Feb 2, 2012 10:17am

WWJD? Would He Support the Buffett Rule? President Obama Suggests Yes

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At the annual prayer breakfast this morning, President Obama suggested that his proposed tax increases on the wealthy are in accordance with the teachings of Jesus Christ.

“In a time when many folks are struggling and at a time when we have enormous deficits, it’s hard for me to ask seniors on a fixed income or young people with student loans or middle-class families who can barely pay the bills to shoulder the burden alone,” he said. “And I think to myself, if I’m willing to give something up as somebody who’s been extraordinarily blessed and give up some of the tax breaks that I enjoy, I actually thinks that’s going to make economic sense.”

The president continued: “But for me as a Christian, it also coincides with Jesus’ teaching that, from to whom much is given, much shall be required.”

He added that the principle also “mirrors the Islamic belief that though who’ve been blessed have an obligation to use those blessings to help others; or the Jewish doctrine of moderation and consideration for others.”

Starting with his State of the Union address, President Obama has been making tax increases on wealthier Americans a major part of his policy and reelection campaign. He and his team cite the so-called “Buffett Rule” – a principle named after billionaire investor Warren Buffett – as a centerpiece of this policy push. The Buffett Rule would require that millionaires and billionaires pay at least 30% of their income in taxes, even if their income comes from investments and therefore is currently taxed at a lower rate.

On Capitol Hill, members of the president’s party have introduced legislation that would raise taxes on people making more than $1 million per year.

The issue of government support for the poor has been a hot topic on the campaign trail lately. When GOP front-runner Mitt Romney said yesterday that his campaign was focused on the middle class, and not on the “very poor”, for whom there is a social safety net in place, it was seized by Democrats seeking to paint the Republican frontrunner as an out-of-touch, heartless robber baron with no concern for the poor.

The annual prayer breakfast, held at the Washington Hilton, began in 1953.

The president also mentioned how the White House Office of Faith-Based Initiatives had partnered with Catholic Charities to help the poor, but he made no mention of how leaders of the Catholic Church are currently irate about the recent Obama administration rule requiring every health insurance program to include contraception, even though Catholic dogma opposes many forms of birth control and considers some of them – including birth controls pills – the taking of human life.

 

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Oh God, really. Now we have the 20-year student of “Rev.” Wright (the hater) now our Preacher-in-Chief telling us about Scripture? What a pathetic campaign ploy. The poor will always be among us. The bible doesn’t say anything about forced charity. The idea of forced charity (higher taxes on the rich) is not at all biblical. The minimum wage is another biblical myth. The bible is clear that wages are set by the employer. Of course, to liberals that means that government TELLS business owners what they MUST pay at a minimum.

Posted by: s | February 2, 2012, 10:32 am 10:32 am

Hey, maybe Hussein Obama can covert us to a Muslim nation and that way we won’t have to pay interest on all the TRILLIONS he’s spending to buy votes from unions (like they have to) and blacks. What a joke.

Posted by: s | February 2, 2012, 10:35 am 10:35 am

I am surprised that the President participates in these superstitions after the way he was treated by the Catholic church-it just goes to show what a truly magnanamous man he is.I’m glad that he spoke out for economic justice-no one should make a million dollars a year on the backs of American workers.Even people who are not summa cum laude college graduates like our President can see that.Of course,as a descendent of slaves Mr. Obama has a greater sensitivity for the economic problems of the poor,particularly because he grew up as one of them.

Posted by: gobama | February 2, 2012, 10:37 am 10:37 am

Charity can’t be coerced, just as “force is never friendly.”

Posted by: TPB | February 2, 2012, 10:41 am 10:41 am

The President confuses the work of government with the work of Jesus. In fact if you wish to make the biggest benefit to the disadvantaged it is best to eliminate the middleman (government) through direct intervention. For example, Mitt Romney contributed an amount equal to his taxes in charitable contributions. In addition, the Romney family has provided years of missionary work as part of their religious beliefs. Government is the solution only for those who worship at the alter of big government! (Note: Because of his high income Mitt’s charitable contributions do not get the same tax advantage as Warren Buffet’s secretary)

Posted by: Common _ Sense | February 2, 2012, 10:41 am 10:41 am

Unfortunately gay marriage and abortion are NOT supported by the teaching of Jesus Christ. So Barack Obama STFU!

Posted by: John | February 2, 2012, 10:45 am 10:45 am

Is he going to Tebow now?

Posted by: newcountryman | February 2, 2012, 10:50 am 10:50 am

Is Mitt Romney a Christian?

Posted by: just askin' | February 2, 2012, 10:56 am 10:56 am

The real measure of who is “Christ Like” is by their action rather than what they tell everyone else to do!

Posted by: Common _ Sense | February 2, 2012, 11:02 am 11:02 am

President Obama is RIGHT and I often wonder how so many wealthy people became so greedy as to do things the way Mitt Romney is doing them. Hide you money in the Cayman Islands and in Swiss Banks – perfectly legal my butt. Hey JOHN, why don’t YOU take your own advise!!!

Posted by: demNme5 | February 2, 2012, 11:13 am 11:13 am

I don’t know if Romney is a Christian. I do know that he is not a summa cum laude Ivy League college, straight A graduate like our President.

Posted by: gobama | February 2, 2012, 11:13 am 11:13 am

The left progressives are pathetic – WWJD – what happended to the separation of Church and State – people or ministers tha invoke the name of Jesus are not allowed to particpate in public forms – what a joke. I doubt if Jesus would have owned Buffet’s companies either.

Posted by: jamescbuilder | February 2, 2012, 11:15 am 11:15 am

It is pretty obvious that the President feels that the Government does a better job at charity than does the American people- although he is probably wrong on some of his thinking or we would not have people in poverty for generation after generation I would also imagine that tax protest 2000 years ago would have resulted in beheadings and other punishment which may have been the reason for “render to Caesar what is Caesars but from what I can gather I think it is “we” as individuals who should help as much as we can when we can.

Posted by: david | February 2, 2012, 11:17 am 11:17 am

Actually, GOBAMA, Romney’s college transcripts are indeed available for you to look at: He graduated with honors from BYU, and then with honors from Harvard Law School. And his records are public and available, so it is easy to say with confidence that he did graduate with honors from an Ivy League School. A JD is not a “minor honor”. Do you even know what cum laude means? It’s not that big a deal…a 3.6 to 3.8 GPA. More common than phoney Nobel Peace Prizes. Now, can you prove that obama graduated cum laude? Have you seen his transcripts? Hmmmm…..no? Wonder why not………..

Posted by: ncpilot15 | February 2, 2012, 11:32 am 11:32 am

This is what community organizers do. The use goverment funds (your money) to operate with and Obama needs more government funds (your money) to re-distribute. It’s really quite simple. Give me give me give me.

Posted by: billy bob | February 2, 2012, 11:35 am 11:35 am

“Catholic dogma… considers some of them-including birth control pills-the taking of human life.”That statement is a lie. Jake,please show us where you got your information that the Church believes that birth cotrol pills “take human life.”Really Jake,even a tiny bit of research would have told you that the Church objects to oral contraceptives because they PREVENT conception, not because they TERMINATE pregnancy-which they don’t do anyway.How can you terminate a pregnancy that never occurs?Come on, you don’t need to take embryology to understand the difference.

Posted by: Nephron | February 2, 2012, 11:35 am 11:35 am

DEMNME5 | FEBRUARY 2, 2012, 11:13 AM…”Hide you money in the Cayman Islands and in Swiss Banks – perfectly legal my butt. “…..Many financial planners recommend high net worth clients diversify their assets in countries other than the US. Why do you ASSUME that because he is smart enough to put some of his money outside the US, he is hiding anything?

Posted by: deanbob | February 2, 2012, 11:36 am 11:36 am

What would Jesus do? Probably call Barack Obama a hypocrite as he did to the scribes and Pharisees.

Posted by: John | February 2, 2012, 11:37 am 11:37 am

JAMESCBUILDER | FEBRUARY 2, 2012, 11:15 AM…..”The left progressives are pathetic”……The progressives on the right are bad too!

Posted by: deanbob | February 2, 2012, 11:39 am 11:39 am

Mr. Obama is wrong. Charity cannot be forced. Jesus wanted us to give from our hearts. Wrenching money away from me to give to someone just because is not charity. Charity is seeing a true need and filling it on your own.

Posted by: wryview | February 2, 2012, 11:42 am 11:42 am

It is well known that Mr Obama graduated summa cum laude from Columbia and Harvard.He worked his way through both schools and was at the top of his class at each institution.Obviously he was a straight A student. BYU is not an Ivy League school; where is your proof that Romney ever attended Harvard? We know much more about Mr Obama’s academic history than Romney’s-and he didn’t get any special consideration like the rich boy Romney got.

Posted by: gobama | February 2, 2012, 11:43 am 11:43 am

I would love to confirm GOBAMA’s claim that the president graduated with straight As, except none of his transcripts have ever been made public. I’ve also never heard or read anything from his fellow students, former professors or co-workers as to his supposed brilliance. I know he reads a teleprompter with ease. He led the Harvard Law Review, but there aren’t any examples of anything he wrote during his time there. He’s a phantom of everyone’s imagination.

Posted by: Joe Melnick | February 2, 2012, 11:45 am 11:45 am

Wow you conservatives are so pathetic.. 4 years of obama serving and you still only have rev. wright hahaha. Thats the best you can do. Well I am white and live in chicago and have heard many a fiery sermon and I didn’t get offended. You just can’t stand it cause obama is right and all you repubs are fighting for is against what you believe in.. your hypocrites but I already knew that.

Posted by: b | February 2, 2012, 11:46 am 11:46 am

Doesn’t anybody know if Mitt Romney is a Christian?

Posted by: just askin' | February 2, 2012, 11:49 am 11:49 am

Do you know Bonhoeffer and what he did?

Posted by: deanbob | February 2, 2012, 11:53 am 11:53 am

now he is a preacher? really. 49% pay no federal income tax, throw on an additional 12 million illegals and i would say the tail is wagging the dog.

Posted by: catman | February 2, 2012, 11:53 am 11:53 am

The government doesn’t need to keep raising taxes, because doing so doesn’t guarantee that the poor and needy will get the benefits of a tax hike. We all know how badly the federal government mishandles money. What the government needs to do is encourage more wealthy Americans to donate their money to charity, helping those in need and letting them choose who they want to donate to. I applaud wealthy Americans like Mitt Romney who donated 16% of his taxes to charities. If you include that percentage and the percentage he he paid to the governement in taxes, that amounts to a little over 30% of his income. Compare that to a lousy 2% donated by Gingrich, I think wealthy Americans like Romney are doing it the right way and if the government allowed them to donate freely like that instead of forcing it out of their hands, a lot more people can be helped, rather than having the government hand it out to them and make them more dependent upon the government.

Posted by: Ann | February 2, 2012, 12:02 pm 12:02 pm

Sadly in obama’s case it’s more like WWMD(what would Marx do).

Posted by: J.Cortez | February 2, 2012, 12:08 pm 12:08 pm

We all know how badly the federal government mishandles money.
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Uh, no we don’t. Medicare and SS for example, are run much more efficiently, with less bureaucracy and overhead costs, than any private alternative which offers the same coverage.

Posted by: jumbo shrimp | February 2, 2012, 12:10 pm 12:10 pm

Bwahhahah…Gobama….Let me educate you a bit in simple logic. Had Obama had good grades and good test scores like the bots want to claim…he would have released his transcripts but more importantly would have gotten into Harvard on his own. He didn’t the Saud royals pulled strings to get him in. He also would have been listed on Occidental in honors. BTW, the sauds royals wouldn’t have pulled stings for Obama unless he shared their religion. Hello.

Posted by: beensaidsaid | February 2, 2012, 12:22 pm 12:22 pm

OH my Goodness, someone thinks Medicare and SS are run well? Seriously?

Posted by: beensaidsaid | February 2, 2012, 12:26 pm 12:26 pm

Jesus would have admonished Obama not to buy votes by playing to man’s covetous nature. If Obama had even a remedial familiarity of the Holy Bible, he would have walked out of Trintiy Church and reverend Wright’s marxist idealogoical sermons.

Posted by: Michael | February 2, 2012, 12:27 pm 12:27 pm

I am so sick and tired of you people who don’t have all the facts popping off your big fat mouths! When you say 49% of the American people pay no Fed income tax, do you even stop to consider the taxes we do pay! How about property tax, payroll tax, taxes on goods and services. Who pays those? The Tax Fairy! By the way, Our President has a right to our respect. When you disrespect him you disrespect the American people. Never in American history has a President been treated with so much disrespect, and I am sick of that too. GROW UP!

Posted by: Susan | February 2, 2012, 12:31 pm 12:31 pm

SUSAN | FEBRUARY 2, 2012, 12:31 PM….”I am so sick and tired of you people who don’t have all the facts popping off your big fat mouths! When you say 49% of the American people pay no Fed income tax, “……..Do you even know the difference between Federal income tax and the other taxes you listed? That difference is precisely why I state “Federal income tax” and not “taxes”. Respect is earned not commanded.

Posted by: deanbob | February 2, 2012, 12:36 pm 12:36 pm

The president graduated with honors from Harvard , magna cum laude ( top 10% in general ) . He has the equivalent of a Ph.D in law ( a J.D. ) . ———from FactCheck .

Posted by: davem | February 2, 2012, 12:41 pm 12:41 pm

Reality check: The Romans were a very oppressive people. The Roman GOVERNMENT taxed the life right out of the farmers, workers and even the poor. THe Jews were mightliy oppressed by the Romans. The people were so taxed that they could not eak out a living. Read about the Roman Civilization. This President distorts the Bible and the words of Jesus. I attend seminary and I can tell you that the President is misusing the scriptures and Jesus. Jesus did not side with the Roman GOVERNMENT. Jesus’ governement was the Kingdom of God and the sovereign rule of God. Obama is distorting the words and message of Jesus for his own gain

Posted by: Greg T | February 2, 2012, 12:46 pm 12:46 pm

Deanbob: Many of the 49% DO pay income taxes. However, they make so little, that, with exemptions, standard or itemized deductions, child care, etc. they get refunds of that tax. Refunds are akin to giving the government an interest free loan. That is why they are the WORKING poor. I see it all of the time. I work in accounting.

Posted by: pksk531 | February 2, 2012, 12:48 pm 12:48 pm

Why would an alleged constitutional scholar sign the NDAA that ignores a person’s right to habeus corpus?

Posted by: deanbob | February 2, 2012, 12:48 pm 12:48 pm

Jesus disliked demagogues and those that purposely pit people against each other. He would be no fan of Obama.

Posted by: Bill | February 2, 2012, 12:49 pm 12:49 pm

Fact: 49% ( or whatever ) of Americans don’t pay any Fed income tax because they are too poor . 50% of Americans make less than 50$ k per year , a large percentage of them making far far less than that . 30% of Americans are at or below the poverty level to boot. Conservatives , being the disingenuous liars that they are ,dearly love to use half baked sophomoric assertions that appear relevant and cogent at first glance , but once any really deep thorough analysis is done , they are generally proven to be liars and politically convenient mass exaggerators .

Posted by: davem | February 2, 2012, 12:51 pm 12:51 pm

Gobama would drink grape kool aid if Obama said so.

Posted by: newcountryman | February 2, 2012, 12:53 pm 12:53 pm

PKSK531 | FEBRUARY 2, 2012, 12:48 PM …..Correct me if I am wrong, but the IRS ‘taxes paid’ numbers are based on income taxes paid after returns are filed. What is the going money market annual rate? 10 yr notes are paying 1.9%.

Posted by: pksk531 | February 2, 2012, 12:54 pm 12:54 pm

“Jesus did not side with the Roman GOVERNMENT “.——————–Wrong. He said ” give to Caesar what is Caesar’s , give to God what is God’s ” when questioned on whether or not Jews should dutifully pay taxes to Rome .You need to read the Bible more I guess.

Posted by: davem | February 2, 2012, 12:55 pm 12:55 pm

Deanbob; “Why would an alleged constitutional scholar sign the NDAA…..”. I’ve been wondering about that myself!

Posted by: newcountryman | February 2, 2012, 12:55 pm 12:55 pm

Obama is such a total and corrupt fraud.

Obama is just a petty dictator, in presidential clothing.

Posted by: Rick McDaniel | February 2, 2012, 12:56 pm 12:56 pm

Nobama…Where is my proof that Romney ever attended Harvard???? Really? Why don’t you get off your lazy butt and google it: IF you are intelligent enough to do that, you will be taken to a Wiki page. On that page, you will see a short bio of Romney. In that short bio, you will see a heading called “Alma Mater”. If your ADD hasn’t kicked in, and you can still continue this train of thought, look at that heading. You will see that he spent 4 years at BYU (which, regardless of your prejudices, is a classy school), where he earned a BA degree in Law, and then spent 4 more years at Harvard where he earned a JD in Law. Is that easy enough for you to do? Or do we need to get your mommy to help you? Sorry if the truth disappoints you…..He has opened HIS transcripts….where are obama’s????

Posted by: ncpilot15 | February 2, 2012, 12:59 pm 12:59 pm

Posted by: davem | February 2, 2012, 12:51 pm 12:51 pm

Interstate highways are built and maintained with federal income tax dollars. If you drive on interstate highways but don’t pay any federal income taxes, you’re leeching. Period.

Posted by: Bill | February 2, 2012, 1:01 pm 1:01 pm

That difference is precisely why I state “Federal income tax” and not “taxes”
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Of course—-a deliberate attempt to disguise the fact that many of these people who pay little income taxes actually pay a larger share of their income in all kinds of taxes and fees than guys like Mitt Romney do.

Posted by: jumbo shrimp | February 2, 2012, 1:02 pm 1:02 pm

Taxation is in accordance with the teachings of Jesus Christ? Taxation is theft! It is taking something from someone against their will! It violates the commandment “Thou shalt not steal”. The criminal organization commonly referred to as ‘the government’ uses violence to get what it wants. Read the parable in Matthew 20:1-16. The master hired laborers throughout the day, some worked 11 hours, some worked 1 hour, at the end of the day, they were all paid the same. The laborers who worked 11 hours thought this was unfair, to which the master responded “Is it not lawful for me to do what I will with mine own?” Private property no longer exists in the U.S. God requires a voluntary 10% contribution + other offerings to help the poor in society. The criminal organization commonly referred to as ‘the government’ uses violence to take by force even more than what God requires. The majority of people in the U.S. have chosen to be governed by the whims of man over the Law. If you think slavery doesn’t exist in America, stop paying your income or FICA taxes, you will find out real fast who owns you. Stop paying your property taxes, you will find out real fast who owns you! Man is created in the image of God, and is not meant to be treated like a dumb animal! If you believe taxation is okay, you have chosen another god. The God of Abraham does not authorize taxation. Thou shalt not steal.

Posted by: Gabriel | February 2, 2012, 1:03 pm 1:03 pm

And Romney does have a PHD equivalent—the JD in law—from Harvard Law School. Only difference between his JD and obama’s JD is that Romney’s is actually visible and public……..go figure.

Posted by: ncpilot15 | February 2, 2012, 1:04 pm 1:04 pm

The Obamas and Bidens don’t give 10% of their own incomes to charity and yet they want to take more from others to support their agenda. I would rather give money to charities of my choosing then to give it to the govt to pay for all those vacations and events at the white house to entertain his donors……or to waste on green energy because he needs to pay back donors: ie Solyndra!!!

Posted by: Kathy in Pa. | February 2, 2012, 1:04 pm 1:04 pm

Posted by: jumbo shrimp | February 2, 2012, 1:02 pm 1:02 pm

Irrelevant. Nobody is entitled to use federal resources that others pay for.

Posted by: Bill | February 2, 2012, 1:08 pm 1:08 pm

This President excels at pandering to whichever group he is in front of at any given time. He does it quite well, in fact. That is one of the reasons he was elected. Thus,it should surprise no one that Barack Obama would invoke the name of Jesus Christ when addressing any Christian group. In short, he lacks sincerity, but, such is the method of all successful politicians in this country. If ‘pandering’ were against the law, our entire Congress would be behind bars.

Posted by: munster42 | February 2, 2012, 1:08 pm 1:08 pm

Oh…..and more bad news for you GOBAMA…..while researching a little bit more, in USNews, I discovered something horrible about Romney….While earning his JD in Law, he ALSO graduated Cum Laude from Harvard Law School………….uh-OH, you gotta be HATING that.

Posted by: ncpilot15 | February 2, 2012, 1:10 pm 1:10 pm

“…the Catholic Church are currently irate about the recent Obama administration rule requiring every health insurance program to include contraception…” – No surprise here, the Catholic Church would not have survived without this cornerstone of their dogma. Why? Because tyrants need troops.

Posted by: john locke | February 2, 2012, 1:10 pm 1:10 pm

If you drive on interstate highways but don’t pay any federal income taxes, you’re leeching. Period
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If you drive on highways then you’re probably buying gas, which is taxed…so there is no ‘period’ as usual.

Posted by: jumbo shrimp | February 2, 2012, 1:15 pm 1:15 pm

Desparation.

Posted by: LAL15 | February 2, 2012, 1:15 pm 1:15 pm

“Interstate highways are built and maintained with federal income tax dollars. If you drive on interstate highways but don’t pay any federal income taxes, you’re leeching. Period”.———-They are also paid for by state and federal surtaxes ( gas tax / food tax / etc ) which poor people have to pay regardless of their income . Fail .

Posted by: davem | February 2, 2012, 1:15 pm 1:15 pm

And Romney does have a PHD equivalent—the JD in law—from Harvard Law School. Only difference between his JD and obama’s JD is that Romney’s is actually visible and public……..go figure.=======================So ? Are you disputing Mr. Obama is a magna cum laude graduate of Harvard ? If not then please find something else to whine about . Mr. Obama is not compelled in any way , legal or otherwise , to publicly display his grades , to you or anyone else and if he does not want to do so it’s his right ( by law) as an American citizen to not do so . Whine more please , conservative whining is the best music ever !!

Posted by: davem | February 2, 2012, 1:19 pm 1:19 pm

Irrelevant. Nobody is entitled to use federal resources that others pay for.

Posted by: Bill | February 2, 2012, 1:08 pm 1:08 pm

You live in an imaginary world. Delusional in the worst possible way. Up your game.

Posted by: Chuck | February 2, 2012, 1:20 pm 1:20 pm

How about property tax, payroll tax, taxes on goods and services. Who pays those?

More than likely we who do pay taxes are paying those other taxes you cite as examples of paying taxes. You see, many who don’t pay federal tax get what we call Earned Income Credit.

Posted by: david | February 2, 2012, 1:20 pm 1:20 pm

“Nobody is entitled to use federal resources that others pay for.” ————————-Just because you Mr. American Idiot say so ? Wrong . Lol ! You obviously don’t know what you are talking about . Conservatives have their own FOX reality world where they live . When they come out into the real word for some reason reality just pounds them heartlessly , but what else would one expect when living in a fantasy world based on abjectly nonsensical and utterly preposterous contentions/ assertions ?

Posted by: davem | February 2, 2012, 1:23 pm 1:23 pm

“The God of Abraham does not authorize taxation “.———————-Yeah , but He said it was just fine and dandy capitalism that the Jews could charge interest on loans to the Gentiles right ( but never themselves , i.e Jew to Jew loans ) ? Pfttt .

Posted by: davem | February 2, 2012, 1:28 pm 1:28 pm

“…..payroll tax, taxes on goods and services. Who pays those? ” —————–Um that would be most EVERYONE IN THE USA . Mitt pays 14% tax on $44 mil while most folks pay 2 times that rate easy on less than $50k . Anyone who doesn’t see a big problem there is either trying really hard not to see it , or is just plain old stupid.

Posted by: davem | February 2, 2012, 1:33 pm 1:33 pm

What people don’t see is that Obama is doing the work of Satan. He is trying to make us feel that we can trust him and he is working for the good of a Christian nation. He hates America and he hates Christians.

Posted by: Zman | February 2, 2012, 1:35 pm 1:35 pm

“The last three decades have witnessed a carefully calculated heist worthy of Robert Redford and Paul Newman in “The Sting” — but on a massive scale. It was an inside job,politically engineered by Wall Street and Washington working hand-in-hand, sticky fingers with sticky fingers, to turn the legend of Robin Hood on its head – giving to the rich and taking from everybody else. Don’t take our word for it – it’s all on the record.”

Posted by: Don | February 2, 2012, 1:36 pm 1:36 pm

Posted by: davem | February 2, 2012, 1:23 pm 1:23 pm

What’s FOX have to do with you demanding freebies that others work hard to provide?

Posted by: Bill | February 2, 2012, 1:40 pm 1:40 pm

Posted by: davem | February 2, 2012, 1:33 pm 1:33 pm

What did Mitt pay on the earned money BEFORE it was invested and generated capital gains? Do you have any investments? Do you even work?

Posted by: Bill | February 2, 2012, 1:43 pm 1:43 pm

“where are obama’s???? “———————Just wondering who posted this Q ?

Posted by: davem | February 2, 2012, 1:46 pm 1:46 pm

“….while most folks pay 2 times that rate easy on less than $50k….”…you make a statement like that, then have the audacity to call other folks “stupid”??? Something so easy to show how wrong you are?? The Federal tax rate that MOST Americans pay is 11%. Look it up. Now as far as your claim that they pay 2 times that on 50K? So you are claiming that most Americans pay 28% on $50k income????? What stupid drivel! Go to IRS.gov and look for tax brackets. If a person is filing singly, and has a taxable income of 50,000 (which would mean he or she earned at least 55,000 dollars, then his tax rate would be 17.25%. His tax bracket would be 25%, but his actual tax would be $8,625 for an effective rate of 17.25%. Of course, since you probably don’t pay income taxes, one would not expect you to understand…

Posted by: ncpilot15 | February 2, 2012, 1:49 pm 1:49 pm

What did Mitt pay on the earned money BEFORE it was invested and generated capital gains? Do you have any investments?———————More disingenuous FOX double-talk sophistry . Don’t worry though , we liberals are going to make DAMN sure capital gains get taxed at the same rate as income from now on so there won’t be any distinction for you toads to pounce upon , count on that at ALL costs my R-tarded friends. Oh , and I’m retired @ 52 , thanks for your interest . And I don’t care if my taxes go up , I can afford it . ; )

Posted by: davem | February 2, 2012, 1:50 pm 1:50 pm

What’s FOX have to do with you demanding freebies that others work hard to provide?

Posted by: Bill | February 2, 2012, 1:40 pm 1:40 pm

You live in an imaginary world. Delusional in the worst possible way. Up your game.

Posted by: Chuck | February 2, 2012, 1:52 pm 1:52 pm

Thank you Sarah in Philly…..class envy is such an ugly thing, but seems to be coming in vogue more and more as this “president” insists on dividing our nation for the simple reason to garner votes.

Posted by: ncpilot15 | February 2, 2012, 1:52 pm 1:52 pm

So the Bible doesn’t say anything about taxes?!
Maybe you should open one…

In Matthew 17:24-27 we learn that Jesus did indeed pay taxes:
After Jesus and his disciples arrived in Capernaum, the collectors of the two-drachma tax came to Peter and asked, “Doesn’t your teacher pay the temple tax?”
“Yes, he does,” he replied.

Posted by: herbissimo | February 2, 2012, 1:53 pm 1:53 pm

GOP presidential candidate Newt Gingrich is accusing rival Mitt Romney’s of being a liar.

“I think it’s the most blatantly dishonest performance by a presidential candidate I’ve ever seen,” Gingrich said in a telephone interview with the Washington Post Friday, January 27, 2012.

Posted by: Another GOP liar | February 2, 2012, 1:57 pm 1:57 pm

Conservatives need their sophomoric trophy blonde pom pom girls and cheerleaders ideological , but the truth needs only itself. ; )

Posted by: davem | February 2, 2012, 1:57 pm 1:57 pm

So far Obama has not run on his record. Just class warfare and wealth distribution. Hmmmm.

Posted by: Sarah in Philly | February 2, 2012, 2:00 pm 2:00 pm

Perpetual unemployment checks do not count as retirement income…….shouldn’t you be out occupying something?

Posted by: ncpilot15 | February 2, 2012, 2:00 pm 2:00 pm

What was it Bush and the Republicans campaigned on? Running the government like a business, eliminating deficits and cutting down the debt – sound familiar?

And what did that really mean? Overspending, doubling the national debit, borrowing heavily from China while overspending and then watching the country plunge into an economic collapse.

You really don’t expect us to buy this nonsense twice?

Posted by: Not Again Never | February 2, 2012, 2:01 pm 2:01 pm

The study, published in Psychological Science, showed that people who score low on I.Q. tests in childhood are more likely to develop prejudiced beliefs and socially conservative politics in adulthood.

Dr. Gordon Hodson, a professor of psychology at the university and the study’s lead author, said the finding represented evidence of a vicious cycle: People of low intelligence gravitate toward socially conservative ideologies, which stress resistance to change and, in turn, prejudice, he told LiveScience.

Posted by: Low intelligence | February 2, 2012, 2:05 pm 2:05 pm

Of course that silly study doesn’t explain why so many conservatives run successful businesses and employ such a vast number of the public. So I guess my name is very appropriate.

Posted by: low intelligence | February 2, 2012, 2:13 pm 2:13 pm

Of course that silly study doesn’t explain why so many conservatives run successful businesses and employ such a vast number of the public. So I guess my name is very appropriate.

Posted by: low intelligence | February 2, 2012, 2:13 pm 2:13 pm

Yes, that’s right – prejudiced, conservative people are the innovative thinkers of science and business. I’m sure for instance running a restaurant requires the vast intelligence of an Einstein.

Posted by: Stud | February 2, 2012, 2:19 pm 2:19 pm

Whereas prejudiced low life liberals couldn’t run and make money at a lemonade stand in the desert.

Posted by: stud | February 2, 2012, 2:25 pm 2:25 pm

Well , it’s pretty obvious who is winning this argument . Anyway , I’m with Jesus. Pay your taxes , or move away to somewhere else if you don’t want to do that . No one is forcing anyone to pay US taxes at all . If you don’t like paying taxes or the amount you pay then vote with your feet . Don’t worry , we’ll be fine without you . Haiti has really low taxes , Angola , Sudan , etc. So there you go tax haters , a plethora of immigration friendly tax free havens for you and the family galore . .Hmmmm. Not packing yet ? I wonder why…

Posted by: Jim_Taylor61 | February 2, 2012, 2:25 pm 2:25 pm

-More right-wingers whining about class envy and warfare?? I have another melancholy little tune for you….

Posted by: the world's tiniest violin | February 2, 2012, 2:26 pm 2:26 pm

Yes, that’s right – prejudiced, conservative people are the innovative thinkers of science and business. I’m sure for instance running a restaurant requires the vast intelligence of an Einstein.

POSTED BY: STUD | FEBRUARY 2, 2012, 2:19 PM—How many successful restaurants do you own?

Posted by: Sarah in Philly | February 2, 2012, 2:27 pm 2:27 pm

Of course that silly study doesn’t explain why so many conservatives run successful businesses and employ such a vast number of the public.

Posted by: low intelligence | February 2, 2012, 2:13 pm 2:13 pm

What was it Bush and the Republicans campaigned on? Running the government like a business, eliminating deficits and cutting down the debt – sound familiar?

And what did that really mean? Overspending, doubling the national debit, borrowing heavily from China while overspending and then watching the country plunge into an economic collapse.

You really don’t expect us to buy this nonsense twice?

Posted by: Not Again Never | February 2, 2012, 2:27 pm 2:27 pm

WWJD is not extravagant vacations in Hawaii and Maratha’s Vineyard, White House parties and ceaseless golf outings! President Obama should demonstrate humility with his actions not words!

Posted by: Common _ Sense | February 2, 2012, 2:28 pm 2:28 pm

Whereas prejudiced low life liberals couldn’t run and make money at a lemonade stand in the desert.

Posted by: stud | February 2, 2012, 2:25 pm 2:25 pm

There’s the intelligence, wit and decency of the Republicans on display for you. No wonder people are moving away from the Republicans in droves and the President’s approval ratings are trending up.

Posted by: Silver | February 2, 2012, 2:32 pm 2:32 pm

Thought I’d take a look at the comments on this one. Gee, all the conservative haters are out in full force today. I mean, that’s what Jesus told us to do, right? Hate…

Posted by: Paganini | February 2, 2012, 2:34 pm 2:34 pm

Dr. Gordon Hodson, a professor of psychology at the university and the study’s lead author, said the finding represented evidence of a vicious cycle: People of low intelligence gravitate toward socially conservative ideologies, which stress resistance to change and, in turn, prejudice, he told LiveScience.

Posted by: Low intelligence | February 2, 2012, 2:05 pm 2:05 pm

Hodson is obviously a racist. Most African-Americans and Hispanics are socially conservative. In California, while African-Americans voted 70% in favor of Proposition 8, and Hispanics 53%, only 49% of whites voted in favor. Looks like your name matches your posts.

Posted by: Libs Are Hypocrites | February 2, 2012, 2:34 pm 2:34 pm

Posted by: Common _ Sense | February 2, 2012, 2:28 pm 2:28 pm

So everybody who takes a vacation in a warm place or golfs now and then is anti-Jesus? Man you guys are light weight thinkers.

Posted by: Biff | February 2, 2012, 2:34 pm 2:34 pm

Did you know that this violin fits snugly up by behind?

Posted by: The world'd tiniest violin | February 2, 2012, 2:35 pm 2:35 pm

Posted by: Not Again Never | February 2, 2012, 2:27 pm 2:27 pm

Yawn.

Posted by: Mary | February 2, 2012, 2:35 pm 2:35 pm

I’m confident Americans from all walks of life will be drawn to my simple message, that the future of our country depends on keeping my taxes really really low.

Posted by: mitt the ripper | February 2, 2012, 2:41 pm 2:41 pm

Thought I’d take a look at the comments on this one. Gee, all the conservative haters are out in full force today. I mean, that’s what Jesus told us to do, right? Hate…

Posted by: Paganini | February 2, 2012, 2:34 pm 2:34 pm

*****

Posted by: Dan | February 2, 2012, 2:43 pm 2:43 pm

There’s the intelligence, wit and decency of the Republicans on display for you. No wonder people are moving away from the Republicans in droves and the President’s approval ratings are trending up.

POSTED BY: SILVER | FEBRUARY 2, 2012, 2:32 PM —Really? Thats the best you got? LOL!!! Obamas approval ratings bouncing around in the mid 40′s doesn’t add up to a winner in November. Weiners dem seat of 90 years is gone to the repubs. Virginia is now in full control by the repubs for the first time in years. Dims got shellacked in 2010. Ohio severely spanked Obamacare in a public vote this November. Obama and Romney are in a dead heat with Obamas approval ratings only above 50 percent in 10 states and at 50.1 in California……thats libby capital. Obama is behind in every one of the 10 swing states he needs to win. Obama…one and done baby….get use to it.

Posted by: frank | February 2, 2012, 2:47 pm 2:47 pm

Of course I’m a Christian—it’s just that some guy put glass stones on his eyes and looked into a hat and saw all kinds of wonderful things….like we can have more than one wife!

Posted by: mitt the Ripper | February 2, 2012, 2:48 pm 2:48 pm

Amen! That’s why I love my President! I am a Christian and in studying the teachings of our Lord ( I authored a book titled “How Would Jesus Invest? Breaking the Poor Man’s Mentality) and Savior Jesus Christ, which many of you conservative Republicans claim to have a relationship with, he clearly believed in paying taxes (he pulled a coin out of a fish’s mouth and instructed his disciples to render unto Caesar what belonged to him….And yes, if one has been blessed over and above, they should be willing to bless also over and above. Yes, the President is the leader of ALL the people and should have concerns for ALL of the people, the very rich, middle-class , and the very poor.

Posted by: GayleG | February 2, 2012, 2:52 pm 2:52 pm

Posted by: frank | February 2, 2012, 2:47 pm 2:47 pm

But Bush!

Posted by: Silver | February 2, 2012, 2:53 pm 2:53 pm

Liberals: People who don’t believe in Christianity or spirituality of any type until it suits them. Separation of State and Religion Obama.

Posted by: Xen Mistress | February 2, 2012, 2:53 pm 2:53 pm

I mean, that’s what Jesus told us to do, right? Hate…
Posted by: Paganini | February 2, 2012, 2:34 pm—-Who is this jesus that you speak of???

Posted by: pagan conservative | February 2, 2012, 2:54 pm 2:54 pm

In another indication of the difficulty President Obama’s reelection campaign faces, only 36 percent of likely voters grade the administration’s handling of the economy at good or excellent, according to a new Rasmussen poll.

In a national survey of 1,000 likely voters January 31-February 1, a whopping 62 percent grade the president at fair to poor, with poor collecting the largest number: 45 percent.

Posted by: Here's Your Change | February 2, 2012, 2:58 pm 2:58 pm

Posted by: frank | February 2, 2012, 2:47 pm 2:47 pm

President Obama is at 48% approval rating in two major national polls. He’s at 47% approval rating in 3 more national polls. That’s better than Reagan at this point. He leads every Republican candidate in almost every poll. He leads Romney in 7 out of 9 polls.

People do not trust the Republicans, and with good reason.

Posted by: Just the Facts | February 2, 2012, 3:03 pm 3:03 pm

Gee, all the conservative haters are out in full force today. I mean, that’s what Jesus told us to do, right? Hate…

Posted by: Paganini | February 2, 2012, 2:34 pm 2:34 pm

Jesus hated evil.

Posted by: Stu | February 2, 2012, 3:05 pm 3:05 pm

Jesus = the unwashed long haired libby who told you to stfu and pay your taxes ! How revolting ! Bad Savior !

Posted by: jamesdean1960 | February 2, 2012, 3:05 pm 3:05 pm

Davem,thanks for standing up for our President.Not only is Mr. Obama an excellent student and Constiitutional Law Professor, he has passed the Bar and can legally practice Law as an attorney. Romney never passed the Bar and does not have an active Law license like Mr Obama does. Give me a President who can practice law, not somebody who just got a ticket punched!

Posted by: gobama | February 2, 2012, 3:07 pm 3:07 pm

Justthefacts said That’s better than Reagan at this point.—–Obama at 46% percent. Reagan at the same point in his first term 55% per Gallup today. Not even close. So much for the facts huh?

Posted by: darla | February 2, 2012, 3:12 pm 3:12 pm

Justthefacts said That’s better than Reagan at this point.—–Obama at 46% percent. Reagan at the same point in his first term 55% per Gallup today.

Posted by: darla | February 2, 2012, 3:12 pm 3:12 pm

Oh that’s right, Reagan’s approval ratings hit 35% in January 1983.

Posted by: Just the Facts | February 2, 2012, 3:22 pm 3:22 pm

Posted by: Just the Facts | February 2, 2012, 3:03 pm 3:03 pm
Posted by: Just the Facts | February 2, 2012, 3:22 pm 3:22 pm

You wouldn’t know a fact if it jumped up and smacked you. Unlike Obama, Reagan didn’t hate America. Americans were much more united and optimistic back then compared to now. A 2011 Gallup Poll showed that Americans are most likely to say Ronald Reagan was the nation’s greatest president.

Posted by: Bill | February 2, 2012, 3:24 pm 3:24 pm

If President Obama asked me to euthanize my pets to reduce global warming I would gladly comply. I love him that much.

Posted by: Just the Facts | February 2, 2012, 3:28 pm 3:28 pm

Posted by: gobama | February 2, 2012, 3:07 pm 3:07 pm

Anybody else suspect ‘Gobama’ is Nephron trying to pass himself off as a phony Obama supporter. The giveaway is the missing spaces after the punctuation, and the lame attempt in general.

Posted by: gobama fraud | February 2, 2012, 3:32 pm 3:32 pm

Under the Reagan administration, the national debt tripled.

The Reagan administration ran an illegal shadow government that conducted illegal activities beyond the view of the democracy that elected him, and out of the view of Congress. These activities were illegal and unconstitutional. Criminal charges were brought and people in Reagan’s administration were convicted.

This is your definition of ‘loving America’. You should go back to the communist block.

Posted by: Just the Facts | February 2, 2012, 3:36 pm 3:36 pm

Oh that’s right, Reagan’s approval ratings hit 35% in January 1983.

posted by just the facts;;;;;;;;Apology accepted. As long as you realize that your previous post was totally WRONG!

Posted by: darla | February 2, 2012, 3:31 pm 3:31 pm

Always willing to admit when I’m wrong because it happens so seldom. Unlike Chuck who lies repeatedly and doesn’t have the common decency to admit it.

Posted by: Just the Facts | February 2, 2012, 3:39 pm 3:39 pm

“A 2011 Gallup Poll showed that Americans are most likely to say Ronald Reagan was the nation’s greatest president”

-because he greatly increased both borrowing and spending.

Posted by: lil history | February 2, 2012, 3:41 pm 3:41 pm

Posted by: Dan | February 2, 2012, 3:47 pm 3:47 pm

If the ‘republican right’ stopped paying taxes you’d be dumpster diving to stay alive!

Posted by: Sad But True | February 2, 2012, 3:53 pm 3:53 pm

I like conservative men , teabagging them I mean . Yum !!

Posted by: Sad But True | February 2, 2012, 4:00 pm 4:00 pm

Hypocrisy and hate ooze from the Republican right – it’s pretty repulsive.

Posted by: Dan | February 2, 2012, 3:47 pm 3:47 pm

And in minutes they illustrate your point for you.

Posted by: Joanne | February 2, 2012, 4:01 pm 4:01 pm

And how juvenile they are.

Posted by: Joanne | February 2, 2012, 4:04 pm 4:04 pm

If the Republican right started paying taxes fairly we wouldn’t even need to joke about dumpster diving .

Posted by: gobama | February 2, 2012, 4:07 pm 4:07 pm

If the Republican right started paying taxes fairly we wouldn’t even need to joke about dumpster diving .

POSTED BY: GOBAMA | FEBRUARY 2, 2012, 4:07 PM—Lets see…Little Timmy Geithner and Charlie Rangel come to mind…..just as a start.

Posted by: gobama | February 2, 2012, 4:12 pm 4:12 pm

Jesus was a communist. He believed all virtue flows from big government. When He said love thy neighbor he meant tax thy neighbor. Coerce thy neighbor into doing what you think is right.

Posted by: Carlos | February 2, 2012, 4:52 pm 4:52 pm

Obama was a practicing Muslim for too long – apparently he does not know the teachings of Christ. Chist was the Son of God, and God gave us the following rules: Thou Shalt not Steal, Thou Shalt not covet thy neighbor’s goods, Obama is doing both. Christ would not support higher taxes – he would support taxpayers being charitable – but giving directly to charities, not to an oppressive government that takes money from its citizens to forward its own designs and serve its own needs and wants. Giving more money to the government is not virtuous or honorable because the government is not efficient and it does not distribute money to the needy, it is rampant with fraud and abuse and money is given out as political paybacks. Also, God only asked for 10% of your income in thanks for all he has given – He would never believe any human entity or government body is deserving of more than what we owe to God – because they aren’t.

Posted by: R. Wroblewski | February 2, 2012, 5:08 pm 5:08 pm

Posted by: Carlos | February 2, 2012, 4:52 pm 4:52 pm

No, Jesus was a Republican right wing money speculator who believed he should be taxed at a far lower rate than the poor and the working stiffs who are ruining the country for the rich and that if everybody but the rich would just shut up and work for whatever we want to pay them and let us outsource the jobs to sweat shops around the world, then life would be a far better place.

Posted by: Janny | February 2, 2012, 5:29 pm 5:29 pm

Posted by: R. Wroblewski | February 2, 2012, 5:08 pm 5:08 pm

If Jesus were alive today, he’d be working on Wall Street or a speech writer putting together lies for Romney.

Posted by: Fred | February 2, 2012, 5:38 pm 5:38 pm

Jesus would not be an elected official and to say he would do this or do that is illogical. We live in two worlds, the material and the spirit. One affects the other, it’s a personal decision which one you prioritize in your life. The Bible clearly says that the spirit is eternal while the material is finite. Each person shapes their spiritual life by what they do in their material life. We can throw Jesus’ name around all we want but unless we look into our own selves it’ll do no good. Jesus already accomplished his purpose in the material world, he will next do the same in the spiritual world. No one knows when that will be but we should all be prepared. The Bible says you will be judged on what you did in your life, not your government.

Posted by: Todd | February 3, 2012, 5:19 am 5:19 am

It is very easy from reading these comments to tell who lives their religion and who just attends services, perhaps prays but doesn’t really follow the very clear message within.
“It would be easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than a rich man to enter the kingdom of heaven.”
It can’t be any clearer than that. It is a very strong statement for ending tax breaks for millionaires. President Obama is correct to bring this to the attention of the public.
Our country needs help to pay off the two wars we have been involved in, the need to borrow because of the Bush tax cuts for the wealthy and to pay for all the additional expenses of the recent banking industry greed induced almost-Depression. For the very rich to not see it as their duty to help, but instead want the poor and middle-class to give up necessities so the wealthy can continue to grow their wealth at the same fast pace, is sinful.

Posted by: Librarian53 | February 3, 2012, 11:18 am 11:18 am

In my profession, I see the effects of government programs and government spending every day. Taking more money from people and giving it to the government will do nothing to help anyone – all it will do is create more fraud, more abuse, and more waste. The government does not and has never done anything that cannot be done more efficiently and effectively by the private sector. The only people that are in favor of higher taxes are the leakers that constantly have their hands out and the corrupt officials that buy votes with our tax dollars.Why are so many of you jealous of rich people? Wouldn’t you like to be rich someday? i would. Taking more money from the rich will not do anything to benefit you in any way, it won’t make you rich. a lot of “millionaires” that run small businesses file their taxes as people, because they are not incorporated (they also are not millionaires in reality, only on paper). taking more from them will take away from their businesses and hurt employment, but this is something that Obama, and a lot of you, don’t understand – no wonder he never released his grades – based on what he demonstrates that he knows, they are propbably pretty low. P.S. In biblical times, the eye of a needle was a small door inside of a larger door to the city, which prevented large hordes from entering all at once. It was not impossible for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, but very difficult – so Christ did not say it was impossible for a rich person to enter heaven – which is probably what a lot of you think he said.

Posted by: J Benton | February 3, 2012, 1:32 pm 1:32 pm

in response to Todd- Nobody is talking about tax breaks for millionaires, thast is a term used by the demagouges to divide the country. This Warren Buffet ? Obama fiasco about his secretary paying less in taxes than he does is a big lie. He is taxed differently because his earnings are on money that was already taxed before it was invested as capital gains. What is a fair tax rate for anyone? is it fair that some people pay half of their income already while others pay nothing? Who are you to say how much money someone else should give in taxes? The government should not get more money, because all it does is create a bigger government that takes more freedom from us. Taking more money from the people will not solve any problems, just create more. Obama spent far more money on his bogus stimulus plan – that did nothing – than we spent on any wars in the last ten years. If you think taking more tax money from any class does anything to help anyone – you need to wake up and smell the coffee. The only thing that will help this country is to get government under control and make the lords in Washington live withing their means – like the rest of us have to. Unlike you – some of us want to live in a free country with a limited government – which is what our Constitution says our country should be. If you want to be a willing slave to the government – go to a different country, there are several where this type of life already exists, but don’t try to create that type of country here.

Posted by: termite10 | February 3, 2012, 1:49 pm 1:49 pm

So this just shows you how little this president knows about scripture. Obama uses part of Luke 12:48″ Everyone to whom much was given, of him much will be required” to say those that are wealthy have a greater responsibility to those who don’t. Now the bible doesn’t qualify how rich a person is when it comes to taking care of the sick and hungry. A much better scripture would be Matthew 25:40 “Truly, I say to you, as you did it to one of the least of these my brothers, you did it to me.” This is the call for everyone no matter what their financial situation. The burden is on all believers and it isn’t something to be mandated by the government.

So, what does the passage in Luke 12:48 the President quoted actually mean? Well, Jesus was talking directly to his disciples. Jesus tells his disciples a parable about a servant who is looking over the household until the master returns. It also talks about the severe punishment that would come from the master for abusing the position he has been given. Peter then asks Jesus if he is referring to the disciples or to everyone. Jesus replies, “Who then is the faithful and wise manager, whom his master will set over his household, to give them their portion of food at the proper time?” Jesus is talking about the people that God calls into authority over the church “household” (i.e. the disciples, pastors, missionaries, etc.) This is not limited to just those with an official title. If you read the verses before (which I’m sure our leader did) in verses 46 & 47 Jesus tells of how the servant that knew his masters will and still disobeyed would be beaten more harshly than the servant who was ignorant to the master’s will. It does not however excuse ignorance but it does show contempt for those who willfully disobey.

And when Jesus says that the manager is there to give them their portion of food at the proper time he is not talking about actual food. The manager is watching for the return of the master, for us that is the return of Jesus. The manager is in charge of feeding the household, for us that is preaching the gospel and preparing us and the church (household) for Christ’s return.

So what? this verse isn’t really about rich people? Well how many rich disciples where there? Well I guess Judas died with a bag full of gold. Since he was given much (gold) I suppose he would have been the only disciple who God would have expected to take care of the poor if he hand’t hung himself first. If only he had our very spiritual leader there to tell him just what Jesus was talking about.

Posted by: Hal Sandifer | February 4, 2012, 11:54 pm 11:54 pm

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