Joe Biden Advised Against the Osama Bin Laden Raid

News media trying to prop up the President again. We all know Biden is a dunce and any person in his right mind would OK the hit on Bin Ladien. Let’s talk about the Presidents record in the last three years. Worse than terrible!

It’s called leadership. Can anyone imagine Mitt or Newt in the same situation?

FREEDOM” “Let’s talk about the Presidents record in the last three years. Worse than terrible!”

Ok, let’s.

Full-scale Depression averted.
23 straight months of private sector job growth.
3.2 million private sector jobs created (of the 8.75 million we LOST under and immedicately following the Bush administration).
bin Laden dead (and 40 or so other terrorist kingpins dead or detained).
Gadaffi, one of the biggest backers of terrorism in the world, dead.
The Iraq war over.
American hostages rescued from Somali pirates with no loss of American life.
Bush’s TARP money all PAID BACK, with interest.
2nd year in a row the U.S. has EXPORTED more oil than it imports.

It is one thing to argue that he could have done BETTER, but to argue that he has made things WORSE is completely unsupportable.

Posted by: Sad But True | January 30, 2012, 1:35 pm 1:35 pm

Over $1.25 TRILLION of the debt ‘attributed’ to Obama is actually interest of the debt Bush left.

All ot the unemployment benefits you mention, the housing foreclosures, the hundreds of thousands of obs being lost as Obama took office, the jobless rate, the food stamps – ALL of these things are directly attributable to the economic collapse on Bush’s watch.

Gas prices in 2008 under Bush hit $4.12 per gallon. They’re now down at $3.37 per gallon. Gas prices briefly dipped very low during the economic crash – not a smart way to lower gas prices.

That’s all of your points show to be completely bogus. Next.

The Republicans offer the same policies – cut taxes on the rich and deregulate industry and business – exactly what they offered under Bush. We saw the results of that – no thanks.

Obama publicly identified the Navy SEALS, our most elite and most highly-trained special operations forces, as Bin Laden’s shooters for a photo op so that he could attach his name to them.

Posted by: Justin | January 30, 2012, 2:05 pm 2:05 pm

Nonsense. Even as early as 2009, there were 2,500 active duty SEALs. Nobody was identified.

And there was no ‘photo op’ with the Navy SEALS at all.

JUSTIN

I don’t know where you get your figures but they seem awful shady.

When did President Obama publically identify the SEALs, I haven’t seen any photos of them. When were SEALs in Afghanistan targeted and killed? If you’re talking about the helicopter that went down, it wasn’t targeted because SEALs were aboard.

Do you honestly believe this President or any President would risk military lives for political expediency. We are not talking about going into Iraq or do you blame George Bush for the lives lost there too.

Posted by: Jack | January 30, 2012, 2:20 pm 2:20 pm

There was a photo op when the 30 dead SpecOps heroes returned to Dover AFB. Photo showed Obama saluting in silhouette. Distributed all over the world. Very exploitative. Really angered the SEAL families too. Every spook I’ve ever talked to thinks Obama is a tool.

Maybe Obama should decree that the price of gas will be set at a specific (and much lower) price from here on out. Is that what you want?

Posted by: A Cynic | January 30, 2012, 2:37 pm 2:37 pm

Yes. Just like Venezuela. I so wish we could be like them. Maybe in Obama’s second term.

“He knew what was at stake, not just the lives of those brave warriors, but literally the presidency,” Biden said.

Over-blown crock of Cow Droppings.
They didn’t need to send in Seal Team 6 if they were worried about the lives of our elite soldiers. A half dozen cruise missiles would have done the trick. Also Clinton bombed locations in that area and it didn’t even put a small dent in the Presidency.
Pfffttt!!!!

Has anyone took time out to THINK…. Bin Laden wasn’t hiding.. He was in plain sight.. It was Obama who said, we are going to stop wasting money, time, and lives and settle this.. He got the job done and now our love ones are coming home…. And you are suppose to send the best in on a mission with that high of an importance… If they just bombed the place they wouldn’t have been able to identify if he was truly dead. One thing I can say is, he is getting stuff done.. It may not be the best but at least he isn’t in the White House playing around…. When Obama gets another term we will really see an up swing…

MSM trying to prop up a failed Presidency. We will see a lot of this before the next election when we can throw the food stamp President, the incompetent man-child out of an office that he will never gown into.

Biden is the “costanza ” of foreign policy. Just ask what he would do and do the opposite.

But BIDEN thought it was OK for the FBI to attack and kill 85 men, women and children in Waco, Texas. Hey Joe make up your mind is killing OK or NOT. obama needs to know before he declares martial law in October 2012 to help his re-election now that he has the NDAA law.

Biden is a fool and a idiot. If it were up to him we’d all be wearing towels and burkas.

The libs and the media are propping up Panetta for something. hes getting all sorts of face time.

Something is up with those clowns

(disclaimer – I voted for Obama) Common guys, this shows how smart Obama is and why he chose Joe Biden, who helps him with every decision. Policy #1 – Ask Joe his view, what ever he says do the opposite. Confidence interval of getting it right this way – 95%

Is this the beginning of another MSM narrative?…Which ends with Biden gone and Hillary on the ticket….So Democrats can collectively say “I’m sorry” to eachother for Obama?

Maybe not, but we’re expecting something like this to pop-up.

I like Joe. He’s the only politician who makes me laugh. The rest scare me.

He knew the presidency was at stake? Going into an election year, yeah that sounds about right.

Biden is such an idiot that he thinks people will respect Obama more if they know he made the correct decision regarding OBL. All it proves is that Obama’s choice of a running mate was another horrible decision in a string of many.

I’m a conservative Republican, and as far as I’m concerned President Obama had the courage to do what was needed to do! I absolutely hate Obama bashing! The President was elected by the majority and we need to treat him with respect. Had this mission gone sideways, he should have been treated with respect as well. As far as the outcome of this mission, my hat is off to the President for his risk taking. He’s also tried to treat the world with an open hand policy, and the world has basically turned their backs on an opportunity for a fresh start. He tried. As a Republican, I appreciate the hard line, this is the United States, we’re the greatest. He tried the Liberal side with an open hand, and the bottom line, is that neither way really works. Like every president before him, he is getting grey.

I don’t need to agree with the President’s views, because we live in this great country, we have the luxury of our own! It seems that I need to switch to the Independent party side, just so I’m not clumped in with the Rednecks!

This is the reason the maniac wasnt caught for so long, because all these politicians were pussies (afraid to do anything). Thank goodness Obama did one great thing as President, go in and kill that SOB! Too bad that about sums up his Presidency!

Mitt Romney called Obama “dangerous” in 2008 for saying he would go into Pakistan to take out Bin Laden without approval. Of course as with everything else, Mitt flip flopped on this after the successful raid and said of course he would have done the same thing. Ignore his previous comments otherwise.

I have never seen more delusional sheeple!!!!!!

“The trouble with our liberal friends isn’t that they are ignorant; it is that they know so much that isn’t so.”

- President Ronald Reagan

What’s the difference between a liberal and a puppy?
A puppy stops whining after it grows up.

Yawn.

There is no need for the VP position anymore. Really and truly. Save the taxpayer money and spend it on something else.

Admiral William McRaven says Obama is the smartest guy in the room and said that he has leadership skils we’d expect from a guy with 35 years military experience, and McRaven has been in Special Ops for decades. He said Americans should be proud of the decision making process in regards to this raid. That is some top drawer butt kissing, but this guy wouldn’t be saying it if it wasn’t true, his colleagues would wig out most likely.

Wow, republicans argue facts with farse. pres Obama cant win with these middle American inbreds.
He kills Binladen – bin laden’s been dead since 04′, he’s saves GM and thousands of American jobs/economy – he’s sending jobs to mexico, he salutes fallen solders – its a photo op. he wants all americans to have health care – he wants the government to control you….

If only you people could see how galactically insane you all sound. Its really scary, Thanks to you all, I can show my kids the importance of an education.

That a girl Jenny. It’s ALL Bush’s fault. Keep up that line clear into November.

Did anyone advise against the cover up?

Osama Obama Biden (Bi)n La(den)
One coincidence? Two coincidences?
I bet you thought Obama caught Osama 3 days after releasing his birth certificate

The next election is shaping up to be as big of a sham as the last. Do you know why Sarah Palin’s bus tour was really canceled? Do you know why she stayed 30 miles away from the second debate and chose the death of Steve Jobs to announce that she’s not running? Know what leaked out? Sarah Palin and Cain aren’t in the race for the same reason, the truth leaked out. Search PalinsDirtyLittleSecret for the biggest cover up in history

So the last thing Biden said was not just the lives of the Brave Warriors, but literally, the Presidency. Whoa! Breath taker, I gasped, this is no surprise that the decadence of those who fill the positions of the Oval Office justbseeps from every mainstream media report. No longer is justice, or dignity, or the honor upheld for all the deaths of the soldiers that have died fighting this objectiveless war. In the beginning it was we will hunt down those who tore down these buildings. Then when they found them a few blocks away dancing on top of a van with a mural n the side of a plane going into a building nobody blinked we bombed Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Linhart, Sudan and now maybe Iran. Why stop the momentum? So now we find out it was literally to save Obama’s Presidency. With a name like that we just didn’t see it coming I guess. The spin was he was a Muslim. Then when he was bombing them all we thought what’s in a name.
Well I will finish with this to the current Administration, I know you are not channeling JFK so get off that nonsense, ask not what you can do for your country but what can your country do to salvage your political power, ….Literally!

figures the one thing obama administration did well biden opposes. He is a bigger idiot than obama

Republicans love to post LIES, but they never include any links to sources. Wonder why.
Republicans still try to blame democrats for the republican great depression.
The facts show that republicans looted trillions, started a modern great depression and were FIRED by voters in Nov 2006.

Both pelosi and obama walked into massive runaway record deficits and an economy in total freefall.
FY 2000 – 236 Billion SURPLUS – Clinton
FY 2001 – 128 Billion SURPLUS – Clinton
FY 2002 – 158 Billion Deficit – Bush/Republican congress
FY 2003 – 378 Billion Deficit – Bush/Republican congress
FY 2004 – 413 Billion Deficit – Bush/Republican congress
FY 2005 – 318 Billion Deficit – Bush/Republican congress
FY 2006 – 248 Billion Deficit – Bush/Republican congress
FY 2007 – 161 Billion Deficit – Bush/Republican congress (passed by republicans in 2006)
(Deficit numbers DO NOT include war spending which Bush kept “off-budget”)

FY 2008 – 468 Billion Deficit – Bush/Democrat congress (dems gave 170 Billion in tax rebate checks)
Source: CBO – Congressional Budget Office – Historical Data (search for “cbo doc10871 historical” for proof)

Bush turned a budget surplus into a record 1.3 TRILLION deficit which would add trillions in new debt to Obama’s tab. On Jan. 8, 2009, two weeks before Obama took office, the Congressional Budget Office testified before Congress that the deficit for fiscal year 2009 would be at least $1.2 trillion and probably more if a stimulus bill was passed.
(search for “cbo doc9958″ for proof) (The 2009 deficit ended Sept. 30, 2009 at $1.4 trillion)

The next fiscal year, 2010, the first full year under entire democrat control, the deficit FELL 8.6% from 1.4 to 1.3 trillion. (search for “cbo doc11936″ for proof)
Republicans won the house in Nov 2010 and forced their tax cuts for billionaires on America…now the deficit is projected to rise from 1.3 to 1.5 trillion in FY 2011. (Source: cbo doc12039)

Before 2009, Reagan held the record for the largest deficit since WW2 at 6.1% of GDP in fiscal year 1983) (Source: cbo 5056) Reagan STILL holds the record for increasing our debt.

Reagan increased our debt an average of 23% yearly…he TRIPLED it from 934B to 2.6T (186%)
Bush increased our debt an average of 11% yearly…he DOUBLED it from 5.7 to 10.6T (86%)
Obama increased our debt an average of 16% yearly from 10.6 to 14T (inherited massive deficits)
Source: US Treasury Dept. (search for “debt to the penny” for proof)

Our debt increased by 3.4 trillion in Obama’s first 2 years. Bush’s runaway 1.3 trillion deficit added 2.6 trillion and Obama added 787 billion from the jobs stimulus package. Of the 787 billion, one-third of that was tax cuts so Obama actually only had 500 billion in “new” spending.

Please get the facts people…don’t be tricked by the lies, the paid bloggers and fake news websites/channels started by billionaire republican activists.

Lets have an American party for all Americans then just maybe we could all get along

My understanding is that the operation went quite a bit differently than the fictional narrative portrayed in the media.

Posted by: Matt | January 30, 2012, 7:32 pm 7:32 pm

Your understanding. Oh yes, that must be the correct version.

In a group of Incompetents, Joe Biden leads the Pack. He is amazing in his Incompetence; and beyond belief in his buffoonery. A disgraceful man in a most disgraceful administration.

Don’t know why this is news. Everybody knows what an idiot Biden is. Don’t know why the Presidents continue to take credit for operations like the Bin Laden either. 100% of the credit should go to the military people who carried out the operations. Their butts were the ones that were on the line.

Just imagine how much worse we would be if McCain and Palin had taken over. What a nightmare! Interesting that there has been NO soul searching or self examination of the Republicans concerning the last disastrous Republican administration. They won’t talk about it, will they. That’s why you see no difference in the policies they are advocating. Same thing over and over. Ask them how to create jobs? “Reduce taxes for industry and loosen regulation”. Sound familiar?

All you people blaming the Obama economy on Bush fail over and over to state who was in control of the house and congress…The president alone cannot make the decisions that were made that brought this economy down. The dems were in control from 2006 – 2010 and since have still had majority control…you can prop this tool up all you want but any intelligent person would realize who is responsibe for the collapse…keep preaching you lies, less and less people are believing them…

Regarding Biden…Stupid is what Stupid does!

Does anyone in this absurd, backwards, pathetic Administration know how to keep a National secret? I think not.

im tryin g to think of ANYTHING biden did correctly.Give me a couple years

Great job, Obama administration! They won’t give you credit for anything, I will!

No biggie. Nobody with any sense at all would take Bidens advise on anything.

Great job, Seal Team 6!

COME ON…….They keep beating it into your head…

IF YOU SPEAK OF DETAILS OF AN EVENT THAT NEVER HAPPENED, IT SEEMS REALISTIC. IF YOU REPEAT A LIE ENOUGH, IT BECOMES TRUTH…

Obama Killed Osama and dumped his body in the Ocean…….yeah. That’s the Biggest D@mn conspiracy theory I have ever heard…

Don’t fall into, WAKE UP….RED PILL, RED PILL

Thanks for being so generous Joe….but I’m going to keep a very low profile for the benefit of my Party.

they hemmed and hawed, deliberated, slept on it.

the truth gets out. following the lead originated by Cheney’s enhanced interrogation unit, the obama administration had a high confidence report on Osama’s location, and almost let him go without firing a shot.

what a difference from the quick and heavy commitment Bush made to tora bora, where our troops almost got him in the early days of the war on terror.

by the time Obama nabbed him, Osama was in a dark hole hiding behind one of his wives. this president is a disgrace.

You democrats are so misinformed. The wars in Iraq and Afghanistan are chump change compared to what we are paying on social programs. Social programs are what is busting the budget, not those two “wars”. And would you pansies have not gone into Afghanistan? They were the ones that were responsible for 9/11. They let Bin Ladin train there and gave him protection. I guess we shouldn’t have invaded to wipe out the taliban and Bin Laden? So take that off your idiotic whine list because even Obama supported that “war”. And the problem with obama is that he took a bad economic situation and made it worse. He is hindering the recovery. We would be in full recovery mode if it weren’t for his policies of rewarding failure and punishing success. The republicans aren’t perfect, but the are the answer to the problems we have now. And any attempt to say that all of the country’s problems are the result of republican policies is just ridiculous. Most of the problems Bush dealth with were caused by Clinton. If you deny that, you are a partisan that can’t think straight.

Gosh, I’m sure Obama considered Biden’s opinion
What a joke. Trying to make Obama look like “The Man Who Know Best”

Joe was the primary proponent of the anti-terrorism strategy over the anti-insurgency strategy in Af/Pak and elsewhere. He definitely won that argument.

We would be in full recovery mode if it weren’t for his policies of rewarding failure and punishing success.
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Just keep on telling working class Americans that they’re failures, and guys like Mitt Romney deserve more huge tax breaks…….it’s going to work wonders for you this election.

obama is dropping our military making us look like fools we will all be smoked as many other countrys are ramping up there military while we all ban guns and drop military i believe all americans should all have to carry weapons on them because war is coming and you ignorant people arent ready and will be begging us gun owners 2 help u

“Posted by: Publius Elect the POS for a second term and you’ll find the civil war may occur a bit quicker than you think”

Now I told you–don’t have a hissy-fit if you don’t get your way….

I DO NOT BELIEVE they killed Bin Laden. This was a fake story to make our “Illegal President” look good. Bin Laden died many years ago due to kidney failure.

If Joe Biden had advised O’Bama to go for it, Osama would be alive today. When Biden said “no,” it became a no-brainer for the President to send in Seal Team 6. So much for the decision making at the Whitehouse.

Why on earth would anyone ask Biden what he thinks about something as important as killing BinLaden??? Has he ever added any value?

The Honorable Leon Panetta, is a leader and a man who knows how to make smart decisions. Warning to Iran….Don’t underestimate our Secretary of Defense.

And he’s a whole order of magnitude more honest than his boss.

People are sheeple and will believe anything. We have more evidence that prove that bin laden was dead 10 years ago than we do that he was recently killed in a raid. The story kept changing, more than i’ve ever seen for reporting. They not only refused to show a picture but rushed a sea burial that was not even part of mulsim tradition as they claimed. The video they released of bin laden never showed his face, he looked more like some bum off the street that was paid to sit on some dingy floor and watch CNN. Believe whatever you want to believe folks.

Admiral William McRaven says Obama is the smartest guy in the room and said that he has leadership skils we’d expect from a guy with 35 years military experience, and McRaven has been in Special Ops for decades. Uh, when the good Admiral sobered up did someone tell him what he said?

If Bush was so great why did Obama get in office? I guess you voted for him or you did not vote Obama was handed a pile of Crap???? Get a Life and a Job and stop blaming others

obama didn’t end the iraqi war, before the troops were forst sent, the congress had an end date
on the ok, it was 12-31-2011. so going in, we knew the iraqi war wouldn end 12-31-2011

Biden, one of 6 US Senators to vote against the Alaska Pipeline, what an idiot.

Let me see. 9/11 wasn’t the Republican”s fault. Weapons of mass destruction wasn’t the Republican’s fault. The housing bubble wasn’t the Republicans fault. The attack on Iraq wasn’t the Republicans fault. The deficits through the 2000′s weren’t the Republicans fault. The massive debt left wasn’t the Republicans fault. The sub-prime crisis wasn’t the Republicans fault. The collapse of the stock market wasn’t the Repubicans fault. The economic crash wasn’t the Republicans fault. The loss of millions of jobs wasn’t the Republicans fault. Nor the tens of thousand of bankruptcies.

But all the good things that have happened since Obama got elected are the responsibility of the Republicans.

Okay, I’ve got it now.

“The outgoing Clinton administration repeatedly warned the incoming Bush administration that a major attack was being planned . . . ” – right-wing amnesia remedies

That’s right but the Clinton administration didn’t ban the terrorists from taking flying lessons here in the states so that they could learn how to fly jets into buildings.

Noz Left-Wing Confusion Anecdote

fact; the last 2 years of the G W Bush administration the house and senate were controlled by the democrats.
The first 2 years of the Obama administration the house and senate were controlled by the democrats and for a time with super majorities in both. “could have passed everything they wanted)

Congress voted on an approved the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, and we still have solders being shot at in both!

Best thing I have heard Obama say is make illegal, insider trading in congress and make the members divest from investments in companies who could benefit from legislation.

The POTUS has been reduced over the past several administrations, it is the congress that needs to change

Well I can understand Biden’s hesitation.

We were getting ready to secretly and illegally enter a country that we were allies with,without their knowledge or consent.We were going to send young Americans in to harms way and that they may die from it.

Or even worse be captured. Biden has a son serving and did serve there.

Age and maturity bring wisdom,even to dumb as a rock Joe Biden.

The U.S Government wanted Bin Laden dead for other reasons. 9/11 Was done by OUR own Government. The UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT. To #$%$ the U.S citizens off so they could go to war because of oil Which had to do with Saddam Hussein. Saddam was about to sale the oil to Europe which would then make Europe a super power because they would own 2/3 of the worlds oil. The U.S was not about to let any country have that much power. They blew up the towers and created someone they wanted dead already as a scape goat which was Bin Laden. At that time the U.S citizens were tired of war and wanted our soldiers home. We were not going to allow another war especially over oil. So they take out towers that effected not just Americans but lots of other countries. Because to the Government we are expendable. They (U.S Government) will do anything in their power to protect their, MONEY, POWER, and CORRUPTION, they could care less who they kill. Wake up U.S The only Terrorist and Biggest threat to the U.S.A. Is the Unites States Government

If terrorism is such a big threat to us, why won’t Obama fully secure our borders?

Joe is a glibber with a careless tongue. Doesn’t look good on him . Certain things have to be kept secret.

Obama
Must
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POSTED BY: HOPE | JANUARY 30, 2012, 11:18 PM 11:18 PM_____________Really! LOL. Thanks for the laugh. If I were you, I wold start getting used to another Obama four years.

Lot of BS in this article, the presidency was not at stake. Obama waited anyway and Osama could have been out getting coke when the attack happened. It was worth a chance and had nothing to do with
getting re-elected unless he acted like a coward…

ummmm….Biden is an idiot. Obama needs to be confident enough to have another intelligent person working with him a vice president.

W. Bush was in charge when 3000 Americans died because of his administrations negligence. If the attack occured under an Obama administration, he would not get the support of the Republicans….the same way the Democrats supported Bush.

W. Bush had 3000 Americans die during his watch
W. Bush had 2 unfunded wars go wrong during his watch
W. Bush was in charge when 3,400 us soldiers died
W. Bush had the economy collapse during his watch

Yet Obama is a bad president??????

Obama ordered the Killing Bin Ladin; Bush just talked about it
Obama got us out of Iraq
Obama made NATO usefull again (Libya)
Private sector job growth every month since Obama took over

Unpatriotic is what you fools are.

From the comments that I’ve read, I can imagine the fact that Obama is President of the United States is creating so much stress to some, and driving others crazy. Take it from me, he will win a second term. He is a very good president.

Why would the presidency have been at stake? If the guy wasn’t there we never would have heard about the raid.

Obama’s worst sin is to saddle future generations with trillions of dollars in foreign debt. China OWNS this country, and things will get ugly when they call in that debt.

The real public debt, counting promises of future entitlements, now stands at over $250,000 per household. It is absolutely impossible for the Federal government to meet its obligations going forward. We are bankrupt. Period. If this government were a private business, or a private home, the windows would be boarded up and there would be a sheriff’s sale in the parking lot.

By what right do lawmakers cripple generations yet unborn with crushing debt? Who asked THEIR permission before we signed THEIR names to the contract? I can’t arbitrarily sign MY children to a contract without their knowledge or consent. But that’s exactly what the national debt is. WE aren’t going to pay it. Not even close. We’re spending TODAY and letting the future worry about our mess.

We need a balanced budget amendment. The simple concept of equal protection under the law REQUIRES such an amendment. Nobody is speaking for the people who will be expected to pay the debt. They have no voice. That is manifestly unfair and un-American. They get all the burden and none of the benefits. How do my future great-grandchildren benefit from me getting a taxpayer-funded mortgage bailout, or a tax credit for buying a new furnace, or some worthless crackhead getting a free apartment and food stamps? All they get is the BILL.

Obama’s worst sin is to saddle future generations with trillions of dollars in foreign debt. China OWNS this country, and things will get ugly when they call in that debt.

Posted by: Eric | January 31, 2012, 1:00 am 1:00 am

Over $1.25 TRILLION of the current debt ‘attributed’ to Obama resulted from interest on the debt George W. Bush left.

That’s just the interest on the debt Bush left, never mind the war commitments, the destroyed revenues due to the economic collapse on his watch, the huge demands on government resources resulting from the economic crash, the unpaid for seniors drug plan, the huge deficits from his tax cuts, and on and on.

You know things are getting desperate in the Obama Camp when they are invoking the reasoning skills of Joe Biden.

“Weren’t the 9/11 terrorists funded by the Pakistani Intelligence service and Bush didn’t even think it was important to investigate that. Why?”

They were funded by an immensely wealthy Arab billionaire named Osama bin Laden. Wake up, Mr. VanWinkle. Your Pakistan claim is a conspiracy theory.

Pakistan is a cesspool, and no doubt some Pakistanis were involved, but the government most directly responsible was the Taliban government of Afghanistan, who knowingly sheltered, aided and abetted Al Qaeda.

9-11 was perpetrated by ISLAM, with funding primarily from the Bin Laden family fortune.

If it was Pakistan, and not Osama bin Laden, then why are you liberals giving Barry the credit for murdering an innocent man? Pick a story and stick with it, please.

“With the Osama bin Laden raid in Pakistan, Obama, as president has shown no respect for international laws, no matter if bin Laden was an extremely dangerous criminal, a big MF for planning the 9/11 tragedy.”

9-11 was an act of war, and any country that harbors the perpetrator is in a state of war with us. Pakistan is lucky we just took care of business and then left, instead of bombing them into the stone age……oh, wait….they’re already there. What was before the stone age?

But they WERE warned, at least shortly before the raid. Think about it: He was hiding in a military town, and we sent in helicopters and started shooting the place up. It was noisy. This went on for about 20 minutes before the first police siren was heard, and the Pakistani military never did ANYTHING. They knew. Their government knew. Don’t be naive. They needed plausible deniability to avoid trouble with their radical Islamic elements, but they knew we were going in. They stepped aside and let us take care of business.

all I can say is Obama is so bad he makes Bush look good and that is one hard thing to do. Bush spent way too much on things that the federal government is not supposed to do ( prescription drug bill -ect – ect -ect) then Obama comes in and tosses down a federal health care bill.

I disagree with 99% of what Obama does but I also disagreed with 85% of what Bush did and 95% of what the federal government does. What is needed is a massive reduction in the federal government, removal of the federal income tax and a reduction of business taxes (USA has the highest business taxes in the world) That is the only thing that is going to create jobs and get the American People the freedom we are given by our creator (not the federal govt)

LOL! That’s your argument?

Posted by: Mickey | January 31, 2012, 1:31 am 1:31 am

Yes it is.

Using January 2009 as a begin date to blame lost jobs on Obama is just plain stupid.
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Bush handed Obama a country in free-fall economic collapse. Close to a million jobs being lost every month by the time Obama was inaugurated. You expected him to stop this on a dime? Are you that foolish, or just being dishonest? The momentum from the Bush collapse was just peaking as Obama took office and it continued for almost 6 months. It then started to reverse as Obama’s policies began to kick in.

Since then over 3 million private sectors jobs have been added.”

When the hell are you bush bashers going to move on. Bush saved us from going into a depression after the 911 attacks. Obama and the Dems were in complete control the first two years and did squat. The universal health care was shoved down our throats. Do you really think the gov’t can deliver a health care system that functions properly? Like the DMV, SS, Medi-care, schools,united postal service, FEMA , IRS, etc.. Think about it. Nice accomplishment Obama.

President Obama deserves 4 more years for his daring, keen leadership. Also, economy is getting better.

You are wrong Billy Boy. The recession started in December of 2007 and officially ended in June of 2009. Obama did not come into office until January 20 2009. So you see, Obama did not inherit a recession. He inherited the tail end of recession. If anything, you could say that Obama inherited an improving economy. While it is true the economy has seen some minor improvements in the past few years, the problem in essence is what we have done to get these minor improvements. Obama and the Democrat controlled Congress have spent massive amounts of money causing record high debt and deficits. The question is, is what do we have to show for it? The housing market still sucks. Unemployment is still high. Underemployment is even higher. Growth is pathetically low. Yes, the economy is a little better than it was in 2009, but two and a half years since the recession ended that should be expected. However, after all the money we have spent, we should be in much better shape. Basically the problem is simple; the spending does not justify the results. We spent five trillion and counting to try to fix the economy, and in the end we got the worst economic recovery ever.

Remember when Biden was running for President in 2008? One great decision after another from that guy. And a fine choice by Obama too. I suppose if you want to give Obama the benefit of the doubt, you could say that Biden will do less damage as the VP than he would have if he stayed in the Senate.

All Obama has really done is Borrow Money. What has he done to erase our trade deficit? What has he done to erase our debt? What has he done to lower oil prices. If any of his accomplishments can be attributed to borrowing money, they are not accomplishments.

Posted by: will | January 31, 2012, 2:33 am 2:33 am

Regarding borrowed money and the debt.

Over $1.25 TRILLION of the current debt ‘attributed’ to Obama resulted from interest on the debt George W. Bush left.

That’s just the interest on the debt Bush left, never mind the war commitments, the destroyed revenues due to the economic collapse on his watch, the unpaid for seniors drug plan, the huge deficits from his tax cuts, and on and on.

You can pretend and blame it on Obama, but anyone who studies the situation knows the truth.

Ok reality check” Obama ((and I supported Obama so No im not a Bush backer!) But lets get real. Obama did not stop a depression.” He bailed out Bank buddies who funded his campaign and put them on his team and made our situation worse”He Just cut the check engine light off and told you he saved you((guess what the cars in worse shape.

Second He did not create real jobs what he did was start a bunch of government programs (to police you) that coast your tax dollars,fudge the numbers with temp positions,under employed.

He broke laws to invade Libya and created a back draft were there are worse terrorist and Islamic extremist in Libya controlling things were there were none before! Libya was not a success it’s a total screw up! we destroyed the most productive country in Africa and killed more people than Gaddafi could have killed in five life times…Only people who benefited once again was Banks and oil companies (and you and I and the Libyan people paid for it)

He signed laws that takes away our freedoms and right to trial..
And the the list goes on…
The only thing he has done right is fool people into thinking his screw ups are things to applaud.

“Well I would have advised obama not to go to afghanistan to murder osama. Its rather difficult to kill someone who has been dead since 2001. But I suppose bobo thinks we are all stupid and we never read the news. The navy seals didnt kill osama but May have killed his brother and his grandson but they didnt kill osama. Thats why there are no photographs. This is all a scam which bobo thinks he has gotten by with.”

“I DO NOT BELIEVE they killed Bin Laden. This was a fake story to make our “Illegal President” look good. Bin Laden died many years ago due to kidney failure.”

AND THIS IS THE ABSOLUTE TRUTH……all this bickering over a hollywood scripted administration and GOVERNMENT!

“”"”"”"”"The Repubs will say anything, do anything, stop any bill in Congress (even if its a policy they completely agree with), tarnish the country’s reputation among the world economy all, ALL in an attempt to discredit a Democratic Presidency. “”"”"”"”

Posted by: JChas

Let’s start with The Keystone Pipeline. After your little rant, can you explain it? Then we can talk about 25 other bills that have passed THIS House and Harry Reid is sitting on them. Go ahead and explain those while we wait.

Obama did not stop a depression.” He bailed out Bank buddies who funded his campaign
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Wrong. The banks were bailed out by TARP funds initiated by Bush and Paulson.

Posted by: HORSE33 | January 31, 2012, 3:10 am 3:10 am

You’re wrong, but Bush did personally kill over 100,000 Iraqis including women, children and civilians and he personally maimed hundreds of thousands more.

What do you expect from the leader of the “Cracked head club”

Posted by: jjj | January 31, 2012, 3:26 am 3:26 am

President Obama campaigned on gearing down Iraq and stepping up against al Qaeda including targeted strikes against leadership in countries like Pakistan. He’s done just that, and he’s done it with the cooperation of he governments of Yemen, Somalia and Pakistan. It’s been very well executed.

Bush must bear some kind of responsibility for what happened on his watch – major intelligence failures on 9/11 and weapons of mass destruction, and a major economic collapse.

When Bush left office, this is what was taking place . …

1) Hundreds of thousands of real people losing their jobs every month, month after month;
2) millions of people losing their homes and being kicked out of them;
3) tens of thousands of businesses going bankrupt;
4) major banks and financial institutions on the verge of default;
5) stock market in full collapse;
6) major American auto companies about to go bankrupt;
7) demands on government resources skyrocketing;
8) government revenues collapsing as millions of taxpayers were losing their jobs and no longer paying income tax;
9) the demand for unemployment insurance exploding;
10) and on and on and on . ..

I’m sorry, Bush cannot duck these things. Nor can he blame them on Obama.

Who cares what that idiot Biden thinks or says. Every time that moron opens his mouth something ridiculously stupid spews forth.

I have got news for you Judy, Obama broke every promise he made regarding the Iraq issue. First he wanted us out immediately. Then it was sixteen months. Then it was combat troops out in sixteen months. Then that changed to nineteen months. In the end, Obama essentially followed the withdraw plan signed into law by Bush before he left office to a tee. In fact, Obama wanted to keep troops in Iraq passed the withdrawal deadline but screwed up the negotiations. As it happened, it was Iraq that ended up throwing us out. Let me also remind you that the Drone program started under Bush and was continued by Obama. It was Bush that was able to get countries like Pakistan, Yemen and Somalia to cooperate with us. Not Obama. Our relations with those countries may have actually gotten worse under Obama, especially Pakistan. Besides, without the intelligence that was collected during the Bush, years, those drones strike would never have happened.

I have got some more bad new for you. The economy still sucks. Two and a half years after the recession officially ended, there is still much doubt regarding the economy. Our growth is terrible. Unemployment is still higher than Obama promised it would be. The labor force is the smallest it has been in thirty years. Underemployment is a major problem. Housing just finished its worst years ever. gas prices are expected to rise again as is inflation. Many of those things you listed are still happening. Eventually, Obama will have to take some responsibility.

Obama Obama, when will the American public wake up and stop the blame game on Former President Bush. Obama had had 3 years in which to do something about, employment, energy, the economy, our world respect. Not the brown nose Obama has. He says a lot and his last Union address sounded just like all the others spend spend and spend some more, not to name more regulations and his comments some of which were anti American, why don’t we split the country. Social warfare will not get us anywhere. I don’t want to see the USA become somewhat like a European country.
What ever happened to the Constitution?

Posted by: jjj | January 31, 2012, 4:00 am 4:00 am

Bush didn’t have nearly the success Obama has had in targeted al Qaeda leadership in Yemen or Somalia or Pakistan.

By the way, the drone was developed under Clinton, not Bush – you going to pretend Clinton is responsible for the few Bush successes with the drone?

And please, stop repeating the right wing lie about Obama promising a specific number on unemployment. He didn’t.

Gas prices are lower now than the prices they hit under Bush. We’re producing more oil. We’re producing more green energy.

The economy has added at least 100,000 jobs every month for the last 6 months. Your boy Bush saw 800,000 jobs being lost every month, banks and financial institutions collapsing, tens of thosuands of small businesses going bankrupt, two major auto companies headed towards bankruptcy. Things are far, far better under Obama.

And most importantly, the Republicans have no policies to offer except for lowering the taxes on the wealthy and deregulating industries – exactly what we saw under Bush – and we saw how well that did.

Americans are not interested in that. You’ll see Republicans lose seats in November and you’ll see President Obama elected to a second term.

And I think it was prudent for Obama to adjust his Iraq withdrawal time table. A more stupid man would have belligerently tried to enforce his will – Obama adjusted smartly.

I can respect everyone’s political beliefs and affiliations. But I cannot respect someone who refuses to give our president credit for making a ballsy decision that resulted in the killing of Bin Laden. Bush had two terms to get Bin Laden and was not able to do so. He exibited that he did not have the guts to risk alienating Pakistan in order to serve our political and national security interests. If that mission had gone awry, EVERY ONE of the Obama detractors who refuse to give him credit for this mission and other positive things that he has done, would be placing the blame directly on our president’s shoulders. That was a politically risky and brave decision that Obama made. Give the man the credit that he deserves.

To Ken:
Bush did launch at least two secret raids into Pakistan. They were unsuccessful because the intelligence simply was no there yet. It took at least six years to identify the Bin Laden courier and another three to track the courier down. Much of the intelligence for the Bin Laden raid came from Al Queda operatives that were captured during the Bush years, many of whom were captured in Pakistan. Bush was not afraid of the Pakistanis. In fact, the only reason why Pakistan ever cooperated with us at all was because of Bush. Before 9/11, Pakistan openly supported the Taliban. Afterwards, we laid down the law and the Pakistan turned against them and started fighting them.
I have no problem giving Obama credit for giving the go on the raid, but all he really did was green light an existing policy. Regardless of who was in office, I do not believe anyone would have said no to this. Well, except maybe Biden….

Wow alot of Koolaid drinkers posting here

Don’t think Joe, it shows how out of touch you are.

The mere fact that every claim the Obama admin makes about job growth, healthcare law, and other accomplishments is severely exaggerated, spun so erratically that it defies rational reality, and is intellectually dishonest about how they conclude the math and numbers illustrates that the merits of the claimed accomplishments cannot stand on their own because they are not legitimate.
ie. 3 million jobs created fell under a definition of counting those who received a raise, were hired for a day, or other ridiculous notions of job creation.

We have to do two more things to see if he’s there,’” Biden recalled

First, we send Ed McMahon with the big check made out to UBL. If he comes to the door, Ed shoots him in the face.

If that doesn’t work we disguise Matt Damon as the gas meter reader. If he spots UBL through the window, he goes Jason Bourne all over him.

I’m shocked by what I’m reading here. The people who are telling the truth (those who are anti-Obama) keep getting slammed by the Obama supporters. The phrase that comes to mind is: “Don’t pee on my leg and tell me it’s raining”. Obama is destroying America, and we KNOW this to be fact. It’s just amazing to me to see people supporting Obama and the destruction he is causing. And yes, I believe that he will get reelected–i believe this because the GOP is not putting forth anyone who is awesome, and that’s pathetic because we have a guy who is landslide beatable right now. The Manchurian president will “serve” another four years. God help us.

This is propaganda, planted by the Obama re-election team, for the purpose of making Obama look like a leader.

The truth is,Obama was playing golf as the real heroes, our military and inteligence agencies, did the hard work. They found bin laden and then presentd Obama with a button. All Obama had to do was push the button and then watch it play out on the big screen.

The only calculation Obama made was how this would benefit or harm his presidency.

“Can you imagine if he had said ‘No” to the mission? Hillary would have resigned and began her campaign to replace him.” – Dr. Know

Gee, I guess his presidency was at stake after all.
Thanks for the enlightened perspective Dr. Know.

Not true! It was Barry Obamawho said “No” but Leon Panetta is the one who over ridden the wimpy president and said “go”. They are now blaming Biden? It was wimpy Obama.

Where can one find a picture of the ‘fistpump’ moment when everyone in the situation room saw or were told Bin Laden was killed? No body? Just a lot of hearsay protecting us against Muslim rage. Gee, and I thought we were over that. You mean just because of a simple lack of pictures or real, genuine, bona fide, incontrovertable proof that they’ll be good little boys and girls? Who’s naive now?

America is going to get rid of the Progressive Communist Admin. in a few months. You watch and see..

Liberalism is a Mental Disorder as we all Now See.

Just look at the Country and we know there are 71 Communist Democrats in our Government.

Watch Nov. it’s going to be a Blood Bath for them………..America wants them gone……….!

Wow. I love how the Obama campaign machine thinks everyone in America is an idiot. This is an entirely BS story. And you can expect more little tidbit stories like this to trickle out throughout this election season. This is their way of trying to make you believe that this was such a huge, monumental decision that was solely made by Obama. They want you to believe that he is the only man who could have made this tough decision, against all odds, nobody else had the courage or insight to do it. What a load of bull. If you buy this story, you are stupid. That’s exactly what the Obama campaign machine is counting on. And, unfortunately, there are a large number of you out there (as evidenced by some of these comments) that won’t let him down.

Lee and Wildblu, you are right. But the worst thing about the decision to send in the SEALS is that it was made for one reason alone, to “save his presidency”. The lives of the brave men be damned, an afterthought at best. Everything this guy does is to celebrate his being.

A broken clock is right once every 720 minutes. Old Joe seems to be less reliable than said broken clock. Why does Obama keep the tight wad human gaffe machine on the payroll? Perhaps he is a surrogate for his last surrogate dad the Reverend Jeremiah Wright?

Coming into the election season, Obama needs to be seen as a strong, decisive leader. How fortuitous that Joe Biden is there to prop him up. I’ve always believed that Biden was only put on the ticket to make Obama look good. Obama is a novice ideologue that can only look good when compared to a moron like Joe. The only thing Joe has ever been good at is leveraging himself into positions of power, despite his lack of competence.

People have such short memories. They keep talking about the SEALS of Team 6 that were involved in the raid, but they never follow up and remind you that most of them are now dead. A terrible mistake that may have been called in late at night all the way to Washington, somebody of high ranking ok’d the mission to rescue Army Rangers. SEALS live were in danger the minute they left the base in a Chinook chopper no outfitted for night missions.

Leave Joe alone! He is a model liberal and humanitarian.. He donated $367 to charity in 2010 for God’s sake! Please understand that Joe understands the terrain of Afghanistan and difficultly of these missions.. His chopper was forced down by the Taliban there, he has been eye-to-eye with the enemy. His wisdom should be praised and his word should be followed.

@Seamus .. Starting with the decision to take on Joe Biden as VP?

So Obama makes Jimmy Carter look like a superstar.

And Joe Biden makes Obama look like a superstar.

The world makes sense again!

wow, priorities:
“He knew what was at stake, not just the lives of those brave warriors, but literally the presidency,” Biden said.

Twice the most wanted man in the world was reported to have died and the USA just rufuted these reports without sending out an investigative team to establish the truth? Sorry, but I don’t buy this story at all. Osama Bin Laden was silent for too long to have been alive. He must have died when George W. Bush declared him not to be the priority anymore (THE MOST WANTED MAN IN THE WORLD! LOL) who was now replaced by Sadam Hussein of Iraq. It is so very obvious that the government is convinced that the American people are stupid or just not paying attention! Here’s one who thinks otherwise. This is good publicity and that’s all for Daddy “O” who needs all of the propaganda he can bribe or muster up. Perhaps someone will come forward and lead us to OBL’s grave to put an end to this whole cherade.