Jan 20, 2012 7:00am

Nearly Half Call it Time for a Third Party; The Question: Whether They’d Support it

ABC News’ Damla Ergun and Gary Langer report: Nearly half of Americans say it’s time for a new major political party, and nearly seven in 10 say they’d at least consider voting for its candidate for president. But that leaves open whether such a candidate, if one emerges, could in fact break the habit of traditional party loyalties.

Other results in the latest ABC News/Washington Post poll suggest it’d be a challenge. Just 22 percent say they’d definitely support a third-party candidate, even given one “with whom you agree on most issues.” More, 28 percent, say they definitely would not support such a candidate, agreement on the issues notwithstanding. The rest would simply consider it.

Interest in a third-party candidate comes disproportionately from independents – a group that’s grown to record heights in recent years, but also that’s less likely to vote. Overall 48 percent of Americans think the country needs a third party, ranging from 61 percent of independents to 36 and 40 percent of Democrats and Republicans, respectively.

Moreover, fewer than one in three adults – 29 percent – feel “strongly” that a third party is needed, including fewer than half of independents, 40 percent. That raises the question of whether efforts to build one would have enough oomph to succeed.

This poll, produced for ABC by Langer Research Associates, also finds that even among independents, just 28 percent say they’d definitely vote for a third-party candidate with whom they agreed on most issues. That’s more than the share of Democrats or Republicans who say so (15 and 19 percent), but hardly an overwhelming show of support.

PAUL – An ABC/Post poll last month measured the potential effect of one third-party run, by current Republican candidate Ron Paul. Tested as an independent against Mitt Romney and Barack Obama, Paul drew 21 percent support, pulling 5 points from Obama but 16 from Romney.

That puts Paul at the high end of actual performance by third-party candidates – the recent best performance was Ross Perot’s 19 percent in 1992. But many fade; Perot polled much higher earlier in the campaign. And Paul faces serious challenges, with half in his own party believing he’d pursue policies most Americans would find unacceptable.

Paul’s support nonetheless reflects disquiet among Republicans with their other options. Among Republicans and Republican-leaning independents who are dissatisfied with the current GOP candidates, support for a third party rises to 56 percent – with 45 percent feeling so “strongly.” Nearly a third of these dissatisfied Republicans also say they’d definitely vote for a third-party candidate with whom they agreed with on most issues. Among satisfied Republicans that dives to 12 percent.

GROUPS  - While a Paul candidacy would hurt Romney, other third-party efforts could do more damage to Obama’s re-election hopes; liberals are much more apt than very conservative adults to think the country needs a third party, 60 percent vs. 34 percent. Indeed half of very conservatives feel strongly that a third party is unneeded. This appears to reflect a sense among some that they’ve already found their voice via the Tea Party movement.

One countervailing result, however, underscores loyalty to Obama in one of his core support groups, among racial minorities. In this group 42 percent flatly rule out supporting a third-party candidate. That declines to 24 percent among whites.

Among other groups, interest in a third party is highest among people under 50, dropping off particularly among seniors. Indeed four in 10 seniors say they definitely would not vote for an independent candidate, compared with a quarter of those 18 to 64.

Finally, economic dislocation plays something of a role. Willingness at least to consider a third-party candidate reaches 75 percent among people who’ve lost ground financially under Obama. That slips to 65 percent among those who say their finances have stayed the same or improved.

METHODOLOGY – This ABC News/Washington Post poll was conducted by telephone Jan. 12-15, 2012, among a random national sample of 1,000 adults, including landline and cell-phone-only respondents. Results have a margin of sampling error of 3.5 points for the full sample. The survey was produced for ABC News by Langer Research Associates of New York, N.Y., with sampling, data collection and tabulation by Abt-SRBI of New York, N.Y.

User Comments

We have a growing third party, the Libertarian Party. It grows every year, and is our largest third party. It has obviously grown as both parties are now beginning to support views which were held by the Libertarians 20 years ago, but that neither party would even talk about at that point.

Posted by: Chuck | January 20, 2012, 7:38 am 7:38 am

Its not a question of if but when; the left/right duopoly has died in basically every western country except the US. In my country we’ve had a third party presence for over 30 years. Their presence has stopped our version of SOPA, a national ID card and sales tax on food. This might just be the year America catches up with the rest of the world. Good luck.

Posted by: anon | January 20, 2012, 7:50 am 7:50 am

Neither the GOP or the Democrats are currently listening to us or reflecting the way we want the country to go. And the Libertarian party would be more aptly named the “let ‘em die” party. They’re not particularly sane. No thanks. We need a decent and reasonable third choice. The Libertarians or Tea Partiers aren’t decent or reasonable. Consider me still looking.

Posted by: whatever | January 20, 2012, 8:35 am 8:35 am

Yeah, something moderate. Which libertarians don’t remotely come close to. I have no desire to reside in the Gilded Age.

Posted by: lexingtonlady | January 20, 2012, 9:15 am 9:15 am

I have no desire to reside in the Gilded Age.

You are ready living there. Take a look around you-outside your bubble and see the country getting poorer and deeper in debt.
But on the topic there aren’t even 2 parties these days. there are elitist in the country that run both parties and there isn’t a heck of a lot of difference between the two.

Posted by: david | January 20, 2012, 9:56 am 9:56 am

Too bad the marxists and communists and anarchists don’t break from the democrats and form their own third party.

Posted by: trish | January 20, 2012, 9:57 am 9:57 am

Bad analysis, it’s not that ‘third party’ candidates fade – what happens is people coalesce around the front runners.

So, the candidates who are not in the top two spots tend to fade as election day nears.

If a Republican is in that 3rd spot, if a Democrat is in that 3rd spot, then you’ll see a so-called major party candidate fade.

That’s normal and not even a problem for a 3rd party. To win, they have to have the same things going for them as a major party – tons of cash, a willingness to promise everything under the sun, and huge name recognition.

Then you’ll get a 3rd party guy winning – and it won’t make a lick of difference, because he or she will be exactly like a major party candidate winning.

That is the real problem. What we want – is a different math that hasn’t been invented yet.

Posted by: RobBob | January 20, 2012, 10:07 am 10:07 am

Ron Paul is not a republican; he needs to run as a Libertarian candidate. If he wants his message to get out, he needs his own platform. He won’t get much recognition at the republican convention. As a third party candidate he would be included in the Presidential debates.

The problem is if he softens on his anti-war stance and legalization of drugs, he’ll lose half the young people’s support.

Posted by: tmferretti | January 20, 2012, 10:33 am 10:33 am

Give it some time.

Right now, the people are taking charge again, and rejecting the candidate the establishment wants to shove down our throats.

Perhaps it is the time when the people of this country, retake it from the politicians, and special interests.

Posted by: Rick McDaniel | January 20, 2012, 10:50 am 10:50 am

Just how are you gauging likelihood to vote? If it’s by whether these folks have voted in the past don’t be surprised that they look unlikely. It’s been a long time since many people thought there was anyone worth voting for. Why bother to vote is you’ll be screwed either way. This year, if he is selected as the LP Candidate, Gary Johnson will offer a major viable alternative with broad appeal across party lines and especially with independents. Its shaping up as an interesting year.

That is, if the MSM will treat Johnson any better than they have Ron Paul. ABC has been particularly bad about giving Paul the coverage he deserves.

Posted by: June Genis | January 21, 2012, 1:34 pm 1:34 pm

Without a third party, congress will continue passing laws to accomodate the party rather than the American citizen as it has for the past 50 years.

Posted by: Andy Hrehorovich | January 25, 2012, 12:39 am 12:39 am

Ron Paul looks out of place running as a Republican. He looks like a Professor who stumbled into a kindergarden class full of kids. He is far superior to the others. One who does not pander to the party or corporate interests but represents his employer, the taxpayer. Also, he is the only one in the group who fully understands the catastrophe of “business as usual”. Ron Paul is the third party that we need if only to bring honesty to the other parties.

Posted by: Andy hrehorovich | January 25, 2012, 1:05 am 1:05 am

A third party is essential now as a platform to educate those who are programmed for business as usual. For instance, Ron Paul wants to increase military spending here to create many more jobs. Overseas military spending got us bankrupt. The media has done a poor job in explaining this.

Posted by: Andy hrehorovich | January 25, 2012, 1:33 am 1:33 am

That’s just plain dumb. You must be a liberal supporting new tricks to get Obama re-elected.

Posted by: crsfructso | February 3, 2012, 12:18 am 12:18 am

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