Obama Strategist Says Romney’s Negative Attacks ‘Backfiring’
Mitt Romney may have regained momentum and earned an air of electability following his victory in the Florida Republican primary, but a top Obama strategist says the tactics and message Romney displayed won’t fly in a national campaign.
“Team Romney wants voters and the national media to believe its victory reflects its candidate’s positions,” deputy Obama campaign manager Stephanie Cutter wrote in a memo to reporters Wednesday.
“In reality, it is a product of the fact that Romney and his SuperPAC allies carpet-bombed Gingrich by spending five times as much money on Florida’s airwaves, and running more than 60 television ads for every one Gingrich and his allies aired,” she said.
Romney and affiliated outside groups did spend more than $15 million on TV ads, according to Kantar Media’s CMAG, which closely tracks campaign spending. Most were negative attacks against rival candidates Newt Gingrich and Rick Santorum.
The group reported that less than 0.1 percent of political ads that aired in Florida over the past week were positive Romney ads, while more than 68 percent were attack ads against Gingrich.
“It’s difficult for Romney to claim Floridians voted for him rather than against his opponents,” Cutter concluded.
The memo highlights a slew of recent polling data, including the Florida primary exit poll, to highlight that many voters — from independents to mainstream Republicans — have become less enthusiastic about their choice of candidates, including Romney, suggesting the former governor’s strategy may be “backfiring.”
Still, Romney’s victory in Florida provides some evidence that the strategy has done anything but backfire — a potential warning sign for Obama with the general election quickly drawing near.
Romney won big by going negative against his opponents, and thanks to major ad spending from outside groups — all while overcoming negative-campaigning criticism at the same time.
Sixty-five percent of Florida voters said they’d be satisfied with Romney as the Republican nominee, according to the exit poll of Republican primary goers — a figure in line with national polls that show many GOPers believe Romney has the best chance to beat Obama.
Romney’s decisive victory among a diverse electorate also demonstrated that he can still muster organizational firepower and attract and retain early-deciding voters, per ABC pollster Gary Langer.
Romney garnered “much more positive personal appeal than his top competitors; a sharp gender gap for the first time this year, with far greater support among women; fewer evangelicals, a group in which he’s struggled; lots of seniors; and, in another first for the GOP in 2012, a substantial number of minority voters,” Langer said.
Cutter and Team Obama — who have for months been preparing to take on Romney, who is seen as their most formidable and likely general election challenger — insist the conclusion of the Florida primary is not the de facto start of the general election campaign.
Instead, they’re expecting — and hoping — the tumultuous and politically bruising GOP primary process will go on for a little bit longer.
“The 2012 Republican presidential primary has been unpredictable, and the format and timing of the process favors a prolonged fight for the Republican nomination,” Cutter says in the memo.
“Even after the February contests, only 15 percent of delegates will be awarded. No candidate has a chance to mathematically secure the nomination until at least April,” she asserts.
UPDATE: Romney campaign spokeswoman Amanda Henneberg emailed the following response to the Cutter memo:
“Three years ago today, President Obama said if he couldn’t fix the economy that he would be facing a one-term proposition. So it’s no wonder that with Gov. Romney coming off a big victory in a must-win general election state that the White House would be worried about having to face Gov. Romney and be held accountable for President Obama’s failures.”

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Right or wrong American people do not care about the ‘honor’ of the opposing team. All that is cared about is that their team wins. It doesn’t matter that someone is kicked while being down, records, including embarrasing divorce records of an opponent are mysteriously released or the playing certain cards and don’t worry about those one time associates run over by your bus.
All that matters is that your team win. Period.
Posted by: david | February 1, 2012, 7:27 am 7:27 am
Funny and ironic headline, since Obama will be desperately running, (and already is running), perhaps the most negative and most dishonest campaign in US history. Obama has nearly no positive record to run on at all, only failures and fiascos to defend against.
Posted by: Jimmie | February 1, 2012, 7:51 am 7:51 am
Obama’s team knows all about negative campaigning. They live and breathe that crap…always have, always will.
Just sayin’ , lol.
Posted by: Kimberly | February 1, 2012, 7:53 am 7:53 am
As usual the media got the important numbers wrong. There are 4.1 million registered republicans in Florida. Only 1.8 million voted. That means 56% of republicans didn’t take the time to vote for any of these candidates.
Romney got 0.73 million votes, which means 83% of all republicans in the state didn’t vote for him. I would hardly call this an overwhelming victory.
Posted by: tmferretti | February 1, 2012, 7:54 am 7:54 am
Negative ads work apparently well with republican voters as demonstrated by Romney’s win. National I would suppose would need a combo technique, negative, solution based, and connect the dots scenario.
Posted by: emerald_sparks | February 1, 2012, 8:30 am 8:30 am
This big PAC money spending has changed the whole political landscape in America….for the worse I’m afraid.
Posted by: newcountryman | February 1, 2012, 8:42 am 8:42 am
Time to start scooping up the mud.
Posted by: newcountryman | February 1, 2012, 8:51 am 8:51 am
“…knows all about negative campaigning.”–”Kimberly”
Campaign Media Analysis Group (CMAG) shows a whopping 92% of ads aired in Florida over the past week were negative. CMAG said that was a record rate for political campaigns. Most negative campaign ever. That will create lasting damage.
Why was it so negative? Because of the guys running for office. They’re nasty and have very little to offer the American people. They’re simply not inspirational and they have no positive, workable ideas.
The Obama campaign is tough and strategic (politics ain’t bean bag) so Laura Ingraham and her prominent conservative friends are correct to worry and fret , but the Obama campaign is transparent and not nearly as negative/slimy as the Bush’s led by Atwater/Rove or Gingrich and Romney.
Posted by: Gemma Stone | February 1, 2012, 8:58 am 8:58 am
Once again, after gaining ground, Romney is talking…. “I’m not concerned about the plight of the poor.” “I don’t care about the poor…”
We know, Mittens, we know. Now just answer the tax questions about UBIT.
Posted by: Gemma Stone | February 1, 2012, 9:01 am 9:01 am
Yeah, Romney should take advice from Obama’s top strategist. Makes sense. LOL!
Posted by: Carl | February 1, 2012, 9:07 am 9:07 am
Obama’s created more poverty than any US President in history.
Posted by: Carl | February 1, 2012, 9:08 am 9:08 am
It’s always easy for the incumbant to sit back and take the high road. Just saying. You won’t hear Obama directly come out with anything remotely negative until mid-October.
Posted by: newcountryman | February 1, 2012, 9:10 am 9:10 am
CARL
“Obama’s created more poverty than any US President in history.”
You republicans seem to forget a President called George Bush whose policies Mitt wants to go back too created this recession in the first place.
Besides, another republican caused the most poverty in this country’s history, his name was Herbert Hoover, if you forget who he was, there’s a dam named after him in Nevada. He also believed in trickledown economics.
Posted by: tmferretti | February 1, 2012, 9:28 am 9:28 am
CARL | FEBRUARY 1, 2012, 9:08 AM posted “Obama’s created more poverty than any US President in history.”
Yeah, that Great Recession that official started in 2007 BEFORE this President entered the White House had nothing to do with creating poverty.
Carl did you live in the United States over the past decade? Just curious if you think the Housing Collapse might have contributed to our current economic situation..
Posted by: green.goddess | February 1, 2012, 9:29 am 9:29 am
We know Mr. Obama gets his advisers and surrogates to do his dirty work using tax payer resources.
For example, Obama himself doesn’t have the courage to come out and say what he feels.
It’s always Axlerod or someone else tweeting, chirping, and quibbling about something or the other.
We know Mr. Obama and his advisers live in Fantasyland where a strong victory is actually a defeat and a weak economy, chronically high unemployment, government waste, largess, and profligacy are actually a sign of strong economic stewardship and good governance.
Too bad there is only so much tax payer funded Kool-Aid to go around in Fantasyland.
Posted by: Romney Supporter | February 1, 2012, 9:52 am 9:52 am
Why is it that every NoBo strategist, advisor or press secretary have no credibility?
Posted by: Noz | February 1, 2012, 9:52 am 9:52 am
Also, how do you honestly talk about Obama without being negative?
Posted by: Noz | February 1, 2012, 9:53 am 9:53 am
Specialization in negative attacks is President Obama’s normal mode of operation. He is the king of pointing fingers and playing the blame game!
Posted by: Common _ Sense | February 1, 2012, 9:56 am 9:56 am
Green goddess,
Historically, the US as a whole has done better under Democratic rule. it has been polled many times and Americans blame Bush for the economy and Republicans for our credit downgrade. That many Republicans are out of touch with America is not very surprising. Look at their frontrunners in the GOP presidential primary. Both are deeply flawed and are viewed negatively by the American people. The private equity business model that Mitt Romney’s wealth is founded upon relies on tax payer subsidies, which allegedly Republicans or “conservatives” are against. He has also been a catalyst for sending jobs overseas and represents a lot of bugs in our system.
In the most recent ABC/WaPo poll, general election voters say they have an unfavorable view of “Romney’s work buying and restructuring companies before he went into politics.” By a 40-35 percent margin. And that is supposed to be his strong point.
Posted by: Gemma Stone | February 1, 2012, 10:01 am 10:01 am
Why is it that every NoBo strategist, advisor or press secretary have no credibility?
Posted by: Noz | February 1, 2012, 9:52 am 9:52 am
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Because they talk out of both sides of their mouth. One hand they talk about there being too much money in politics and republicans buying elections, and then BO goes back on his promise for public financing and brags about raising a billion dollars for his campaign.
They talk about romney being negative, while Axelrod appears on every talk show bashing Romney and Newt.
They talk about being a middle class warrior, and then of course close press to the $35,000 a plate fundraiser b/c they don’t want to the public to see their guy hanging out with the rich. but their send out photos of him the next day eating lunch at a chicken restaurant.
Posted by: Jim Tayberry | February 1, 2012, 10:01 am 10:01 am
Specialization in negative attacks is President Obama’s normal mode of operation. He is the king of pointing fingers and playing the blame game!
Posted by: Common _ Sense | February 1, 2012, 9:56 am 9:56 am
It’s as if you people have no touch with reality. You have it exactly backwards. I won’t be voting for Republicans ever again.
Posted by: Ted | February 1, 2012, 10:06 am 10:06 am
President Obama has been consistent, cool headed and tells the American people what he feels. He never said getting out of this republican recession was going to be easy. Everyone knows that there are no silver bullets and reverting to the trickledown Bush policies is insanity.
The republicans have a habit of criticizing generally but never get specific on just what they think he’s lying about. They wonder why their candidates are so negative, it’s because they are playing to a republican base that revels in negativity.
Posted by: tmferretti | February 1, 2012, 10:09 am 10:09 am
Jim Tayberry, again, Campaign Media Analysis Group (CMAG) shows a whopping 92% of ads aired in Florida over the past week were negative. CMAG said that was a record rate for political campaigns. Most negative campaign ever. That will create lasting damage… and as much as you all like to blame Obama for everything, he had nothing to do with it.
Republicans are nasty.
I notice there are lots of articles out about how damaging this– win at all costs and fail to focus on policy– is for Republicans in the GE. Check out the National journal for example, A Li-Mitted Victory for Presumptive GOP Nominee. Romney’s negatives have soared, especially among independents who often decide the election.
People know that Romney is a liar and a flip-flopper who will say anything to get elected. They know he’s filthy rich, likes to fire people and has made his fortune “plundering companies and laying off workers.” they know he buried assets in the Cayman Islands and elite Swiss accounts. They know he was weird about coughing up his tax returns and engaged in the most negative campaign ever. They also think his claims about worrying about pink slips are phony and out of touch. Now, he says he doesn’t care about the poor.
Posted by: Gemma Stone | February 1, 2012, 10:09 am 10:09 am
I won’t be voting for Republicans ever again.
Posted by: Ted | February 1, 2012, 10:06 am 10:06 am
Not many people will. On conservative blogs, a lot of people are dispirited. It’s time for an independent party.
Posted by: Foghorn Leghorn | February 1, 2012, 10:13 am 10:13 am
People know that Romney is a liar and a flip-flopper who will say anything to get elected. They know he’s filthy rich, likes to fire people and has made his fortune “plundering companies and laying off workers.” they know he buried assets in the Cayman Islands and elite Swiss accounts. They know he was weird about coughing up his tax returns and engaged in the most negative campaign ever. They also think his claims about worrying about pink slips are phony and out of touch. Now, he says he doesn’t care about the poor.
Posted by: Gemma Stone | February 1, 2012, 10:09 am 10:09 am
Brain-washed Republicans may vote for this guy regardless, but it won’t work on Independents – they’ve had enough of lying, phony, attack dog Republican politicians and Romney shows in his campaign against Gingrich that’s exactly what he is. People don’t buy this anymore.
Posted by: Norm | February 1, 2012, 10:20 am 10:20 am
Jim Tayberry: If billionaires are willing to pay more in taxes, seems to me they are aware that our capitalistic system will crumble if we continue the same path. Sorry spending for two wars without financing it with tax revenues got us in this mess, prior to GWB there were two budget surpluses.
Posted by: emerald_sparks | February 1, 2012, 10:22 am 10:22 am
President Obama has been consistent, cool headed and tells the American people what he feels. He never said getting out of this republican recession was going to be easy. Everyone knows that there are no silver bullets and reverting to the trickledown Bush policies is insanity.
Posted by: tmferretti | February 1, 2012, 10:09 am 10:09 am
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“I will be held accountable,” Obama said. “I’ve got four years and … A year form now, I think people are going to see that we’re starting to make some progress, but there’s still going to be some pain out there … If I don’t have this done in three years, then there’s going to be a one-term proposition.”
Posted by: J Tayberry | February 1, 2012, 10:23 am 10:23 am
TMF, actually Obama did say it would be easy-remember when he said that if the economy wasn’t better in 3 years he didn’t deserve re-election?Gemma,what is “filthy rich”?The most negatve campaign ever? I didn’t see a girl go up in a mushroom cloud.I didn’t see Willie Horton.
Here is the fact-everybody runs negative campaign ads.There is nothing wrong with highlighting the perceived flaws of your opponent-it has been done since the beginning of the Republic.Big deal.
Mitt Romney has employed more people than you have ever met. He has also been vastly more generous to charity than any recent Democrat candidate for national office. How many dollars did Biden contribute to charity?
Posted by: Nephron | February 1, 2012, 10:27 am 10:27 am
“I will be held accountable,” Obama said. “I’ve got four years and … A year form now, I think people are going to see that we’re starting to make some progress, but there’s still going to be some pain out there … If I don’t have this done in three years, then there’s going to be a one-term proposition.”
Posted by: J Tayberry | February 1, 2012, 10:23 am 10:23 am
Over 3 million jobs have been added since Obama’s policies hit full stride. Oil production in the country is up. Green energy production in the country is up. GM is back at the #1 car company in the world! Third shifts are being added at automotive plants. Bin Laden is dead. Kaddafhi is gone. Many, many al Qaeda leaders are gone. All of the world including Russia and China are onside against Iranian nuclear development. Nuclear inspectors are back in Iran. The stock market has gone up hugely since Obama’s policies began to kick in. This is a top of the line administration.
Had Bush or any Republican accomplished all of this in 3 years, the right wingers would be creaming their jeans and calling him one of the greatest presidents of all time. Trouble is – it isn’t Bush – it’s Obama – and right wingers are biased hypocrites.
Posted by: Not So Bad | February 1, 2012, 10:31 am 10:31 am
J TAYBERRY
The President was correct, if he didn’t get this done in three years, the American people are going to be angry and he was going to have a hard time being re-elected. We are seeing that now, although I think he will be re-elected.
What was he lying about? Everything he said in that statement is absolutely true.
Posted by: tmferretti | February 1, 2012, 10:32 am 10:32 am
On conservative blogs, a lot of people are dispirited. It’s time for an independent party.
Posted by: Foghorn Leghorn | February 1, 2012, 10:13 am 10:13 am
Yup.
“Not 12 hours after the networks called it for him, Mitt Romney went on CNN’s Starting Point with Soledad O’Brien, spoke from the heart, and played straight into the liberal caricature that Republicans don’t have hearts.. Soledad O’Brien allowed Mitt Romney to clarify his remarks in case there was a misunderstanding. He chose to dig his hole deeper.” Erick Erickson, Red State, a conservative blog
Posted by: Susan | February 1, 2012, 10:32 am 10:32 am
TMF, actually Obama did say it would be easy
Posted by: Nephron | February 1, 2012, 10:27 am 10:27 am
The President said repeatedly it was not going to be a quick fix. Anyone who thought it was going to be was not very aware of what was going on. People like Bush who said it was ‘just a rough patch’. People like McCain who said ‘the fundamentals are strong’. Republicans weren’t they?
Posted by: charlie | February 1, 2012, 10:34 am 10:34 am
And along comes Romney pretending it’s going to be a quick fix. We’re not stupid.
Posted by: Charlie | February 1, 2012, 10:40 am 10:40 am
Mitt Romney has employed more people than you have ever met.————Net? LOL!
Posted by: sammy | February 1, 2012, 10:41 am 10:41 am
Nephron, unfortunately for you, you can’t verify how many people he has employed or whether he’s actually created net job losses, which is more likely.
And since you don’t understand why Floridians didn’t turn out to vote for Republicans and why they’re sick of the negative campaign, let me repeat; Campaign Media Analysis Group (CMAG) shows a whopping 92% of ads aired in Florida over the past week were negative. CMAG said that was a record rate for political campaigns. Most negative campaign ever. That will create lasting damage… see Romney’s negative ratings jumping!
Ask Republicans like Newt and others why the public views Romney as liar and a flip-flopper who will say anything to get elected. As them how they know he’s filthy rich, likes to fire people and has made his fortune “plundering companies and laying off workers.”Ask them how Americans know Mitt buried assets in the Cayman Islands and elite Swiss accounts. Ask them how Americans know Mitt was very weird about coughing up his tax returns and ask them whether he engaged in the most negative campaign ever.
Ask Erik Erikson, a conservative blogger at Red State if Mitt blew it this morning in talking about the poor and how much he doesn’t care about them.
As for Mitt’s tithing, I don’t like really religious candidates. They creep me out as I appreciate a separation between church and state.
Posted by: Gemma Stone | February 1, 2012, 10:41 am 10:41 am
“I don’t like really religious candidates.” – Gemma Stone
Wow G-Stone, I never thought I’d hear you say you didn’t like Obama!
Posted by: Noz | February 1, 2012, 10:53 am 10:53 am
Mitt Romney is not a Steve Jobs or Bill Gates, he creates nothing. He takes advantage of companies in dire straits to fill his own pocket. The only jobs he has ever created are landscapers and servants for his 14 mansions.
83 % of Florida republicans did not vote for him. If this doesn’t tell you something nothing does.
Posted by: tmferretti | February 1, 2012, 11:05 am 11:05 am
Noz, I’m sure it doesn’t surprise you that i am no fan of either Mitt Romney or Newt Gingrich.
I just read “Analysis: Mitt Romney Super PAC has been machine of destruction”, Reuters and I can’t help but think that all this man knows is destruction given his experience as a corporate pillager and the most negative campaigner ever.
Posted by: Gemma Stone | February 1, 2012, 11:06 am 11:06 am
but the Obama campaign is transparent
Posted by: Gemma Stone | February 1, 2012, 8:58 am 8:58 am
Really? Then why isn’t the press “allowed” into his $35,800 a plate fundraisers?
Posted by: sheresmymoney | February 1, 2012, 11:10 am 11:10 am
Gemma,have you ever heard of the 2002 Winter Olympics?
Posted by: Nephron | February 1, 2012, 11:14 am 11:14 am
Not So Bad | February 1, 2012, 10:31 am – – – Over 3 million jobs have been added since Obama’s policies hit full stride. Oil production in the country is up. Green energy production in the country is up. GM is back at the #1 car company in the world! – - – - – - – - – - – - – - – - – - – - These may be statements of fact but they tell only part of the story. 1) The number of jobs added is not keeping up with population growth. Keeping the number of jobs in place when President Obama was elected the unemployment rate is over 10%. 2) It should be no surprise that domestic oil production is up after gas prices more than doubled. More than 50% of our energy comes from domestic sources as a result of reduced fuel demand as a result of anemic economy! 3) GM is only the #1 automotive manufacturer when Chinese sales are included where GM owns less than 50% of the company. Now you know the rest of the story!!!!!!
Posted by: Common _ Sense | February 1, 2012, 11:17 am 11:17 am
NEPRON
The winter Olympic committee in Utah was disbanded before Mitt was even appointed. Local politicians cleaned up the corruption and threw the scoundrels out. By the time Mitt arrived they pretty much had things under control. Some of them have said all Mitt did was be a PIA.
Being the head of an Olympic Committee does not qualify you to being the President of 300,000 million people and Commander-In-Chief of the most powerful military in the world.
Posted by: tmferretti | February 1, 2012, 11:25 am 11:25 am
Nephron, are you saying that he flip flops between being constructive and destructive– once he did positive things but now he’s known as the most negative campaigner ever and a corporate pillager backed by hedge fund managers pouring money into secretive PACs to destroy those who don’t support him and scold those who have questions… and are you also saying you’re willing to roll the dice to see which Mittster you get as president, hoping he’s some mish mash of the guy from a decade ago and who you want him to be?
2002 was 2002 and back then he also said he was a moderate progressive and backed an individual mandate.
Who is the real Mitt?
I don’t really care for him or his ugly politics.
Posted by: Gemma Stone | February 1, 2012, 11:26 am 11:26 am
3) GM is only the #1 automotive manufacturer when Chinese sales are included where GM owns less than 50% of the company. Now you know the rest of the story!!!!!!
Posted by: Common _ Sense | February 1, 2012, 11:17 am 11:17 am
GM still owes the taxpayer 24 BILLION dollars.
Posted by: whersmymoney | February 1, 2012, 11:26 am 11:26 am
For every dollar that a member of President Obama’s campaign finance committee contributed to his campaign, that member’s company has received nearly $25,000 from the Obama administration.
Posted by: foggy | February 1, 2012, 12:38 pm 12:38 pm
“let me repeat; Campaign Media Analysis Group (CMAG) shows a whopping 92% of ads aired in Florida over the past week were negative.”
More than 92% of the leftist comments on this blog are negative. I hope whoever runs against Barry is nasty enough to compete with him.
Posted by: foggy | February 1, 2012, 12:43 pm 12:43 pm
POSTED BY: TMFERRETTI | FEBRUARY 1, 2012, 11:25 AM 11:25 AM, but a community organizer is.
GEMMA STONE, forgot about the city of Pontiac, MIch. which after government bailouts of GM ( which they still have no payed back) is bankrupt, because the GM line of Pontiac is gone, factory closed. You talk about negative campaigning, wait untill David Axelrod really gets into the reelection mode, then we all will see dirty politics Chicago style. Ever wonder what happend to the women who accused Cain, might want to look to David Axelrod and his tactics.
Posted by: Lizzie | February 1, 2012, 12:46 pm 12:46 pm
No President doesn’t make jobs. Employers does, and they are using this rhetoric as a ploy
to hold off to make us think it all President Obama’s fault. Romney is only saying what he
think Americans wants to hear. Also, he already think most Americans are stupid and
only rely on the media to do their thinking for them. We must wake up, stopping let other
people do our thinking for us. Further, everyone needs to grow up, and the troubling times
will only get worst if Romney gets elected. He is totaly clueless on only talk negative about
everybody, everything, all the time. What’s he saying, absolutely nothing, and our dumb
@##%#, are getting more stupid every day. Look at how the media take advantage of our
stupidity, by starting the news off with nothing but sensalize junk, about entertainators,
sport people, unimportant people, wealthy people, and anything to talke our minds off what
is really important and needing to hear.
Posted by: Mary | February 1, 2012, 12:52 pm 12:52 pm
3) GM is only the #1 automotive manufacturer when Chinese sales are included where GM owns less than 50% of the company. Now you know the rest of the story!!!!!!
Posted by: Common _ Sense | February 1, 2012, 11:17 am 11:17 am
GM still owes the taxpayer 24 BILLION dollars.
Posted by: whersmymoney | February 1, 2012, 11:26 am 11:26 am
GM and other auto manufacturers have added 3rd shifts IN AMERICA. Its a global competition amongst auto producers; ignoring China would be absolutely stupid. The tax payers own GM shares, not debt. If the stock goes up, not only have two major, major American engines of the economy bee saved – tax payers gets all of their money back.
Posted by: jeff | February 1, 2012, 1:18 pm 1:18 pm
TMF,I see that you have the mathematical ability of your hero, Mr. “22 million jobs” Obama.I don’t know what country has 300,000 million people, but I certainly think that successfully rescuing an international competition that was in serious trouble and leaving it with a 40 million dollar surplus is a hell of a lot more impressive than having NO EXECUTIVE EXPERIENCE AT ALL.And at the end Romney DONATED his entire salary. The only donations I see coming from Mr. Obama or Mr Biden are donation of other people’s money.
Posted by: Nephron | February 1, 2012, 1:22 pm 1:22 pm