Tucson Shooting Survivors Urge Congress to Act on Gun Laws

Stricter gun laws are just the first step towards complete confiscation. The 2nd Amendment was put there for a reason, to guarantee the people’s right to self defense against criminals and governments, which in many cases overlap. These people certainly have good intentions, but tyrants will abuse their power and attempt to disarm their opponents because of some people’s good intentions.

Same old horse snot, over and over. I agree that if real men and women, the kind who had the same spirit as those who successfully resisted/repelled a tyrannical government, tamed a wild country, and built a strong nation, had been there that day with their personal protection, the tragedy would have been quickly and greatly reduced. However, we’ve grown into a nation of wussies, and government teat-suckers, and require the government to do more and more for us each day. We allow our country to be invaded by illegal aliens (an act of war, some would say), then pee on the officials that try to boot them back out.
We get what we ask for . . .

Would love to see people in this country have an honest discussion about guns. Unfortunately you have people who want to make this out as though it’s a war between people protecting your right to own a gun and people who are trying to take them all away. Most people are capable of a far more nuanced argument. I am proud of these survivors for standing up and speaking out and trying to start a conversation. I wish them luck.

GreenGoddess —
Northwest of what country? In the United States it is a violation of federal law for any person who has been judged mentally ill or has been convicted of a felony to possess a firearm even at home. Background check required for CHL would quickly prevent issue of licence.
It is not uncommon for gun ban advocates to invent or twist events to suit their agenda. It’s usually pretty easy to spot them. Better luck next time.

I do agree with gun safety training for everyone starting early with the NRA Eddie Eagle program. Unfortunatly gun ban people usually object to such education preferring the head in the sand approach.

Waste-o-Time™

Just let good people act and think without fear of lawyers.
Loughner would have never been able to buy the guns if folks were allowed to use their brains.

What we need is a Common Sense 101 Law.

This is truly incredible. THERE ARE ALREADY LAWS AND PROCEDURES TO SCREEN OUT DANGEROUS PERSONS in the form of the National Instant Check System (NICS) designed to allow a seller to access the National Crime Information Center (NCIC) at the time of purchase. In the case of Jared Loughtner, there was never a history of any arrest even entered into the NCIC data base because the police and sherrifs departments refused arrest Loughner for ANY of his many offenses of drug possession and threating others. This was a case of inaction by law enforcement and mental health authorities. ANY mention of ANY arrest for threatening others and/or drug possession would have red flagged Loughner at the time of purchase and he would have walked out of the store without a gun. Address that ABC News.

State Law Enforcement, 1988-2004
Operation Iraqi Freedom, 2006-2007
Teacher, 2010- Present
NRA Member, Life

I just read the Fix Guns Check Act, like it and especially this part taken from the summary:
‘Amends the Higher Education Act of 1965 to require each college, university, or postsecondary institution that receives federal funds under such Act or financial assistance under any federal program to develop and implement a mental health assessment plan for assessing, reporting, and referring students who pose a safety risk to themselves or others, informing their families, and addressing such risks.’
Had college and universities’ administrations had any common sense, they would have e been doing this all along and prevented needless deaths.
That is why we need so many laws, the lack of common sense is pervasive, just look at Penn State!

@LIBRARIAN53, I too read the Fix Guns Check Act S.436. If you know how deceptive laws are written, there are many gray areas that could include returning armed forces veterans who were hospitalized for injuries and placed on pain medications that — due to their nature — became habit forming. Even the Department of Veterans Affairs VA Health Care system is aware of that inevitability and has a program to get VA patients off of those long term medications when they are no longer needed and authorized. That in itself would be an “admission” to the unauthorized use of a controlled substance, even if it happened in the past and is no longer an issue. Iraq and Afghan veterans will be filling college and university rosters in unprecedented numbers. These vets should not be “targets of convenience” to promote more worthless gun control.

Just remember, if Chuck Schumer (D-NY), the very man who said that no American outside of police or the military should ever possess a gun, the very man who said that the Brady Bill was the “nose of the camel under the tent” has anything to do with a gun control bill, you can count on it being filled with smoke and hokum.

Since we already have laws that mandate the use of the National Instant Check System to access the National Crime Information Center data base, then we should continue to use that system, and mandate that law enforcement, courts, and mental health authorities do their jobs before we enact more repetitious, useless, and even dangerous gun control laws.

State Law Enforcement, 1988-2003
Operation Iraqi Freedom, 2006-2007
Teacher, 2010- Present
NRA Member- Life

I just read the Fix Guns Check Act, like it and especially this part taken from the summary:
‘Amends the Higher Education Act of 1965 to require each college, university, or post-secondary institution that receives federal funds under such Act or financial assistance under any federal program to develop and implement a mental health assessment plan for assessing, reporting, and referring students who pose a safety risk to themselves or others, informing their families, and addressing such risks.’
Had college and universities’ administrations had any common sense, they would have e been doing this all along and prevented needless deaths.
That is why we need so many laws, the lack of common sense is pervasive, just look at Penn State!

LIBRARIAN53, what is needed is for law enforcement and mental health authorities to do their jobs. I was in law enforcement and administration for 17 years. Likewise, my wife is a registered nurse and mental health professional. We can both attest to the fact that both law enforcement and mental health authorities are quick to shy away from their responsibilities at every turn due to costs and legal ramifications. That is where the problem really exists — not in law abiding citizens who will be the only targets of this bill if it is signed into law.