By Gary Langer

Dec 14, 2011 7:00am

Unfavorable Views of Obama Reach a High, Although Gingrich Trails in Popularity

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Unfavorable views of Barack Obama inched to their highest level of his presidency in the latest ABC News/Washington Post poll, but he’s still more popular than his front-running potential Republican challenger, Newt Gingrich.

And then there are views of the economy, which make both look almost good by comparison.

Forty-nine percent of Americans now express an unfavorable opinion of Obama, while 48 percent view him favorably — the first time his negative number has exceeded his positive one in this most basic measure of personal popularity. Obama’s favorable rating has plummeted by 31 points from his career high, 79 percent, days before he took office.

Gingrich is further underwater, with an unfavorable rating that’s essentially the same as Obama’s — 48 percent — but a favorable score that’s 13 points lower, 35 percent. (More are undecided about Gingrich than about the president.) Moreover, while just 23 percent see Obama “strongly” favorably, Gingrich’s core group of strong supporters is just half as large, 12 percent.

For all the hullaballoo since Gingrich surged in support for the GOP presidential nomination, this poll, produced for ABC News by Langer Research Associates, finds that his favorable rating in his own party is unchanged from late last month, at 60 percent, and he’s actually grown more unpopular among independents and Democrats alike. The net result: No change in his favorable score, but a 6-point rise in the number of Americans who see him unfavorably.

Indeed that includes a slight 10-point rise in his unfavorable rating from “very conservative” Americans, from 21 percent last month to 31 percent now.

ECONOMY — If an overall 48 percent or 49 percent unfavorable rating is unwelcome, consider the economy: A vast 74 percent of Americans express an unfavorable opinion of its direction, including 51 percent who rate it “strongly” unfavorably. That’s in part a political judgment, with dim views of the economy’s direction 19 points higher among Republicans (84 percent unfavorable) than among Democrats (65 percent).

In line with the political element to economic assessments, Obama is a vast 38 points more popular among people who have a favorable view of the economy’s direction vs. those who see it unfavorably. There’s an opposite effect for Gingrich, and a much less pronounced one; he’s 11 points more popular among people who take a negative view of the economy than a positive one.

GROUPS — Obama has 22-point higher favorability among Democrats, 82 percent, than does Gingrich among Republicans. (There is, after all, a popularity contest under way within the GOP).  Also, while Obama has an 8-point net negative score among independents (44-52 percent, favorable-unfavorable), Gingrich’s is more so, minus-15 points (33-48 percent).

Among ideological groups, similarly, Obama does better with liberals, 75-24 percent favorable-unfavorable, than does Gingrich with conservatives, 54-33 percent. (There are many more conservatives than liberals, giving Gingrich some pushback). Among moderates, Obama has a 12-point net positive score, compared with Gingrich’s 22-point net negative.

There are other differences among groups. Obama’s favorability rating is 10 points higher among women (who are more apt to be Democrats) than among men, 53 percent vs. 43 percent. He’s seen favorably by a vast 91 percent of African-Americans, vs. just 38 percent of whites.

Gingrich, for his part, does 8 points better with men than with women, and runs evenly with Obama in favorable ratings among whites, while scoring 82 points lower than Obama among African-Americans, and 45 points lower among nonwhites overall.

METHODOLOGY — This ABC News/Washington Post poll was conducted by landline and cell phone Dec. 7-11, 2011 among a random national sample of 1,012 adults. Results have a margin of sampling error of 3.5 points. The survey was produced for ABC News by Langer Research Associates of New York, N.Y., with sampling, data collection and tabulation by SSRS/Social Science Research Solutions of Media, Pa.

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Personally, I never could stomach the ego maniac.

Posted by: newcountryman | December 14, 2011, 7:15 am 7:15 am

Dah – Obama has been terrible as a President. He has increased debt, divided this country and destroyed the economy. Newt is no better. Romney is the only choice.

Posted by: Dave | December 14, 2011, 7:26 am 7:26 am

If ever there was a justification for a “None of the Above” line on a Presidential ballot, 2012 would have to be the year…….

Posted by: MNResident | December 14, 2011, 7:27 am 7:27 am

Deb, No, with me I belive it all started with those Greek columns. Or maybe it was the columns of light from the heavens.

Posted by: newcountryman | December 14, 2011, 7:27 am 7:27 am

I can’t stomach his white half as well.

Posted by: newcountryman | December 14, 2011, 7:29 am 7:29 am

Can’t stomach incompetence and corruption, but keep focusing on skin color Deb – cuz that’s what REALLY matters…….

Posted by: Logicsgood5 | December 14, 2011, 7:30 am 7:30 am

I wonder if the “historian” knows anything at all about my namesake. If he does, he didn’t learn anything from it.

Posted by: john locke | December 14, 2011, 7:31 am 7:31 am

I’m expecting Obama’s rating to drop fast now. There was a Bill yesterday he wanted the wording changed to give him absolute power to detain anyone for any reason. I still don’t get how someone that is supposed to be so in tune with the Constitution would want such power and disregard the Constitution like that. Then there is the dnc convention next summer and his support of keeping ows away from him. A very popular response is to turn Charlotte into Chicago of ’68.

Posted by: kris | December 14, 2011, 7:33 am 7:33 am

WOW! Pulling the race card quite early aren’t you? Obama has not done as he said he would. I especially laughed at him the other night when he said he saved the auto industry. Of course he didn’t mention the $15 billion we lost in that venture of our tax payer dollars. He also said he avoided a great depression and is lowering health care cost for all. Very inexperienced and not a leader at all.

Posted by: commonsenseparty | December 14, 2011, 7:33 am 7:33 am

“”"”"”Obama has been terrible as a President. He has increased debt, divided this country and destroyed the economy. Newt is no better. “”"”"

Posted by: Dave

Actually, Newts record is better than Obama’s when it comes to debt and the economy. As Speaker, he pushed Clinton and came closer to balancing a budget than any Speaker in history.

Posted by: commonsenseparty | December 14, 2011, 7:38 am 7:38 am

obama has done too much damage to the country

Posted by: shigeru | December 14, 2011, 7:45 am 7:45 am

Thank you Deb. Couldn’t have been said better. What they are doing to erode the freedom of all American while they hide behind President Obama’s administration is obvious. What has been shown is how meaningles the Office of the President really is. If you are white, in the click it has worked. They let you be commander in chief. They knew that the only change that would occur under President Obama’s administration is they use his black face to discredit him while they show you who really runs things. Rich white mentality, not necessary white faces however. Do not get it mixed up. Some of these screwed up elitists are not white. The key word is rich.The separation of the classes transends the race issue. While we as americans sit on our judgemental butts, pointing fingers, the true power, not the presidency, work to erode the true definition of equality as we envision it and create a world of surveillanced ,taxed sheep subject to their rule. And like i said, that is hardly the office of president.

Posted by: Tspoon | December 14, 2011, 7:46 am 7:46 am

I didn’t vote for Obama so I don’t have that baggage but, I won’t vote for a person like Gingrich that has more baggage than the Titanic can carry. Hey GOP, get your head out of your butt because people just won’t vote for Gingrich in a general election, GET IT !!!

Posted by: Indymind | December 14, 2011, 7:50 am 7:50 am

I strongly supported Obama and have at times been very disappointed that he didnt fight harder to get more of what he told the people he was going to try to achieve. Just remember, because it has been said time and time again doesn~t make it any less true, the man inherited economic and war problems bigger than any president except POSSIBLY FDR. He also inherited a senate with enough conservative democrats and a Senate majority leader who refused to lift a finger to prevent filabusters and pocket vetos up the gazoo that forced him to accept deals on stimulus and health care that were far different from what he actually wanted. Of course, my first point was that he wasnt assertive enough and was too warm and cuddly with the republicans who made no bones about wanting to see him fail at any price. One thing is for certain, he gets little credit for his big achievements. Excuse me, but he DID avenge 911 with HIS military policy changes, as well as actually greatly disable Al Queda. Nobody even mentions it. If it were McPalin, wed have 200k troops in Iraq by now and would probably be defending Kabul itself in Afghanistan. If this country actually chooses Gingrich over him, we truly are a sick nation.

Posted by: Ken | December 14, 2011, 7:53 am 7:53 am

Deb, we cant stomach his incompetence, his destruction of this country and his dividing of the nation. He is by far the worst and most destructive president in our history. This is coming from a black man and your race baiting is played out.

Posted by: James | December 14, 2011, 7:54 am 7:54 am

“”"”"Excuse me, but he DID avenge 911 with HIS military policy changes, as well as actually greatly disable Al Queda. “”"”"”

Posted by: Ken

What military policy changes were those? Al Qaeda was greatly disabled before Obama even entered office. So from what we can take from your ost is if something good happens, Obama gets the credit, anything bad and it’s the GOP fault right? Nothing like partisan blather on your part.

Posted by: commonsenseparty | December 14, 2011, 8:01 am 8:01 am

I think Deb (7:22 AM) doesn’t like Gingrich because he’s a fat white man.

Posted by: newcountryman | December 14, 2011, 8:01 am 8:01 am

Deb, You obviously are not a very good bridge player. You need to save that trump card for later in the discussion when no one knows you have it and you get to take the trick.

Posted by: newcountryman | December 14, 2011, 8:10 am 8:10 am

How dare anyone accuse us of being racist. Shame on you! I was with rock the vote and we registered and got thousands upon thousands of blacks to the polls in ’08. The fact is there are literally millions of us who will not be voting Obama this time around. That is a fact. We are trying to figure out who to write in and waiting to see who the third party candidate is. Do NOT accuse me of being a racist! Anyone that does is causing unnecessary division that we don’t need.

Posted by: jules | December 14, 2011, 8:14 am 8:14 am

NEWCOUNTRYMAN | DECEMBER 14, 2011, 8:10 AM ….I don’t like him (as a candidate) because he believes in the redistribution of wealth, his fav presidents are Teddy R, W Wilson, and FDR – all progressive presidents, he has flip-flopped on the big issues, and who can say he won’t flip flop on his promise to get rid of Obamacare. Yes, he’s a good talker; but so was (and is) presidentr Obama!

Posted by: deanbob | December 14, 2011, 8:19 am 8:19 am

Democrats know they are stuck with Obama as their candidate so they might as well favor him. Republicans and Independents still have choices. see how those numbers change once the primaries are over.

Posted by: BCT | December 14, 2011, 8:19 am 8:19 am

Wow Angela! (8:03 AM); Could you get anymore OBVIOUS?

Posted by: newcountryman | December 14, 2011, 8:20 am 8:20 am

Obama has absolutely no chance, they even had yahoo delete their comments because all of them were explaining why obama is the worst president in history.

Posted by: Citizen | December 14, 2011, 8:21 am 8:21 am

I sure am hoping all this improves within the next year, or Obama may lose even worse than I fear. He just needs 4 more years to make his great policies take full effect and become more succcesses.

Posted by: GrannyNosBest | December 14, 2011, 8:22 am 8:22 am

jules | December 14, 2011, 8:14 am —- Nobody accused anyone of racism, just simply playing the race card. There is a difference. bama has caused the division and you are correct, we do not need more.

Posted by: commonsenseparty | December 14, 2011, 8:23 am 8:23 am

Old battle cry – “America’s too racist to elect a black President.” Can’t use that anymore… New battle cry – “America’s too racist to reelect a black President.” – - – Sad when that’s all they.ve got.

Posted by: Logicsgood5 | December 14, 2011, 8:24 am 8:24 am

Newsflash — Obama sucks. More and more folks are gradually wising up to this glaringly obvious fact. Obama’s cheap shell game is going to end by next year.

Posted by: Mack | December 14, 2011, 8:26 am 8:26 am

49% against vs 48% for? That’s not much of a difference. Besides, a lot of people mistakenly blame Obama for the actions and responsibilities that belong to Congress. The worst thing about Obama is his lack of strength in dealing with Congress. Not even 6 members of Congress can agree on anything. Clearly Obama needs to show some strong leadership and begin getting tough on them.

Posted by: Wayne | December 14, 2011, 8:26 am 8:26 am

High time we correct this, the biggest mistake in Presidential history.

Posted by: ro | December 14, 2011, 8:26 am 8:26 am

OK Mr President, Dems in the Senate its time to put up or shut up. You have a bill that continues the payroll tax cut that Obama demanded and approves the Keystone pipeline deal that CREATES jobs (more than the 20,000 mentioned in the MSM). The pipeline route has been changed to satisfy the residents in Nebraska (its no long going over the aquifer).

Posted by: deanbob | December 14, 2011, 8:27 am 8:27 am

I just hope Obama can get re-elected, even despite his terrible record so far. His big spending, big government policies just need more time to work.
Just sayin’, lol.

Posted by: Kimberly | December 14, 2011, 8:29 am 8:29 am

Wayne | December 14, 2011, 8:26 am —- Obama’s first 2 years he had the House and Senate and did nothing. His own party couldn’t even agree on Obamacare without back room shady deals. Staunch Democrats either don’t see that or don’t want to see it. You guys are a riot. “”"”"Clearly Obama needs to show some strong leadership and begin getting tough on them”"”"‘. If he hasn’t shown it in 3 years, that should tell you something.

Posted by: commonsenseparty | December 14, 2011, 8:31 am 8:31 am

Deanbob (8:19 AM); I don’t want Gingrich because he’s a long time Washington insider. He’d be too more inclined to act on behalf of the special interests instead of the best interests of the country. It’s that simple for me. We need some new blood. The best I see is Paul (IMHO). Too bad he doesn’t have a big square presidential jaw. But he does refrain from holding his head and chin high to compensate for it.

Posted by: newcountryman | December 14, 2011, 8:33 am 8:33 am

“”"”His big spending, big government policies just need more time to work.”"”"”

Posted by: Kimberly

Wow! Obama himself said if the economy hasn’t recovered withiing 3 years, he shouldn’t be re-elected. His words not mine. “”Big spending and big government policies”"? Those are not policies, they are actions that will bring us down.

Posted by: commonsenseparty | December 14, 2011, 8:35 am 8:35 am

How could Obama’s numbers still decline even after he “explained” it all in several long and recent speeches? Puzzling. LOL, times about 500.

Posted by: Jimmie | December 14, 2011, 8:37 am 8:37 am

Remember the McConnell manifesto. Get Obama and his health care bill out. It’s not easy when the richest, most powerful people in the world have organized themselves and are working overtime to get rid of you. People naturally believe that what is good for the powerful is good for them. If that were true, we would not have had the meltdown. Nevertheless, they have taken their toll in the arena of public opinion. Of course that can change. Just ask Newt Gingrich. lol It’s all about destroying the health care bill. The nation’s health care lobbyists are arrayed against it. Not because it won’t work, but because it will.

Posted by: sameagain | December 14, 2011, 8:38 am 8:38 am

He has the senate block or veto’s the Payroll tax holiday extension that the house passed he won’t be able to recover politically.

Posted by: hkdakota | December 14, 2011, 8:38 am 8:38 am

Where did you take the poll??? The Southern neotrds wouldn’t like Obama if he were GOD incarnate!!!!!!

Posted by: ablots | December 14, 2011, 8:39 am 8:39 am

If the republican candidate is selected from the current field, President Obama wins by a landslide. He’s done everything except send a company of Marines into the House to get the tea party republicans off their as–es. Their defeat the President at all costs tactics have backfired, the American people recognize their motives and will make them pay next November.

If the republicans insist on this poison pill pipeline add on, he should veto the tax extension bill and let the republicans take the fall.

Posted by: tmferretti | December 14, 2011, 8:40 am 8:40 am

He’s simply been one of our three worst presidents!

Posted by: GCG | December 14, 2011, 8:41 am 8:41 am

TMFERRETTI, more silly nonsensical spin from you, as usual. It isn’t working. More and more people see that Obama is a hollow and corrupt phony. Sorry. More cowbell.

Posted by: Jimmie | December 14, 2011, 8:45 am 8:45 am

I’m going with the best choice, Obama 2012.

Posted by: Jerry Thursby | December 14, 2011, 8:48 am 8:48 am

“”"”"”"”If the republicans insist on this poison pill pipeline add on, he should veto the tax extension bill and let the republicans take the fall.”"”"”"

Posted by: tmferretti

The 3 year study is complete and the pipeline will be built. If Obama doesn’t sign the bill, it only shows he is not working across the aisle. Hmm, “”poison pill pipeline”" sounds like you are parroting a certain Democrat I heard on the news that claimed over 8000 people will die if we build this pipeline. Another huge lie that you are buying into. Please tell us WHY Obama is trying to stop the pipeline until 2013???

Posted by: commonsenseparty | December 14, 2011, 8:51 am 8:51 am

I am just tired of the excuses. “It was bad, it was the worst since the depression, we are in this shape because of fat cats, the republicans drove the economy into a ditch, the rich don’t pay theor fair share”. Never mind that it is and has been Government policy in place for years that caused the mess and more Government policy that is and has made it worse.

The President needs to simply clean house of the riff raff he selected as advisors, get some real men and women who actually have worked outside of Government and he could do well.

Posted by: david | December 14, 2011, 8:52 am 8:52 am

It is clear to me that Obama is the best choice for President of the United States!

Posted by: JPT | December 14, 2011, 8:52 am 8:52 am

Wow JPT, you have been smoking what you should have been mowing.

Posted by: Ed Gruberman | December 14, 2011, 8:59 am 8:59 am

More and more people see that Obama is a hollow and corrupt phony.
Posted by: Jimmie | December 14, 2011, 8:45 am.

Please provide proof of his so-called corruption. And his ‘hollowness’. His numbers drop because people are angry that Congress does nothing. Congress (and by that I mean the House) will do whatever they can to destroy Obama. An awful lot of the people in this country are just too STUPID to understand that a president, by himself, can’t do much unless Congress does ITS job. And the approval rating for Congress today is what, 8%? Republicans have deliberately sunk this country in order to damage Obama. Their plan is working. So please, let’s see your proof of corruption on Obama’s part. And by proof, I DON’T mean unfounded allegations from Rush or Beck or Hannity or Coulter or Breitbart or Rove or any of the morning morons on FOX. I mean concrete, provable, documented proof……

Posted by: Searambler | December 14, 2011, 9:01 am 9:01 am

Why is this surprising. He is a doing a rotten job.

Posted by: real_hope_and_change | December 14, 2011, 9:02 am 9:02 am

Excellint post, rambler from the sea. My thoughts excatly. But be careful what you ask for, since there are many instances of Obama’s “corruption and hollowness”, even though we both know he is still great. And congrats on your new Hoveround, and the other good medical news you received. Best regards.

Posted by: GRANNYNOSBEST | December 14, 2011, 9:07 am 9:07 am

Searambler | December 14, 2011, 9:01 am —- We will simply have to wait for the investigations on Fast and Furious and Solyndra. The illegal attack on Libya.

Posted by: commonsenseparty | December 14, 2011, 9:09 am 9:09 am

Obama should definitely veto the pipeline. It will be clear to the voting public why their taxes went up, even when Republicans hold up their silly signs saying that it was Obama’s fault. It’s a goofball political trick that only highlights their support of lobbyists and the utter disregard that they have for the middle class, beyond tricking votes out of them while laughing up their sleeves.

Posted by: sameagain | December 14, 2011, 9:11 am 9:11 am

Hope and Change. Translation: We can all only hope we have some small change left to jingle in our pockets when Obama’s miserable term is mercifully finished.

Posted by: BraveNewWorld | December 14, 2011, 9:13 am 9:13 am

Searambler | December 14, 2011—-Hollowness? Obama, “”there is no place for lobbyists or special interests in my administration”", he has 12 that influence policy and another 28 in other positions. “No more business as usual in DC”, have you seen anything different? Transparency in government, didn’t happen, especially with Obamacare when he had all branches of government. Would you like me to continue? Obama, “if the economy has not recovered within 3 years, I do not deserve a 2nd term”, that speaks for itself.

Posted by: commonsenseparty | December 14, 2011, 9:13 am 9:13 am

Its not just Obama.

The American people disapprove of ALL politicians right now. They’re more interested in taking corporate donations and fundraising than helping our nation along.

Its not even a party issue, its a government is bought issue.

Get money out of elections.

Posted by: Mike HeXt | December 14, 2011, 9:15 am 9:15 am

Tmferretti said (8:40 AM); “He’s done everything except send a company of Marines into the House to get the tea party republicans off their as–es.” Humm, even the Roman Empire prohibited troops within the city walls. See how far we’ve come? Now Tmferretti wants to raise the level of desperation.

Posted by: newcountryman | December 14, 2011, 9:15 am 9:15 am

When all you do is push your political talking points and really accomplish jack squattt I’m surprised he has any supporters left. Talk is cheap…

Posted by: jack squattt | December 14, 2011, 9:15 am 9:15 am

“”"”"”Obama should definitely veto the pipeline. “”"”"”

Posted by: sameagain

Can you explain why?

Posted by: commonsenseparty | December 14, 2011, 9:15 am 9:15 am

Please tell us WHY Obama is trying to stop the pipeline until 2013???
Posted by: commonsenseparty | December 14, 2011, 8:51 am.

Why do you think? Personally, I believe it’s because there are still some safety questions that need to be addressed. Like why TransCanada wants to use lower grade steel for the pipeline, or what happens if this dirty tar sands oil spills into the aquifer that supplies drinking water for half a dozen states. The U.S. Pipeline Safety Administration has not yet conducted an in depth analysis of the safety of diluted bitumen (raw tar sands), despite unique safety concerns posed by its more corrosive properties. TransCanada predicted that the Keystone I pipeline already in operation would see one spill in 7 years. In fact, there have been 12 spills in 1 year. The company was ordered to dig up 10 sections of pipe after government-ordered tests indicated that defective steel may have been used. Keystone XL will use steel from the same Indian manufacturer. TransCanada said in their paperwork filing in 2008 that they would create between 3500 and 4200 jobs. (Not the tens of thousands being reported by Republicans). And there was no guarantee those jobs would go to US workers. They already operate Keystone 1 in Sorth Dakota. Only 11% of the workers they hired were from South Dakota. This pipeline will not lower the price of gasoline in America one cent. Yeah, they said it would generate $5 billion in taxes – over the next ONE HUNDRED YEARS, and split up among seven states. Big whoop. If this deal finally goes through then TransCanada wins, and Big Oil wins. The USA? Not really. Ask yourself this: why doesn’t TransCanada build a pipeline through Canada to their own refineries? Canada has over a dozen oil refineries, from east to west. WHY must they go through our heartland and all the way to the Gulf for this project? What is it about this project that THEY don’t like, to the point where they want to go outside their own country to make it happen?

And why the hell are the Republicans trying to attach it to the payroll holiday extension bill? It has nothing to do with that bill at all. They KNOW it doesn’t, and they KNOW that Obama isn’t willing to sign the pipeline deal just yet. So they play POLITICS, and get to kill off a tax break for 160 million American workers while still claiming that they won’t raise taxes. Even though they KNOW that that’s what will happen. The Republican criminals in Congress need to go. ASAP………..

Posted by: Searambler | December 14, 2011, 9:21 am 9:21 am

commonsenseparty | December 14, 2011, 9:09 am post ———- In other words, you have nothing. Just as I figured.

Posted by: Searambler | December 14, 2011, 9:22 am 9:22 am

Unlike the far left liberal hacks I don’t believe the average voter is stupid. Even though independents put Obama in office in 2008 it was because they were sold a bill of goods of “Hope and Change”. Obama also had no track record. Well he does now and its not pretty. Two years of a fully controlled Congress at his beck and call and he manages to pass a healthscam law through back room deals that even today is overwhelmingly unpopular. Blame, blame, blame and finger pointing is his game and it isn’t working.

Posted by: gary | December 14, 2011, 9:23 am 9:23 am

“Payroll tax cut”. Can’t you just feel the hand reaching for your wallet as they rub up against you? More damned politics…and people don’t even see it.

Posted by: newcountryman | December 14, 2011, 9:24 am 9:24 am

“Unfavorable Views of Obama Reach a High…” … Duh-uh!

Posted by: DBene | December 14, 2011, 9:25 am 9:25 am

For 3 years I have heard from Republicans “What part of broke don’t you understand?” Now it’s OK to spend, spend, spend on this pipeline that won’t be ready for many years. It’s not like it’s going to be finished tomorrow. So now I’m going to say “What part of broke don’t you understand?” And I can’t stand or tolerate drunks either and I am soooooooo happy they left the White House 3 years ago.

Posted by: howdymo1 | December 14, 2011, 9:30 am 9:30 am

Sea (9:21 AM); Both sides have been doing this since before we were even born. Remember the line item veto? Why are you so upset now?

Posted by: newcountryman | December 14, 2011, 9:31 am 9:31 am

commonsenseparty | December 14, 2011, 9:13 am post ——— LOL! You’re whining about Obama because he didn’t fulfill every single campaign promise he made. Boo frikkin hoo. He’s done a helluva lot better than his predecessor in virtually every area you mentioned. Is he perfect? Of course not. No one is. Y’all are trying to hold him to a much higher standard than you EVER held GW, or ANY other Republican politician, to. You believe that if he’s not perfect – meaning if he doesn’t do what YOU want him to do – then he is terrible. Well guess what? You’re gonna have to suck on four more years of Obama. Because the clowns on your side of the fence running for the privilege of going up against him ain’t gonna cut it with mainstream America. Yeah, his numbers may be down, but they’re still head and shoulders above his predecessor and above the losers you are wringing your hands over in the upcoming Republican primary…..

Posted by: Searambler | December 14, 2011, 9:34 am 9:34 am

Watch puppet Harry Reid now that this bill coming his way….try and see if you can see the strings. They’re not hard to see….unless you’re already BLIND!

Posted by: newcountryman | December 14, 2011, 9:35 am 9:35 am

It sure seems like the so call story writer is Trying to find good points for Obama. Never mind…He is, this is ABC

Posted by: joie | December 14, 2011, 9:35 am 9:35 am

Such polls never had much relevance, especially in an election year. But now even less: there’s the large percentage of entrenched “Obama-haters,” plus the catagorical backlash against incumbents in general (Congress has an even worse rating than the President). In that light, I’d say a 48% approval rating is remarkable. (At the Millie’s Dew Drop Inn, he’s got a 100% disapproval rating.)

Posted by: Steve | December 14, 2011, 9:38 am 9:38 am

Ovomit and Gingrich are running neck-and-neck in the polls, and yet we’re still a year out and the GOP’s cross-hairs haven’t yet been turned on this “administration’s” “successes.”

One and DONE!!! If impeachment hearings don’t bury him sooner.

Posted by: End_ofan_Error | December 14, 2011, 9:40 am 9:40 am

“Can you explain why?”…The pipeline is a source of filth. Canada just wants to outsource an environmental nightmare to American oil companies to refine it in Texas ports and sell it to China. The jobs are temporary and nothing says they will go to American instead of Canadian workers anyway, plus the number is grossly exaggerated in order to trick middle class voters into supporting it. In the end it’s not a long term source of jobs anyway, it’s just a filthy pipeline for the sole purpose of maintaining the wealth of the wealthy. It won’t bring down gas prices. It won’t make America energy independent. States will get $8 million dollars a year in leases. Wow. Change my life. It’s a money pump for the rich, and that’s all it is. I’d rather keep that filth out of my water, streams, and since it is a particularly low grade of oil, out of my air as well. Send the pipeline through the north pole directly to China. Get rich that way. The Chinese probably don’t want the mess either though, and Canada definitely does not want that pipeline. They cherish their environment, but not ours.

Next they’ll try to attach the Brooklyn Bridge to the bill.

Posted by: sameagain | December 14, 2011, 9:42 am 9:42 am

Searambler | December 14, 2011, 9:21 am —- It’s called a “compromise”. Something Obama and the Demcorats don’t want. Harry Reid has to go. He has 20 bills right now, at least 8 of which could create a favorable environment for job growth, and Reid won’t bring them up for discussion or vote. But hey, you keep blaming the GOP. Obama had 2 years of Democratic rule over this country and blew it. You all have a great day.

Posted by: commonsenseparty | December 14, 2011, 9:43 am 9:43 am

Prediction: In 2012 there will be a credible 3rd-party spoiler candidate who will drain enough votes from both parties to secure electoral votes. No candidate will have the 270 electoral votes necessary to win the election outright. The House will then decide the election, probably giving the election to the GOP candidate.

Posted by: MyTake | December 14, 2011, 9:45 am 9:45 am

” If this deal finally goes through then TransCanada wins, and Big Oil wins. The USA? Not really.”
Posted by: Searambler
Yeah, many, many thousands of jobs mean nothing, even though Obama himself keeps claiming we need jobs NOW. In short, American workers win with the pipeline, again many thousands of them. Obama has favored the pipeline himself also, but he flip-flopped and backed off when the environmental whack jobs oppsed it, and STILL moronically oppose it even after the pipeline route has been moved to eliminate most of their invented concerns. Ramble on, Searambler. LOL.

Posted by: Mary Contrary | December 14, 2011, 9:47 am 9:47 am

Searambler | December 14, 2011, 9:34 am —- I simply hold Obama to what I hold all President’s, to their own words. I will hold the next one to the same, no matter who it is. You should too instead of simply dismissing his campaign promises.

Posted by: commonsenseparty | December 14, 2011, 9:49 am 9:49 am

The End of a ERROR

Posted by: Andy | December 14, 2011, 9:49 am 9:49 am

You People Talk As If President Obama Is The One Who Spent All The Money And Got America In Debt, Lets Not Forget That it Was George Bush Who Went Into The Whit House With A Surplus Of Funds And A Balanced Budget. Our Current President Has had To Dig Us Out of the Financial Hole That Bush And His Republican Administration Dug America Into.

Posted by: charity | December 14, 2011, 9:49 am 9:49 am

Want to guarantee a bloody revolution in this country? Keep voting Democrat and/or Republican. Once the sheeple can no longer pay their cell phone bills or watch American Idol because they cannot afford their cable bill, they will indeed revolt. Our corrupt “leaders” will retreat to their mansions while you and I fight over the scraps.

Posted by: Karl | December 14, 2011, 10:02 am 10:02 am

Charity: I agree. There has been so much fraud and corrpution and there still is from top to bottom. We got into a war we shouldn’t have, Bush was the one who bailed out the banks…Obama bailed out the Auto Industry who paid it back and are doing well now. He got rid of Osama and did well in Libya. My problem is the GOP have a bunch of clowns who have no real solutions…all I hear is Obama is no good…but no REAL solutions. And why do the GOP want to tack on the pipeline to the extended tax cuts? I’m tired of all the politics. They have bashed this president from day one…Get rid of lobbyists, and lifetime perks for Congress and stop giving money to other countries…this has gone on for decades. And people have themselves to blame for overspending themselves! They bought homes and cars they couldn’t afford and now it’s Obama’s fault?

Posted by: Barb | December 14, 2011, 10:04 am 10:04 am

There are only two possible reasons this pipeline issue was added to the tax reduction bill:

1. It’s a poison pill to make sure it won’t get passed in the Senate.

2. The republican oil company toadies see a chance to get the pipeline approved under cover of the tax reduction bill.

The Senate should reject it, if not the President should veto it. Call the republicans bluff like President Clinton did by shutting down the government. The American people are not stupid as the republicans think, they see this pipeline issue as the excuse to obstruct that it is.

Posted by: tmferretti | December 14, 2011, 10:05 am 10:05 am

Real legislation and budget cutting must include the following:

Term limits for all federal politicians and bureaucrats (3, 2 year terms in House, 1, 6 year term in Senate)
Term limits for the Supreme Court (no more than 1, 8 year term, with public recall option after 4 years)
A 40% reduction in defense spending (focus actual spending on special forces)
End occupations of Afghanistan and Iraq
Close at least 50% of all foreign military bases
–Utilize returning soldiers for: guarding of border, security, infrastructure work, classroom instruction
Eradication of the Federal Reserve
Eradication of various cabinet level departments
Complete transparency of ALL federal and state spending/budgets
Eradication of the IRS and creation of a simple taxation system
Investment in infrastructure
Investment in alternative energy
Drill for oil and natural gas in the U.S., but maintain focus on alternative energy
Constitutional Amendment for a Balanced Budget

Posted by: Karl | December 14, 2011, 10:10 am 10:10 am

Now how again did the President divide the country? Was it by faking his place a birth? Was it by being a secret Muslim? Was it by asking that millionaires pay their fair share? Was it by pulling the troops out of Iraq? Was it by having his wife talk about the need for kids to eat healthy foods? Ths Obama guy is a monster!

Posted by: wadya | December 14, 2011, 10:12 am 10:12 am

From my viewpoint, we’re danged if we do and we’re danged if we don’t. What about Santa? He’s pretty popular right now…maybe we could get him to run.

Posted by: paisleychic | December 14, 2011, 10:15 am 10:15 am

TMFERRETTI, even more silly nonsensical spin from you, as usual. It isn’t working. The pipeline makes sense, and supposedly Obama basically favors it, so yeah, it is far from a “poison pill” — it is having people go on record for creating jobs or not and truly favoring the pipeline or not, instead of BSing around and “delaying” it further and yapping about jobs while doing nothing to help create them. Like you, I hope some bluffs get called, for sure. Namely Obama’s asinine, disingenuous bluff. More cowbell from you also, please. LOL.

Posted by: Jimmie | December 14, 2011, 10:16 am 10:16 am

Both sides are corrupt! We must vote all incumbents out! Obama is just as bad as any other politician in Washington and caters to the 1%. Vote third party! Send them the message!

Posted by: Flo | December 14, 2011, 10:18 am 10:18 am

Wadya: What the problem is: lies and scare tactics and people believe what they read and hear. I think the president is doing a good job considering all the problems and messes. Like I said the prolem lies with the people themselves spending way beyond their means…now there are foreclosures galore. Yes the mortage companies allowed this but people do not have any brains? If I make $30,000 a year I’m not going to take out a mortgage on a million dollar home. Anyone with any sense knows this. And Congress is a circus and gets perks for life! Think they will vote themselves out of this? NOT. And we had a war which cost us billions…finally getting out of it thanks to this president. I’m so tired of all the constant same old same old on these boards. We can argue back and forth but until the fraud and corruption are stopped and it is so far gone it’s almost impossible to fix. Sad…very sad…You know if a GOP gets in I will not let theml off easily until THEY fix all this and everyone has jobs! I’d like to see how they think they will accomplish this,.

Posted by: Barb | December 14, 2011, 10:23 am 10:23 am

Yes to Santa for President, and yes to Obama looking like the kid from Mad Magazine. Or perhaps this theory has merit…
“Obama’s ears get bigger when he lies. He looks like Dumbo now.”
Posted by: Moonhill
I just don’t know if Obama can go on successfully as a cartoon character. (Everyone can’t have as great of a career as mine.)

Posted by: Bugs Bunny | December 14, 2011, 10:24 am 10:24 am

JIMMIE

At the end of the year tell the American people their taxes are going up by a thousand dollars because the republicans insisted on raising this stupid pipeline issue.

If this pipeline is so important to the republicans, write a separate bill and debate it. Don’t hold the American people hostage because the republicans are trying to get something for the oil companies.

As I said, President Obama should go to the wall on this one; he’ll gain 160 million votes from the people who have seen their taxes increased.

Posted by: tmferretti | December 14, 2011, 10:24 am 10:24 am

TransCanada numbers count each job on a yearly basis. So 10,000 jobs in a two year period is counted as 20,000 jobs. It’s 13,000 construction jobs and 7000 jobs making pumphouses and the pipe itself. The proposed cost is $7 billion taxpayer dollars. Again, to use Republican words, “What part of we’re broke don’t you understand”. With all of the jobs that were lost in 2008 you are now going to bawl over a measly 10,000?

Posted by: howdymo1 | December 14, 2011, 10:27 am 10:27 am

Karl – most of what you want is NOT within the purview of the President. IF there is a tax system of ANY sort, there will by necessity be an IRS – someone has to collect it. IF there is a tax of any kind there will always be people opposed so there will be an IRS to go after them. We are already getting out of IRAQ and Afghanistan, Obama wants to invest in infrastructure and alternative energy but the Republicans in the House say NO.

Posted by: pksk531 | December 14, 2011, 10:29 am 10:29 am

When it comes to people’s views, they are entitled. But when I see posters on here making fun of the president or anyone’s looks, I know they either have very low self-esteem or have the mind of a toddler. These posts sound like a small child wrote them. I would LOVE to see what these posters look like! :–)

Posted by: Barb | December 14, 2011, 10:30 am 10:30 am

There isn’t a Republican in politics today that I would choose over President Obama. I TRUST my President and have nothing but disdain for what the Republicans have done for the past 12 years.

Posted by: demNme5 | December 14, 2011, 10:33 am 10:33 am

“…Don’t hold the American people hostage because the republicans are trying to get something for the oil companies…”
Posted by: tmferretti
TMFERRETTI, as I correctly pointed out, it isn’t “holding them hostage” at all, since basically most of them claim to support it, but also say out the other side of their mouths that they just want to “delay” it. Get it? Get the BS? Not terribly complicated. And yet again, it is many thousands of American workers who win, and the country as a whole who “gets something”, not just “oil companies.” Yet, again: The pipeline makes sense, and supposedly Obama basically favors it, so yeah, it is far from a “poison pill” — it is having people go on record for creating jobs or not and truly favoring the pipeline or not, instead of BSing around and “delaying” it further and yapping about jobs while doing nothing to help create them. Like you, I hope some bluffs get called, for sure. Namely Obama’s asinine, disingenuous bluff. More cowbell from you also, please. LOL.

Posted by: Jimmie | December 14, 2011, 10:36 am 10:36 am

Obama has made things worse. (Facts don’t lie like the Democrats do). In Jan 2009 -Unemploymnet rate was 5.2% ..today after three years of Obama it is really over 11%..price of gas on Jan 2009 was $1.35..today is is near $3.50. National Debt in Jan 2009 was $4.2 Trillion..three years after Obama is is over $14 Trillion. Obama is a complete diaster, you’d have to be a complete idiot to re-elect this moron (even the Cubs fired their manager).

Posted by: Peter King | December 14, 2011, 10:39 am 10:39 am

The news media always tries to bring down anyone running against the President. Even in this report you finally do say the President is not that popular but you have to ridicule the others more.

Posted by: Freedom | December 14, 2011, 10:44 am 10:44 am

—”The End of a ERROR”

POSTED BY: ANDY | DECEMBER 14, 2011, 9:49 AM 9:49 AM______________LOL! That post is quite an error in itself

Posted by: NoFlyZone2 | December 14, 2011, 10:45 am 10:45 am

DEMNME5 – Have you just awoke from a coma from years back? Do you not know that the Democrats have been in charge of Congress since 2006 and then the White House; then the period of Jan 2009 to Jan 2011 the Democrats controlled everything and the Republicans could not stop them, so how can you blame the Republicans for the past 12 years? If the Democrats are so great then why didn’t they fix things? They made things worse. So why trust them ever again? Stop drinking the Democrats koolaid it’s side effects are not covered under the Obamacare fraud.

Posted by: Peter King | December 14, 2011, 10:46 am 10:46 am

You know, I’m 65 years old and have been registered to vote for 44 years. I have never once been called for one of these “polls”. Is it possible that’s because I’m a registered Democrat and that’s not the spin they want on this? We all know that the news takes the “if it bleeds, it leads” stance. Bad news is a MUCH better sell. Anyone that believes this deserves everything they will get.

Posted by: Stevie851 | December 14, 2011, 10:47 am 10:47 am

___”obama has done too much damage to the country”

POSTED BY: SHIGERU | DECEMBER 14, 2011, 7:45 AM 7:45 AM___________NOT TRUE !!! BUSH IS THE ONE THAT TRULY DAMAGED THIS COUNTRY. HOW SOON CAN YOU FORGET THE IRAQ WAR BASED ON LIES, OR THE UNRESTRAINED FINANCIAL INSTITUTIONS THAT BROUGHT THE ECONOMY TO ITS KNEES.

Posted by: NoFlyZone2 | December 14, 2011, 10:48 am 10:48 am

Obama is doing a great job considering the total economy apocalypse Bush handed him. You all would do well to remember: it was our glorious king Bush who begged congress for over a trillion dollars of taxpayer money for bank bailouts caused by piss poor mortgage regulations and two endless quagmire wars before the election was even decided!

Posted by: Scotti | December 14, 2011, 10:52 am 10:52 am

I know, I know. Most of you are thinking — Bugs Bunny is funnier, wittier,
AND better looking than me, and I am just jealous. That is like…not entirely true. i just want to pump out rusty points in favor of Obama without interference from comedians.

Posted by: Barb | December 14, 2011, 10:52 am 10:52 am

Howdymo1 -and they are not likely to be US jobs, since TransCanada cannot guarantee that -would not be surprised if all but a token number are Canadian jobs. I still do not understand what that is doing in this tax package other than to try and “get” Obama – “we gave him what he wanted…blahblahblah.”

Posted by: pksk531 | December 14, 2011, 10:53 am 10:53 am

It is not only Obama, it is all government. Just look what these idiots have done to us
in taking over every aspect of are lives telling us how to live.They are in your car with cafe standards that will drive up the price of all vehicles, Ford recently dropped it’s
compact size Ranger because of the new standards, and let’s not use your phone
while driving and truckers it will be your CB next. Go to your kitchen turn on the light
bulb, no they got that also, now use your new mercury filled florescent bulb just don’t break it, hazmat team will be needed

Posted by: deadwrestler | December 14, 2011, 10:54 am 10:54 am

Demne: Before I leave for the day, I have to tell you that some of these posters are still using the same old kool aid, etc. They will bash you for your opinion. Only theirs is right. NOT! They do not know that the GOP was in control of both the House and Senate for SIX YEARS? And the Dems only had a majority of ONE for the next two. The past two years the GOP had control of the House and they said they would fix things immediately. They sure are fixing things aren’t they? NO NO NO…and bickering and holding up every Bill. And these are the people they want back in? Some of these posters are really not playing with a full deck or they are plants from the GOP. Either way, have a great day and do not let them get to you…I don’t anymore. I take it where it comes from :–)

Posted by: Barb | December 14, 2011, 10:55 am 10:55 am

Adding the pipeline to the bill again illustrates the make or break mentality of the GOP at this time in history. They know they are cooked for 50 years if the health care bill flies. They are tossing everything they have over the wall to lower public opinion of Obama because the downside won’t matter anyway if the gates give way and health care reform is allowed to be the incredible success that it can be.

The GOP is now running from hope and change. Afraid that when they finally see it’s hopeless, they will be forced to change. It won’t be worth the 50 years of political exile that will follow if they don’t.

Obama should veto the pipeline bill and run on it, as he said he will.

Posted by: sameagain | December 14, 2011, 10:58 am 10:58 am

POSTED BY: HOWDYMO1 | DECEMBER 14, 2011, 9:30 AM 9:30 AM, get youre story straight, the pipeline wont cost the taxpayer, nada, zilch, nothing, but will create jobs with real money.

Posted by: Lizzie | December 14, 2011, 11:04 am 11:04 am

I personally am tired of BOTH the Republican and Democrat parties. I will make best effort to never vote for a person in wither of these parties again. Some may consider this “Throwing away” my vote, I consider it making a statement. If more people would “Throw away” their vote it will send a message to these two parties that we are tired of their partisan crap and they need to wake up and do what is best for the American people. Come on sheeple you have a choice, don’t go with the norm and vote for a Republican or Democrat, be an individual and stand up for your rights.

Posted by: NoSpin1600 | December 14, 2011, 11:05 am 11:05 am

Posted by Commonsenseparty — “””””Excuse me, but he DID avenge 911 with HIS military policy changes, as well as actually greatly disable Al Queda. “”””””
Posted by: Ken
What military policy changes were those? Al Qaeda was greatly disabled before Obama even entered office. So from what we can take from your ost is if something good happens, Obama gets the credit, anything bad and it’s the GOP fault right? Nothing like partisan blather on your part. ————————————- Hmmmmmmm. Pot meet kettle. Since the conservatives want to blame the economy on the president and get their knickers in a twist every time someone mentions how he inherited that mess, I find this sickeningly hypocritical. Regardless, it was under President Obama that bin Laden was found and killed. This happened a couple of years into his presidency, and the Bush administration couldn’t do it in eight. I’m not giving the president the credit for finding bin Laden. That was the CIA. I am giving the president credit for how he handled the information he got from intelligence. He did not rush in too quickly and then stand under a sign stating “Mission Accomplished” three and half minutes after the mission was not accomplished.

Posted by: auntiedancer | December 14, 2011, 11:06 am 11:06 am

If the President keeps putting is faith in the good sense of the American people he’ll have no problems come November.

The public knows he is trying to recover from this recession and that the republicans are doing everything possible to keep it going, hoping the President is not re-elected. It’s a no brainer; the middle class sees the obstructionism and delay.

The republicans can spin and try to complicate the issues all they want; they will lose because Americans are fed up with their defense of the wealthy and their total disregard for hard working middle class voters.

Posted by: tmferretti | December 14, 2011, 11:07 am 11:07 am

Barb, where did you hear that the auto industry paid back ALL their bailout money? You better check and you will see that only a fration was paid back and they will never pay back the full amount. The ones who payed back PLUS inerest are the banks.

Posted by: Lizzie | December 14, 2011, 11:11 am 11:11 am

DEMNME5 – Have you just awoke from a coma from years back? Do you not know that the Democrats have been in charge of Congress since 2006 and then the White House; then the period of Jan 2009 to Jan 2011 the Democrats controlled everything and the Republicans could not stop them, so how can you blame the Republicans for the past 12 years? If the Democrats are so great then why didn’t they fix things? They made things worse. So why trust them ever again? Stop drinking the Democrats koolaid it’s side effects are not covered under the Obamacare fraud.

Posted by: Peter King | December 14, 2011, 10:46 am 10:46 am
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The 110th congress BEGAN on January 3, 2007. So my first question is why you feel the need to try to tack on a year to this when it’s simply false? During this congress the democrats had such a small lead they were rendered powerless and the republicans proceeded to stop everything and they began to be billed as “the most do nothing congress ever.” Now you guys try to change that. Then Obama got voted in. For about two weeks, due to illness, death and shootings they had a super majority. The entire rest of the time obstruction with filibusters were at play off the right. So it’s a myth “the republicans could not stop them.” They have. They continue to do so. Evidently some people will believe anything. Like you.

Posted by: lexingtonlady | December 14, 2011, 11:13 am 11:13 am

More of the total attack of government on the people, The EPA trying to close down
Portland cement. Stopped by the U.S. court of appeals for district of Columbia for
regulations that were arbitrary and capricious in failing to give adequate notice to
Portland cement. If the EPA had won 15,000 people out of work, 18 plants shut down.
But don’t worry we will get Chinese cement pollution over there allowed. And if you
are so worried about the Mercury emitted from these plants, just remember those
new mercury filled florescent bulbs they have put in your house.All this talk leads of
government in our lives leads me to the toilet, but alas, they have even got me
their, and now I have to double flush. Big government in your car, behind your light switch, after your job and in your toilet, if we could only plunge them down.

Posted by: deadwrestler | December 14, 2011, 11:16 am 11:16 am

I see again someone is using my name to post nonsense. Ok ABC you do not want to control your blogs…bye bye…Have fun kiddies. I don’t have time for this. I thought these blogs were to have real discussions but that is not the case.
No matter Pres. Obama will be re-elected. Remember I said this!

Posted by: Barb | December 14, 2011, 11:16 am 11:16 am

LIZZIE – Which loans are you referring to? Obama’s or: “President Bush signed a federal budget package that includes the much-anticipated $25 billion government-backed automotive industry loan guarantee program Tuesday evening.”???………… October 1, 2008.

Posted by: lexingtonlady | December 14, 2011, 11:17 am 11:17 am

Barb: Thanks for your support. I have no problem listening to these people because just knowing the clowns they’re backing tells me all I need to know. I CARE about my Country and it’s because I do that I pray that NO Republican wins the Presidency in 2012 because we NEED to complete fixing the MESS that GW and his followers have given us. YES it was gw’s mess and President Obama has been making steady strides in repairing his horrid damage while the Republicans in Congress stand in the way. Hey, Cons where are the JOBS, JOBS, JOBS, your LIARS promised????? THAT is why they will go down in defeat along with dozens of other reasons. They don’t care that in the quest to make our President FAIL they are in turn causing our NATION to FAIL ALSO!!! I know, as long as we get the black guy out, the ends justify the means.

Posted by: demNme5 | December 14, 2011, 11:20 am 11:20 am

Bush signed a federal budget package in 2008. This can not be true,
Lexington, surely you know the democrats were in charge of the house and senate
they would have had to sign off on this. Making them accomplices, I know your
wrong, because they don’t even do budgets, or is that just under Obama.

Posted by: deadwrestler | December 14, 2011, 11:26 am 11:26 am

Why does the GOP need the pipeline other than for their big oil friends? Even Transcanada admits it won’t create many PERMANENT jobs. Worse, the oil they sell will NOT necessarily be sold in the US, so it WON’T get us off of Oil from the Middle East.

Obama’s debt is only because of the crap he, actually WE, inherited from Bush. Iraq, Afghanistan, Medicare Part D, Bush Tax cuts. Those are the primary reasons why we have such huge deficits. And now that Iraq and Afghanistan are winding down, our deficits should decrease as well even though the GOP wants us to stay in there indefinitely and continue to lose our brave soldiers and spend our precious coin.

Posted by: BoboMcStevens | December 14, 2011, 11:26 am 11:26 am

POSTED BY: BARB | DECEMBER 14, 2011, 10:55 AM 10:55 AM youre spin on that PRICELESS, you just made my day, knowing that there are people like you that can have facts in front of them, but can’t understand them. Like Barney and Dodd helping with the downfall by denying that Fannie and Freddie are the root of the financial problem.

Posted by: Lizzie | December 14, 2011, 11:27 am 11:27 am

DEMNME5 – “His followers” need more blame in this. They were dumb enough to give him a second term. I feel like I live in a world where they break the lamp and blame the kid across the room that wasn’t anywhere near it. Now they sit here running me down over who I voted for? Laughable. The fact they wish to turn a blind eye to this obstruction is also a joke.

Posted by: lexingtonlady | December 14, 2011, 11:28 am 11:28 am

The bailout of the auto industry saved millions of jobs. It was approved by both President Bush and President elect Obama. Most of the money has been paid back and this year GM surpassed Toyota as the largest selling car company in the world.

If you republicans think it was a waste, tell that to the auto workers who can pay their mortgage and put food on the table.

Posted by: tmferretti | December 14, 2011, 11:28 am 11:28 am

The republicans can spin and try to complicate the issues all they want; they will lose because Americans are fed up with their defense of the wealthy and their total disregard for hard working middle class voters.

POSTED BY: TMFERRETTI | DECEMBER 14, 2011, 11:07 AM===That lame rhetoric is getting old. You got nothing. Ohio just spanked Obamacare and Virginia is now fully controlled by the repubs. Weiners 90 year old democratic seat went to a repub. Obama needs both Ohio and Virginia and thats not going to happen. we heard the same crap from you guys in 2010 and you lost.

Posted by: gary | December 14, 2011, 11:29 am 11:29 am

Headline Translation: Obama is incompetent, but people like him a lot! Sorry, that’s just not good enough for reelection in my opinion. At least not to this thinking American.

Posted by: s | December 14, 2011, 11:33 am 11:33 am

Apparently 48 percent of the country hasn’t been paying attention….or are stupid!

Posted by: tbanch | December 14, 2011, 11:34 am 11:34 am

response to—-Posted by: tmferretti | December 14, 2011, 10:05 am 10:05 am —–
YES!!! AGREE 100%!!! First lets get rid of the incompetent President. He certainly confirmed most peoples fear about inexperience, he has been suckered by the left wing and international community. I agree with every point you made and I know A LOT of other people that believe like us. I think we need a new political party that pushes this agenda. Personally, I believe party members on both sides are brainwashed sheep. This congress (Reps and Dems) need to be fired ASAP! and we start over with the term limits you described. The DOD cuts I absolutely 100% support and I’m a 24 year Army Vet in Special Forces. DOD as a whole is extremely wasteful, it angers me every day I see it. We need to cut excess personnel (senior officers- COL and General Officers) and do away with congressional pet projects to buy us equipment we don’t need. The industrial complex Eisenhower warned about became a reality.

Posted by: Army SF_Vet | December 14, 2011, 11:34 am 11:34 am

ferretti…we have tax payers and tax users. Generally speaking, the users earn no money or they’re government employees BUT they are all paid for from the pockets of the evil, nasty rich people you and your president love to vilify (unless he’s hittin’ ‘em up for campaign cash). We should do whatever it takes to keep the “rich” happy. The top 5% pay nearly 40% of all the taxes paid. Why would you do anything to tick ‘em off or to incent them to be less productive. Can’t you see you and your bottom-feeding friends need them?

Posted by: s | December 14, 2011, 11:37 am 11:37 am

The President has finally climbed high enough up the pole to expose his shortcomings!

Posted by: Common _ Sense | December 14, 2011, 11:45 am 11:45 am

I don’t know how anyone can say Obama is a bad president. Could he be a little more assertive, sure. But, congress has blocked absolutely every initiative he has tried to put through and just created chaos in our country. The GOP’s sole goal is not jobs, not economic growth, not American citizens. It is strictly getting Obama out. Obama is not the ultimate authority in our government, congress has the power here. Our economy went from good (Under Clinton) to bad (Under Bush) The unregulated growth, corruption in wall street, wars, etc etc was perpetrated by Bush and it was handed to Obama on a silver tray. Obama our worst president, I think not. Rather, Bush, our worst president. Bush rammed up the national debt to levels not even close to what Obama has spent. He caused this mess and Obama is trying to pick up the pieces. I feel more comfortable having Obama as our president than the Mormon Church or one of the other GOP idiots who are running. Yes, If Romney wins, the Mormon Church has control of our country. Because, if you all don’t see, Mormons must obey their church. I think some people need to take blinders off and see what is going on here. But too many people are followers and don’t think for themselves. Wake up people….

Posted by: Ryan | December 14, 2011, 11:55 am 11:55 am

The article really should have been titled ” How Stupid / Whiny Can The American People Become , 48% And Counting… ? ” . Mr. Obama is a decent man and good president , but since he can’t make whiny not-very-smart baby happy instantly , and keep whiny baby from whining all the time as the American Baby inherently likes to do , they’d rather replace him with inspiring honest “leaders” e.g. Newt the Toad or Mitt the Flip . Stupid get what stupid deserves.

Posted by: tim_in_la | December 14, 2011, 11:56 am 11:56 am

DEADWRESTLER – ‘WASHINGTON — The emergency bailout of General Motors and Chrysler announced by President Bush on Friday gives the companies a few months to get their businesses in order, but hands off to President-elect Barack Obama the difficult political task of ruling on their future.’………….. December 19 2008.

Posted by: lexingtonlady | December 14, 2011, 11:58 am 11:58 am

Term limits is a stupid idea , the founders left out terms limits ON PURPOSE 225 years ago and now a few stupid peons think they “know” better. Go do your laundry peons and let the intellectuals worry about the whys and why nots of what is , and what isn’t in the Constitution. Dumb asses , you’d ruin this Union just to be “winning” . Idiots.

Posted by: davem | December 14, 2011, 12:01 pm 12:01 pm

As I said it’s perfectly obvious which party promotes the interests of the middle class and which party promotes the interests of the truffle eaters. It’s been like that for 80 years. The republican trickledown theory is bogus.

I don’t know how many middle class republicans are on this blog but it’s time for them to decide if they are willing to support people who defend their interests instead of the interests of wealthy. You can call it class warfare all you want, but that’s the way it is.

The republicans are against welfare for the working people of this country but corporate welfare is perfectly fine with them. I think they believe the wealthy are smarter than themselves, which is true. The wealthy are at least smart enough to vote for their own interests.

Posted by: tmferretti | December 14, 2011, 12:03 pm 12:03 pm

When things don’t go the way liberals want them too they resort to calling the voters names. What a classy bunch

Posted by: gary | December 14, 2011, 12:04 pm 12:04 pm

Any vote for any GOP or Tea Bagger proves that whoever pulled that lever is a effning moe ron . End of story . Anyone who makes the conniving conservatives run around in circles like Mr. Obama does has my vote FOREVER.

Posted by: timkeller | December 14, 2011, 12:07 pm 12:07 pm

If I want to vote for Nancy Pelosi ( or John Boehner ) for my whole life , why can’t I ? This is America , and anything less infringes on my Constitutionally protected rights as an American citizen. Term limits are already in place , they are called “elections” . Duh.

Posted by: Go_Redskins | December 14, 2011, 12:14 pm 12:14 pm

“That lame rhetoric is getting old. You got nothing.”
Posted by: GARY (in reference to tmferretti ).
No doubt, and obvious to all. Just the same old stale and easily discredited “talking points” and spin from the compulsively and repetitively-posting ferret. He laughably believes it is persuasive for Obama, or at least against Republicans, no matter how many times he so easily gets ripped and whipped. Ka-Ching. And happy days.

Posted by: Jack Spratt | December 14, 2011, 12:16 pm 12:16 pm

And then there’s Harry Reid saying they can’t find anyone who makes $1M that creates jobs? What a liar. Wasserman-Sultz “unemployment is nearing where it was when Obama took office”. Liar. Do these people have any concept of truth? The real unemployment as measured before Clinton changed it is closer to 16%. And Reid/Obama want to DELAY the creation of 22,00 jobs (and more ancillary jobs) for over a year? He really does care about those unepmoyed, right?

Posted by: deanbob | December 14, 2011, 12:22 pm 12:22 pm

This is the worse crap that I have ever read. It is total nonesense that Obama out scores any leader in the U.S.. The guys a joke. Where has he been all of his life. He shows no knowledge of American History. I want to vomit when someone says he’s smart when he can’t speak on any subject unless he he reads it from his monitors!. Only the unformed/ignorant believe him. Dumb – dumb…

Posted by: Garr Rey | December 14, 2011, 12:22 pm 12:22 pm

Bottom line is Obama is only concerned about his green constituency on this particular issue.

Posted by: newcountryman | December 14, 2011, 12:27 pm 12:27 pm

Thanks for the laugh Garr. I can tell from reading our post you’re so much smarter. *sarcasm.*

Posted by: lexingtonlady | December 14, 2011, 12:27 pm 12:27 pm

“What’s up with Obama’s ears? Were they always that big and goofy, or has his his face become thinner, hence his ears look even bigger?”
Posted by: BUGS BUNNY
Oh you! Just vote for the cartoon named Obama, and stop asking swilly kwuestions.

Posted by: Elmer Fudd | December 14, 2011, 12:29 pm 12:29 pm

Obama is now politically paralized and will try to justify vetoing this bill with some politically idealistic babble about packing bills. If it were not so depressing that he’s ignoring a jobs gift horse in the mouth with this pipeline, it would be rather funny.

Posted by: newcountryman | December 14, 2011, 12:32 pm 12:32 pm

Overseas retirement is looking pretty good to me.

Posted by: A.D.DiSorda | December 14, 2011, 12:34 pm 12:34 pm

Hey Garr Rey: I’ll bet you THOUGHT gw was a genius huh.

Posted by: demNme5 | December 14, 2011, 12:37 pm 12:37 pm

” “What’s up with Obama’s ears? Were they always that big and goofy, or has his his face become thinner, hence his ears look even bigger?”
Posted by: BUGS BUNNY
Oh you! Just vote for the cartoon named Obama, and stop asking swilly kwuestions.”————–This pretty much captures conservative “intellectualism” most perfectly . Even George Will has gone into hiding . Lol !

Posted by: tellthetruth_ec | December 14, 2011, 12:38 pm 12:38 pm

(10:24 AM); “As I said, President Obama should go to the wall on this one; he’ll gain 160 million votes from the people who have seen their taxes increased.” Ok, one more time. No one is getting a tax cut. All this hubbub is about is S.S. withholding in their weekly paycheck remaining low. There is no “payroll tax cut”. Sheesh.

Posted by: newcountryman | December 14, 2011, 12:44 pm 12:44 pm

Silly poster above who assumes muchly and wrongly (tellthetruth_ec ). I never claimed to be a “conservative” at all. Just curious about the ears and funny looking cartoons in general. I’m confused, though…Are you claiming to be some sort of “intellectual”? That would make a good cartoon — a clueless, dumb guy posing as an intellectual. Pitch it to a studio.

Posted by: Bugs Bunny | December 14, 2011, 12:45 pm 12:45 pm

If it were not so depressing that he’s ignoring a jobs gift horse in the mouth with this pipeline, it would be rather funny.———Look , everyone but the sheeple like you realize the conservatives are playing another ideological game with this latest legislative issue , i.e. making the payroll tax vote hinge on some corporate welfare oil pipeline . Why this pipeline just HAS to be included in a payroll tax bill in the first place SHOULD be where the intellectual emphasis and analysis is applied . But conservatives are all disingenuous toads who try to lead the naive and easily fooled away from the real truth ., like the person who posted the original quote at the first of this post . The truth ? Take the oil pipeline (aka UNREGULATED corporate welfare ) out of the bill and it will pass instantly . End of story.

Posted by: franksweller | December 14, 2011, 12:46 pm 12:46 pm

The people can see with time that this man is full of lies, promisess and inactivity. Has done nothing with the unemployment, just politics for his reelection. What a waste for those that voted for him. My only hope is they dont do it again. This country has never felt so abandom, second class nation. this is what Obama has done best, destroying it to the ground. Wake up America, we have to make this country what it used to be before B.H.”Saetoro” Obama. The most powerful, respected and prosperous in the whole world..GOD SAVE OUR SOLDIERS, AND GOD BLESS THE USA.

Posted by: Pablo Maciques | December 14, 2011, 12:46 pm 12:46 pm

Overseas retirement is looking pretty good to me.——Sounds good to me ,i.e. one less whiny a55 mouthy stupid conservative to have to listen to be an “expert” on everything. You not packing yet ?

Posted by: liberalmobdemon | December 14, 2011, 12:47 pm 12:47 pm

If it were not so depressing that he’s ignoring a jobs gift horse in the mouth with this pipeline, it would be rather funny. Posted by: newcountryman | December 14, 2011, 12:32 pm……………..More like a Trojan Horse for the indigenous populations who are being impacted by this endeavor. You’ve already stolen their lands and massacred their people. When will you savages be satisfied. If nothing else, they should qualify as endangered species. How sad is that.

Posted by: Taintedbylies | December 14, 2011, 12:48 pm 12:48 pm

More are undecided about Gingrich than about the president.—–that will change REAL FAST the more they hear about him :-) And I”M SURE as soon as he gets the nomination, folks will be hearing ALOT MORE about Gingrich.

Posted by: Not UR Average Joe | December 14, 2011, 12:48 pm 12:48 pm

Who here has been polled? I’m 50, been voting since I was 18, and I have never ever been polled about anything. Who here has?

Posted by: Searambler | December 14, 2011, 12:50 pm 12:50 pm

his dreadfully horrible record —????????? growing 200,000 jobs per month is ‘horrible”? really? What is LOSING 700,000 jobs per month? That is what bush did, and that is EXACTLY what Newt will do. Remember, Obama is not running against the infallible, he’s running against his opposition, who is by far, WORSE than him and who has a MUCH WORSE track record and worse unfavorability rating. The only candidate with a GREAT record as far as getting a job done, is Romney and the stooges are not going to run him! :-) so, no worries, mate!

Posted by: Not UR Average Joe | December 14, 2011, 12:51 pm 12:51 pm

I do fervently hope Obama can still get re-elected, even with his dreadfully horrible record so far. He just needs another term to set everything right.———————It’s pretty sad when the right wing has to resort to outright lies and theft to “win” an argument / discussion , but that is because because their nexus “point” politically is the same thing , i.e.bold-faced lies and disingenuous connivance. Bottom line : conservatives suck.

Posted by: thillertheman | December 14, 2011, 12:51 pm 12:51 pm

TelltheTruth (12:38 PM); About the same level as the comment about Newt Gingrich’s butt. I think Axelrod should go into hiding. How ’bout this one, “I thought it was your nose that grew when you lied?”

Posted by: newcountryman | December 14, 2011, 12:52 pm 12:52 pm

OK, one more time. No one is getting a tax cut. All this hubbub is about is S.S. withholding in their weekly paycheck remaining low. There is no “payroll tax cut”. Posted by: newcountryman | December 14, 2011, 12:44 pm.

Yes, you are technically correct. Practically speaking, anything LESS taken out of a paycheck is, for all intents and purposes, a tax cut. Most people consider their federal and state taxes to be no different than their SS and Medicare deductions. It’s ALL money going out of their check before they get it……

Posted by: Searambler | December 14, 2011, 12:54 pm 12:54 pm

A note to the troll – I’ve copied your posts as you steal my name (as well as others) and reported you to the editors. Hopefully they can kick you off with your IP address. Grow up. For the life of me I can’t get what it is you gain from this immaturity.

Posted by: lexingtonlady | December 14, 2011, 1:00 pm 1:00 pm

and STILL moronically oppose it even after the pipeline route has been moved to eliminate most of their invented concerns. Ramble on, Searambler. LOL. Posted by: Mary Contrary | December 14, 2011, 9:47 am ……………………Typical. When you don’t have the facts you just start fabricating a story that your self righteous sense of morality can cope with. I wonder how you’d feel about it if it was traveling through your back yard, water supply, and sacred lands.

Posted by: Taintedbylies | December 14, 2011, 1:02 pm 1:02 pm

“…..he’s ignoring a jobs gift horse in the mouth with this pipeline…..
Posted by: newcountryman | December 14, 2011, 12:32 pm.

According to TransCanada, the “jobs gift horse” would generate between 3500 and 4200 pipeline construction jobs. Republicans shoot down numbers like this before breakfast………….

Posted by: Searambler | December 14, 2011, 1:02 pm 1:02 pm

Raising money from Bankers today
Obama is a lowlife liar, he is NOT for the middle class, his action prove it.. today he hobknobs with the rich the top 1%’ers
He is a disaster for America…draft hillary for president

Posted by: OWS | December 14, 2011, 1:05 pm 1:05 pm

Posted by: Taintedbylies | December 14, 2011, 1:02 pm 1:02 pm ……… Not to mention, do you remember the hoopla against those liberal Supreme Court judges regarding eminent domain a few short years ago? Now they’re evidently for it.

Posted by: lexingtonlady | December 14, 2011, 1:09 pm 1:09 pm

No one is perfect. How soon we forget how desperate we were to rid ourselves of eight years of Republican policies. Obama was handed a mess. No president could have fixed that mess, regardless of party, especially in such a short time span. It took eight years to create it and we want a miracle worker to come in and fix it in less than four. If he can’t, then he’s out. The alternative is another round of Republican reign. Just when you think it couldn’t get any worse … My life doesn’t change no matter who’s in office, although I truly believe the Dems are more American-oriented than the Republicans who are more corporate -oriented. I will vote for Obama once again. George Bush got four more years he didn’t deserve. I see no harm in putting Obama in for another four years. Something good might happen. I’ll take my chances. I know what to expect from the Richpublicans. Maybe if I were rich, I might feel differently.

Posted by: carole | December 14, 2011, 1:10 pm 1:10 pm

OK, one more time. No one is getting a tax cut. All this hubbub is about is S.S. withholding in their weekly paycheck remaining low. There is no “payroll tax cut”. Posted by: newcountryman | December 14, 2011, 12:44 pm.———–I guess you are right , especially when one compares these paltry fake tax cuts for hard working low-middle class Americans to the Bush REAL tax cuts for billionaires and hedge fund traders .

Posted by: thillertheman | December 14, 2011, 1:10 pm 1:10 pm

OUCH! OWS, a lowlife liar? That’s a bit rough, wouldn’t ya say? Compared to the lying Richpulbicans, Obama’s a saint. Remember Iraq? Who lied to get us in there and how many people died as a result? Now, that’s a lowlife. Obama hasn’t done anything that horrible!

Posted by: carole | December 14, 2011, 1:13 pm 1:13 pm

Who here has been polled? I’m 50, been voting since I was 18, and I have never ever been polled about anything. Who here has? Posted by: Searambler | December 14, 2011, 12:50 pm……………Over 50, registered since I was 18, voted in every election since. Never been polled.

Posted by: Taintedbylies | December 14, 2011, 1:15 pm 1:15 pm

President Obama is a pole climber! Now everyone can see what they elected!

Posted by: Common _ Sense | December 14, 2011, 1:18 pm 1:18 pm

I know how I am voting forever : Anyone but a lying 1% er protecting conservative GOP / Tea Bagger !! And that includes that goon neo-con Ron Paul as well !

Posted by: conservativescanttellthetruth | December 14, 2011, 1:24 pm 1:24 pm

Sea (1:02 PM); “According to TransCanada, the “jobs gift horse” would generate between 3500 and 4200 pipeline construction jobs.” Sounds good to me. The environmental studies are completed and this has been sitting on the Secretary of State’s desk for 3 years….at least hat’s what I’ve read. What could possibly be the excuse? Oh wait, I know. It’s a Republican initiative, (and 20 or so off the record Democrats.) Obama needs to grow some balls….

Posted by: newcountryman | December 14, 2011, 1:25 pm 1:25 pm

Meh… The real question at the polls will be ‘do you think the Republican candidate will be better’… I’m no fan of Obama and he wasn’t my first choice for D candidate last election. I was taking a serious look at McCain (in spite of the fact that he sold out his ethics when it came to torture) until Palin took the stage and opened her mouth. And to be absolutely frank there isn’t a R candidate running now that comes close to McCain. There are a few that are just as wacky as Palin though. I wasn’t thrilled with Obama and I think he made some mistakes but I get what he’s doing and where he’s coming from. The nonsense from the crazies like the birthers and the “where’s the jobs people” who won’t even bother asking their own Republican representatives what they did with the stimulus money they asked for and got just solidifies that I’m going to vote for Obama again.

Posted by: glacia | December 14, 2011, 1:26 pm 1:26 pm

Conservativecanttellthetruth; Real open minded there. Tell me, are you a member of Mensa?

Posted by: newcountryman | December 14, 2011, 1:29 pm 1:29 pm

“Compared to the lying Richpulbicans, Obama’s a saint.”
POSTED BY: CAROLE
You like to pretend to an unhealthy degree, or you are yet another sad victim of spin swallowing.
Obama is thoroughly dishonest, and corrupt as well. Wise up.

Posted by: Bruno | December 14, 2011, 1:29 pm 1:29 pm

I’m wondering if the two-party political system should be dismantled so that the American people can once again be who the Congress thinks about, and not be so idealistic as to think in terms of My Party and Their Party. It should be OUR party, OUR government, not Democrats or Republicans.
Has anyone noticed that all of Obama’s history is never questioned? Seems to me he was a do-nothing person prior to being elected as President and obviously that has not changed.

Posted by: nadine | December 14, 2011, 1:36 pm 1:36 pm

Veto the bill, take the hit on the payroll tax holiday and let the GOP take their hit in November. It will be worth the cost just to get rid of them and their TP friends. It won’t get rid of the corruption of lobbyists, but at least it will get something done in Congress. Then there will be plenty of time for discussing pipelines, jobs, payroll tax holidays, and improvements to the health care bill. Maybe they could even tell the all the lobbyists to vacate the premises and close the loopholes behind them. What a concept. Make capital hill a corruption free zone.

Posted by: sameagain | December 14, 2011, 1:43 pm 1:43 pm

@Nadine. I’m very much in favor of dismantling the 2 party system but there is only one way that works and that is changing the voting system to something like ranked voting. The problem is that research has shown that far too many Americans simply don’t understand the concept of ranking candidates by preference. There are other methodologies but they become even more complicated. If Americans can’t understand “Rank the following candidates by preference from 1-5 with 1 being the highest preference” then more complex methods are doomed.

Posted by: glacia | December 14, 2011, 1:48 pm 1:48 pm

“Unfavorable”? Gee, I wonder why…could it be

Operation Fast & Furious
Obamacare
Solyndra
NextEra
Light Squared
Siga Technologies
Failure to PASS a Budget.
Failure to enforce Federal immigration laws
Skirting Congress with unelected ‘czars’
America’s Credit Downgrade causes OUR investments to tank
30% loss in value of our homes
17.1% Real Unemployment
Highest Food Stamp usage in history
Suing AZ., and Al. and SC. and Boeing.
$800B for ‘shovel-ready’ Stimulus jobs that produced NO JOBS
Dept. of Energy under contempt of court and over 100 investigations
No Energy Policy…Oil & Coal production anemic
No Foreign Policy other than alienate our allies
Acorn / Union cronyism paybacks
General Incompetence from an incompetent Cabinet of academics
Taking No responsibility while Blaming everything else
$4 TRILLION in DEBT his first term

AND 0BAMA CAMPAIGNS AND FUND RAISES…BETWEEN VACATIONS
N0bama 2012

Posted by: vod-k-nockers | December 14, 2011, 2:12 pm 2:12 pm

Real open minded there. Posted by: newcountryman | December 14, 2011, 1:29 pm……………. Wow! That’s rich coming from you.

Posted by: Taintedbylies | December 14, 2011, 2:13 pm 2:13 pm

why does this site allow racist comments?

Posted by: aamom | December 14, 2011, 2:20 pm 2:20 pm

why does this site allow racist comments? Posted by: aamom | December 14, 2011, 2:20 pm…………………………….First Amendment.

Posted by: Taintedbylies | December 14, 2011, 2:42 pm 2:42 pm

vod-k-nockers – I can tell that you’re just one more extremist who expects nothing from a candidate except to be part of “the team”.

Most of those are pretty shrug worthy like ‘Operation Fast & Furious’. Since the Republican candidates want to invade Iran I’ll take another “Operation Fast & Furious” any day over another Iraq war. And it isn’t like the Republicans don’t have a laundry list of corporations that they’re not only beholding to. Heck it was the Republicans who were taking money right on the floor of Congress before votes.

“Obamacare”? Funny how at least half of what was in it were Republican ideas. In fact the so-called “death panels” was a Republican idea.

Failure to pass a budget falls as heavily on Republicans also.

Immigration is one that both parties are a failure at and will continue to be failures at until the extremists shut up. What cracks me up about the immigration “debate” is that both extremes use the same argument. They both cry that immigration is all the same whether someone is here legally or illegally.

The ‘czar’ thing was started by Republicans and it’s not a real title by the way. Funny that you object only to a Democrat doing it.

The downgrade was something that Teaparty Republicans openly hoped and tried for.

Job losses and declining home values were both coming for many years before Obama took office. I could add the fact that the same Republicans who cried that the stimulus didn’t create jobs also put in writing that they would create jobs if given the money. Ask them what they did with the money.

I’ll just say you have to be completely disconnected about the foreign policy if you think it’s gotten worse under Obama.

“Taking No responsibility while Blaming everything else” That one was hilarious considering that the Republicans blamed Clinton literally right up to the end of the last admin. And frankly considering that we are still paying off trillions in bonds the Bush admin sold to China to fund the war to nowhere, the phony tax rebate etc. it’s not untrue.

Posted by: glacia | December 14, 2011, 2:52 pm 2:52 pm

@Taintedbylies – You might want to take a class in Constitutional law. ABC is free to censor anything they want on their website. The first amendment prevents the government from interfering with expression.

Posted by: glacia | December 14, 2011, 2:55 pm 2:55 pm

The only thing that the President has done to anger some conservative types is try to cleanup Bush’s, wall street’s, and some corporations messes!

Posted by: bobbob7779311 | December 14, 2011, 2:56 pm 2:56 pm

Heard Obama was applauded recently, but for what? Vacationing, golfing eating campaign dinners with finesse? Couldn’t be for his policies and agendas – most of those haven’t worked, but that’s OK. Our military sacrifices and accomplishments (when he wasn’t in office), are his successes, everything wrong with the country is the GOP’s and Independents fault.
What will be will be, but clapping for a job well done when it isn’t true, is very strange.

Posted by: Jim Jackson | December 14, 2011, 3:02 pm 3:02 pm

Heard Obama was applauded recently, but for what? Vacationing, golfing eating campaign dinners with finesse? Couldn’t be for his policies and agendas – most of those haven’t worked, but that’s OK. Our military sacrifices and accomplishments (when he wasn’t in office), are his successes, everything wrong with the country is the GOP’s and Independents fault. Mr. G. or BO. Obama would love that. What will be will be, but clapping for a job well done when it isn’t true, is messed up.
(that’s all I have to say)

Posted by: JacksonJones | December 14, 2011, 3:07 pm 3:07 pm

@Taintedbylies – You might want to take a class in Constitutional law. ABC is free to censor anything they want on their website. The first amendment prevents the government from interfering with expression. Posted by: glacia | December 14, 2011, 2:55 pm………………….Pardon me. In my opinion, ABC news allows racist statements to be posted because they believe that the first amendment gives people the right to express their views and opinions and they choose not to interfere with those rights…………………geez people whining because they censure, and then when they don’t they still gripe.

Posted by: Taintedbylies | December 14, 2011, 3:38 pm 3:38 pm

Taintedbylies – Nothing you just wrote has anything to do with the US Constitution. ABC can censor anything it likes in the forums and often does. And nothing I wrote was a ‘gripe’ about ABC censoring so changing the subject doesn’t change the fact that you were wrong.

Posted by: glacia | December 14, 2011, 3:54 pm 3:54 pm

@ Taintedbylies – I also think you mean ‘censor’ not ‘censure’. At least I assume you do.

Posted by: glacia | December 14, 2011, 4:00 pm 4:00 pm

I”’ll just say you have to be completely disconnected about the foreign policy if you think it’s gotten worse under Obama.”
Posted by: glacia
Right. I’ll just say you have to be beyond garden-variety delusion to believe it is “good” under Obama. No world leader, friend or foe, respects Obama to any appreciable degree at all, and most view him as a merely a blowhard pansy. Am I wrong? Name a world leader who does, in fact, actually respect or even trust Obama to any decent degree. Reality check — one among many needed for you it seems.

Posted by: Bruno | December 14, 2011, 4:06 pm 4:06 pm

@Bruno – “good” is subjective. I said it improved and did foreign opinion improve under Obama… without question. The Bush admin took an isolationist view pulling out of multiple international treaties and appointing a UN representative who openly believed that the UN shouldn’t exist. The Obama admin’s position of letting the people of Tunisia, Egypt and Lybia decide their own government instead of stepping in to force an agenda has not only been the right thing for the US and those countries but it’s looked at as the right decision by most world leaders. When they stepped in it was with diplomatic pressure and in the case of Lybia encouraging France to take the lead militarily. I could also point to how the Iraq war was the best thing to happen to Iran’s political and military objectives since it removed their long adversary and allowed them to focus on other agendas.

Posted by: glacia | December 14, 2011, 4:39 pm 4:39 pm

Oh and Bruno… to answer your question… yes you are wrong. Unless you can provide some evidence of your hyperbole it’s nothing but your own cheerleading for your team. That’s in fact the worst failing in our country; people like yourself who expect nothing from a politician but to be part of ‘the team’. If you expected as much from ‘your team’ as you claim to expect from ‘the other team’ you would be too busy criticizing the politicians you voted for to worry about the ones you didn’t. Do you know why all politicians are eventually corrupt? Because people like you excuse them for it. Is Obama a great president? I haven’t seen one of those in my 50 years but Obama is without question an improvement over the last one and when I look at the alternatives for 2012… I’ll choose him again over nonsense like invading Iran and reinstating DADT.

Posted by: glacia | December 14, 2011, 4:53 pm 4:53 pm

I love the qualifier about Newt Gingrich. They simply can’t just report the polls results as they pertain to the President but have to find someone who is even less popular in order to report this. They tone of the article is almost apologetic. They just can’t stand putting this President in a negative light and it pains them that their own polls show any decline after their many efforts to protect him. Boehner, McConnell, Cain, Bachman, Paul, Santorum; the press can tear them to shreds all day long without a second thought but not Barry; he’s their guy and to heck with the facts.

Posted by: MnNice | December 14, 2011, 5:09 pm 5:09 pm

If some in America likes wall street tanking, the economy tanking, jobs tanking, getting into questionable wars(namely Iraq), outsourcing of jobs with taxpayer’s funds, and tax breaks for the wealthiest, perhaps, I would be angry at the President too because he has not done any of those things like his republican predecessor did!

I do understand the illogical anger coming from the right, I understand.

Posted by: bobbob7779311 | December 14, 2011, 5:56 pm 5:56 pm

“@Bruno – “good” is subjective…Oh and Bruno… to answer your question…”
POSTED BY: GLACIA
I see you’re another one who really likes hearing your own voice, or, more precisely, seeing your own posts in cyberprint. Anyway, your response is, quite ironically, just more “cheerleading for your team,” team Obama, which is sadly weak and laughably lame. That’s the overall problem, actually. Almost everyone who is even half aware senses and sees that in foreign policy Obama is weak, usually passive, almost always ignorant, and very, very slow. In the Mideast, this pattern has been evident : he couldn’t decide on how to react properly, let alone decisively, to the public riots and demonstrations in Iran against that dangerous and brutal regime, so he ended up just blowing some empty hot air and lending next to no real support, in words or in deeds, and in Libya he also led from far behind, if he “led” at all. In Iraq, he hypocritically flip-flopped all over the place over the years, but finally decided to bring ALL of the troops home from there, which self-servingly satisfies his “team” or base of support. Back to Iran: they are basically laughing at him, even publicly and often, knowing full well that Obama will not stop them from getting nukes — at most he’ll just continue yapping about the need to stop them from getting nukes. Just as he is with the economy, he’s weak and incompetent and ignorant in foreign policy, and if fate allows something to go his way or temporarily seem to, even if he had little direct involvement, then he’ll happily and arrogantly take “credit”, but if not, then he’ll just keep on jawboning about it in his habitually vague and spineless sound-byte pontifications and platitudes, and, of course, seeing who else is around to blame for his own failures.

Posted by: Bruno | December 14, 2011, 10:32 pm 10:32 pm

My problem with all the people that bag on Obama is that “some” of them (and I emphasize some) what the administration before him did to really mess this country up. The Bush administration first took us to war against a country under false pretenses. Made the American people believe there were WMDs and guess what there were none. Then while taking us to war, which by the way costs a lot of money, he cut taxes for the rich… which also costs money and ends up earning less. Normally its understood if you are going to go to war you are going to have to increase taxes in some way or another. Taxes pay for military, pay for government, pay for the war. But no he cut taxes causing our economy to fall because America had no money because we cut our income. Now does that sound stupid? If you knew you would have to go to the hospital next week for an extended period of time, would you quit your job? No! Then he starts spending money on Guantanamo and keeping “supposed” terrorists and torturing them for answers while waving his christian flag. No christian would torture another human being regardless of where or what they may have been involved in. Now Obama can’t do anything because the republicans want to play a political game and not allow him to do anything. Well that’s my two sense.

Posted by: Isak | December 14, 2011, 10:48 pm 10:48 pm

It is really amazing to me that his poll numbers are even this high, low as they are. I can only conclude that knee-jerk ideological agreement, constant spin from the left, and just plain old ignorance go a long way to keep this obvious failure of a president still slightly afloat.

Posted by: Lauren | December 14, 2011, 11:07 pm 11:07 pm

Conservatives, try as you may,however, it was the conservatives that started the current mess. Clinton left the country good shape. Bush handed the economically wounded country to President Obama! What is not true about this statement?

Posted by: bobbob7779311 | December 15, 2011, 12:55 am 12:55 am

What is obvious is that the right hate government! Why do the right want to control government so badly? Think America! I must be mistaken but I kind of sure that the current economic downturn happen on Bush’s term and he handed the controls to the current President. I could be wrong?

Posted by: bobbob7779311 | December 15, 2011, 1:04 am 1:04 am

Once again, the media fails to tell the whole story, as the president is more popular than his rivals and Congress.

President Obama did not create this situation, but he did keep it from getting worse, and “independents” will vote for him because neither Gingrich nor Romney have any ideas.

For those of you who view Obama as a failure, I suppose you liked Osama Bin Laden alive.

Posted by: unholy33 | December 15, 2011, 1:50 am 1:50 am

Recent and typically revealing case in point: that drone of ours that Iran now has: Obama politely asks Iran to return it to us, and they chuckle and give Obama the middle finger and continue on and on bragging about having it and using it and how great that all is for them.
Yep…duh… Obama did his job, (pathetic lol), and now it’s time to go golf and shoot some hoops and plan his next teleprompted speech and his next vacation with the family.

Oh, and this, lol: “For those of you who view Obama as a failure, I suppose you liked Osama Bin Laden alive.” (UNHOLY33). You can ride that horse as far as it will go, but it won’t run much, nor run strong, since he had almost no direct involvement other than being on the sidelines saying “OK” while the SEALs did their job.

Posted by: jimmie | December 15, 2011, 8:07 am 8:07 am

The republicans are a failure, case in point, they deliberately tie unrelated items together in bills that should be clean. This is proof that the republicans are sinking and needs to resort to dirty tricks to remain relevant.

Posted by: bobbob7779311 | December 15, 2011, 11:29 am 11:29 am

Just face it — Obama sucks. He’ll lose next year or we’ll all lose, again.

Posted by: Jackson | December 16, 2011, 1:13 pm 1:13 pm

Pres. OBAMA. Has done a great job, The pols are not done by everybody,. If they polled everybody the numbers will be higher in his favor. He done a much better job that the previous Pres. People always want to put the problem on the current leader. You much remember that the previous leader started the country going Down Hill. Pres. OBAMA, has tried to correct the problem and the republicans keep turning down thing that need to keep us up. You peoplewho has a problem with Pres OBAMA, You really think a republician can do better, He!! No, we will be in the same state of debt as that man before Pres OBAMA. Think before you speak or write and poll everyone not just some

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