Republican Enthusiasm for 2012 Vote Drops in Gallup Poll
EmailThe enthusiasm gap between Republican and Democratic voters for the 2012 presidential election has narrowed sharply, according to a new Gallup survey.
Forty-nine percent of Republican and Republican-leaning voters said they were more enthusiastic about voting next year compared with previous elections – down from 58 percent in September.
Among Democrats and Democratic-leaning voters, 44 percent said the same – a number that has held steady from earlier this year — while 47 percent of Democrats said they were less enthusiastic about the coming presidential vote.
The findings mean Republicans may not enjoy as significant an advantage over Democrats as had been previously assumed when it comes to their supporters’ enthusiasm for getting to the polls.
“Gallup has found that voting enthusiasm generally relates to the eventual election outcome in midterm and presidential election years,” wrote Gallup’s Frank Newport in a blog post.
“In election years in which one party has a clear advantage on enthusiasm, that party tends to fare better in the midterm elections or win the presidential election,” he said.
But Newport said that it was too early to tell how strong the enthusiasm among each party’s base would be come November 2012.
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The republicans are in big trouble and don’t recognize it. They are really split into two parties, the regular republicans and the tea party republicans. The regular republicans have more in common with the democrats that they do with the tea party.
Ron Paul calls himself a republican but he’s really a libertarian and should run on his own. Now Jon Huntsman says he might form a third party.
Bachman, Santorum and Perry are the tea party choices, Romney and Gingrich are trying to play it both ways.
What a mess
Posted by: tmferretti | December 8, 2011, 3:19 pm 3:19 pm
No wonder, with the parade of idiots, morons, losers and clowns the GOP has been trotting around the country……………
Posted by: Searambler | December 8, 2011, 3:21 pm 3:21 pm
I have to admit, if I were a Republican, I would be pretty depressed too.
Posted by: Catherine | December 8, 2011, 3:41 pm 3:41 pm
When all you’ve got is Bozo the clown and a car full of other clowns – it dampens the enthusiasm a lot.
Posted by: demNme5 | December 8, 2011, 3:49 pm 3:49 pm
No wonder, with the parade of idiots, morons, losers and clowns the GOP has been trotting around the country……………
Posted by: Searambler
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Compared to the blithering idiot you have in the White House right now, the GOP is consisted of geniuses.
If I were a liberal I would be 5 times as unenthusiastic about the 2012 election
Posted by: marco | December 8, 2011, 3:57 pm 3:57 pm
When all you’ve got is Bozo the clown and a car full of other clowns – it dampens the enthusiasm a lot.
Posted by: demNme
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You must be describing the liberals
Posted by: ivan | December 8, 2011, 3:58 pm 3:58 pm
The republicans are in big trouble and don’t recognize it…
Posted by: tmferretti
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Maybe you haven’t seen the latest poll numbers on how Obama would do in a head to head race with either Romney or Gingrich. In most key states the Republican is ahead.
If Republicans are so unenthusiastic about 2012 the liberals must be in the manic depressive stage.
Posted by: spike | December 8, 2011, 4:03 pm 4:03 pm
Don’t you believe it. Conservatives, Republicans and a great many Independents all agree that it’s ABO in November 2012; Anybody But Obama. Looks to me like Obama may lose all 57 states he campaigned in during 2008. The Second American Revolution is just taking a breather. The next Surge takes place in the Fall of 2012 as we sweep another despotic dictator from office.
Posted by: BubblerDad | December 8, 2011, 4:06 pm 4:06 pm
SPIKE
Do you honestly believe, despite the polls that are meningless, that any one of these republican presdiential candidates has a chance in hell. They have a problem, Americans asociate them with the “do nothings” in Congress. It’s their party and they can’t shake the brand. Their fighting a losing battle unless the republicans come up with some idea’s instead of depending on the President to to their job.
Posted by: tmferretti | December 8, 2011, 4:11 pm 4:11 pm
Marco, Ivan, Spike…geez, you think you’d try and disguise yourself a little better. One person posting as three. If all you’ve got is to talk about “libruls”, the GOP is indeed in sad shape. Actually, you’re not a GOP’er, but a teabagger…hugeeeeee difference. Other than those observations, I won’t respond to your actual comments because I need to debate with someone who has a brain and can do more than just recite Faux News and teabagger talking points. No wonder the President will get re-elected next year if bozo’s like you are indicative of the typical GOP voter.
Posted by: RyanC | December 8, 2011, 4:12 pm 4:12 pm
President Obama is a GOOD man. How do I know this??? For many reasons, but mostly because all the LOUSES on the right surely would have found something REAL to yell about over the past 3 years instead of all the BOGUS charges of him not being born an American or LIES about his religion or about him being a Muslim. He’s a good family man. Now, let’s look at the Newt – a serial cheater and divorcee with his political career that ended a few years back in DISGRACE. Next he goes on to make a hundred million $$$ as a LOL Historian, yeah we believe that lie too. How quickly the right forgets – especially when the REST of the field is so horrible except for Jon Huntsman. No Ivan, YOUR guys are truly the CLOWNS in politics these days.
Posted by: demNme5 | December 8, 2011, 4:16 pm 4:16 pm
“If Republicans are so unenthusiastic about 2012 the liberals must be in the manic depressive stage.”
Liberals like myself are quite happy. Obama 2012!
Posted by: 1 Percenter | December 8, 2011, 4:18 pm 4:18 pm
“President Obama is a GOOD man. How do I know this??? For many reasons, but mostly because all the LOUSES on the right surely would have found something REAL to yell about over the past 3 years instead of all the BOGUS charges of him not being born an American or LIES about his religion or about him being a Muslim. He’s a good family man. Now, let’s look at the Newt – a serial cheater and divorcee with his political career that ended a few years back in DISGRACE. Next he goes on to make a hundred million $$$ as a LOL Historian, yeah we believe that lie too. How quickly the right forgets – especially when the REST of the field is so horrible except for Jon Huntsman. No Ivan, YOUR guys are truly the CLOWNS in politics these days.”
Sounds like Newt was involved in some sort of suspicious financial activity. We may never know.
Posted by: John Corzine | December 8, 2011, 4:23 pm 4:23 pm
I just hope Obama can still win with his horrible record so far. And even though I love it, many are quite mad about his marxist tendencies.
Posted by: LexingtonLady | December 8, 2011, 4:27 pm 4:27 pm
Well after reading JOHN CORZINE’s post, I’m fairly sure that it’s not just the Republican CANDIDATES that are clowns but it’s also their backers too. What a sorry lot of fools!
Posted by: demNme5 | December 8, 2011, 4:31 pm 4:31 pm
I see that tmferretti (first post, no less, right on it again, lol) is still pecking out the same clunky nonsense and partisan bs on every blog he sees. Still ain’t workin’. Compared to Obama, both Romney and Gingrich are Einstein’s hitherto unknown brighter brothers. Obama is an utter failure, obviously. But at least he’s corrupt too. :)
Posted by: Jack Spratt | December 8, 2011, 4:32 pm 4:32 pm
I am voting for an independent this year. Not impressed with the republican and democrat parties. Time for real change. We need to let Republican and Democrats know that the American people are tired of their partisan crap. maybe if independents start getting more votes it will send a message.
Posted by: NoSpin1600 | December 8, 2011, 4:33 pm 4:33 pm
The presidency will stay with Obama, the Republicans know it, so the sole mission of the GOP is to kill health care. That means focusing on Congress. Their only hope is for the tea party to spawn more corporate pledgbot candidates. They must be the ones to walk the health care bill back out the door. Not because it won’t work, but because it WILL work and when it does, the GOP faces political exile for the next 50 years. It’s either that or compromise, which many moderate Republicans would do, but corporations don’t speak that language, so the real money sponsors those “conservative” pledgebot stooges and will go for broke on killing health care. Newt the lobbyist can help along those lines during an election year, even though he’s not electable. Mitt’s a dud on health care so he’s out. It’s all about the health care bill.
Posted by: sameagain | December 8, 2011, 4:36 pm 4:36 pm
You all need to face the facts. Obama is the best president since Jimmy Carter. Toss up between those two who was/is better. Both very great.
Posted by: Marsha Marsha | December 8, 2011, 4:40 pm 4:40 pm
“Well after reading JOHN CORZINE’s post, I’m fairly sure that it’s not just the Republican CANDIDATES that are clowns but it’s also their backers too. What a sorry lot of fools!”
If only Republicans and their supporters truly understood the complexity of the financial world. Sigh…
Posted by: 1 Percenter | December 8, 2011, 4:42 pm 4:42 pm
Demnme, better check your facts on Corzine and who,s pal he is. Hint, he came out of the Chicago gang.
Posted by: specialty57 | December 8, 2011, 4:42 pm 4:42 pm
As a lifelong Democrat and student of politics, I’m quite pleased with the President’s chances for re-election. Most Americans are reasonable and not extreme Limbaugh disciples who don’t think for themselves. They see Obama’s efforts and they see the GOP obstruction for the sake of painting the President as a failure. They heard Mitch McConnell’s vow to make defeating the President a priority. They know what Obama inherited and how much is not within his control. That and the current GOP candidate pool make Obama’s re-election a near certainty. Maybe this is the year that the GOP learns that hate and lies never make a good platform planks even when they try to disguise them as policy differences. Most Americans aren’t stupid and aren’t bigots.
Posted by: Mikeyboy | December 8, 2011, 4:43 pm 4:43 pm
Marsha Marsha — I see you have a sense of humor…. nice.
Posted by: NoSpin1600 | December 8, 2011, 4:44 pm 4:44 pm
Not even gonna comment on this. It speaks for itself.
Posted by: BikernAz12 | December 8, 2011, 4:46 pm 4:46 pm
That and the current GOP candidate pool make Obama’s re-election a near certainty. Maybe this is the year that the GOP learns that hate and lies never make a good platform planks even when they try to disguise them as policy differences. Most Americans aren’t stupid and aren’t bigots.
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So true about those Republicans. And Americans? They love solar power too! We’ll all have it soon!
Posted by: George Kaiser | December 8, 2011, 4:48 pm 4:48 pm
Sameagain, you have a lot of faith in Pelosi don’t you? Pass it now and read it latter. Like I told you when you posted this earlier, this bill is useless and will not help the ones paying now. It will only make us pay for somebody else’s through taxes, robing medicare, or higher insurance rates. IObamcare never did what it was intended to do, cut cost. 2400 pages of hidden taxes and bigger goverment.
Posted by: specialty57 | December 8, 2011, 4:51 pm 4:51 pm
Compared to the blithering idiot you have in the White House right now, the GOP is consisted of geniuses. Posted by: marco | December 8, 2011, 3:57 pm.
Well, my guess is that at least a couple of them can construct a coherent and grammatically correct sentence. Unlike their supporters…………..
Posted by: Searambler | December 8, 2011, 4:56 pm 4:56 pm
Funny Stuff.
I just checked this poll out and the results actually say that Democrats are far, far less enthusiastic about voting.
But maybe Republicans are down a bit.
I just kills me that we have about a dozen paid commenters on this site coming over from DailyKos, to insist that Obama mania is still high.
Well, his approval numbers are at below C level. That is Jimmy Carter levels and that is HISTORIC.
Newt is a genius and all you guys got is he is a mean nasty republican?
Meanwhile Axlerod is out to knee-cap anyone who stands is Mafia Boss’s Way.
Good Luck and enjoy the Kool-Aid. ABC and the rest of liberal media serve up.
Posted by: No ABC Liberal Kool-Aid Drinker | December 8, 2011, 5:03 pm 5:03 pm
Jack Spratt; I, for one, would like to read your basis for the “corrupt” allegation against Obama. Maybe you have a homemade definition for the word. Corrupt means deliberately dishonest for the sake of personal gain. You can not site ANY valid cases to support that claim. It’s just another nasty piece of rhetoric from right wing talkers like Hannity and Limbaugh that non-thinkers and Obama haters love to hear and repeat. Thanks for helping to drive descent GOP voters away from the fanatical fringes that deal mostly in lies and misinformation such as your “corrupt” comment. Why not revive the ‘birther’ story while you’re at it? PS- Lies and misinformation don’t really make good platform planks but they help to separate the honest party from the desparate and dishonest party.
Posted by: Mikeyboy | December 8, 2011, 5:04 pm 5:04 pm
“Hope and Change” Translation: We can all only hope (perhaps in vain) that we have some small change left to jingle in our pockets when Obama’s presidency is mercifully finished.
Posted by: BraveNewWorld | December 8, 2011, 5:04 pm 5:04 pm
specialty57.. I tried to answer earlier. It didn’t post. The health care bill is not fully implemented yet, so reports of its death are premature. Also, it does require legislative repairs owing to the compromises that were put in to get it passed, which was the first and foremost priority. It’s faults have been trumpeted as fatal, but of course that is just rhetoric. It will be made to work with help by the willing, which is why it is on the books, but that is also why the GOP wants to end it’s existence now so that is where you get the false information that it has failed already.
Posted by: sameagain | December 8, 2011, 5:10 pm 5:10 pm
But maybe Republicans are down a bit.
POSTED BY: NO ABC LIBERAL KOOL-AID DRINKER | DECEMBER 8, 2011, 5:03 PM 5:03 PM
“Forty-nine percent of Republican and Republican-leaning voters said they were more enthusiastic about voting next year compared with previous elections – down from 58 percent in September.”
That’s a nine percent drop friend. There is little for Republicans to be excited about in the current field of duds and adulterers.
Posted by: Drop | December 8, 2011, 5:13 pm 5:13 pm
Uh MikeyBoy, pretty long-winded for sheer obfuscatory BS. Obama is as corrupt as the day is long. OK, include the night also. In fact, he may be one the most corrupt presidents we’ve ever had. Sorry, not going to write you a dissertation on it. Google it, goofball. Perhaps start with “Solyndra”, and then maybe move on to “Obama and the Blagojevich case”. Where you go from there on the long and winding road of O’s corruption is your own choice. Have fun.
Posted by: Barb | December 8, 2011, 5:15 pm 5:15 pm
Thanks for helping to drive descent GOP voters away from the fanatical fringes that deal mostly in lies and misinformation such as your “corrupt” comment. Why not revive the ‘birther’ story while you’re at it?
POSTED BY: MIKEYBOY | DECEMBER 8, 2011, 5:04 PM 5:04 PM
That kind of conduct by the Republican right has only strengthened the Democratic party. Many previous Republicans are embarrassed by the idiocy of their party’s right wing approach.
Posted by: Jenny | December 8, 2011, 5:15 pm 5:15 pm
The Republicans just voted to RAISE taxes on the middle class in the senate. It’s time to abolish the Republican party!
Posted by: tstorm | December 8, 2011, 5:15 pm 5:15 pm
The nomination process has a lot of similarities with the sausage making process. After you see the process you don’t want to eat the sausage. Once the Republicans realize that their sausage is better than the rancid old sausage of the current Administration they will hold their noses and vote for some fresh sausage!
Posted by: Common _ Sense | December 8, 2011, 5:31 pm 5:31 pm
You do realize that neither the Republican nor the Democratic party wants people to vote. Unless they can be sure of how you vote. For all the crocodile tears about low voter turnout in this country. both paries would curl up in the fetal position if there were anythng close to a 100% voter tunrout in any election.
If you really want to stop the shenanigans in Poltics, care enough to vote.
Posted by: mike | December 8, 2011, 5:40 pm 5:40 pm
Obama should be compelled to testify under oath about Solyndra and about Fast & Furious. Then it’s on to impeachment, after he lies about his involvement in both. But if not, he’ll be beaten like a cheap drum come next November. Believe me, the Republicans, and many millions of Independents, will be plenty “enthusiastic” to replace the empty windbag and crooked “community organizer” known as Obama.
Posted by: RiskyBusiness | December 8, 2011, 5:42 pm 5:42 pm
Don’t “drink the kool-aid” people!! Obama has already lost!! —- Let conservatives and independents bicker and rationalize all they want… but when the candidate is chosen… and it’s just Obama versus “whomever”…. people will look at the last three disastrous years and KNOW we all made a mistake!! — NO WAY Obama wins a second term… He obviously can’t run on his record… 1) big-gov beauracracy with Obamacare and Dodd-Frank, 2) unemployment steady at 9%, 3) record deficits THREE years in a row, 4) US credit downgrade, 5) spending up 24% in three years, 6) Solyndra-Gate, 7) Fast&Furious-Gate….. yeah…. Obama is TOAST!!!
Posted by: TheLoyalOpposition | December 8, 2011, 5:46 pm 5:46 pm
Enthusiasm does wane when the distinction between the candidates narrows.
Newt has a history of ‘seeding’ the very Obama policies that many want stopped.
So, when there is less ‘hope’ for the ‘right’ kind of ‘change’ when selecting a candidate there is little sense of one’s vote making a difference.
Posted by: Wylie-Mike | December 8, 2011, 5:55 pm 5:55 pm
I’m not surprised that the Republican enthusiasm for the 2012 is starting to tank. Between the tea party candidates with their extreme ideas of trying to turn the clock back to the Wild West and candidates unfaithful to their wives, and one candidate that took $1.5 million from Freddie Mac to ‘consult’, it doesn’t look promising.
Posted by: Librarian53 | December 8, 2011, 5:55 pm 5:55 pm
POSTED BY: THELOYALOPPOSITION | DECEMBER 8, 2011, 5:46 PM 5:46 PM
Unemployment is at 8.6%. Please at least get your facts straight. By the way, the rest of your post is equally phony.
Posted by: Dave | December 8, 2011, 5:56 pm 5:56 pm
President Obama is the LEAST corrupt man I’ve seen in a long time. Republicans have this way of LYING about something and then repeating it so often that EVEN THEY begin to believe it’s true. Meanwhile, we have the absolute WORST field of Republican candidates I’ve seen in my lifetime. Instead of being ASHAMED you all keep hoping your losers might win next year. Well, you republicans can’t even speak about what good qualities YOUR guys have but rather you keep up with those LIES about our President that I mentioned earlier that have NO truth to them. This nation is STILL paying for the major screwups of gw and NONE of you will EVER admit that since you’ve NEVER once agreed that he ever did anything wrong. If this nation does get a Republican President and if he’s NOT Romney or Huntsman, then I don’t think our Nation will have much of a future. The right will continue and COMPLETE the ruinous crap from a few years back and we can all kiss the USA as we ONCE knew it – GOODBYE!!!
Posted by: demNme5 | December 8, 2011, 5:58 pm 5:58 pm
POSTED BY: DAVE | DECEMBER 8, 2011, 5:56 PM 5:56 PM
Facts and statistics are stubborn things.
Do you have what percentage of the unemployment decrease is due to people dropping off the count or coming to the end of their unemployment compensation?
It’s always easier to say that the fire is under control when it starts dying down because it is running out of things to burn.
Would you be able to come up with the statistics that reflect reality?
Posted by: Wylie-Mike | December 8, 2011, 6:01 pm 6:01 pm
DAVE 5:56 pm —- The TRUE unemployment figure is in actually in double-digits!!! — The ONLY way the Obama Administration can claim an unemployment rate of 8.6% is they changed the DENOMINATIOR!!! —– They just don’t count all those out of the work force for so long they have given up already!!!!! —– You KNOW that is true!! —- ALSO…. TOO FUNNY that you could look at all those “accomplishments” of the Obama Administration in my last post and all you can argue is 4/10′s of a percent of the unemployment figure … LOL!!! — Shows how sad this Administration is!!!!
Posted by: TheLoyalOpposition | December 8, 2011, 6:15 pm 6:15 pm
“President Obama is the LEAST corrupt man I’ve seen in a long time.”
POSTED BY: DEMNME5
Apparently, you have severely misspelled the word “MOST”. Or more likely the extent of your delusion is a sad sight for all to behold. Obama is a total phony and hypocrite in almost every aspect of his public life and presidency. Anyway, I confess that I am one of those Independents who voted for this POS (Obama) last time, but I wouldn’t even remotely consider doing so again. Fool me once, your bad. Fool me twice, my bad. I will be very enthusiastic to vote his crooked butt out of office.
Posted by: Marcus | December 8, 2011, 6:26 pm 6:26 pm
I know I’m excited to vote for Obama, I can’t wait till next year when we really get down to the nitty gritty and when the american people really start paying attention to what the 2 parties
really stand for. The republicans have done nothing but obstruct and the american people I believe
are tired of their do nothing approach to eveything Obama puts on the table. Enough is enough.
Obama 2012
Posted by: Brenda | December 8, 2011, 6:49 pm 6:49 pm
“do nothing approach to eveything Obama puts on the table.”
POSTED BY: BRENDA
All he puts on the table is more massive spending for nearly no benefit at all. He is usually going in the opposite direction of sensible. Thank God they are not agreeing to the few goofball proposals he eventually comes up with, when he’s in the mood for another teleprompted, sound-byte speech. Like you said, “Enough is enough”. Obama must go, clearly. Most honest adults see this.
Posted by: Janet M | December 8, 2011, 7:00 pm 7:00 pm
POSTED BY: THELOYALOPPOSITION | DECEMBER 8, 2011, 6:15 PM 6:15 PM
The unemployment rate is established by the Bureau of Labor Statistics. It doesn’t matter which party holds Congress, nor which party has the Presidency. The same methods of calculating the unemployment rate are used across the board.
The unemployment rate as established by the Bureau of Labor Statistics is 8.6%. Make up whatever figures you want, use other figures. The 8.6% is established by the same methods applied to President Bush.
Sorry it doesn’t suit your bias.
Posted by: Dave | December 8, 2011, 7:14 pm 7:14 pm
I notice the comments on here all praising Obama. Don’t some of you have a problem with the failed stimulus that lead to 5 trillion dollars of debt Obama compiled in his first three years. What about the taxpayer money wasted on green energy companies that went bankrupt.
He promised “Hope and change” what we got was class warfare and crony capitalism.
Posted by: Tim | December 8, 2011, 7:15 pm 7:15 pm
POSTED BY: JANET M | DECEMBER 8, 2011, 7:00 PM 7:00 PM
Obama is not guilty of massive spending increases. He is guilty of having to deal with massive deficits and debt resulting from the massive economic collapse on George W. Bush’s Republican watch.
Posted by: John | December 8, 2011, 7:17 pm 7:17 pm
He promised “Hope and change” what we got was class warfare and crony capitalism.
POSTED BY: TIM | DECEMBER 8, 2011, 7:15 PM 7:15 PM
Bullcrap. The only ‘class warfare’ we got was the top 10% getting richer and richer over the last decade, while the rest of us lost ground.
Posted by: Johnny | December 8, 2011, 7:22 pm 7:22 pm
Ron Paul’s campaign has the most enthusiasm, without a doubt.
Posted by: Alex | December 8, 2011, 7:34 pm 7:34 pm
Marxist, blithering idiot, incompetent…..ya da, ya da, ya da. These are comments meant to deflect from the fact that thus far the Repubs are destined to win in their wish to present an ideological pure candidate but are doomed to fail in the general election.
Posted by: Atilathehun101 | December 8, 2011, 8:33 pm 8:33 pm
7:22 post is a legitimate reply to almost ANY conservative criticizing or critiquing ANYTHING. A bigger bunch of “know-nothings ” the world has likely never seen , they are the problem in America They talk a lot about cutting this or that , but talk about cutting VA benefits and you’ll hear the most whining ( from the supposed “toughest” men ) you’ve ever heard . What “govt benefits” did the soldiers have at Bunker Hill ? Wah wah wah , cry me a river , those real patriots had to provide their own gear and weaponry usually too , now Uncle Sam provides the best gear the Iranians can hijack…
Posted by: not-a-zombified(r) | December 8, 2011, 8:41 pm 8:41 pm
For the liberal Left, Freddie Mac was blameless and pure as the driven snow…..until they found out Newt Ginrich was a paid consultant.
Posted by: newcountryman | December 8, 2011, 9:04 pm 9:04 pm
For the liberal Left, Freddie Mac was blameless and pure as the driven snow…..until they found out Newt Ginrich was a paid consultant.
POSTED BY: NEWCOUNTRYMAN | DECEMBER 8, 2011, 9:04 PM 9:04 PM
Wrong again.
2004: Under President Bush, the U.S. Department of Housing and Urban Development announces that it will require Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, also known as the Government-Sponsored Enterprises (GSEs) “to increase their purchase of mortgages for low- and moderate-income families and underserved communities.” In order to meet these new requirements, the GSEs begin purchasing mortgage-backed securities made up of subprime loans.
Posted by: Barney | December 8, 2011, 9:21 pm 9:21 pm
It’s unsurprising that the enthusiasm gap is narrowing. The field of Republican candidates is extremely uninspired and uninspiring. Republican voters have floundered around, rallying around the flavor of the month each month. Now it’s the corrupt and arrogant Newt Gingrich, who shouldn’t stand a chance, but the options are so bad, he appears to stand a chance now… until, at least, the true scrutiny begins and the public is reminded why they couldn’t stand him. He could be another flavor of the month, but given ’08, its clear Republicans like erratic and untrustworthy career politicians, whatever they may have said when they were trying to rebrand themselves as independent tea party conservatives.
Newcountryman, it’s not the liberal left that has a problem with Newt Gingrich taking $1.6 million as a consultant to Freddie Mac, the mortgage giant that conservatives — and according to Gingrich, Gingrich himself — blame for the housing crisis, beyond the monumental hypocrisy and the craven willingness to sell oneself. It’s real conservatives. Not the phonies who are now in Newt’s corner but people who actually believe and understand conservative ideology. Ask Ron Paul.
Posted by: Kimberly | December 8, 2011, 9:25 pm 9:25 pm
“Newcountryman, it’s not the liberal left that has a problem with Newt Gingrich taking $1.6 million as a consultant to Freddie Mac, the mortgage giant that conservatives — and according to Gingrich, Gingrich himself — blame for the housing crisis, beyond the monumental hypocrisy and the craven willingness to sell oneself. It’s real conservatives.”
It’s not like any of those traits are entry barriers to the Democrat party.
Cite one example of Democrats calling out another Democrat for his/her role in the subprime mortgage meltdown. For that matter cite anybody in Washington calling out anybody else in Washington. Thieves and weasels run rampant.
Posted by: foggy | December 8, 2011, 10:31 pm 10:31 pm
The Democrats will only get the Hispanics and Blacks to vote for them. A real white religious American won’t vote Democrat!
Posted by: blind spot | December 8, 2011, 10:41 pm 10:41 pm
A real white religious American won’t vote Democrat!
POSTED BY: BLIND SPOT | DECEMBER 8, 2011, 10:41 PM 10:41 PM
Yes, you do have a blind spot.
Posted by: Dave | December 9, 2011, 2:06 am 2:06 am
Hooray!
Now make sure that you get your neighbors registered to vote and that you follow the voter ID laws in your state. A lot of people, particularly in states that have Republican controlled legislatures, will be shocked in 2012, to discover that their right to vote has been “changed” by the Republicans in their state (Also, take care with the voter registration laws…. In Ohio, a bunch of people in a heavily Democratic precinct were registered to vote, but the people doing the registrations used a slight lighter bond weight paper, and then the Secretary of State negated them… so make sure you register with a trustworthy organization).
Make sure that your neighbors get a state issued ID and have it with them when they go to vote. (I know it is crazy that the REPUBLICANS of all people are pushing the idea that citizens need to carry papers on them…. but they want to win… so don’t give them any excuse to take away your right to vote!).
Posted by: blip | December 9, 2011, 4:34 am 4:34 am
“Obama is not guilty of massive spending increases.”
POSTED BY: JOHN
Exhibit one, directly above, an outright, blatant lie.
“He promised “Hope and change” what we got was class warfare and crony capitalism.”
POSTED BY: JOHNNY
Exhibit two, directly above, the clear truth.
This is why Obama will lose — he and his camp just keep on lying and spinning, because it’s mostly all they’ve got left. Between hard-core partisans of either side that wouldn’t matter so much, but Obama has lost a huge amount of “independents” that he had in that first election, and he won’t be getting very many of them back again. He may even lose more of them as time, and more defensive lying, goes on. There’s nothing real and true to bring them back. Just more spin and lies and lame rationalizations for his failures.
“It’s unsurprising that the enthusiasm gap is narrowing.”
POSTED BY: KIMBERLY
Maybe, and maybe not. But even if temporarily true right now while the primary is going on, still almost a year away from the election, that gap would need to narrow hugely, and stay narrowed, for Obama to stand a real chance. The more important factor will be those “independents”, and how “enthusiastic” they will be to vote Obama out of office. On that count, it looks very bad for Obama, Mr. Teleprompter who gets nothing constructive done.
Posted by: Michael | December 9, 2011, 10:17 am 10:17 am
No, Michael. If the enthusiasm gap stays as is, Obama will most likely win– there are more registered dems than republicans, though they will have to make sure the Republicans in their states haven’t changed the laws to skew the results of the presidential election. There’s a lot of sneaky stuff going down. If the enthusiasm gap narrows further thanks to the nomination of Newt– and that will be the ultimate result of his nomination or Mitt’s because neither inspire conservatives, libertarians and the base– Obama will win. Do not underestimate how negatively viewed the GOP really is by most Americans.
Independents won’t vote for Newt Gingrich. He is widely known as erratic and he can’t manage… anything! Managerial disaster is the term being bandied about by those who have had to bear the burden of working under his management.
Scrutiny will bear that out.
The GOP is a failed party that has had to resort to has-beens, kooks and philanderers because it requires a certain kind of blind eye to run as a Republican nowadays.
Foggy, so you agree that it is real conservatives that have a problem with Gingrich taking $1.6 million as a consultant to Freddie Mac, the mortgage giant that conservatives — and according to Gingrich, Gingrich himself — blame for the housing crisis. Republicans that claim to be conservatives but really aren’t don’t mind the monumental hypocrisy and the craven willingness to sell oneself.
According to Quinnipiac, voters say 47 – 41 percent that Obama is better on the economy than Gingrich, and that is before his truly erratic management style has been widely scrutinized. The economy is issue #1. Then there’s foreign policy, where Newt is viewed as erratic and has floundered around wildly on Libya, Iraq,etc. He can’t be trusted to keep anyone safe, not even himself. He only seems semi-competent to Republicans who have watched the debates because the rest of the flavors of the month in the GOP field were so glaringly awful on foreign policy.
Just sayin.
Posted by: Kimberly | December 9, 2011, 10:51 am 10:51 am
“No, Michael. If the enthusiasm gap stays as is, Obama will most likely win– there are more registered dems than republicans…”
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No, Kimberly. If the gap “stays as is,” (the measurement of which is dicey to say the least), Obama would almost certainly lose. It seems you always have your talking points ready, but fail to exercise elementary logic. Having more “registered dems than republicans” matters very little actually, since that’s almost always been true anyway. What matters is how many actually do show up to vote, and how many ” registered dems” shift away from Obama, even if they do show up to vote. So you mistakenly assume “registered dems” will show up to vote, AND that they will all vote for Obama — nearly a year from now, lol. But even more importantly by far is what I already correctly pointed out: The more important factor will be those “independents”, and how “enthusiastic” they will be to vote Obama out of office. On that count, it looks very bad for Obama, Mr. Teleprompter who gets nothing constructive done.
Posted by: Michael | December 9, 2011, 11:17 am 11:17 am
Michael, nice…. no facts, just conjecture that contradict numbers. Ha! Way to fit the stereotype.
If nothing else, it made me chuckle. And if Newt gets the nod, there is no way it won’t dwindle further. No. way.
Posted by: Kimberly | December 9, 2011, 11:39 am 11:39 am
Another meaningless post from you, Kimberly. Par for the course. You have some dicey “numbers” almost a year away from the election, but you no way, no how have the smarts or logic to sensibly interpret the “numbers” or put them into a realistic context at all. But I know you just like compulsively posting for partisan-posting sake, so stumble on as you please. Here’s to chuckling at you.
Posted by: Michael | December 9, 2011, 12:50 pm 12:50 pm
Testy,testy,Michael.
LOL.
No wonder the GOP is so unpopular.
Posted by: Kimberly | December 9, 2011, 1:49 pm 1:49 pm
As any reputable psychologist will tell you, the first step in an unhealthy addiction is to admit you have a problem, and then to work on getting rid of it. That goes for the most unhealthy addiction to Obama and all of his failed policies, and it also goes for the addiction to posting inane drivel over and over again.
Posted by: Carol | December 10, 2011, 8:53 am 8:53 am