on the debt. Then EVERYONE’s taxes will go up. You think we have people unemployed now? If they don’t stop spending money and pay this off, the unemployment rate of the depression will pale by comparison.
Posted by: sickofitinca | November 21, 2011, 2:09 pm 2:09 pm
searambler…if you want your taxes increased, vote Democrat. It’s that simple. In a market-based, capitalistic (AND FREE) economy, I’d just as soon hold on to as much of my shrinking paycheck as possible. I guess since 2/3 of our economy is driven by consumers, that would make sense to a lot of intellectually honest people. But not you! Take more from citizens to feed an ever-growing government and THAT will lead to long-term prosperity. I guess it all depends on what your definition of prosperity is.
Posted by: s | November 21, 2011, 2:09 pm 2:09 pm
Yes, and Mr. Norquest sits in his office with a smirk on his face as he did yesterday saying that if anyone breaks their pledge to me…their career is over but if you sitck by me…(or do as I say)
you will have a career and I will guide you right into the White House. My God what happened to the republicans? You are letting one man take away your free choice to vote as you feel…this is unpatriotic and unAmerican. Our soldiers are dying in Iraq to give you the freedom to choose and vote as you choose and you are letting one man….a lobbyist…take away your choices. What a bunch of lemmings you all are and what about your promise to the nation to serve them not an idol called Norquest. I am glad Pres. Reagan did not have someone like that because he raised revenue 18 times because the country needs it. You are keeping this country from getting jobs and recovering all because of a lobbyist. I cannot believe the stupidity of this. Every economist says we need cuts and revenue but you refuse to give in on revenue and want to continue the Bush tax cuts permanently even though the economists have said that is exactly what is hurting this country and doing away with them would reduce our deficit tremendously. I am so sick of this congress and the stalling tactics and the blame on the president. Mr. Norquest should be president since he has each one of you in his pocket. I am so pleased I am no longer associated with the republican party after 24 years because I cannot believe it is the same party since the tea party joined it. I can only hope some of you get back your backbones when you see millions on the streets without jobs and for Mr. Gingrich who says go home and take a bath and get a job…..many of them would like to do just that…take a bath and get a job…..where are the jobs the republican party ran on. No wonder in Wisconsin,Ohio and Florida people are fighting back…the rest of the world needs to also and that is what the 99ers are really about.
Posted by: talmag | November 21, 2011, 2:12 pm 2:12 pm
If this were me – I would have to stay at work until the problem was resolved. Its 2:00 in the afternoon – uh…folks….get back to work. Settle this damned thing. Put your parties aside and do what is best for the COUNTRY for once.
Posted by: Jeanie | November 21, 2011, 2:20 pm 2:20 pm
It’s a simple choice. We can cut spending, strangle the economy. put millions of more Americans out of work, or we can spend like hell , put people to work again, increase the tax base and quit worrying about this debt and deficit distraction until our economy is growing.
If you want the United States to become a third world nation, with a low standard of living to provide the corporations with a cheap labor market, listen to the republicans. They will get us there quickly.
Posted by: tmferretti | November 21, 2011, 2:21 pm 2:21 pm
The Democrats have already compromised and allowed cuts to many programs – including Medicare. Yet the Republicans hold to towing the Grover Norquist NO Raising taxes line, even if it is the only way to balance the books. Remember people, in real life there are two sides in accounting-the income and the expense. You cannot cut all expenses – there will always be expenses. You have to raise the income. Republicans raised expenses in 2001 through 2006with Iraq, medicare D and Afghanistan while also cutting the income – unheard of. well, they caused this mess but do not want to do what is necessary to fix it.
Posted by: pksk531 | November 21, 2011, 3:10 pm 3:10 pm
Hello America, Nov 21, 2011, . I think if we had all listened to Fezzy Bear 3 months ago, we could have did away with all the suspense, remember back in August when I told you their super committee would fail? and they did as expected. I guess the more important question is what happens now and what can be done? what happens now is what should have happened 50 years ago, no more $200 toliet seats for the Pentagon, no more $16 breakfast muffins for the Justice Department Lawyers. so I would say its all well and good. and come the fall of 2012, we can get rid of all the Liberal spenders and their lobbyists. sincerely Fezzy Bear
Posted by: Fezzy Bear | November 21, 2011, 3:31 pm 3:31 pm
Dumbest comment ever…”Cutting taxes for the wealthy creates jobs”. Statistics show that as businesses generate more money, they are more likely to move overseas to get tax incentives from those other countries. If cutting taxes for the wealthy creates jobs, then, there are billions of jobs after the GOP era tax cuts between 2001 and 2007, right?
Posted by: arryandan | November 21, 2011, 3:38 pm 3:38 pm
I’m so surprised that a “supercommittee” failed!
Posted by: newcountryman | November 21, 2011, 3:42 pm 3:42 pm
And how was this supercommittee supposed to compromise and come up with a deal that the teabaggers and republicans voted down last summer. Grover Norquist and the Koch brothers don’t care about the voters or tax payers; they don’t care about this nation. Only their pockets. Norquist said on the 60 minutes interview on Sunday (yesterday) that he wants to shrink government to the level of the early 20th century: before there were roads and bridges and that revenue was raised by selling land taken from the Native Americans, the economy was mainly subsistence farming or imanufacturing/ndustry, before there was a Federal Reserve and before there was an income tax. We have all seen the newsreels of the bread lines and starvation during the Great Depression because there was no social security, there was no unemployment benefits, there was no healthcare. I don’t believe the people are going to sit quietly, blame themselves for their predictatment, and silently die. Maybe what Norquist and others want is what happened in Greece and Italy….let a banker run the country. Small Government = Anarchy.
Posted by: Dr. A | November 21, 2011, 5:10 pm 5:10 pm
I’m with Shane, and I’m tired of the finger-pointing by both parties (that includes those here). No one has done the job they were elected to do and every member of Congress should resign in shame. But they have no shame, so we need to vote them all out. In order to stay on the gravy train, they sell their souls to those who promise the most money or votes. They need to be running scared—not assume they’ll get re-elected for the umpteenth time—or they will never change their ways. Wake up America: enough with voting like clueless sheep for only your party’s candidates! My representatives—both Democrat and Republican—haven’t done a thing for me. Vote every incumbent out; they’ve shown us there’s no difference, they are only in it for themselves—or they would have solved the budget crisis long ago. If we don’t stop the madness, perhaps we do get the government we deserve.
Posted by: LagunaTriMom | November 22, 2011, 2:15 am 2:15 am
Newt has a new jobs plan. He feels that union janitors who make $14/hr are making too much. He wants to lower the minimum working age to 9 years old so 4th graders can take over the janitorial duties. He thinks this will instill the work ethic in youngsters.
I swear I am not making this up, Wolf Blitzer reported this on CNN yesterday.
Posted by: tmferretti | November 22, 2011, 8:13 am 8:13 am
Quote from Winston Churchill: I contend that for a nation to try to tax itself into prosperity is like a
man standing in a bucket and trying to lift himself up by the handle
Posted by: glaswacker1 | November 22, 2011, 10:00 am 10:00 am
SEARAMBLER—”Republicans think we can cut our way back to prosperity. They are too stupid to realize that all their cuts will INCREASE unemployment and DECREASE tax revenues (fewer employees means less federal revenue). This whole sorry fiasco was 100% the fault of the House Republicans who politicized the simple measure of increasing the debt ceiling last summer, holding it hostage until we got our credit rating lowered “— Ummm.. you do understand that the cuts would come against GOVERNMENT agencies.. which means that those who would lose their jobs would be GOVERNMENT employees right??? An increase in unemployment among GOVERNMEN employees does not DECREASE tax revenue, it increases it.. See, governemtn employees make MORE in income (from tax dollars) than the give to the government in taxes..surely you cna figure that out can’t you searambler.. Thats the problem with our country today.. GOVERNMENT is TOO BIG.. which means it is too much of a drain on revenues from the private sector… DUHHHH… And second.. increasing the debt ceilingis nota “simple measure” in as much as everytime we do it, we are drivig another nail i our own coffin.. and by the way S&P stated that the argument was not what caused the downgrade, the facttaht we can’t control ou spending and needed to increase the ceiling yet again is what caused the downgrade.. Gee, why is it so hard to figureout.. the problem is NOT low revenue, its HIGH spending, we do NOT NEED TO RAISE ANY TAXES.. we need to CUT SPENDING…
Posted by: arkie vet | November 22, 2011, 5:23 pm 5:23 pm