Top Negotiators: ‘We Have Reached an Agreement’ on Payroll Tax Measure

Apparently the spanking that the House GOP received from the Senate GOP over this issue back in December is being taken seriously now. Maybe running against Congress works.

Obama wins; Boehner cries

Stop WITH all ofthe COMPLAININNG!!! The PRESIDENT is doing the BEST he can. Just PAY your HIGHER taxes!!!!!

It will now cost the average middle class family, $9600 based on a $200,000 dollars loan to buy or refinance a home….This money will go into the “general fund”
It will cost Social Security $119,000,000,000. This is payfor this “taxcut”.

“the Senate GOP…”
POSTED BY: SAMEAGAIN/SEARAMBLER
You mean the GOP in the Democratically-controlled Senate who totally and immediately rejected Obama’s last budget? And the same Democratic Senate that has not even passed a budget at all in more than 2 years? Good luck with the silly spin.

Why is it that every “win” for Obama is a loss for America?

From Factcheck.org:
“The nation’s total debt stood at $10.6 trillion on the day Obama took office, and it had increased to nearly $15.4 trillion by the end of January 2012 — a rise of more than $4.7 trillion in just over three years.
That’s a huge increase to be sure — 44.5 percent. And the Congressional Budget Office now projects that it will grow to more than $16 trillion by the end of the current fiscal year on Sept. 30. At that point, the debt will have increased by more dollars in Obama’s first four years than it did in George W. Bush’s entire eight-year tenure, when it rose by $4.9 trillion. The rise under Obama would then be the biggest dollar increase for any president in U.S. history.”

“Obama wins; Boehner cries.”
NOFLYZONE2
Clever. Not much. Truer would be: “Obama wins; Americans who are awake cry”

Somehow the middle class has been screwed, but he good news is in less than 1 year it won’t matter. Whats good for Greece will be good for the rest of the world, including America.

Wow. They did their freakin’ job, and everyone cheers like they parted the Red Sea.

“We at MOVEON.ORG do not support this “deal” at all. Higher taxes are necessary for everyone. Sorry.”
POSTED BY: GREEN.GODDESS | FEBRUARY 16, 2012, 8:31 AM
“Does MOVEON.ORG provide you compensation for blogging on this forum? ”
Posted by: DEANBOB
Good question to which I believe we all know the answer. The answer is Yes for some of the slower folks.

“the Democratically-controlled Senate”…count the votes against the House bill back in December, Jiminy, and tell me the Senate GOP didn’t spank the House GOP for holding the middle class hostage to their pipeline demands. Plus they were being political crack-heads to even appear to be against a tax cut.

“We at MOVEON.ORG do not support this “deal” at all. Higher taxes are necessary for everyone. Sorry.”
POSTED BY: GREEN.GODDESS | FEBRUARY 16, 2012, 8:31 AM
“Does MOVEON.ORG provide you compensation for blogging on this forum? ”
Posted by: DEANBOB
Good question to which I believe we all know the answer. The answer is Yes for some of the slower folks.
Posted by: Captain obvious | February 16, 2012, 9:15 am.

LOL! The original post from ‘Green Goddess’ was posted by a Right Wing troll who frequents these comment sections with ABC’s blessing. Talk about “slower folks”…..

Now the Democrats get to say they’re for the middle class and the Republicans avoid being labeled only for the rich. Isn’t politics lovely? They get to play with our money to make themselves look good. As good as possible anyway.

Tmferretti (9:31 AM); “The republicans need to quit blaming the President and Senate for not passing a budget, it’s a House responsibility.” Way off track on that one friend. The House has submitted a budget continually in the 1,000-plus days since the Democrat-controlled Senate last passed a budget, which it’s legally mandated to do … every year. It’s been nearly three years – and still no budget. Don’t expect one anytime soon either. Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid has already publicly and proudly flipped off the notion of following the law and producing a budget.
It’s pretty clear he wants to protect the president from controversal legislation until after the election. Personally, I don’t understand how he get’s away with it.

Sad but True: ROFL!!!, you do not the number is higher for GWB, our current president when he come into office was funded by GWB, budgets run a year behind, you like to skew numbers because a lot of people on your side must really have a difficult time with simple third grade math and assume that most independent voters do to, and I’m not trying to being mean about it but it really seems to be the case. The payroll tax is for social security by which the prior president borrowed from the SURPLUS fund and so did previous predecessors, they need to pay that back.

Can’t wait to see if the House Democrats support Maxine Water’s “rise” to the Chairman of the House Budget Finance and Ways committee, taking Barney Frank’s place. She’s the dumbest person to walk the halls of Congress since the last chaperoned field trip of the mentally challenged. That’ll be an interesting story for ABC.

Look like it is time to send the rest of the old school republicans packing.

$5 TRILLION of new debt in four years (it took Bush 8 years) with Obama and the middle-income folks think their taxes aren’t going to go up! The Democrat party really has done a number on their rank and file, haven’t they? We already know that just to pay for Obama’s last annual deficit they’d have to TAKE $3.x billion from each and every one of this country’s 400 (or so) billionaires. That’s just to cover the deficit from last year. Do you folks on the left so loyal to bigger and bigger government really believe the burdens won’t also fall on middle-income taxpayers? Herman Cain was right about you people.

“Sad but True: ROFL!!!, you do not the number is higher for GWB, our current president…blah, blah and blah”
Posted by: Emerald_Sparks
More laughably wordy spin from moveon.org with some stale spice from MSNBC. Yeah, we trust you over factcheck.org any day. Not. LOL!

“We at MOVEON.ORG do not support this “deal” at all. Higher taxes are necessary for everyone. Sorry. ”
Posted by: Green.goddess
Thanks. I will check with them to see what I should be supporting and not supporting. I didn’t get the memo, lol, times a bunch.

Someone still posting in my other name…post at 10:53 am . Just trying to make me look really stopid again.

“When will we we really see Obama get his act together? Supporting him is becoming more and more of an exercise in utter futility.”
Posted by: LexingtonLady
You just need to keep the faith, and stay on message.

It’s a compliment when the juvenile idiots post in your name, it means your comments are true and it sets their hair on fire. They would rather just follow the example of the tea party republicans, have no ideas or common sense and resort to childish tactic to show where they stand.

Correction: I also see that they may just be laughing at me because I’m so lame. Possible. Hate to imagine that’s it.

SALLY

If all you listed were true, why do we even have a government? The Tories back in 1776 believed in the things you listed, let the English nobility and the rich run our lives. Thankfully the founders disagreed.

Tmferretti, the founders also disagreed with domineering, suffocating government, and instead they truly leaned very heavily towards small government and individual freedom. Nice that you left that huge part out.

…the founders also disagreed with domineering, suffocating government, and instead they truly leaned very heavily towards small government and individual freedom. Posted by: jimmie | February 16, 2012, 12:38 pm.

Too bad the GOP doesn’t believe in that….

S: “$5 TRILLION of new debt in four years (it took Bush 8 years) with Obama and the middle-income folks think their taxes aren’t going to go up!” Well considering President Clinton raised taxes on the top and middle class and decreased it for the poor, during his tenure, we had the greatest economic expansion ever in American history surpassing president Regan with the lowest poverty rate in 20 years, and as said previously increase deficits does not necessitate increase spending, tax revenues received in 2009 were over 400 billion less than 2008. Quantively tax revenues were approximately 100 billion more in 2009 received than year 2000, year 2000 we didn’t have homeland security and 200,000 extra federal government employees and two wars and medicare part D and convert that to real dollars as a comparative, a strong reason for increase yearly deficits. 2009′s budget was GWB’s by which the current president’s first year federal government was funded.

President Obama outlined the purpose of Government in his Otwasomie, Kansas speech. He practically quoted Teddy Roosevelt (a real republican) verbatim. He said

“Inequality also distorts our democracy. It gives an outsized voice to the few who can afford high-priced lobbyists and unlimited campaign contributions, and it runs the risk of selling out our democracy to the highest bidder. It leaves everyone else rightly suspicious that the system in Washington is rigged against them, that our elected representatives aren’t looking out for the interests of most Americans.

This what governmen tis all about.

“Too bad the GOP doesn’t believe in that….”
Posted by: A Cynic/SameAgain
They believe in it at least 500 times more than Obama.
Obviously.

Emerald_Sparks, Let’s just look at those pesky deficits….Blame Bush? —- YOU KNOW that CONGRESS approves all the spending of our tax dollars!!! Under Bush with a GOP control of congress… the deficits went DOWN FOUR STRAIGHT YEARS….
2004- $568B;
2005- $494B;
2006- $434B;
2007- $342B
Then the Dems took over congress in 2007… then we had the following budget deficits:
2008- $420B;
2009-$1,850B;
2010-$1,500B;
2011-$1,300B
2012-$1,330B (projected)
2013-$1,000B (Obama will get there)
Obama has had THREE straight years of RECORD deficits…. EACH THREE TIMES more than Bush’s largest deficit!!! —- ALSO…. the last three years have seen a 24% increase in discretionary spending…Discretionary outlays in 2010 and 2011 were the highest % of GDP in about 20 years…. is that Bush’s fault?? — The stimulus that was passed EXCLUSIVELY by Democrats… was that Bush’s fault?? — Obamacare and Dodd-Frank and all the costs with them… was that Bush’s fault?? — The total debt as a percentage of GDP in Sept ’11 was 67%… NEARLY DOUBLE what it was in 2006 (37%)!!!

Thanks TMFERRETTI for reminding us of Obama’s lamer than lame attempt to compare and join himself to Teddy Roosevelt. What a hoot that was. Roosevelt, however, didn’t believe in marxism or marxism lite.

THANKS

If Teddy were alive today he’d be a democrat. He too didn’t believe the rich and powerful should run our country.

2HUNDREDTHUOSAND

Aren’t most people from Kansas republican?

Nothing you said minimizes the fact that Obama is just a blowhard demagogue. Try again.

No, he has nothing in common with those who live off the government as a “lifestyle”, nor does he have anything in common with those who wish to confiscate people’s money to subsidize that “lifestyle”. Try again.

RIGHTON

Despite conservative republican beliefs, not everyone in the middle class lives off the government. Yes the government helps (as it is supposed to) a very small minority of people who need help.

Most of the money “confiscated” goes to protect you from enemies that would waste our asses if they got the chance. A lot of it goes so we can drive from Boston to LA and never get stuck in the mud. The government provides us with a lot of benefits not enjoyed in the third world countries the republicans want us to become.

So a little goes to help our fellow neighbors who are in need, I find it hard to feel I’m so imposed upon.

FERRET SHADOW

I assure you ABC doesn’t even know what I post or who I am. Don’t be so paranoid

Obama can barely tolerate Amerca. Teddy Roosevelt loved America. TR believe in self-reliance, and wanted to remove obstacles to its free expression. Obama believes in dependence on government, and wants to remove obstacles to its dogmatic dominance.

Obama 2012. Get used to it.

@ Risky Business – how can you write that drivel?? You said -> Obama has contempt for his own country, and it is extremely obvious to most awake and even half-perceptive people…….You are delusional…but that’s the GOP these days. Try not to kill anyone when Obama wins in 2012. I mean , who’s gonna beat him? Please take off the tin foil caps GOPers. There’ a thing called truth that you really need to check out.

Obama is a traitor. He hasn’t done anything. Boehner keeps trying his best to do good, but this communist Obama just vetos everything the great GOP tries to do. He is unamerican. I know for a fact he is not a US citizen. Impeach Obama before the election so we can win!

“President Obama loves this country as much or more than anyone. ”
Posted by: tmferretti
How you can even type that with a straight face is beyond me. But maybe you are laughing as you type. Obama has contempt for his own country, and it is extremely obvious to most awake and even half-perceptive people. But he gets to slide on that since many of his supporters share the very same contempt, and even view such contempt as a sign of being in the liberal know about things, as being “smart”.
Posted by: Risky Business
Very well said, and quite true.

Obama, the academic and quasi-government con man and shakedown artist, and later mostly absentee senator, has never EVER had a real job in his entire life — not even a paper route or selling lemonade when he was far younger. That is weird. He always been merely an academic or governmental parasite. Is it any wonder he looks down on America, and arrogantly feels that America should be thankful to have him.

I think NeoConns need to come back & clean this place up. I mean you seen what we did in 2000-2008. We’re ready. Until then we’ll be hangin out with the bishops & the boys. 4 more years ! of WAR

GOP has nothing but smoke & mirrors & lies. Everything they say & do is just to themselves more money. Who cares about teachers & education. As long as we can give stock tips to the wall streeters & then get our cut we are happy. Isn’t America grand?

“GOP has nothing but smoke & mirrors & lies.”
POSTED BY: MRE_MANN
Yep. Obama’s negatively ahead. He has all that, plus a live-in teleprompter too.

“Obama can’t even tie his own shoelases THATS how stupid he be.”
POSTED BY: FORYOUEDIFICATION
Yes but his daughters are trying to teach him how.