With Race Heating Up, Republicans Set To Square Off In Pivotal Iowa Debate

Dr. Paul does have some good ideas and opinions but, he is just too far out of the mainstream on too many issues to get elected in a national election. He comes from a more simpler time but, is trying to run in a very complicated world today.

INDYMIND, 20 percent (and growing) would disagree with you on the premise that peace, more freedom and smaller government are “out of mainstream”.

Ron Paul has a few good ideas wrapped up in a whole lot of crazy ones. Mainstream America won’t have the opportunity to reject him in a national election, because the Republican Party won’t pick him as their man to go against Obama. They know he would get crushed in a general election. He has run twice before. Once as a Libertarian, and once as a Republican. This bid of his will end the exact same way – in failure. Sorry, Paul supporters, but that is the reality of America today…………

I sincerely hope all you Ron Paul supporters write-in his name next November. I really hope y’all “walk the walk” instead of just “talking the talk”. Stand by your man! Write in Ron Paul! Because Barack Obama could use the boost……….

I am curious, how does Ron Paul square his willingness for federal restrictions on a womans personal medical decisions with his claim to absolute freedom?

deanbob | December 10, 2011, 9:30 am post ———– Your so-called “Republican elite” are the good ol’ boys that run the Republican Party. They don’t like Newt at all, because they know him better than anyone else. (And they HATE Ron Paul!) They will not allow him to be their choice, ’cause they KNOW he would get destroyed in a general election. Just read a few of the things his Republican co-workers are saying about Newt, if you don’t believe me. They’re practically writing anti-Newt campaign ads! The Republican candidate will be Willard Mitt Romney……

dan | December 10, 2011, 9:50 am ——— You act like there isn’t another “person” involved in the “medical decision”! —- Ignoring that fact is blatant deception ….. ignorance is bliss!!!

Newt “Let’s make nine year olds school janitors” Gingrich, or Mitt “Corporations are people, too” Romney. What a pathetic choice y’all have on the Right. EVERY other candidate on the Right is already out of the running, the proverbial ‘dead men (and woman) walking’. Obama will win another term.

TheLoyalOpposition – it is the woman’s decision and her’s alone. That is a constitutional fact. Deal with it.

I just love the pictures here on abc that says “what the gop candidates should see”. Do they not realize that Obama is president and maybe he ,Pelosi, and Reid should have looked at them 3 yrs. ago instead of making a bad situation worse?Thats right, Obama is not responsible for anything, every single failure is Bush’s fault and now the House.

It is interesting! I have made comments in several sites and those passionate supporters of Ron Paul never reply or rebut my comments when I point the following:

1. Ron Paul is not conservative, he is libertarian;
2. On social issues Ron Paul is to the left of Obama;
3. In matters of national security Ron Paul is to the left of Obama;
4. In foreign affairs Ron Paul is to the left of Obama;
5. Ron Paul is to the left of Obama on handling terrorism. Just as Obama he believes terrorists have the right to an attorney and by implication it goes without saying that he believes terrorists should have the Miranda rights read to them.
6. Ron Paul does believe waterboarding is torture when most conservatives don’t believe that.
7. He lies and repeats liberal rhetoric when he states waterboarding has not yielded any positive results when there is an abundance of reports to the contrary.
8. He states waterboarding was widely used, when the reports show it was only used against 2 or 3 top terrorists.
9. Ron Paul blames the USA for 9/11. He aligns himself with the extreme leftwing conspiracy theory crowd on that matter.
10. Ron Paul’s views on our military: it is unnecessary spending. He often claims (as the extreme left does) conservatives don’t care for the deficits/debt because they are for spending with defense. Well, defense is absolutely a role of government. One of the few roles.

Perhaps there are true conservatives who want to disregard that because of his stands on fiscal matters, however, it is extremely dangerous to think that way.

RYANC, you live in la-la land. Doing what Obama has been doing will only make things worst as they have so far. At least now the GOP House has stopped him. That is good. Gridlock, to avoid disaster, is a wonderful thing.

Ron said Really, a Republican debate moderated by two loony leftists, one of whom was also a Clinton enabler ?—–I thought the same thing. I wonder if Diane is still going to be televised in soft focus tonight? HDTV is definitely not her friend.

I also wonder why they gave these two Obama boot kissers this moderator job. Ever watch these two interview Obama? Don’t, not on a weak stomach anyway. After hearing and watching them a few times the channel went click to Married With Children. No way these two can be impartial unless they are great actors.

Most voters have come to realize its ANYBODY but Obama in 2012..

LOL, Searambler, no indeed. Looks like Newt hit the truth nail smack on the head, no matter how un-PC it may be. He’s likely to point out some more inconvenient truths, which will alienate him from some ignorant dullards and endear him to those who do value the Truth.

FANDAELISISABOOB, an elementary lesson of posting: those who post lengthy rants in ALL CAPS are either A) in Junior High School, or B) Overly histrionic and perhaps nutty as can be. Either way, they are not to be taken seriously. Good Luck. Try again when you have something half-rational to say.

Jimmie, that’s why no one takes Ron Paul seriously . I mean the guy is a magnet for right winger loose screws and loons. It’s what he sells , i.e. extra whacky conservative ” ideas” , that draws the nutcases out of the woodwork . Hey , let’s legalize heroin ! Lmao…

JIMMIE….NICE JOB…WAY TO COME BACK WITH EVIDENCE TO REFUTE THE HARD FACTS I LAID OUT….CONGRATULATIONS…YOU ARE A CLUELESS BOOB LIKE FANDAELIS…GO VOTE FOR MORE WAR AND MORE THEFT BY THE WALL STREET CRIMINAL BANKERS BY ALIGNING YOURSELF WITH OBAMA OR ANY OF THE OTHER GOP CANDIDATES WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THE LONE PATRIOT, DR. RON PAUL…..I HAVE NO TOLERANCE FOR BONEHEADS THAT REFUSE TO WAKE UP….DON’T POST AGAIN UNLESS YOU ACTUALLY HAVE EVIDENCE TO SUPPORT YOUR CASE AGAINST THE HARD FACTS I GAVE YOU….TRY TO EDUCATE YOURSELF FOR ONCE IN YOUR LIFE, YOU CLUELESS SPECIAL ED BOOB!!

Please get a grip, FANDAELISISABOOB. You aren’t helping your cause by posting like a lunatic from the juvenile detention center. Ron Paul doesn’t stand a chance, so get over it and take that CAP LOCK off your keyboard. In short, post like an adult who is not meth, ok?

Obama has proven to be the arrogant, condescending used car salesman that we all knew he would turn out to be.

I love these anti-paul supporters…..do you realize a vote for Obama or any of the other GOP candidates is a vote for more war and more confiscation of our liberties and more corruption from the banker controlled Congress and office of the presidency. Instead of lodging insults at supporters of Dr. Paul, why don’t you educate yourself and post comments that are factual. Dr. Paul wants to end the illegal and unconstitutional Federal Reserve. Dr. Paul wants to bring our troops home to protect our borders and end the illegal wars and cease the gouging of the taxpayer from the military industrial complex like Halliburton and Brown and Root and the big oil companies. Do you people understand the facts? Not one of the other GOP candidates nor Obama will do what is necessary to return this country to the constitution which is how its greatness was built. If you don’t agree with Dr. Paul and his supporters, tell us why you want more war and more corruption from the Wall Stree/Banker controlled Congress? Tell us why you think all of the GOP candidates except for Dr. Paul have received hefty contributions from the big banks…as well as Obama. Do you think things will change with Obama or any of the other GOP candidates?? Obama voted for the illegal banker bailout and has increased military action. All of the other GOP candidates want to continue the wars and continue the criminal private Federal Reserve. Please people….educate yourself and stop being brainwashed…or at least post a comment that refutes the facts of what is happening and been happening in this countries for years

Kim , there’s a difference in facts , and talking points . All I personally see in your posts are your FOX imbued puppet/parrot opinions which are more commonly now in the colloquial , as “talking points” . It’s easy to say things like ” his dreadful performance thus far” , but until that opining is backed up with the empirical “whys and hows” , your base argument / assertion (i.e. Obama sucks , in general ) sounds less of something a pragmatic thoughtful adult voter would say / type and more like something a petulant angry
Bush/ Cheney voter might attempt to convince others of in a public forum , in a all-too-common conservative disingenuous ploy to divert attention from who the REAL crooks are , onto the good hearted (D) clean-up crew who is trying to help the sick , the poor, hard working Americans , and the unemployed as well .That is NOT the GOP / Tea Party , that’s for sure. They are the ones who are blocking the Consumer Protection Bureau from opening and trying to cut out the payroll tax holiday for middle class Americans , just read the news if you can do so objectively and honestly Kimberly , which I doubt.

Scared Obama supporters trying to discredit Ron Paul, it’s embarrassing. Ron Paul is in the top 3 now, tied for 2nd. The Grinch and FlipFlop Mitt support the corrupt “Patriot” Act and undeclared Wars. They want to expand Patriot Act powers and support the terrible NDAA bill. Meanwhile, Ron Paul has fought for the American people for 30 years, advocating sound monetary policies, ending the Wars, Auditing the Fed, ending the multi-billion dollar Drug War and repealing the Patriot Act. Ron Paul fights for peace, prosperity and liberty.

He is the only GOP candidate who supports reducing the size and powers of the Federal government, allowing the states to vote for themselves what laws they enact, instead of having their money taken away and given a portion back with rules & regulations attached, like the Dept. of Education forcing No Child Left Behind on states or get none of their money back if they don’t comply. Ron Paul is the only hope we have for restoring peace, prosperity and liberty to the American people.

I will vote for the candidate that promises to abolish lobbyists and the Federal Reserve. Anyone who follows one party or the other is a follower. Simple as that. Why are neither of those issues ever brought up in these debates? Status quo. We do not have a candidate that that will serve the American people. Stock up on food, water, and anything you need to defend yourself, or you’re pretty much screwed

I’M 79 YRS OLD BEEN MARRIED 56 YRS. AND I HAVE NEVER COMMITED ADULTRY, TRY ASKING ANY ONE OF THEM I9F THEY CAN SAY THAT. I THINK RON PAUL SHOULD RETIRE, HE’S TOO OLD. I DON’T BELEIVE GEINGRICH. RIGHT NOW LIKE ROMNEY , MAY CHANGE.I

Let me first say, that the usual Democratic bias of ABC was not obvious in this debate, which I appreciated. The moderators did their jobs well, allowing reasonable latitude to the candidates, and the questions were all reasonable and relevant.

Thanks ABC for doing a very good job, in the presentation of this debate. It will further the ability of the voters to make decisions that are meaningful.

The overall tone of the debate was good. The candidates handled their differences with civility, which I appreciated, as well.

I did not feel there was any significant rank change, among the candidates for me, but I was again impressed with how Gingrich handled himself, and how he dealt with his critics.

I do think Romney did one of his better jobs, but his “bet” offer to Perry, was inappropriate in that environment. otherwise he handled himself as well, or better, as any other debate, but I would still not score a “win” for him, as I did not score any better than a tie for “win” in any other debate. One other issue for me, was his criticism of Gingrich’s comments on the Palestinians, as I happen to agree 100% with what Gingrich had to say on that issue.

I see the leaders as Gingrich, Romney, and Perry, in that order. I suspect, that is unlikely to change, but there is still time, as there will be another debate on Thursday, where someone might make a serious mistake.

I do think it is time to get the best possible candidate. We really shortchanged this country, by putting a weak President, with few skills, into office, at a critical time in our economy, and that bad choice, has to go.

A person wrote: (It is interesting! I have made comments in several sites and those passionate supporters of Ron Paul never reply or rebut my comments when I point the following:)
Here are my answers to your previous post as I understand them.
1. Ron Paul is the most conservative of the candidates because abiding by the Constitution of the United States is all about being conservative.
2. On social issues Ron Paul follows the Constitution of the United States as he is sworn to do as an elected official
3. In matters of national security Ron Paul follows the Constitution of the United States
4. In foreign affairs Ron Paul follows the Constitution of the United States and the lessons of our forefathers who created the great Constitution of our country.
5. Ron Paul is not for terrorism. He believes that Americans who are being labelled as terrorists have the right to due process Guaranteed by the Constitution of the United States. To take away that right leaves every single one of us at the peril of tyranny. That Once the government has the right to imprison us indefinitely without a trial and without the right to prove that we are not a terrorist, every single one of us is at risk of life imprisonment without any recourse or evidence.
6. Ron Paul does believe waterboarding is torture. And as a thirteen year veteran of the US Army, so do I!
7. Torture does not produce reliable intelligence because it is a form of coersion and threat. How many Americans have been badgered into confessions after days and weeks of “interrogation” only to find that they were innocent all along.
8. The “reports” are not going to show the people how often waterboarding is used against “our enemies” because it would paint a much grimmer picture than they want us to believe.
9. Ron Paul does not BLAME the USA for 9/11. He asserts that he believes what Bin Laden himself told us the reasons for 9/11 attacks were. One need only search on YouTube for “Bin Laden claims responsibility for 9/11”
10. Ron Paul’s views on our military: that our military was created to defend our nation and that as per the Constitution of the United States, war must be declared before invading a foreign land.
Ron Paul follows the Constitution of the United States of American as his GUIDANCE in all affairs. He listens to the lessons of those who fought in the Revolutionary War and those who knew that Big Government, Pre-emptive wars of Agression, and Meddling in the Affairs of other Nations would lead to the shredding of the Constitution and the destruction of our great nation.