Dec 2, 2011 8:05am

Gingrich Says Obama Must Have “Cognitive Dissonance” About Plight of African-American Community

WEST DES MOINES, IOWA — In our interview, I asked former House Speaker Newt Gingrich about concerns I’ve heard about him from Republicans who otherwise like and want to support him.

One, I said, is his propensity to make outrageous remarks, the most recent one being his charhe that child labor laws are stupid.

“Look,” Gingrich said, “at a time when you have up to 43% black teenage unemployment, you have entire communities that are devastated, you have neighborhoods where nobody has worked and nobody has any habit of work, I’d be delighted to — that’s why I want to challenge Obama to 7 three hour debates — I’d be delighted to have a conversation about our current approach to children.

“Young children who are poor ought to learn how to go to work,” he continued. “What I’ve said is, for example, it would be great if inner city schools and poor neighborhood schools actually hired the children to do things. Some of the things they could do is work in the library, work in the front office. Some of them frankly, could be janitorial.

Gingrich notes that “the first counter-attack is ‘Do you realize how hard janitorial work is and do you realize how dangerous it is?’ So I come back and say, OK, what if they cleaned out the bathrooms and what if they mopped the floors? What if in the summer they repainted the school? What if in that process they were actually learning to work, learning to earn money, they had money on their own, they didn’t have to become a pimp or a prostitute or a drug dealer, they had money on their own? They had the dignity of work, and learned how to be around adults who actually wanted to mentor them and help them?

“Now that’s not a casual comment,” Gingrich said. “It actually grows out of a lot of thinking over many years of trying to figure out who do we break out people trapped in poverty who have no habits of work.”

I said to him, “Democrats could very easily take that comment and say ‘Newt Gingrich wants inner city kids to become janitors at age 10.’”

“Right,” Gingrich said, “and the correct answer is that’s a lie. Newt Gingrich wants inner city kids to learn how to have a job at which they earn some money as the first step in the rung in the ladder up.”

Gingrich continued, “this all started  when people on the Left laughed about and derided what they call hamburger flipping jobs. I did an entire thing in one of my courses on the number of people whose first job was at McDonald’s who are now very successful multi-millionaires. And my point is, any work that gets you in the habit of working beats no work.”

Later I asked Gingrich, “You were talking about the African-American community. Do you think that President Obama has not done enough for the African-American community?”

“Well, no,” Gingrich said. “It has been a disaster. But that is a side effect of his economic policies. When you have a destructive economic policy the poorest community gets hit hardest and so they have actually been hurt most by this and it is truly tragic. And I am sure for him it has to almost involve cognitive dissonance because how can he look in – how can he say, ‘This is the community I have done so little for?’ “I think as Americans, forget the president for a moment, Americans if you truly believe you are endowed by our Creator with the right to pursue happiness, one of my major goals, is to apply that to the poorest neighborhoods in America in very very different ways and try to break out of what we have trapped people into for the last forty years.”

-Jake Tapper

 

User Comments

Newt wants to get slavery started again, put the black kids to work in the fields. What is wrong with paying the parents to be the janitor, and allowing them to train there own children. Every poor families children do not grow up to be a drug dealer, prostitute or a pimp. Poor people have morales. Newit does not understand the plight of the african american family.

Posted by: Lavina LaBorde | December 2, 2011, 9:00 am 9:00 am

It is offensive to even equate slavery with paid voluntary work

Posted by: Shawn | December 2, 2011, 9:15 am 9:15 am

@Lavina and what is that exactly? can you spell it out for us? You missed the entire point of the article and turned it into Newt wants to make us all slaves again. You are already a slave cause you are locked into a tiny world inside your own mind. Break out of it and do something. And no I am not some rich educated white woman. I did not go to college but, I have been working since I was 13, sometimes 2-3 jobs at a time but, I earn everything I have and have never expected anything from anyone. My mentality is, if I can dream it I can achieve it and at this point, with my highschool degree, I have climbed the ladder enough to be in my own condo, drive my own car, and still pay my bills, and by the way without 1 single credit card. I came from a 3rd world country knowing I could do for myself here what I couldn’t do back home and have done it without breaking any laws and actually contributing to society. Ask yourself How Can I Make My Life Better? then do it.

Posted by: Marsha | December 2, 2011, 9:22 am 9:22 am

Posted by: Lavina LaBorde | December 2, 2011, 9:00 am 9:00 am

Your public education totally failed you.

Posted by: Mary | December 2, 2011, 9:26 am 9:26 am

Democrats are worried that these kids might actually learn something, develop a work ethic, and leave the DEMOCRAT plantation. That is what keeps them up at night worrying.

Posted by: Michelle Shu Jas | December 2, 2011, 9:31 am 9:31 am

What i find offensive is that Newt is using teenage unemployment of African Americans to to attack the Obama. Really? Teenage unemployment. The fact would be that teenage unemployment is up among all races. Then to say that since black youths don’t have jobs they turn into pimps and drug dealers is the biggest offense of all. People sell drugs because its quick money. It has nothing to do with work ethic. People work hard to sell drugs. His whole argument is flawed. Is making a teenager mop bathrooms and clean kitchens going to stop them from selling drugs? NO. You could make way more money selling drugs. As Lavina said “Every poor families children do not grow up to be a drug dealer, prostitute or a pimp. Poor people have morals.” Poor and black doesn’t make you grow up to be a drug dealer or pimp. The people who raised you affect that more than anybody else.

Posted by: Bryan | December 2, 2011, 10:21 am 10:21 am

Of course Newt has no cognitive dissonance while quite falsely claiming any of his proposed policies will help the African-American community in any way whatsoever. But Newt is so very honest…just ask his last wife.

Posted by: numbers | December 2, 2011, 10:22 am 10:22 am

Well, this is a bit much….a white Washington insider guy empathizing with the black community.

Posted by: newcountryman | December 2, 2011, 10:22 am 10:22 am

Newt wants more Marshas.

Obama wants more Lavinas.

As Newt says, “It’s a choice between the party of paychecks (GOP) or the party of foodstamps (Democrats).

Dems and detractors will talk about Newt’s past and think it is relevant today (was Obama’s past relevant in 2008? Not so much…well, at least his publicized past, so much we still do not know). Voters are yearning for someone who exhibits leadership skills and intelligence than political skills, which is why Newt is rising in the polls.

How weak is Little Barry? Even Newt could beat him!

Posted by: tjp612 | December 2, 2011, 10:49 am 10:49 am

Very good comment at 10:21 Bryan.

Posted by: minds12 | December 2, 2011, 11:35 am 11:35 am

@ countryman- you kept repeating the same thing- we are started to discover people like you- all you do keep bashing Obama! it’s getting boring. Mit and Gingrish will not win. probably you’re one of the 99% which I am- I will vote for Obama again, since you’re one of the 99 pretend not to be, go and vote as the 1%.. Good luck to you

Posted by: pouchon | December 2, 2011, 11:54 am 11:54 am

Poor and Black are not synonymous. I wonder if Newt understands that.

Posted by: Ashley | December 2, 2011, 12:59 pm 12:59 pm

This guy is an embarrassing stain on American society. I bet his hands are as soft as the silk sheets on his very expensive bed. What an ass.

Posted by: zentrxtr | December 2, 2011, 1:21 pm 1:21 pm

Can you even imagine how soft this jerk’s hands are lol?

Posted by: skoolteacher | December 2, 2011, 1:24 pm 1:24 pm

Obamabots: Where in the article does it state that Newt was specifically referring to African-Americans / Blacks is his dialogue (outside of stating ““at a time when you have up to 43% black teenage unemployment, you have entire communities that are devastated, you have neighborhoods where nobody has worked and nobody has any habit of work”? Note that it was Tapper who stated (inferred?) “You were talking about the African-American community.” (perhaps it was Tapper who was playing to racial stereotypes?).

Newsflash: The ethnic backgrounds of pimps, prostitutes, and drug dealers are not limited to the Black community. Given that liberals are notorious for lazily viewing the world through the lens of race (and due to their – in general – poor reading comprehension skills), it is no surprise that the libs immediate assume racism.

It is noted that no one disagrees with Newt’s assertion that there a significant sub-class of Americans who are virtually unemployable (well, in the private sector anyway) due to their lack skills and strong work ethic.

Posted by: tjp612 | December 2, 2011, 2:40 pm 2:40 pm

“Attack their strengths…” Wasn’t that a Karl Rove strategy? Gingrich has no solutions, only criticisms. If he wants my vote, he’ll need a stronger platform than “the other guy sucks”. Tell me what you plan to do that’s better.

Posted by: zrzzz | December 2, 2011, 3:21 pm 3:21 pm

Newt does not know what is really going on in the black community. He never mentioned how education is the key to anyone’s success. He also did not even consider placing these kids in a white-collar environment to learn a work ethic.

Posted by: james | December 4, 2011, 4:39 pm 4:39 pm

Or better yet, how about they graduate from high school and go on to a four year college to become a wall street banker to rob the poor. Or better, how about they graduate and get into politics to lie to the people just to hold a seat in congress!

Posted by: Keith | December 5, 2011, 11:12 am 11:12 am

I am a AA woman and I actually agree with the direction of his statement as a whole. It’s easy to call him a racist and ignore the fact that what he is saying is actually the truth. I grew up in a poor neighborhood and there were a lot of people who did not work or had no intention on working at all, while their children wore $120 Jordans and continued to fail their classes. Despite our surroundings my mother worked hard everyday and made sure that I did the same and eventually we left that world behind and I got a job as soon as I turned 15 and it has always made a difference in my work ethic. There is nothing wrong with teaching kids discipline they have it too easy rich and poor alike., however, the poor will only suffer because they don’t have parents to finance their laziness just the government.

Posted by: BCW | December 5, 2011, 11:23 am 11:23 am

When you read any statement from a ‘politician’ you have to look at it critically! They always say one thing, but they mean something else. With the implementation of policy surrounding illegal immigrants, we now have low paying, extremely hard labor jobs that are not being filled! For example, we need people to go out into the fields in the southern states to pick he crops that are now going bad due to lack of man power. So, why not hire the poor teenager or 10 year old to do the job? They may only make mimimum wage, but for ‘them’ that is good enough…at least they will have some money in their pockets…right! The one good thing about this type of thinking is that one summer of doing something like this…may make the kids understand the value of a education. It may reduce the drop out rate of our young african-american males. One summer of doing this type of labor would be enough for me! Believe me, New’t could care less about the future of the poor and/or african american kids. He is just looking for some cheap labor.

Posted by: VLB | December 5, 2011, 12:01 pm 12:01 pm

What about the children who are not poor Gingrich? They must be so over-privileged that it would be unfair to give them the opportunity of….child labor??? Are you trying to say the parents who have a lot of money have children with stronger work ethics? The poor children don’t need a job but some of their parents need a job “Some of the things they could do is work in the library, work in the front office. Some of them frankly, could be janitorial.”
Gingrich notes that “the first counter-attack is ‘Do you realize how hard janitorial work is and do you realize how dangerous it is?’ I hope he does because it’s the truth. With issue like huffing inhalant popular among teens today, WHY would you leave them unattained to do janitorial work with a closet full of inhalants? I will also note the counter attack that ‘Adults will supervise them.’ First then let the adults do the job & furthermore I must say GET REAL! If that was the case teenage drug use wouldn’t even be around. Also imagine a fight between 2 teen …………………….. now imagine the fight if the school gave these 2 teens access to chemicals that can burn eyes & skin.
“Young children who are poor ought to learn how to go to work,” …..Ummm No. A lot of children know what work is. It’s the reason they have what little they have. It’s the reason why their moms & dads spend less time with them during the week during the school year. The reason why their parents are tired during the day: because their parents work nights to at least see their children in the after noon. Those parents want nothing but for their children to get an education that can get them a great career for better quality of living than the one that their parent could afford them….. I live in the inner city with my mother. My mother WORKS HARD & this is what she wants for me. She said, Frankly Newt, all this ‘be a child janitor’ BS you’re talking about gets in the way of focusing on what children are truly in school for, EDUCATION. In high school my dad helped me get a job, but I could only keep it as long as my grades stayed high. What’s my point:
EDUCATION IS WHAT REALLY MATTERS! IT HELPS PEOPLE GET BETTER JOBS THAN BEING A JANITOR!!
What I really want to know when are these inner city children suppose to work:
A. When they should be in class studying,
B. When they should be doing homework,
C. During the time that they usually take care of chores at home,
D. On the weekend, the two days (sometimes only one day or no days if there’s a weekend assignment or the child has an active hobby) they have off every week from their REAL JOB: SCHOOL SCHOOL SCHOOL…

Want to give these kids a fighting chance, bring back after school programs with TEACHER & STUDENT VOLUNTEER TUTORS, LOWER COLLEGE TUITION FOR EVERYONE, & MAKE NEW DIVERSE JOB! Where I live everybody becomes a PCA or CNA (nurse) because they hire quick & easy. Just train for it & your in. Unfortunately I don’t want to be a nurse though I took the job. I want to make solar panels. I would appreciate if more tech jobs having to do with solar & clean energy were made in abundance across the country. Whoever does that & leaves child labor laws as they are gets my vote.

Posted by: Angel | December 5, 2011, 12:12 pm 12:12 pm

Truth really hurts. Call a spade, a spade. It doesn’t matter who is saying it, its true. We know it and see it. Everything time some one speak out on blks, someone is offended. They couldn’t say it if it wasn’t true………..When Bill Cosby said his spill, people were in up roar…….over the TRUTH

Posted by: Gwin | December 5, 2011, 3:12 pm 3:12 pm

Although Newt is somewhat off base with his thoughts, he’s touched upon some points that may have been some of the most profound ideas that have been uttered out of the mouth of any politician over the last 40 years. As an black man who grew up in poverty and had very little chance to get an education, I found a way to overcome my challenges and become a productive citizen by first of all, working everyday to earn a living for myself. Too many other black folks have no role models to teach them about what it takes to become a viable working commodity. But here’s the problem that conservatives like Newt and others like him ignite when they address problems like this: They don’t put their money where their mouth is. I am a Workforce Development professional who has been laid off in Texas. Our wonderful governor has not made one single effort to allow people like myself–who have the skills– to create solutions for these sorts of problems. Instead, he hires his croonies to provide the leadership in Workforce capacities who have no understanding as to how we really can teach job education skills to the kids that Newt is referring to. I find it repulsive that our Workforce boards are comprised of all conservative-minded folks who also not in touch with the huge workforce-related deficientcies of of the urban community. If newt really want to know how we can start tackling these issues, he can contact me.

Posted by: WJ | December 5, 2011, 6:02 pm 6:02 pm

What I do not understand is how someone could be so blatantly ignorant. Not all poor people make money off of illegal activities, and there are actually poor children making stellar grades so they can go to college and hopefully take your job. Honestly racism is the most idiotic concept man adopted. What’s really your reason for hating one another just because of their race?

Posted by: Aubrielle | December 5, 2011, 7:38 pm 7:38 pm

As a Black woman living in Detroit, Michigan, I say bravo, Newt. SOMEBODY needed to say it and I don’t care what color he is. HE IS SPEAKING THE TRUTH. Bill Cosby tried to say something about it and was ignored – BY US. But because a white guy said it, its a problem. WTH? No not all Black people in inner cities do illegal activities, of course that’s foolish to think, no one is saying that. However, you CANNOT DENY THE NUMBERS OF US THAT DO IN THE INNER CITY AND MOST OF THEM ARE OUR CHILDREN WHO HAVE NO WORK ETHIC. And yes, we have down played menial jobs to kids. I worked TWO fast food jobs as a teen and it helped my work ethic tremendously. But as I’ve gotten older, I have met people who are joining the work force for the first time at 25!! I DON’T CARE WHERE THE TRUTH COMES FROM AS LONG AS ITS HEARD. Newt 2012. Let’s get it.

Posted by: LadyJones | December 5, 2011, 8:32 pm 8:32 pm

I don’t want to make this a racial issue. There is just the gigantic mental cognitive brick wall inside the minds of some. I example it this way… If anyone dare to say anything slightly insensitive about Jewish people, and life as they knew it was over. Wait for it! Through that in because I did not want the ignorant to miss the point. What occurred to Jewish people in Germany was genocide. It was just a little over 60 years ago. It was within the modern society, so there are video records. Some 6 million people were slaughtered. What if a Palestinian neighbor in the occupied territory wanted to put a swatzika in his yard because it defended his oppressed heritage… It would be offensive, and lauded. He probably would be arrested. Yet what happened to African Americans is asked to be forgotten. You know forgive and forget. It was just a 146 years ago. When Hitler was doing his madness slavery was barely 80 some years removed. In the circle of some scholars it is estimated that 20 million African slaves and their North and South American off-spring were killed in the slave trade, and another 10 to 20 thousand killed under Jim Crow. By the way 49 years ago there were still Jim Crow laws being enforced. The New Deal program of Roosevelt did not apply to African Americans and there were no big complaints until social programs did include African Americans. And to ad injury to insult… An African American can get a home in affluent neighborhood, and unlike Isarael a neighbor can post a swatzika flag, oops rebel flag in their yard without the sensitivity of knowing or not knowing that many educated and non-educated African Americans are aware of that 20 million lost lives. When you say something insensitive about African Americans fro here on… Just think what would I do if this was a Jewish person and I might be villafied.

Posted by: Ka-El | December 5, 2011, 9:01 pm 9:01 pm

I’m a black female who grew up in the inner city, got my first job at burger king my 12th grade year, went to college right after high school and earned a bachelor’s degree in accounting. I later obtained a certified public accountant’s license. I was raised by a single mother who taught me the importance of education and did not allow me to settle for less than my best. I feel I am successful because of the values that my mother instilled in me and I am not alone. The majority of my friends and family are productive members of society!! It greatly offends me to hear other blacks actually support what Newt is saying. It is the most ignorant thing I’ve ever heard. Providing kids with low level paying jobs does not teach them good work ethics. Parents do, the community does, mentors do. Kids want to do better when it has been instilled in them to do better. If it hasn’t then most likely they aren’t. It starts at home, so if the parent’s not working, then that’s who they need to push to work these jobs and make it mandatory if they are receiving assistance.

One thing I know for sure from working as a tax auditor is that discrimination does exist in the work place. Herman Cain like most lying politicians who don’t tell the whole truth or no truth for their own self serving interest was partially right, Racism is not holding back blacks in MAJOR corporations. He failed to mention that most employers are made up of small businesses. Of course a fortune 500 company is not going to have a problem hiring and promoting some minorities when they have a staff of 500. But go in to any small to midsize company in America and tell me how many minorities you see in the front office or back for that matter. I ended up working for the government, the only true equal opportunity employer after applying for a job at several private firms which were all 99% plus white. I have audited 100s of small businesses and have yet to see any minorities in administration and depending on the area sometimes none in the plant. So no we shouldn’t allow racism to hold us back or use it as an excuse, but please don’t be ignorant or forget where you came from. It angers me when I hear blacks spouting some of the same stereotypes that you hear from whites. It’s like anytime it’s anything negative or controversial it’s the norm and to be expected, but if it’s positive it’s an exception. Well if you know it’s not true for you or the majority of people you know why would you believe it is true for the majority, as if you are the exception. I know I’m not an exception. I know plenty of hardworking successful blacks and if Newt is implying that only blacks have weak work ethics and directing these jobs at young blacks as if whites who are more privileged don’t, I’ll pass!!! As blacks we need to get back to that village mentality and start volunteering in our community and schools to help the youth that are not getting help at home and push for the adults who are not working to get their acts together!!!!

Posted by: denise | December 5, 2011, 10:01 pm 10:01 pm

As an African American, I must say that I agree with some of the stuff that he said about instilling a work ethic in these kids at a young age. I am glad that he explained his comments, so many don’t and your left thinking ill of that person.

Posted by: Cincinnati513 | December 6, 2011, 12:40 am 12:40 am

Work ethic is a major problem that I see in young people today but it is by no meant isolated to one race or socioeconomic group. I say have all kids rotate through a job a school. I think the snotty little rich kids could learn a thing or two from an honest job.

Posted by: Ted WIlliams | December 6, 2011, 7:28 am 7:28 am

sooo… i’m a 17 year old african american female…. a senior in high school…. i work in the front office at my school.. no i do not get paid for it i’m only there because i’m practically finished school.. i only need 1 credit to graduate… i have a very good paying job for someone my age, and i live in a black community… Sir Gingrich, first of all i am not focused on being neither a prostitute, a drug dealer, nor a pimp. second, to let this comment come out of your mouth and think it’s okay… wrong move on your part… stick your head in a bowl of REALITY and you’ll realize that african americans are not the only ones who make the choice to be these things… whites, hispanics, and everyone in between have been prostitutes, drug dealers or pimps believe it or not… not everyone wants to be that way so they make the choice to work AT MCDONALDS because maybe they don’t want to work anywhere else, or maybe that was the only job available and somehow they need to make ends meet for themselves or their families… at least we’re trying, at least we can say we have done something. for those people who don’t have jobs now is because the frikin economy sucks. it’s not in the fault of the 43% unemployed african americans. next time, think before you speak, and i hope you recieve grace and mercy for your actions.

Posted by: Malia Pauls | December 7, 2011, 7:05 pm 7:05 pm

First of all, black youth unemployment was orchastrated about two decades ago when local city, county and state government cut out the summer youth program, which so-called ‘inner city youth’ too well advantage of, in addition to their parents teaching them about office automation. I know, because I work for local city government. Now, only internships and parks and recreation and certain city, county, and state departments offer youth summer employment. The truth of the matter is that there are no jobs for the youth. I am sick and tired of these politicians straight lying to the American general public. What is the purpose of debating President Obama on the subject when it is actually a state issue, not the federal government.

Posted by: Terri Ellen | December 7, 2011, 9:20 pm 9:20 pm

As a person whos come from a well to do background and has been given many privileges that others simply do not have I am deeply offended by Mr. Gingrich’s comments. To say that blacks should settle for flipping burgers instead of focusing on increasing graduation rates and the attainment of a college education Gingrich is just prolonging the plight of a black subclass. Why not focus on helping these kids better there lives instead of blaming them for their circumstances? Really what kid in their right mind wants to work? Its an individual problem not a societal one if a person needs money they should go find one, but to quantify this issue in terms of race is just obscene racist rhetoric. Gingrich has been criticized for having an unsound, undisciplined mind, having a flexible values when it comes to marriage, and is a career politician that’s been accused of stealing taxpayer money to boot! How dare this hypocriite speak on a work ethic, your a career poliitician Newt, by now youve forgotten what a hard day’s work is all about.

Posted by: Raul | December 14, 2011, 10:08 pm 10:08 pm

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