Dec 8, 2011 6:00am

A Glimpse Into the Young, Undecided Likely Caucusgoer

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DES MOINES, IOWA-The latest ABC News/Washington Post poll released Tuesday revealed that 55 percent of likely caucusgoers in Iowa are still undecided or persuadable voters. Wednesday evening, ABC News was able to get a glimpse into the mind of some young Iowans that will attend next month’s caucuses, most of them undecided voters.

At two different focus groups, Iowans between the ages of 22 and 29 split into different groups by party affiliation spoke frankly about their lives, politics and during the Republican group, who they are thinking of caucusing for next month.

The focus groups were sponsored by Harvard University’s Institute of Politics and the Culver Public Policy Center at Simpson College in Indianola, Iowa. Although it’s hard to say that a focus group is representative of the average voter, it was a window into the mind of a young caucusgoer in the Hawkeye state.

During the Republican focus group all confirmed they would indeed participate in the Jan. 3rd caucuses. Out of the eight, six voted for John McCain, one voted for Barack Obama, and another, a 25-year-old former Marine, now a student from the Des Moines suburb of Ankeny, was serving in Iraq and did not vote.

The one Obama voter, a 27-year-old who is also a former marine from the Des Moines suburb of Urbandale said he voted for Obama last time, but he’s “disappointed” now.

“I had hoped that he would be more effective as a leader. I thought his charismatic disposition would affect change,” the now businessmen said. ABC News was invited to observe the focus group, but could not identify participants.

He caucused for Mitt Romney in the last cycle, but said John McCain’s choice of Sarah Palin as his running mate in 2008 “sealed the deal for me,” because he felt she wasn’t prepared and he worried about McCain’s age. He remains undecided this cycle and said he probably won’t decide until two weeks before. Despite his disappointment, he was pleased with one accomplishment of the president’s.

“Hearing that Osama Bin Laden got whacked was some good emotional security, but you see it didn’t even raise [Obama's] approval rating very much,” the former Marine and Urbandale resident said.

Most of the group was still deciding, but three of the eight were “locked in” to candidates. A 26-year-old mother from Polk City who home schools her children said she was “positive” she’s voting for Rick Santorum.

A 27-year-old Internet analyst from Clive, another Des Moines suburb, has chosen Ron Paul and is also volunteering for him.

“This is the first year I’ve found a candidate I’m excited about,” he said.

Another student and mother of a four year old from Altoona also said she was also committed to Ron Paul.

The group all agreed that their state being the first place that casts a ballot is important.

“Iowa really decides who the field is going to be and I don’t know if all of Iowa realizes that,” the student and former Marine from Ankeny said. “I think it’s so pathetic so many don’t vote, but they are so quick to speak up.”

The other five were undecided, just four weeks out from the caucuses.  A 26-year-old stay-at-home mother of two from Des Moines said she “thinks it’s her responsibility” to caucus, but doesn’t feel inspired by any of the candidates. She supported Mike Huckabee four years ago and wishes he was running again.

“For me it’s the candidate,” she said, before mentioning the reasons she didn’t want to support Newt Gingrich and Romney. “He had cheated on his wife, well he ran companies into the ground. It’s trying to choose between two evils.”

The former marine and current student said he was “leaning towards Ron Paul, but I haven’t made that decision.”

Another participant, a 26-year-old nurse from Altoona said she was a Huckabee supporter as well, but finds this field “very wish washy.”

Another participant, a 22-year-old substitute teacher from Des Moines moved to the state because she couldn’t get a teaching job in Texas. She’s leaning toward her home state governor: Rick Perry.

“Rick Perry, he’s no debater, but I like to look beyond the debates,” she said. “His record is solid.”

The moderator, who is a focus group and survey analyst for Harvard University’s Institute of Politics, asked her how she could favor Perry when she had to leave the state to find work. She said Perry was “brave enough to cut the budget” and blamed schools and the state legislature for a smaller teacher budget.

“I see schools with huge football stadiums and they are firing math and science teachers and hiring coaches,” she said. “His record is solid.”

The moderator asked the Ron Paul volunteer and Internet analyst from Clive if he also agreed with Ron Paul’s foreign policy stances.

“Admittedly that was the hardest thing for me to maybe get over,” he said. “He’s consistent through and through. It’s not isolationism, its non-intervention, participating in the world, but not getting involved where we don’t need to be.”

The moderator asked if anyone in the group was thinking about supporting Gingrich. The former speaker to the U.S. House topped the ABC News/Washington Post poll with 33 percent support, but none of the GOP participants said they were considering him.

He then asked if anyone liked Romney, which received a lukewarm at best, negative at worst reaction.

The former marine who was in Iraq during the last cycle and is now a student immediately responded, “I just can’t stop thinking about his hair.”

The 26-year-old stay-at-home mom from Des Moines agreed.

“You can’t trust a guy with immaculate hair,” she said. “I don’t feel like I can trust him, he seems too smooth … I’ve heard something about businesses going bankrupt and all the people lost their jobs. I don’t know anything specific about it, but we are trying to get jobs.”

The 26-year-old nurse from Altoona agreed: “I just feel like I can’t trust him.”

None of the eight said they were even considering the former Massachusetts governor.

The moderator asked if his religion, Romney is a Mormon, affected their feelings about him.

The nurse said that it did and she’d “like to relate to someone on multiple levels.”

The 27-year-old Ron Paul supporter said it had no impact on why he didn’t like him: “I could care less. I just think he’s a complete phony.”

The second group was made up of eight Democrats who all voted for Obama in the general election including three who caucused for him. Wednesday evening, all said they felt lukewarm or disappointed by Obama.

A 26-year-old Administrative Assistant at Drake University in Des Moines only moved to the state three years ago so she could not caucus for Obama in 2008, but did support him.

“I was passionate about him,” she said. “Now I feel lukewarm, disappointed. Well, I just felt like I really got behind-not that I thought it would be a huge change … but, he doesn’t have the sway-the way of getting things done in a bipartisan way that he hoped to.”

She said she would still vote for him in November because he’s the “lesser of two evils.” The second time the phrase was used in the evening.

Another Obama supporter, an organic farmer from Des Moines said the president came in at a “tough time,” but he “campaigned to change Washington” and “he really hasn’t changed anything about Washington. I can’t blame him for the economy, but I can blame him for the politics.”

The most engaged of the group was a 29-year-old director of a children’s center in Des Moines. She said she caucused for Hillary Clinton, but voted for Obama and is now so frustrated and disappointed with the president that she may support Ron Paul in November.

She also said she doesn’t think Obama knows how to wield his power in Washington: “In politics you have to line pockets, shake hands and he doesn’t know how to do that and we are seeing evidence of that in the supercommittee. It was destined to fail,” she said. “He’s not able to work in that sphere and that’s why we have gridlock.”

She said there is a “big chance” she won’t support Obama, and she is considering Paul adding that he’s “probably the only Republican candidate I think has solid enough ideas that would change a lot of the problems plaguing us.”

She said she would enthusiastically support another Democrat if another candidate would take on the president and said she wished Paul was “electable” because “he has some really good, creative ideas.”

Almost all of the participants in the Democratic group had positive things to say about Paul, with several saying they would consider voting for him.

*Note: ABC’s Gary Langer points out that although these young people are likely caucusgoers, young undecideds are less likely to actually particpate in the caucuses. Originally, this story said 6 out of 10 likely caucusgoers were still undecided or persuadable, it is actually slightly less at 55 percent.

User Comments

Somebody ought to have spell checked your headline. Shame on you.

Posted by: Michelle Langa | December 8, 2011, 6:08 am 6:08 am

Democrats have been running on the same issues for the last 75 years, with no results ! The party of FALSE HOPE !

Posted by: DoSomething | December 8, 2011, 6:14 am 6:14 am

Newt has to go after the younger vote because everyone that knew him in the 90′s in congress knows what kind of fool he is. Look at their comments, sounds like they REALLY know the issues don’t they. Voting requires more than how the candidate looks but, what can you expect from 20 year olds. And if you Obama voters were disappointed with him, you are in for a big surprise if you waste your vote on Newt.

Posted by: Indymind | December 8, 2011, 6:18 am 6:18 am

Iowa is becoming less and less relevant in the primary process. That Gingrich is now the front runner in a state that supposedly prides itself on ‘family values’ and integrity speaks volumes about the desperation of the Republican party. A few months ago they were all rooting for Bachman, but now she’s toast. Then it was Perry, and then it was Cain. Now Gingrich. What a joke!

Posted by: Ed | December 8, 2011, 6:24 am 6:24 am

We may be young. We may be undecided, to a point. Yet, we know that we can’t vote for another term for Obama. Sure we were duped into falling for words and it was the popular thing to do. The great thing about being young is we can learn from our mistakes, and although we can’t necessarily correct them, we can make sure we don’t repeat them.

Posted by: mak | December 8, 2011, 7:37 am 7:37 am

“Almost all of the participants in the Democratic group had positive things to say about Paul, with several saying they would consider voting for him.”

You repug’s better get behind paul…if you don’t want Obama in again….look at the above statement.

Posted by: Charlie | December 8, 2011, 8:04 am 8:04 am

I am in the “young voter” demographic. I find it annoying when older generations say our generation is not engaged and doesn’t know the issues. Not all of us are obsessed with Lady Gaga and pop culture. Some of us actually care about the future of this country. I am an undecided voter, though I am leaning towards Perry. I would have voted for Cain, if he had stayed in the race. I don’t believe the women who came out claiming sexual harrassment for one minute. I do not care how my cantidate looks, I care how they have voted and if they have stuck to promises that they make on the campaign trail. Having said that, I know that Perry has made promises when campaigning as Governor of Texas, however he has done an excellent job with the state. I agree with the one person who said he cut the schools budgets because it had to be done. The local school systems need to learn how to control their spending. Newt has continuously flip-flopped on the issues, including global warming and an individual mandate for healthcare. I cannot, in good faith, vote for a cantidate that cannot be constant on the issues. One more thing, regarding the HPV vaccination issue, all kids in the state of Texas must have a measles shot, TB shot and other shots before they start school, so why is everyone making a big deal about one more vaccination? They don’t have any issues with the already required shots.

Posted by: Jenn | December 8, 2011, 8:37 am 8:37 am

Jenn, you are a great example of 20-something who really, truly doesn’t know the candidates you are talking about. Newt has been a serial flip-flopper throughout his 35 year career in politics, as well as his 13+ years as a Washington insider lobbyist. Herman Cain simply is not ready for the big leagues. Whether or not YOU believe the sexual harassment allegations or the adultery allegation, the fact is Cain thought them to be serious enough for a cash settlement to be given to his harassment accusers to shut them up. And that happened a dozen years ago, well before Cain was running for any office. His inexperience in all things political sunk him, too. Perry is simply the best governor money can buy. Rumor has it the going price in Texas for Perry to enact a law specifically for YOU is $200,000. Pay him and you can get pretty much anything you want (like, say, the sole private nuclear waste disposal site in the state). It’s great that you’re engaged in the political process. But for gods sake, research the candidates as thoroughly as possible, in order to make a truly informed decision. (And please, for the sake of your sanity, do NOT rely on FOX Noise for your information. Those people lie. A lot). Oh, and regarding that HPV vaccine. The issue most people have with it is the fact the Perry decided on his own, without input from anyone else, that every 12 year old girl must have the vaccine. The vaccine that is only made by ONE company, a company that is a huge Perry supporter. He totally ignored his own state legislature and the people of Texas when he made this decision. He basically issued a royal decree. Bottom line is, come November, you will have a choice between Obama and (most likely) Romney. Sure, you can write in Perry, or Cain, or anyone else you want. IF you want to completely waste your vote. Because the winner will be either Obama or the Republican candidate. That, I guarantee. Good luck!

Posted by: Searambler | December 8, 2011, 9:05 am 9:05 am

Jenn what SEARAMBLER fails to tell you is that Gingrich balanced the budget when he was speaker of the house. Searambler also failed to tell you that the Dems and Searambler gave Clinton a pass and excused him when Clinton disgraced the office with a sex scandal. We Americans respect with high honor that office and serve our miltary to help protect it along with your and our childrens freedom. Freedom is a word with meaning that needs to be respected and the radicals are trying to take that from our children. Ohh believe me Searambler will look in his file of answers that the DEM party has provided for him to slam me back. That’s OK, I served in combat to make sure he has that right and it is maintained hopefully for the future.

Posted by: Jim Rod | December 8, 2011, 10:11 am 10:11 am

I voted for Kerry in 04′ and Obama in 08′.

Now, not only am I voting for RON PAUL, I am also presently volunteering for his campaign in Michigan.

Obama=Bush

RON PAUL 2012

Posted by: Young Tike | December 8, 2011, 12:54 pm 12:54 pm

Jim Rod | December 8, 2011, 10:11 am post —- First of all, thank you for your service. I mean that sincerely. You may want to check the story on Newt balancing the budget. Because your Republican colleagues often insist that we never had a balanced budget under Clinton. (Even though GW Bush used it as the excuse for his trillion dollar tax cut in 2001). And if I remember correctly, Clinton was impeached over his lying about having an affair, he wasn’t ‘given a pass’. An impeachment effort led by Newt, who was having ONE of his own adulterous affairs as he was chasing after Clinton. Clinton wasn’t impeached for having an affair, he was impeached for lying to a Grand Jury. I do not know anyone who made excuses for Clinton committing adultery. I do not know any “radicals” on the Left who are trying to take away our children’s freedoms. Do you? I wish ALL of ‘you Americans’ really did respect “with high honor” the high office of the president. Remind me, which Republican Senator yelled out “You lie!” to the president as he was addressing Congress? Read through the comments on these ABC stories for a multitude of anti-Obama hate comments from the Right, then tell me how much they respect office. And don’t tell me that ‘they respect the office but not the man’. That is a BS answer I’ve heard before, and one that makes no sense, although it DOES give them a convenient excuse to shout their hatred of Obama from the nearest rooftop…………

Posted by: Searambler | December 8, 2011, 1:03 pm 1:03 pm

DELEGATES DELEGATES DELEGATES! Make sure you vote for the right delegates. In many states the popular vote means NOTHING. The delegates decide everything! NO DELEGATES, NO RON PAUL…..look into the delegate process in your state and consider becoming one….but don’t tell the party leaders who you support….

RON PAUL OR NONE AT ALL

Posted by: Dave7777 | December 8, 2011, 4:07 pm 4:07 pm

These debates are a waste of time. I dont want any of these idiots running our country.

Posted by: Blake 26 | December 10, 2011, 9:12 pm 9:12 pm

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