Jan 19, 2012 11:31pm

Analysis: Winners And Losers In South Carolina Debate

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Winners:

Santorum: This was his strongest performance of the entire campaign. He was confident, polished and substantive. He was determined to fight Newt Gingrich for the mantle of the “conservative alternative” to Mitt Romney. Does this give him enough of a boost to win South Carolina primary? Probably not. But, it does offer him the opportunity to pull in some of the undecided conservative voters and, ultimately, to deny Gingrich a “W” here on Saturday.

Gingrich: The former Speaker dominated the first five minutes of the debate with his scathing attack on moderator John King. King opened the debate by asking Gingrich to respond to allegations made by Gingrich’s ex-wife Marianne in an interview with ABC News and the Washington Post that Gingrich encouraged her to enter into an open marriage. The question was an invitation for Gingrich to do what he does best – chastise the media. Gingrich got the crowd on their feet with lines like this one: “I’m am appalled that you would begin a presidential debate on a topic like that.”

Meh:

Romney: After a halting performance in the Myrtle Beach earlier this week, Romney was more confident and poised. But, his halting answer on releasing his tax records elicited audible boos from the audience. Given the fact that this issue has dominated the race for the last week, it is surprising that he has yet to come up with a solid answer on this. Moreover, he continues to look uncomfortable when he tries to downplay his considerable wealth. But, the fact that Gingrich and Santorum both turned in solid performances tonight means there’s still a strong likelihood that they divide the conservative vote and allow Romney to squeak out a win.

Losers:

Mainstream Media: There is no fatter and more appealing target to an audience of conservative Republicans than the mainstream media. And, John King opened the floodgates tonight with his opening question to Gingrich about accusations from his ex-wife. The question only helped to sow the seeds of distrust among conservatives about the intentions of traditional media organizations.

Ron Paul: Even though there were only four candidates on the stage tonight, Paul faded into the background. Even Santorum and Gingrich, who have enjoyed sparring with the Texas Congressman in previous debates, essentially left him alone tonight – a sign that his relevance in this state is much more limited.

Foreign Policy: Iran – and its threat of close the Straits of Hormuz – has been a big talking point on the campaign trail and in Washington. Still, we didn’t hear about Iran – or any other foreign policy issue of any sort tonight.

User Comments

Please be FAIR and unbiased!!!!! Paul supporters would really appreciate it :) Where is he…oh he isnt even in the picture

Posted by: CHall | January 19, 2012, 11:48 pm 11:48 pm

The elder statesman RON PAUL DOMINATED tonight. The others looked pathetic and juvenile while constantly on the defensive.

Posted by: david a dudenhoefer | January 19, 2012, 11:56 pm 11:56 pm

Once again, the media is showing its bias against Ron Paul. Shame on you!

Posted by: john locke | January 20, 2012, 12:13 am 12:13 am

You must have been watching a different debate. Ron Paul is very relevant in South Carolina. First, as being the only candidate up there with a military background. As I am sure you know, no candidate without previous military experience has won the South Carolina Primary since the 80′s. Also, South Carolina is full of evangelicals and is a prevalent part of the Bible Belt. Romney is a Morman. Evangelical Christians view Mormonism as a cult. Gingrich and Santorum are Catholics. Evangelical Christians don’t like Catholics. Gingrich’s marriage history seriously hurts him with “family value” Christians. Ron Paul is a Southern Baptist. Evangelicals like Baptists. You are very mistaken Ron Paul is very relevant is South Carolina.

Posted by: Corey | January 20, 2012, 12:26 am 12:26 am

This important article is very poorly put together. By the way, great subliminal snapshot with three of the four candidates — way to be ethically balanced at a time when media bias is fomenting much dissent among the public.

Posted by: ryan | January 20, 2012, 12:27 am 12:27 am

ABC, your idea of objective journalism is a JOKE. I want this article rewritten so I and millions of other Americans aren’t subjected to your ever so predictable dogmatic banter.

Posted by: Jose | January 20, 2012, 12:33 am 12:33 am

Is there some reason why the media decides to cut RON PAUl from everything. I mean come on, 3 out of 4 candidates?!?!?! Why are Americans so afraid of the TRUTH A.K.A. Ron Paul. Why would we want a mediocre President, when we can have an exceptional, outstanding, honest, & the list goes on & on. Ron Paul could be our last chance to SAVE AMERICA, & turn it around for the better. Goverment needs to get out of our Lives. If Ron Paul doesnt get elected, I wouldnt be surprised if years from now, the goverment requires us to have microchips implanted so they can monitor our every move (which they probably already do). Please WAKE UP AMERICA!!!!! VOTE RON PAUL 2012

Posted by: Sarah | January 20, 2012, 12:39 am 12:39 am

Are you kidding ABC? Ron Paul owned the debate and stole the show. Ron’s response to the immigration question was a slam dunk. Did you even watch the debate?

Posted by: Matt | January 20, 2012, 12:45 am 12:45 am

Stop being mean to Dr. Paul

Posted by: Sandy | January 20, 2012, 12:46 am 12:46 am

I thought Ron Paul won the debate tonight. Newt was good in the first 5 minutes and then slid down hill. Santorum is just a plain all out wack job. Romney was unmemorable. Ron Paul slammed Santorum into the ground when he had to school him on the right to life/abortion issue. Made Santorum look ignorant and clueless.

Posted by: Lacey O'Rourke | January 20, 2012, 12:57 am 12:57 am

Come on ABC news – you can do better than that! Dr. Ron Paul clearly won the debate. I like how they gave the MSM a loser mark. Wtf?

Posted by: Cuethenewt | January 20, 2012, 1:17 am 1:17 am

Ron Paul BY FAR won this debate. How can you say he faded into the background when he has even the audience shouting to hear his message?!

Posted by: Dillon | January 20, 2012, 1:20 am 1:20 am

The economy – it’s on every Americans mind as shown by several polls. It is the issue that should be talked about the most. Where was it on tonight’s debate? But in other topics, abortion. Paul is correct on this one. No matter how much Santorum, Romney or Gingrich (or for that matter die hard core Republicans) want abortion to be outlawed – it won’t be unless the morals of society change. Enacting a law banning abortion will not change the morals of society. Period! What it will do (as has been proven in the past) is create and underground network of illegal “abortion clinics” that really don’t have the best interests of the patients in mind.

Posted by: ThePongster | January 20, 2012, 1:28 am 1:28 am

Romney is the Best candidate for the future of the economy and the nation. We NEED SOMEONE from outside Washington to correct Washington. Romney is the Right leader. The debates are too limited in their scope to be the decider. But having looked at depth at each candidate’s record and proposals, I continue to enthusiastically support Romney

Posted by: OscarHerbert | January 20, 2012, 1:35 am 1:35 am

Really abc …. Cant even show Dr.Paul in the pick at the beginning of the article …. not to mention that Ron Paul had on of the stronger performances in the evening … your prejudice i find appalling and expect more from someone calling themselves a “news” organization…..

Posted by: William | January 20, 2012, 1:35 am 1:35 am

Give it a few more weeks and Ron Paul will sink back into the shadows where he belongs.

Posted by: Ricky Bobby | January 20, 2012, 1:47 am 1:47 am

It’s up to us now…. the Ron Paul supporters to get his message out! We know who we are and how many other people will support Ron Paul if he could get the same chance to get his message out like any other candidate who has had the success that he has had. All of us who have been reading, and trolling the internet to find a glimps of fairness from the media for Ron Paul only to inevitably be disappointed, frustrated, angered and appauled by media bias…and it is not imagined. I have always been a liberal progressive..i voted for our current President but will not vote for him again, and will definitely won’t vote for any of the other republican candidated or Obama again for that matter. I don’t believe in everything that Paul stands for politically, but I do believe in him. That is the beauty of his message of freedom and the constitution, that there is room for so many different people under his platform, and why he can beat Obama.
So here is what I am saying.
We need to have a rally on Washington D.C. to make the status quo know that we will not be silenced. If all of the people who post comments that support Dr. Paul and his message and movement can make this happen it would be amazing. Imagine 500,000 or more uniting to make ourselves heard. It’s time…it needs to happen!!! We are watching something bigger than we can imagine develope with Dr. Pauls message, but it’s up to us! He needs us to do something like this and soon. Spread the word and idea…let’s make it go viral on the internet. Post the idea everywhere you read about Paul. JUST IMAGINE THE MESSAGE AND ENERGY WE WILL CREATE. LET’S DO THIS. AMERICA NEEDS RON PAUL. WE THE PEOPLE CAN CHANGE HISTORY. MAKE IT HAPPEN.

Posted by: jon | January 20, 2012, 1:47 am 1:47 am

Quit being so obvious about yours and all the other mainstream medias bias against Dr. Paul, it isn’t working and all you’re doing is making the people marginalize YOU and expose your true intentions even more!

Posted by: Meridith | January 20, 2012, 1:51 am 1:51 am

@Jon-so you are proposing a Million White Man March (we are talking about Ron ‘I didn’t write racist newsletters I just published them under my own name’ Paul here)?

Posted by: Ricky Bobby | January 20, 2012, 1:53 am 1:53 am

Wow, Bias ABC. I need to find a better news source. Be fair to all candidates, how about that for a change?

Posted by: KENNY | January 20, 2012, 2:09 am 2:09 am

I loved the boos to the commentator. I would hope they would let the only doctor on stage speak about HIS field!
If paul gets the republican nomination, the media, obama, musleums, and telepromptors around the world will be sad.
Because they will look so bad when Dr. Paul speaks the truth and they try to remember which audience they are speaking to and which lie to tell.
Restore america, restore our dollar, restore our freedom RON PAUL 2012

Posted by: danny | January 20, 2012, 2:22 am 2:22 am

The reporter is right about Ron Paul fading into the background, but there’s a good reason for it. The other three, Santorun, Romney and Gingrich, just didn’t want Dr. Paul to have a chance to wipe the floor with them. Those three could not debate with Ron Paul. If you’ve watched any of the previous debates, anyone that has challenged Ron Paul, has been easily beaten. The only reason the others have dropped out is because they couldn’t effectively debate with Ron Paul. He outclassed them and made them seem idiotic. That’s exactly how Santorum seemed towards the end… idiotic after he was called out as being overly sensitive by Ron Paul.

Posted by: John | January 20, 2012, 2:23 am 2:23 am

AMERICA..WAKE UP, THE ONLY REASON RAUL PAUL ISNT MAINSTREAMING BECAUSE PEOPLE CANT HANDLE THE TRUTH, THATS WHAT OUR PROBLEM IS NOW LOOK AT HOW THIS COUNTRY HAS ENDED UP, PURE LIES TELLING US THAT EVERYTHINGS OKAY WHEN ITS NOT. PERIOD POINT BLANK. WAKE UP SMELL THE COFFEE
RON PAUL : CHANGE AND TRUTH FOR 2012

Posted by: hethaaa | January 20, 2012, 2:53 am 2:53 am

I studied journalism in college. You people are so biased against Dr. Paul. Weird. You people are frauds and hacks!!

Posted by: Robert Dzik | January 20, 2012, 3:36 am 3:36 am

Amy did you notice when the crowd forced the moderator to ask Ron Paul about his stance on abortion? If you can say he is a loser, It makes you look like a l o s e r.
This is what came up when I tried to post this “You are posting comments too quickly. Slow down.” Coming from ABC who posted that Ron Paul is a loser and “a sign that his relevance in this state is much more limited.” before the vote. I’d say The Author should slow down, and posted this statement too quickly.

Posted by: Tim Washburn | January 20, 2012, 3:42 am 3:42 am

Wow, Abc, you cant be anymore obvious on your article from the picture depicting only 3 of the 4 candidates to you claiming paul was a loser. The crowd booing the moderator to let him talk says otherwise, along with several stellar answers. Fail biased journalism, if you can call this journalism. You should be ashamed of what you are trying to do!

Posted by: Zm | January 20, 2012, 3:47 am 3:47 am

I find ABC’s monitoring of the comments interesting too, Mr. Tim Washburn. I have been trying to post my comment repeatedly and repeatedly ABC claims I am posting a duplicate comment. Huh…then where is my comment, ABC biased?

Posted by: WAKEUP | January 20, 2012, 3:50 am 3:50 am

Wow ABC, your reporters need to be fired. I don’t know what debate they were watching, but the debate I saw showed a clear victory for Dr. Ron Paul.

Posted by: Ken Bradshaw | January 20, 2012, 3:56 am 3:56 am

Amy Walter – you are a hack, mouth piece for the globalists aren’t you? You should list a disclaimer that your “bosses” will not let you write the truth…that Ron Paul spiked the ball and danced in the end zone tonight. The other 3 shills on stage are being exposed for what they are. Good luck in finding another line of work when the tide turns. Hint: The tide has already started to turn…The People are rising from their media induced slumber. Ron Paul is the only presidential candidate in this race, period.
“I fear all we have done is to awaken a sleeping giant and fill him with a terrible resolve.”
- Isoroku Yamamoto

Posted by: Kenny | January 20, 2012, 4:00 am 4:00 am

Ron Paul wants to end all the wars immediately and bring all the soldiers back home from all 900 bases in 130 different countries. He said he would use some of the money saved to support social security and medicare. And…the voters don’t want that?

Ron Paul wants to completely dismantle the Federal Reserve and return us to the gold standard so that our money has value again. And…the voters don’t want that?

Ron Paul wants to end the Patriot Act immediately. And…the voters don’t want that?

Ron Paul wants to secure our borders with the soldiers brought back from wars. And…the voters don’t want that?

Ron Paul wants to end the drug war and make the states responsible for regulating drugs. And…the voters don’t want that?

Ron Paul wants to dismantle the Department of Education and make the states responsible for educating the children in their states. And…the voters don’t want that?

Ron Paul wants to get rid of property taxes so that our properties completely belong to us. And…the voters don’t want that?

Ron Paul wants to get rid of most of the regulations on business so that businesses will come back to the US. And…the voters don’t want that?

Goodness! What DO the voters want? Are they looking for just another shameless liar? If so, Ron Paul is NOT their man. Are they looking for someone who is “in bed” with the mass media, big business, and “the Bilderberg Group”? If So, Ron Paul is NOT their man. Ron Paul doesn’t even participate in the government retirement plan.

Ron Paul has spoken the same message for 30 years! He has consistently voted against big government. He wants what I want for us. He wants the Federal Government to stay out of our lives and he wants LIBERTY to pursue a better life. And…the voters don’t want that?

Experience. Ron Paul has been in Congress since 1976. This is part of his voting record:

Ron never voted for raising taxes.
Ron never voted for the Patriot Act
Ron never voted to raise the debt ceiling
Ron never voted to go to war in Iraq and all the other places
Ron never voted to use your tax dollars to bail out the banks
Ron has introduced term limit legislation but has been denied by the rest of Congress
Ron does not participate in the congressional pension plan.
Ron returns a portion of his congressional office budget to the Treasury every year
Ron never voted for an unbalanced budget
Ron never voted for a federal restriction on gun ownership
Ron voted against NAFTA and CAFTA
Ron and he voted against the NDAA
Ron has always wanted to reduce our massive spending by stopping these useless wars.
Ron will get rid of foreign aid
Ron will help audit then gradually abolish the Federal Reserve so we can return to a sound currency
Ron will enforce immigration law and close the border with Mexico
Ron is against the useless war on drugs that jails non violent criminals while the justice system allows murderers, rapists, and child molesters to get out early
Ron is against the income tax
Ron will get rid of the IRS
Ron has never taken a government-paid junket
Ron will reduce regulation so companies come back to the United States and create more jobs
Ron once offered $100 of his own money and told the rest of Congress to do the same to pay for the Congressional Medal of Honor given to Rosa Parks. No one joined him despite Congressmen earning a base salary of 174K a year.

Ron Paul is the only GOP candidate who has served in the armed forces and is the only one who wants to stop the wars. Romney and the others have never served and are happy to send your sons and daughters to useless wars. This is why the media has ignored Ron Paul. If every single person spreads this message, we can get Ron in the White House. We already know that the other candidates are just more of the same government spending, more wars, and more taxes. Vote RON PAUL 2012 GOP PRIMARY!!!!!!!!!!!! Or America as we know it, will be no more.

Posted by: Freedom | January 20, 2012, 4:05 am 4:05 am

It’s easy to see why Jon Stewart is considered the nation’s leading journalist. The major network “news” is a joke.

Posted by: Chris Sarns | January 20, 2012, 4:14 am 4:14 am

even newt knows that the best defense is offense. in this debate, newt went on a fiery offense. apparently newt’s offense responding to king’s question played well in the audience but if the take a second to reflect newt played it well by deflecting all onto the media. newt is still a troll.

Posted by: david | January 20, 2012, 4:23 am 4:23 am

Obviously, I have been following all the debates and supported Mitt Romney in 2008 for nominee – so I’ve already firmly made up my mind on who is the best candidate for leadership on the economy.

But I’ll try and be objective.

Mitt gave some good answers but the tax returns question he could have been better prepared. Let me help Mitt out with this answer:

George H. W. Bush, Reagan, Clinton, Carter – all released ONLY 1 year of tax returns prior to their election to the Presidency.

During the course of their Presidency they released their tax returns every year.

That’s the standard amongst both Republicans and Democrats.

Posted by: Romney Supporter | January 20, 2012, 4:56 am 4:56 am

This is not news, this is propoganda. It is truly sad to see such outright disregard for ethics and objectivity by ABC. I will no longer be visiting your site. Ron Paul 2012

Posted by: Erik | January 20, 2012, 5:02 am 5:02 am

Winners: President Obama. Watching these candidates snipe at each other exposes them to the hypocrisy they all are guilty of. Gingrich lambasted Clinton over marital infidelity while he was doing the same as Clinton. Romney hasn’t learned how to say, yeah I’m rich, live with it. Not releasing tax returns this far into the process shows he’s not ready for prime time. Santorum is the American Taliban. A true believer and a very scary guy. Ron Paul is Alice in Wonderland’s Caterpillar but he won’t have the opportunity to teach Americans anything because he won’t get elected.
Losers: The American People. Between a dysfunctional president who’s just not very good at forming doable proposals and articulating his message or any substantive strategic thinking and a slew of Republicans that aren’t worthy of hall monitor, the American people are basically screwed.

Posted by: woody3691 | January 20, 2012, 5:31 am 5:31 am

It is obvious that ABC is rooting for Mittens, and that Amy was watching a different debate. Where as Santorium was aggressive he certainly did not seem polished, and Romney seems like a nervous wreck. The truth is every time these four take center stage President Obama is the winner. I hope Newt wins South Carolina so this clown show will continue. To all you Ron Paul supporters, you have as good of chance of being elected as Dr Paul.

Posted by: Jim | January 20, 2012, 5:41 am 5:41 am

Are family will mot be watching CBS any longer because THEY are irrelevant.

Posted by: Maureen Varner | January 20, 2012, 6:11 am 6:11 am

No, no, no.
Gingrich evaded the question by blaming the media.

There was absolutely nothing wrong with opening with this question, CNN. You acted properly as a responsible news organization even if Fox News criticized you for it.

If Mr. Gingrich is unable to answer that question with a reasonable answer and not resorting to attacking the media, this already evidences he is not the person to occupy the Oval Office because Marianne is correct, his morality is already an issue.

He should be deeply ashamed for the pain and suffering he caused her and he failed to even acknowledge that – which IS the legal trend for most men in the United States.

And this single thing – this domestic issue is the costliest problem we face every day because these American men are so shallow, unable to keep their pants zipped up and use their minds as well as other parts of their bodies.

And why a majority of United States families languish in financial problems.
If you don’t like regurgitated what the actual facts are – then you have no business being president of the United States.

Beyond that – Mr. Romney knows that it is not legally required for him to disclose his tax information at the behest of voters that are demanding it any more than they should be compelled by the public to do so.

You all are just being nosy.

He and Mr. Santorum are the best candidates we have remaining. I wouldn’t anger them. We have very little to choose from this year.

Posted by: GingrichNot | January 20, 2012, 6:19 am 6:19 am

What an inane article! Ron Paul clearly won the debate. The author of this article must be on crack.

Posted by: AO | January 20, 2012, 6:39 am 6:39 am

Paul may have his base, but they’ll never get him the nomination far less the general election. His view of foreign policy is simply whacko. Then again, ANY candidate from the Republican side should win in a landslide against Barack. If he’s held to account for his record, voters won’t be fooled again. This president is not iinterested in creating jobs. His policies and spending make that clear. Wise up, America!

Posted by: s | January 20, 2012, 6:42 am 6:42 am

I see the Pauloids are out in force; those implanted chips really work well now, don’t they? More broadly, it really is hilarious how the Republicans – and particularly the far right – have completely failed to come up with a remotely credible candidate; when the most rational candidate apparently believes the fantasies of a polygamous conman about ancient Israelites sailing to America, the moral and intellectual bankruptcy of the American right is manifest. I haven’t had so much fun watching US politics from across the pond since Watergate!

Posted by: KG | January 20, 2012, 6:47 am 6:47 am

>The elder statesman RON PAUL DOMINATED tonight. The others looked pathetic and juvenile while constantly on the defensive.
>Posted by: david a dudenhoefer | January 19, 2012, 11:56 pm 11:56 pm

If by “elder stateman” you mean “addled old fart”, yes he is.

What a bunch of clowns. They’re telling us the Republicans don’t want the Presidency in these challenging times, the same message that was sent out in 2008 when the grifter from Wasila was chosen as McCain’s VP running mate.

Posted by: Sue Donum | January 20, 2012, 6:50 am 6:50 am

This is ridiculous. You don’t even show Ron Paul in the picture. Let me tell you, the mainstream media will collapse. Give it a few more generations of self educated people who know how to get their information from other sources and all of you wrongly named news people will be out of a job. This debate was a joke. It was formatted in a way to encourage rambling about nonsense between the three stooges. It was frankly disgusting. But your days are numbered ABC, for you and all of the mainstream media.

Posted by: leonmaderas | January 20, 2012, 6:54 am 6:54 am

Wow, I could not beleive the distorted coverage I’ve been seeing of the remaining candidates. There are always only 3 candidates mentioned (or shown pictured as in the one above) when there are 4 still standing. How in the world can the media get away with this?

I am truly embarrassed to be an American with all the bickering and dirty politics that I saw tonight. I wonder what the rest of the world thinks of us. Clearly, the only candidate that did not participate in the verbal food fight was a man who is obviously above it all. Too wise to stoop to their level, too smart to play the “game”, an most importantly, not in their position to where he has to.

Touche Dr Paul, you are a shining beacon and an exemplary example of what it means to be a first class citizen of the United States of America. You are Presidential material indeed.

Posted by: mediamadness | January 20, 2012, 7:00 am 7:00 am

>Give it a few more generations of self educated people who know how to get their information from other sources and all of you wrongly named news people will be out of a job.

People like you get played like a cheap ukulele by “other sources” and you thank them for it. You must have started out home schooled in the bumpkin belt. It’s really too funny just how stupid and backward the U.S. has become in the last 30 years to so.

People will be reporting the news long after you are composted away. to nothing.

Posted by: GeebusRubsMeh | January 20, 2012, 7:09 am 7:09 am

Unbelievale, the media biased is beyond being a joke, it is absurd. Ron Paul 2012!!!! Ronpaul2012.com for real information on the debates…These other three clowns are nothing but phonies, as the media backs them proving the media is about lies and manipulation…America needs to vote Ron Paul 2012!

Posted by: Larry | January 20, 2012, 7:11 am 7:11 am

The winner was the American people because the loser was President Obama. When the people see what a President sounds like President Obama loses!

Posted by: Common _ Sense | January 20, 2012, 7:23 am 7:23 am

The amount of bias against Ron Paul was amazing. Even the picture on this page has all the other candidates except Ron Paul. CNN should not sponsor debates if they have an agenda to try to eliminate a candidate. That is up to the voters. And I don’t even like Paul.

Posted by: Marc Perkel | January 20, 2012, 7:34 am 7:34 am

Dr. Ron Paul came out of the debate looking like the only distinguished, decent, honest and admirable gentleman who should be the Republican nominee. The others had too much baggage and are unelectable against Obama. Republicans will make a big mistake by putting forward either a “vulture capitalist”who destroyed jobs or a “hypocritical womanizer” who crucified Bill Clinton while doing the same or a” fanatical and corrupt right winger” who will never get the independent votes.

Posted by: Girish | January 20, 2012, 7:35 am 7:35 am

MEDIAMADNESS: “I wonder what the rest of the world thinks of us.” – I don’t know about the whole world but here in the UK we’re praying for another four years for Obama. All of the current crop of Republican candidates are seen as scary and dangerous people. And that most definitely includes Ron Paul. Apart from the doolally foreign policies this man is proposing he is a Creationist. It’s the 2st century and the idea of America being led by someone who rejects one of the most proven theories in the history of science in favour of a 2,000 year old fairy story is ridiculous. Creationism isn’t taken at all seriously here and its exponents (I’ve never actually met one here) are laughed at.

Posted by: 2hundredthousand | January 20, 2012, 7:35 am 7:35 am

Gingrich evaded the question by blaming the media. How does that make him a winner? How does that change his character issues?

Posted by: Lois | January 20, 2012, 7:36 am 7:36 am

It was a great question that he was ready for but it was still fun to watch an arrogant cusshead squirm. Heat meet Newt. How’s the kitchen Newt? Right at home obviously.

Posted by: sameagain | January 20, 2012, 7:41 am 7:41 am

He is a serial hypocrite and philanderer. He has been the only speaker to be unseated by his colleagues. Imagine that, corrupt politicians consider you so corrupt they have to unseat you?

Posted by: LenGrady75 | January 20, 2012, 7:41 am 7:41 am

You can try to be biased against Ron Paul in every article, but you can’t censor the truth that lies in the comments of every article.

Posted by: KuMarKia | January 20, 2012, 8:08 am 8:08 am

Excellent job putting the so-called media in their place Newt!!

I understand why they say liberals are absolutely terrified of Newt having to debate Obama. Newt would destroy him on stage so bad that Obama would have to resign on the spot.

As for the obvious bias against Ron Paul that is written in this very article, disgusting.

Posted by: stew | January 20, 2012, 8:09 am 8:09 am

ABC has apparently learned “Fair and Balanced” from the masters at Fox News. Three candidates squabble, and this is an indictment of the fourth candidate!? If Ron Paul’s views are so outside the mainstream and as unacceptable to American voters as you imply, all you’d need to do is present them clearly and fairly. I think it is telling that you are attacking him in such a backhanded way, which would not be necessary if the rest of your Paul narrative were true. Paul is the only candidate on the stage speaking to real issues. How do any of these other clowns hope to prevent America from bankrupting itself with wars and welfare?

Posted by: Ron | January 20, 2012, 8:17 am 8:17 am

So the only adult on the stage was a loser? RP dominated this contest and thank the Almighty that the crowd was paying attention and prompted the moderator to allow him to speak on several occasions! He’s a doctor, let him speak on Obamacare and prolife! Sheesh!
We are at the stage where the establishment have all guns pointed and firing. The freedom movement cannot be stopped! Viva la revolution!!!

Posted by: Sandor Bors | January 20, 2012, 8:28 am 8:28 am

The media is really really starting to bother me now it’s like they know how to get focus from people who support ron paul by purposely leaving him out, touche by doing this gets more people aware though.

Posted by: openUreyes | January 20, 2012, 8:34 am 8:34 am

“….a sign that his relevance in this state is much more limited.” Calling Ron Paul a loser in the debate? REALLY?!! Then WHY did the crowd DEMAND that the moderator allow DOCTOR RON PAUL to answer a question on ABORTION?!?!?! If they really feel that he has no “relevancy” then why did they want to hear from him? AND not only that but he got some pretty big cheers and applause from the crowd too on all his other answers! This writer is SO BIASED, it is so OBVIOUS!!!!

Posted by: Heather Ingram | January 20, 2012, 8:47 am 8:47 am

ABC – be aware that you are one of the big losers because of your transparent attempts to inject your brand of “journalism” into the debate. Look around today to see how you are being properly excoriated for your blatant misjudgement.

As for the “esteemed” and cryptic Ron Paul – he is irrelevant. His supporters are existing in a world of fantasy if they believe that he could function effectively as president. He belongs in a den somewhere telling vague stories of how things used to be.

Posted by: TWD73 | January 20, 2012, 9:37 am 9:37 am

OMG the Ron Paulers need to get over it! They are every single news site – including Fox – complaining that Ron Paul is not given fair coverage in every article out there about last night. They are not covering him because he is irrelevant!!!!! He doesn’t have a snowball’s chance in hell, so what is the point wasting any print on him? Admit it…..not a snowball’s chance, even if hell was hit by an unseasonable blizzard!!!!! Now stop whining and get him in the race as a 3rd party candidate. Obama is being handed the election anyhow….might as well make it entertaining to watch!

Posted by: Philly Mike | January 20, 2012, 9:41 am 9:41 am

This is about the 50 th News Article that is totally wrong about Ron Paul. Lets see the Crowd went Wild all night for Dr Paul but he is the Big loser and does not even need to be in the Headline photo. We are getting tired of this Crap you call news I call it Lies. If you are a Political Director you need to be Fired for reporting this Garbage! Americans can see what you are Doing and we are tired of it!! it is so obvious and at this point the more you unfairly report the stronger we get and the more angry. Have you ever thought that maybe a report about the 4 South Carolina Senators that have endorsed Paul may be something to report to the People? That is good Journalism!

Posted by: Steve | January 20, 2012, 9:57 am 9:57 am

ABC is the biggest loser. For starters, John King is married to Dana Bash…

Second, Ron Paul won this debate. Here’s why:

Ron Paul has been the most consistent and knowledgable voice on the issue of abortion. Many people don’t know that “Ron Paul wrote a book in 1983 entitled Abortion and Liberty where he discusses the ramifications of the heinous act of the murder of innocents. Ronald Reagan’s Surgeon General, C. Everett Koop wrote the forward where he praises Paul’s thoughtful position on this issue and its impact on the natural rights of men.”

Ron Paul’s consistency on issues flies in the face of the hypocricy of the other candidates. His stance is to return the abortion issue back to the States because he believes it is a States issue and not Federal. Thus, in one swoop, Roe vs. Wade would be overturned. Pretty clever, eh?

But, Santorum who criticized Ron Paul for not voting at the Federal level on an issue, voted against “Right to Work” because it went against what his State did. This is where a shining light shows the difference between Ron Paul and Santorum. Ron Paul votes his convictions consistently, Santorum would vote against his convictions because as he said “I was representing my State…” And, what if Pennsylvania was for abortion, or for gun control, I wonder what would Santorum have voted?

BTW, I live in Texas and know someone who was delivered by Ron Paul when he was a doctor. Pretty cool to think that an ex-doctor and possible next President brought life into the world instead of taking it away. Ron Paul is very Pro-Life, which is why he is also against unjust and unconstitutional wars, though that is another topic, but on the point of how much this man cherishes life (liberty and the pursuit of happiness)!

Ron Paul 2012. The only honest and sane candidate there is.

Posted by: Thomas Martin | January 20, 2012, 10:03 am 10:03 am

ABC must be scared crapless of the mommentum Ron Paul is gaining. This article is proof of the fear the liberal mainstream media has that Ron Paul has a great chance of winning and changing America back to what it was meant to be. Sorry bias like this is why we don’t support ABC, CNN and the rest of the pathetic crap that passes for journalism.

Posted by: Larry Dodson | January 20, 2012, 10:06 am 10:06 am

Dr. Paul didn’t fade into the background, he was PLACED there. That’s okay though; sometimes the more you try to keep something so obvious hidden, the more curious people become. Ron Paul 2012

Posted by: Cassie Gilmore | January 20, 2012, 10:14 am 10:14 am

Are the networks being paid off to minimize Ron Paul’s involvement? It sure looks that way. This is the kind of thing you see in a 3rd world un democratic country. This is beyond being a poor product of reporting. Integrity in journalism must now be questioned. This reminds me of “The Shutout” in the movie The Sting.

Posted by: Andy hrehorovich | January 20, 2012, 11:09 am 11:09 am

Remember the “Shutout” in the movie The Sting? Well that’s what they are doing to Dr. Paul.

Posted by: Andy hrehorovich | January 20, 2012, 11:20 am 11:20 am

Well, the GOP is truly stuck between a rock and a hard place! Making angry, childish, narcissistic, immoral, loose-cannon Gingrich the nominee would be a wonderful gift for Obama. Santorum is a religious extremist who wants to live in a theocracy and is therefore unfit for POTUS. Paul has no chance to win. So, we’re left with Mitt, who has the best chance to beat Obama in November. Do we all just hold our noses and vote for Mitt as the default nominee???

Posted by: Bobby Jo | January 20, 2012, 11:45 am 11:45 am

Where is The 4th candidate in the photo?

Posted by: Andy hrehorovich | January 20, 2012, 11:48 am 11:48 am

Did you guys write this before the debate and forget to update it? I liked Huntsman and didn’t buy all the crying about the Paul coverage but come on. You didn’t put him in the picture and I believe he was the only one who didn’t get booed last night.

Posted by: Andrew | January 20, 2012, 11:50 am 11:50 am

Ron Paul a loser?!? I live 5 minutes from the North Charleston Coliseum in the great state of South Carolina. You wouldn’t even need to walk as far as the parking lot to know that you’re absolutely misguided. Paul finished #1, with Santorum suprisingly close. Romney and Gingrich are done. Why isn’t Paul in the picture?!? Thank you for letting me know where ABC stands. Add you to my list of news I can’t trust.

SHAME ON YOU, AMY WALTER! SHAME ON YOU, AMY WALTER! SHAME ON YOU, AMY WALTER! SHAME ON YOU, AMY WALTER! SHAME ON YOU, AMY WALTER! SHAME ON YOU, AMY WALTER! SHAME ON YOU, AMY WALTER! SHAME ON YOU, AMY WALTER! SHAME ON YOU, AMY WALTER! SHAME ON YOU, AMY WALTER! SHAME ON YOU, AMY WALTER! SHAME ON YOU, AMY WALTER! SHAME ON YOU, AMY WALTER! SHAME ON YOU, AMY WALTER! SHAME ON YOU, AMY WALTER! SHAME ON YOU, AMY WALTER! SHAME ON YOU, AMY WALTER! SHAME ON YOU, AMY WALTER! SHAME ON YOU, AMY WALTER! SHAME ON YOU, AMY WALTER! SHAME ON YOU, AMY WALTER! SHAME ON YOU, AMY WALTER! SHAME ON YOU, AMY WALTER! SHAME ON YOU, AMY WALTER! SHAME ON YOU, AMY WALTER! SHAME ON YOU, AMY WALTER! SHAME ON YOU, AMY WALTER! SHAME ON YOU, AMY WALTER! SHAME ON YOU, AMY WALTER! SHAME ON YOU, AMY WALTER!

Posted by: SvSC | January 20, 2012, 12:09 pm 12:09 pm

It won’t be long all of you MSM idiots will be looking for a new job. See you on the streets!

Ron Paul 2012!

Posted by: Big T | January 20, 2012, 12:19 pm 12:19 pm

Why is Ron Paul still being ignored and counted out? This blatant media bias is utterly ridiculous! Report ALL of the news!

Posted by: Jimbo Slice | January 20, 2012, 12:22 pm 12:22 pm

ABC is a joke. That picture of 3 of the 4 candidates sums it up!

Posted by: Ehren Larsen | January 20, 2012, 12:37 pm 12:37 pm

ABC, CNN, FOX… you are all a JOKE. It is so sad how BIASED our news stations are in the United States. Americans are supposed to be able to rely on your “news” in order to make an educated vote for the next president. THERE ARE FOUR CANDIDATES, STOP BLATANTLY IGNORING RON PAUL. Especially when it is so obvious that he is the most consistent and honest candidate, and many people, like myself, respect such qualities in a future president. We should not have to TELL A NEWS STATION TO PROVIDE UNBIASED, FAIR COVERAGE OF ALL THE CANDIDATES.

Posted by: Jessica | January 20, 2012, 12:58 pm 12:58 pm

It just goes to show people that they have no integrity and will stoop to any low to follow there agenda.The mainstream has no honor!!

Posted by: Cukester | January 20, 2012, 1:04 pm 1:04 pm

It just goes to show people that they have no integrity and will stoop to any low to follow there agenda.The mainstream has no honor.P.S. you call that analysis I could get better analysis from a 5 yr old…

Posted by: Cukester | January 20, 2012, 1:09 pm 1:09 pm

Shame on you for your one sided news reporting.

Posted by: Thompson | January 20, 2012, 1:39 pm 1:39 pm

They’re all losers. I would go further and say they are all bunch of stinkers, a cast of clowns. What has happened to the Republican party? They are all competing to be the nuttiest to appeal to the extreme far right. In the middle you have “Silver Spoon” Mitt pretending to know what it’s like to be middle class American, and flanking each side you have Rick “I want to control your body” Santorum, and Newt “I’ll say anything” Gingrich. Is there no limit of kookiness that the typical died in the wool Republican will scarf up?

Posted by: Disclaimer | January 20, 2012, 1:55 pm 1:55 pm

The biggest loser in the debate was CNN.
Once again they discredit themselves shamelessly.

Posted by: Bonny | January 20, 2012, 2:15 pm 2:15 pm

Newt stole the show last night!!! THAT is the headline today, THAT is what people are talking about! It appears that the comment section of this article has been hijacked by Paulbots. Paul was not the story last night. Stop drinking Kool-Aid, people!

Posted by: DaveB | January 20, 2012, 2:47 pm 2:47 pm

CNN and ABC were both losers last night. I feel Newt Gingrich was the winner. I also agree with others that Dr. Paul was not treated fairly. In one instance John King was going to completely ignore him until the audience came to his defense. I seldom watch anything on ABC and very little except Soledad OBrien on CNN. I don’t plan on ever watching anything in any category (movies, news, sports, etc.) on ABC again. When George Stephanopoulos apparently tried to “trash” Rick Santorum by bringing up the birth control issue I lost all respect for ABC. Last night was the final nail in the coffin for ABC in my house. I don’t plan on watching anything by John King in the future either. He should have known better than doing what he did. I think it was totally unprofessional. Thank God for Fox News. I’ll be the first to admit that a couple of the Fox anchors believe they’re God’s gift to the news industry and their heads are so swollen they can’t walk through a doorway, but overall they are many excellent anchors. I thought when Dan Rather tried to ambush political candidates that things couldn’t get worse. Now I think ABC has stooped lower than CBS and Rather.

Posted by: Bobby Payne | January 20, 2012, 3:03 pm 3:03 pm

Newt is a serial philanderer, Romney hides money in the Cayman Islands, Santorum thinks earmarks are great and Paul wants to legalize coke and meth. Where do the republicans get their candidates from, Lewisburg State Penitentiary?

Posted by: tmferretti | January 20, 2012, 3:09 pm 3:09 pm

It looks like the 3 guys in the photo belong to the same club getting ready to continue clubbing the American people senseless.

Posted by: Andy hrehorovich | January 20, 2012, 3:53 pm 3:53 pm

I don’t understand how anyone could consider Paul the loser of this debate, he really did a good job getting his points across.

Posted by: Joshua | January 20, 2012, 4:58 pm 4:58 pm

Where is the photo of all participants?

How could you consider a winner when you are constantly defending your stance.

Paul doesn’t need to defend his stance. There is no grey area with this man.

Posted by: Grant | January 20, 2012, 5:03 pm 5:03 pm

Dear Ms. Walter, what a juvenile display of reasoning you have shown. “Bow down before the ones you serve.” What you call faded, I call an inability for them to bring up issues against him.

Posted by: Joseph C Carbone III | January 20, 2012, 5:07 pm 5:07 pm

Who is ron Paul?

Posted by: Hi | January 20, 2012, 5:40 pm 5:40 pm

Big surprise. Abortion was mentioned 16 times and infrastructive not even once. And these guys still do not care about jobs.

Posted by: CarolO | January 20, 2012, 6:03 pm 6:03 pm

Newt got 1 big cheer in the beginning, after he pulled the victim card.
after that it was like three stooges doing there routine while Ron Paul delivered a message. Ron Paul got more applause than all the other candidates throughout the entire debate. Whereas, Newt, fizzled out after the first cheer. Yet, all you hear is the same 1 sound byte. I keep hearing how Ron Paul addressed military benefits. that was one question of of about 10. Fox, ABC, CBS, CNN they are the big loosers. Wake up conservatives, Rush, Kristol, Beck, Hannity, Oreilly, Medved. these guys studied leo strauss and have high jacked your party long ago. and they think America needs a constant enemy to keep us patriotic and united. The doctors medicine might taste bad, but you have to take it if you want to get better. Dr. Paul 2012.

Posted by: tankman | January 20, 2012, 8:18 pm 8:18 pm

Ummm did we watch the same debate? Paul was brilliant and the others looked like baffoons.
Rick Santorum was talking with an expression like he thought he was going to get hit the whole night.
ABC isn’t real media it’s just another sellout outlet.

Posted by: Chasw | January 20, 2012, 9:48 pm 9:48 pm

It would appear that the author of this article did not watch the debate. She is simply following her directive from ABC. The other candidates tried not to engage Ron Paul because they cannot afford to at this point. The moderator getting booed at one point for not allowing Dr. Paul to answer a question that he just let the other three on stage speak at length on also showed what the MSM is concerned about… Ron Paul’s message of liberty is resonating with us. It’s true that “a nation of sheep will beget a government of wolves” but the people are waking up.

Posted by: John | January 20, 2012, 9:51 pm 9:51 pm

More and more Ron Paul looks totally out of place. Ron Paul looks like a college professor who accidently Stumbled into a kindergarden room. Ladies and Gentlemen, this is really embarrassing, like some kind of cheap reality show. This is a man who delivered more than 4,000 babies, refused the Medicaid payments and refused the gov pension and looks like he’s tired of getting his energy robbed by the mondanity of the 3 actors. Ron Paul is obviously the only candidate who does not pander to any party or to the news media. He has no hidden agenda or ulterior motives. Just to set things right.

Posted by: Andy hrehorovich | January 21, 2012, 12:18 am 12:18 am

Permit me to interject a bit of humor into all of this. After looking at the last 40 to 50 years and the trail that got us into this mess, I noticed something about human nature. Many of the voters remind me of a cat. A cat, all of a sudden, without warning, will spring up, run to the other side of the room, stop short and start licking itself. A few minutes later it will do it again. This reminds me of the mindless, covered over voters who do the same thing over and over again and help to perpetuate their misery. I think that they suffer from an unfortunate condition that’s spreading around. I think that their brains are too tense. Too tense the size of a normal brain. These are the types that will spring up and vote for one of the clones in the picture and Nazi the only choice, Ron Paul.

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room, stop short and start licking itself, seemingly forgetting why. After a few minutes the cat does it again.

Posted by: Andy Hrehorovich | January 21, 2012, 1:24 am 1:24 am

Didn’t you listen to ALL of the candidates last night Amy? Ron Paul brought up US foreign policy. He is against US taxpayer monies going to foreign countries when it’s needed so much right here in our own backyard. Why are you dessiminating erroneous information?

Posted by: Rosemary Mangino | January 21, 2012, 1:36 am 1:36 am

Why would you write an article that is completely false? A picture that only has three of the candidates shaking hands and you call this journalism. You should go and write for a tabloid magazine because you are not a convincing enough liar in trying to disparage Ron Paul who wiped the floor with the other candidates. I guess you must be deaf on top of devoid of brain cells and you did not hear the applause that shattered all the others. I guess Ron Paul really wasn’t there and they were cheering for you instead. But maybe only in your dreams. Get another job…obviously you are over qualified as a liar.

Posted by: James | January 21, 2012, 1:36 am 1:36 am

Why does not people understands that it would a drastic mistake be to vote for others instead of Mr Paul.

Posted by: Andy Hrehorovich | January 21, 2012, 2:05 am 2:05 am

Amy Walter – ABC’s political director.

Posted by: Dave | January 21, 2012, 3:18 am 3:18 am

There was a clear pattern where the other three candidates got into a three-way fight and Ron Paul stood quietly aside only to join in at the end with some sparkling logic and brilliant substance. I am surprised that Amy Walter thinks he was a loser. I would categorize Romney as the real loser in this debate as he looked flustered and lost that air of charm and invincibility. And it was really tiresome that he had to refer to President Obama on each response. Santorum did very well and so did Gingrich in their own ways. They are polished politicians esp Newt, unlike Dr. Paul who is a man of integrity and substance.

Posted by: Joy | January 21, 2012, 4:23 am 4:23 am

This reminds me of a Bizzaro comic book. Let me get this straight. The less integrity you can exhibit, the more positive press you amass and the more you impress the masses. This lack of integrity carries over to the press. In the real world, however, we have Ron Paul, with very little press coverage but high integrity. I don’t know about the rest of you but I don’t live in the Bizzaro world and can’t afford business as usual.

Posted by: Andy Hrehorovich | January 21, 2012, 11:13 am 11:13 am

President Obama constantly talks about, jobs, has submitted many jobs bills, stays on message, uses his executive authority to stimulate job growth and talks to the American people about the issues they care about. Why would anyone with half a brain vote for any of the republican candidates. Plus, who wouldn’t vote for a guy that can sing almost as well as Al Green?

Posted by: tmferretti | January 21, 2012, 11:15 am 11:15 am

Wait a minute! I just noticed this. Amy is the political director? Isn’t she the same girl as Inspector General of the Fed who could not track the missing 15 Trilion Dollars? Yes, that’s a T as in take. No wonder the’re pushing Ron Paul aside.

Posted by: Andy Hrehorovich | January 21, 2012, 1:10 pm 1:10 pm

Unbelievable, Even though Obama won an election with the empty rhetoric of Main St and Wall St. This was the perfect real life example of Main Street versus Wall Street. What the Press says happened and what the people perceived as what happened are opposite. If Ron Paul runs without his party’s nomination, would we have another voting scandal? Just how far does the Media expect to go with this smoke and mirrors? When what you see is not what your told you see, you must be living in the “American Dream”.

Posted by: Joseph Waters | January 21, 2012, 2:23 pm 2:23 pm

Ron Paul only fades in the background when you say he does. He won every confrontation with every other candidate. At one point the crowd chanted his name because CNN didn’t include him in a question. This bias is evident and you need to give Dr. Paul a chance with the American people. Without the media he has a legion of followers. With the media he can be our President.

Posted by: Kyle Schott | January 21, 2012, 5:59 pm 5:59 pm

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