Feb 13, 2012 9:51am

Obama Budget Doubles Down on Populist Proposals

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President Obama today doubled down on the populist proposals central to his re-election campaign with a $3.7 trillion budget that outlines his tax and spending priorities for 2013.

“In the State of the Union, I outlined a blueprint for an economy that is built to last, an economy built on new manufacturing and new sources of energy and new skills and education for the American people. Today we’re releasing the details of that blueprint in the form of next year’s budget,” Obama said in a speech at a community college in northern Virginia.

“And, don’t worry, I will not read it to you. It’s long and a lot of numbers,” he added, drawing laughs from the crowd.

The Obama budget calls for $1.3 trillion in spending on the nation’s credit card next year, including $350 billion in spending on jobs programs and $476 billion in infrastructure projects.  Obama also wants to boost aid for manufacturing research and development by 19 percent above current levels, to $2.2 billion.

To pay for the spending, the president would raise $1.5 trillion in added tax revenue over 10 years, mainly from higher taxes on wealthier Americans.  He would allow the Bush tax cuts to expire on families earning more than $250,000 a year and impose a new minimum tax of 30 percent on millionaires, which the administration has called the “Buffett Rule.”

But with no chance that Congress will enact the agenda in an election year – and many of the included proposals already rejected – the presentation today was largely a moment of political theater aimed at projecting an image of the president as a “warrior for the middle class.”

“You know, the budget that we’re releasing today is a reflection of shared responsibility,” Obama said, repeating a refrain he has used on the campaign trail. “It says that if we’re serious about investing in our future and investing in community colleges and investing in new energy technology and investing in basic research, well, we’ve got to pay for it, and that means we’ve got to make some choices.”

The president is seeking $360 billion in cuts to Medicare and Medicaid and $278 billion in savings from non-health benefits programs such as agriculture subsidies and federal civilian worker pension; cuts he said he “wouldn’t normally make if they weren’t absolutely necessary.”

“But they are,” Obama said, “and the truth is we’re going to have to make some tough choices in order to put this country back on a more sustainable fiscal path.”

The administration says the budget would reduce the deficit $4 trillion by 2022 through a spate of tax increases, war savings and spending cuts previously agreed to with Congress.

Republicans have disputed the deficit-reduction numbers, which, they say, reflect gimmickry, and have blasted the budget document as a reflection of a broken promise and overt attempt to woo voters.

“His budget for next year is more of the same,” Republican National Committee Chairman Reince Priebus said. “It’s full of more spending and more tax increases that have put this country deeper into debt. Instead of mortgaging our children’s future, President Obama should have fulfilled his promise to cut spending.”

Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell of Kentucky called the budget a “campaign document.”

“This proposal isn’t really a budget at all,” he said. “This was a real opportunity for the president to get serious about the fiscal situation we face in the Obama economy, but once again, the president is shirking his responsibility to lead and using this budget to divide.”

Republicans also note that despite the cuts has heralded, the president’s budget would mark the fourth straight year that deficit spending exceeds $1 trillion, falling well short of his 2009 promise to “cut the deficit we inherited by half by the end of my first term in office.”

White House chief of staff Jack Lew has denied Obama broke his promise, insisting Sunday that the economic crisis demanded emergency spending in the form of the Recovery Act.

“It cost money in terms of lost revenue and slower economic growth.  We’re on track now,” Lew said. “We’ve seen several months of sustained economic growth and job creation, but we’re not out of the woods yet.”

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TRANSLATION —- 1) more failed stimulus! — 2) ANOTHER $1T deficit figure! — 3) Another lie about “we will cut spending IF you raise taxes”…. this lie has worked twice before, why shouldn’t the Democrtats try it again!?!?! —- Reagan was pressured to raise taxes from the media and the Democrats. So in 1982, Reagan struck a deal with the Democrats to raise business and excise taxes in exchange for $280 billion in spending cuts over six years. As Reagan wrote in his diary at the time: “The tax increase is the price we have to pay to get the budget cuts.” But, of course, the Democrats were lying. Instead of cutting $280 billion, they spent an additional $450 billion — only $140 billion of which went to the Reagan defense buildup that ended the Evil Empire. Meanwhile, Reagan’s tax cuts brought in an extra $375 billion in government revenue in the next six years. His tax cuts funded the entire $140 billion defense buildup, with $235 billion left over. You will notice it is the same culprits pushing for tax hikes today!! —– Unable to learn from the first kick of a mule, President George H.W. Bush made the exact same deal with Democrats just a few years later. Pretending to care about the deficit — created exclusively by their own profligate spending ——- Do we believe them a THIRD TIME??? — I think not!!!!

Posted by: TheLoyalOpposition | February 13, 2012, 10:06 am 10:06 am

President Obama keeps fighting to get us out of this recession and do what is right for the middle class and poor.

We democrats have difficulty talking about the republican proposals because there are none. When have you seen a republican on this blog say what any of the republican candidates have offered, never?

The republicans use the debt and deficit as a smoke screen to obscure the fact that they want to keep this recession going in hope it will win them the White House. They fail to see that the American people see their tactics and are fed up with them.

Posted by: tmferretti | February 13, 2012, 10:19 am 10:19 am

Of course it is our official position that the burden of deficit reduction should fall squarely on the shoulders of working class Americans, whether they are fully employed or not. Protecting the Bush era tax cuts, especially for our distinguished colleagues like Mitt Romney, will continue to be our top priority.

Posted by: GOP | February 13, 2012, 10:25 am 10:25 am

” The republicans use the debt and deficit as a smoke screen to obscure the fact that they want to keep this recession going in hope it will win them the White House. ” ————————We’ve noticed and we won’t forget this next election .

Posted by: USA_RESIDENT_TAXPAYER | February 13, 2012, 10:30 am 10:30 am

tmferretti | February 13, 2012, 10:19 am ——— NO GOP proposals… really?? —- The GOP-led House passed “Cut, Cap, and Balance”… the ONLY plan to pass either chamber of Congress that exceeded the S&P threshold to avoid the credit downgrade!! —- Too bad the Dems rejected it… and too bad they did not come up with a plan of their own that met the S&P threshold…. and the US credit was downgraded for the first time in history!! ———– If your spouse was spending and spending even though all your credit cards were maxed out, it would be your DUTY to be the “sane” person in the family and cut them off!! —- Well, the GOP is the only sane (most of them anyhow) person in DC that is saying “CUT SPENDING”… WE ARE ON THE BRINK OF BANKRUPTCY!!!!

Posted by: TheLoyalOpposition | February 13, 2012, 10:33 am 10:33 am

” We’re on track now,” Lew said. “We’ve seen several months of sustained economic growth and job creation, but we’re not out of the woods yet.” ****All forecasts I’ve seen are calling for more slow-down while gas and food prices go thru the roof. In the meantime you have the sheeple manipulating the numbers trying to make Obama look good when in fact he really sucks at being President.

Posted by: Gunner_1959 | February 13, 2012, 10:36 am 10:36 am

“His budget for next year is more of the same,” Republican National Committee Chairman Reince Priebus said. “It’s full of more spending and more tax increases that have put this country deeper into debt.”

Tax increases have put this country deeper in debt? Someone needs to give this moron a basic math book. The Bush tax cuts have cost this nation well over a trillion dollars in lost tax revenue. Republicans are fighting to keep the tax cuts for the wealthy while they have no problem threatening to increase taxes on the poor and the middle class. Republicans are idiots, and what’s worse, they think the rest of the country is as stupid as they are.

Posted by: Disgusted with gop | February 13, 2012, 10:37 am 10:37 am

Steal more, spend more. Typical democrat stupidity. Why try something new when proven failure is right at hand? Why do we keep electing these types?

Posted by: Erik | February 13, 2012, 10:37 am 10:37 am

We need to vote the GOP back in office to STOP the path the Democrats have us tumbling down!! —- On January 3rd 2007, the Democrats took over the House of Representatives and the Senate, at the very start of the 110th Congress. —- For those listening to the liberals propagating the fallacy that everything is “Bush’s Fault”, think about this… January 3rd, 2007, the day the Democrats took over the Senate and the Congress:
The GDP for the previous quarter was 3.5%….. The Unemployment rate was 4.6%…. Jobs had been created (no down months) for 52 straight months…. January 3rd, 2007 was the day that Barney Frank took over the House Financial Services Committee and Chris Dodd took over the Senate Banking Committee. ——- The economic meltdown that happened 15 months later was in what part of the economy? —- BANKING AND FINANCIAL SERVICES!!!!!!

Posted by: TheLoyalOpposition | February 13, 2012, 10:39 am 10:39 am

Mr. America
Look what you’ve done
You trade your liberty and sovereignty
for lies and promises….

Posted by: foggy | February 13, 2012, 10:40 am 10:40 am

Barack Obama is the most dangerous man ever to occupy the White House. He is the greatest threat America has ever faced because he is the first traitor to occupy the White House. Every word Obama utters, every breath that passes through his lips, every beat of his heart is dedicated to destroying America, its constitution, traditions, history, economy and future. Barack Obama is the farm-raised stooge of the Marxist cabal that has groomed him, trained him, engineered his election and runs his administration.

Every day Obama sits in the oval office is a criminal assault on every man, woman and child in America. Every member of Obama’s staff, every judge and department head he has appointed, every person who works for his re-election and contributes funds and resources to it, all these people are co-conspirators to Obama’s acts of treason.

The riots in Greece are America’s future. Obama is planning this and needs this to execute his final assassination of America…by creating chaos and violence and fear in the streets of America so that he can declare a State of Emergency and put all Americans under Martial Law.

This is your future under Obama and it is your responsibility to stop it.

Posted by: JohnI | February 13, 2012, 10:41 am 10:41 am

WE ARE ON THE BRINK OF BANKRUPTCY!!!!

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Keep up the good work! We just love it when people believe that!

Posted by: billionaire banksters | February 13, 2012, 10:42 am 10:42 am

THELOYALOPPOSITION

Just as I said. Cut, Cap and Balance is a smoke screen to “do nothing”. From the founding, this country has never had balanced budget. The deficit and debt should be reduced when we are in good economic times, not now. Spending is the only thing that’s going to get us out of this republican mess.

Posted by: tmferretti | February 13, 2012, 10:44 am 10:44 am

Disgusted with gop 10:37 am —— YOU SAID “The Bush tax cuts have cost this nation well over a trillion dollars in lost tax revenue.” ——- PROPOGANDA!!!! —– Did you get out your calculator and multiply without looking at the macro-effect of those cuts???? ——- If you would care to check the revenue records of the US Treasury…. you would find that when these tax cuts were implemented, revenue INCREASED for FIVE STRAIGHT YEARS after the cuts!!! ——- The answer today is to attack the 24% INCREASE in discretionary spending since DEMOCRATS took over congress in 2007!!!!

Posted by: TheLoyalOpposition | February 13, 2012, 10:47 am 10:47 am

“Tax increases have put this country deeper in debt? Someone needs to give this moron a basic math book.”

Maybe you can swap yours for that Econ 101 book you clearly don’t have.

Posted by: foggy | February 13, 2012, 10:48 am 10:48 am

“Jobs had been created (no down months) for 52 straight months”

And at the rate of +1 job per month they created 52 whole jobs.

Posted by: stat attack | February 13, 2012, 10:51 am 10:51 am

Bread and Games, Bread and Games.

Posted by: snewsom2997 | February 13, 2012, 10:53 am 10:53 am

Spending is the only thing that’s going to get us out of this republican mess.

POSTED BY: TMFERRETTI | FEBRUARY 13, 2012, 10:44 AM—The only losers buying that lame line of BS is the hard core blowhard bots like yourself.

Posted by: darla | February 13, 2012, 10:53 am 10:53 am

tmferretti | February 13, 2012, 10:44 am —— We will NEVER be in “good economic times” again unless we boot the Democrats out of the Senate and White House….. Lets Review Obama and the Dem’s record the last 3 years!! —- First US credit downgrade… Spending as % of GDP highest since WWII… Budget deficit as % of GDP highest since WWII… Federal debt as % of GDP highest since WWII… employment as % of population lowest since 1983… slowest jobs growth 26 mo after a severe recession since WWII… % of taxpayers paying income tax (49%) lowest in modern times… government dependency (47% recieiving one or more fed benefit payments) highest in American history!!! —- And NOW Obama runs “against congress” because he has no other option… he can’t run on his dismal record!!!

Posted by: TheLoyalOpposition | February 13, 2012, 10:53 am 10:53 am

“Did you get out your calculator and multiply without looking at the macro-effect of those cuts????”

Why should we? You guys never take the “macro-effect’ into account when considering deregulation.

Posted by: stat attack | February 13, 2012, 10:59 am 10:59 am

More smoke and mirrors from this America hating “president”.

Posted by: Zman | February 13, 2012, 10:59 am 10:59 am

We will NEVER be in “good economic times” again unless we boot the Democrats out of the Senate and White House
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Agreed. And we plan to use every tool at our disposal to make sure of it.

Posted by: gop | February 13, 2012, 11:04 am 11:04 am

Life is a giant game of musical chairs, For the boomers, there were 100 million chairs, and 150 million people looking for a seat, now their are a 1.5 billion chairs and 7 billion looking for a seat. Many people will be left standing, now that the size of the game has increased even more people will be left standing, and for the first time since WW2, many of those people left standing will be Americans. How much does America want to win, what are we willing to do to win, and ensure it is Chinese and Indians are left standing without a chair and not Americans. The only way to do it is to replicate the conditions of the Post War period, and that means destroying the competing industrial capacity, and reducing the global labor force. The question I have to ask is any presidential candidate willing to do that.

Posted by: snewsom2997 | February 13, 2012, 11:04 am 11:04 am

I haven’t read his bill, but I would guess there’s a whole lot of vote buying.

Posted by: newcountryman | February 13, 2012, 11:05 am 11:05 am

OB, you and my wife have the same spending theory. She says the more stuff you buy on sale the more you save. Now, you have added a new twist to give her more ammo. Ending the 2 wars by not budgeting money will save money? Now, she is going to tell me that she had planned to spend an extra $500 but did not because she wants our savings to increase. Darn, I called my banker and told him to increase my savings account by $10,000 due to the fact I decided not to spend the money I never budgeted and would not spend anyway. He did not understand. I told him to listen to OB and if it is good enough for OB it’s good enough for me. Can you believe people are this gullible? Yes, at least 50% in this country are this gullible.

Posted by: choppy seas | February 13, 2012, 11:11 am 11:11 am

THELOYALOPPOSITION

You know the downgrade was a republican problem. They held up the bill to make sure there were no tax increases for the rich.

George Bush left us losing 750,000 jobs a month because of the same policies the republicans are pushing now. The President and the dems have reversed that and we are gaining jobs. The economy is improving, although the republicans hate to see that.

Yes, we are in a recession and more people need help, should we let them starve or live on the streets?

Tell me one proposal by “any” of the republican candidates that will get America working again. All they want is less taxes on the rich and more deregulation that got us into this mess in the first place. Big business is not in business to give us jobs, despite the gullibility of the republicans.

Posted by: tmferretti | February 13, 2012, 11:16 am 11:16 am

The truble with republicans is they want power and money. The middle class people and President Obama want a dream full filled again the way it was 20 years ago. The republicans want 70Ft. ships and 400 room homes and to tell the people to clean them for 50 cents a hour. Grow up republicans this not going to happen because the majority of the people and tthe President Barak Obama will not let it happen.

Posted by: Truth | February 13, 2012, 11:19 am 11:19 am

Over 20 years, from 1980 to 2000, the slope of the line of debt accumulation was approximately 12 degrees. From 2000 to 2008, or approximately 9 years, it was 26 degrees (more than double the slope over less than half the time) and from 2008 to today it was 64 degrees or again more than double the slope over less than half the time. Note that this is just the public debt — the problems in entitlement programs (internal debt) are even worse!

This is a chart of a runaway geometric series.

There is no solution that comes from “slowing it down” — you must stop this right now.

I recognize that nobody wants to talk about it, say much less do it. But mathematical relationships do not care whether you want to talk about them or not. They just are, and Walker is trying to put this into some sort of perspective that aims at Bush and Obama.

He’s full of cr*p. The problem goes back to 1980 when we crossed beyond fiscal sustainability. Every President since that time and every Congress has been part of a gigantic Ponzi Scheme that will inevitably blow up unless we act to stop it NOW.

Posted by: Karl D | February 13, 2012, 11:20 am 11:20 am

$8 Billion dollar job training proposal already exists, it’s called college. Deficit spending is like Obama, an oxymoron. And has anyone looked at Obama’s tax forms online? Law does not require someone to take every tax break that they are entitled to. The Obamas took every tax break and even fully funded their 401K. How can he be against these things while he partakes in them? It’s called hypocrisy.

Posted by: Anthony | February 13, 2012, 11:21 am 11:21 am

Read carefully. The budget calls for “1.3 trillion in deficit spending” and yet would PAY for the spending by generating 1.5 trillion in revenue by raising taxes on the top few percent (and if you earn $250,000 a year or more, you ARE in the top few percent; the top 1.5% in fact…that is how extreme the concentration of income/wealth has become.)

So the so-called “deficit spending” is not ACTUALLY deficit spending. It is paid for by simply ENDING the Bush tax cuts for the top few percent, bringing their tax rates back up to what they were BEFORE these ruinous, job-killing, treasury-draining cuts were made.

So much for the argument that raising taxes on the rich (or even “taking ALL their money”) wouldn’t put a dent in the debt. A modest incease on only the top 1.5% and above wipes OUT the annual deficit.

THELOYALOPPOSITION: With 23 straight months of private sector job growth, 3.2 million private sector jobs created, and the highest number of job postings since Aug. 2008 this month, to characterize the stimulus as “failed” is at best disengenuous (at worst an outright LIE).

Of course the President knows the Republicans will reject his proposals; that does not equate to “political theater” on his part. He is proposing measures he has always advocated (allowing the Bush tax cuts for the wealthiest to expire as they were written to, investing in our future through public works, reseach and development, etc..)

The “theater” begins when the Republicans dig their heels in and refuse to compromise, more intent on political grandstanding and “making Obama a one-term President” than in working to solve problems.

They accuse Obama of “more of the same failed policies”, when in reality, HIS policies averted a Depression and have gone a long way to pull us out of the ditch 8 years of REPUBLICAN policies put us in. THEY are the ones offering more of the same failed approach (hoping, I suppose, that we’ve FORGOTTEN already.)

Posted by: RAVEN | February 13, 2012, 11:27 am 11:27 am

Tax breaks do not boost the economy. We have tried this for 3 decades, and the results are available to analyze: the rich got richer. I am dismayed at all the GOP fans on here talking up supply-side economics, still! It is quackery. It is false. There is no reputable economist who will argue that supply-side economics is a thing that can work to improve a nation’s economic situation. But we have been fed this story our whole lives now, most of us, and so we inexplicably swallow it. The fact is that governments need revenue to make things happen for their constituents. Revenue must include taxation. THAT is “Economics 101,” as all the supply-side sheep like to cheekily say.

Posted by: Jen | February 13, 2012, 11:28 am 11:28 am

Democrats have lost their solid political party affiliation advantage in 18 states since 2008, while Republicans have gained a solid advantage in 6 states. A total of 17 states were either solidly Republican or leaning Republican in their residents’ party affiliation in 2011, up from 10 in 2010 and 5 in 2008. Meanwhile, 19 states including the District of Columbia showed a solid or leaning Democratic orientation, down from 23 in 2010 and 36 in 2008.—Gallup Feb 2012

Posted by: tmferretti | February 13, 2012, 11:29 am 11:29 am

Conservatives are mostly about hating / despising what they can’t figure out or understand . Narrow minded and repressed . I’ve never seen a bigger pack of liars either .Some are simply ignorant or misled but most conservatives have a partisan agenda that is based wholly on sophistry and out-right bold faced lies . As a political party they are at least as dangerous to America and it’s future as the Nazis were in pre WW2 Germany ; as citizens they are insipid and pathetic and love a lie , in general . Conservatives , politicians and voters alike , have well-proven themselves to be cretins / evolutionary throwbacks with a hateful spite about them that depresses everything like a black cloud / rainy day . Just ugh .

Posted by: tiller_of_truth | February 13, 2012, 11:29 am 11:29 am

A final thought. Mr. Prez, your last budget proposal went down in flames 97-0. You know what’s more embarrassing than that little episode? 100-0. Sorry, your fellow Dems ain’t buying. I know, I know. Even tho you will get no Dem support it will be the Repubs fault.

Posted by: choppy seas | February 13, 2012, 11:29 am 11:29 am

All this guy does is DEFICIT SPEND, and he’s spending the country into oblivion !!!!!!

Posted by: Joseph | February 13, 2012, 11:33 am 11:33 am

“and Walker is trying to put this into some sort of perspective that aims at Bush and Obama”

Walker is going to go back in the red by over a hundred million dollars by next year. Like all of the Republican plans he can’t pay for all his tax giveaways to corporations without slashing government services even more savagely, and he’s on the verge of being recalled as it is……

Posted by: stat attack | February 13, 2012, 11:34 am 11:34 am

…more money to pay off the teacher’ unions for their votes. That is no LIE Obama. I can’t tell who is the pimp and who is the prostitute in the Obama/Teachers’ Union match up.

Posted by: JudyNM | February 13, 2012, 11:37 am 11:37 am

Yeah Judynm, it’s more ethical when republicans spend money on that military industrial complex to get things back, right?

Posted by: lexingtonlady | February 13, 2012, 11:40 am 11:40 am

I wonder if he’ll get any votes this time?

Posted by: newcountryman | February 13, 2012, 11:42 am 11:42 am

Obama has no budget. Obama has campaign literature.

Posted by: ray | February 13, 2012, 11:48 am 11:48 am

3.8T Federal Budget is 25% of our 15.2 annual GDP!!! That’s insane. Don’t they see what path that takes us down, just look at Europe and the riots in the streets and austerity measures required to shrink gov’t spending and dependence. Obama said he’d cut our annual deficit in half in Jan 2009, the deficit was running at 1.4T/yr, this budget proposal will result in a 1.3T deficit….FAIL, You Lie Mr. President, simple as that. He’s run up debt at historic and record rates, he took the 10T debt and rasied it by 5.3T in 3 years and headed to 6T+ by the end of his 4th year. Folks, Bush raised the debt by 5T in his 8 years! Wake up America geez.

Posted by: Ted K | February 13, 2012, 11:49 am 11:49 am

President Obama won’t keep 2009 promise to halve the deficit by the end of his first term.

Posted by: newcountryman | February 13, 2012, 11:49 am 11:49 am

“It calls for $1.3 trillion in deficit spending next year, including $350 billion in spending on jobs programs and $476 billion in infrastructure projects. Obama also wants to boost aid for manufacturing research and development by 19 percent above current levels, to $2.2 billion.” – ABC News

? ? ? ? ?
What is this, failed stimulus #4?

And why does NoBo want to spend money on Manufacturing R&D?
What factories does the federal government operate?
That’s a private sector concern.

Posted by: Noz | February 13, 2012, 11:50 am 11:50 am

Seems that everyone has forgotten about Clinton’s fragile house of cards he built during his term.
We had all sorts of companies going under or laying off people, but the cutesy word at the time was not layoffs or closings, but DOWNSIZING.
There were numerous DOT COM companies that went down along with many TELEMARKETING jobs going overseas to our GOOD FRIENDS IN PAKISTAN, INDIA, etc.
IBM along with GE closed numerous plants here and laid of thousands of people off during the Clinton years and also farmed out numerous jobs overseas.
NAFTA allowed jobs for the auto makers to go to Mexico in lieu of staying here.
The only real outstanding thing in Slick Willie’s tenure was seen by Monica Lewinsky, a teenager not much older than Chelsea Clinton, Bill Clinton’s only child.
To lay all the blame on Bush JR is an outrage when you have a rookie politician like Obama with his 1st stimulus, which was a failure with no real accountability on where it all went to date, state ” I didn’t understand what SHOVEl READY MEANT”.
And you went to IVY LEAGUE SCHOOLS?
(No wonder your school records were and are still sealed.)
I’ll tell you what shovel ready means.
Throwing you out of the White House in Jan 2013.

Posted by: wiredheart | February 13, 2012, 11:51 am 11:51 am

stop WITH ALL of the COMPANEING. the president IS DOING the best he CAN. jUST pay YOUR higher TAXES!!!!!!!

Posted by: demnme5 | February 13, 2012, 11:56 am 11:56 am

Hope and Change. Translation: We can all only Hope (probably in vain) that we have some small Change left to jingle in our pockets when Obama’s term is mercifully ended.

Posted by: BRAVENEWWORLD | February 13, 2012, 11:58 am 11:58 am

A final thought. Mr. Prez, your last budget proposal went down in flames 97-0. You know what’s more embarrassing than that little episode? 100-0. Sorry, your fellow Dems ain’t buying. I know, I know. Even tho you will get no Dem support it will be the Repubs fault.

Posted by: choppy seas

Yep.
The post clearly states Barry is proposing tripe that his own party doesn’t support and the WH has no opinion on whether the Senate should even pass a budget and this whole “budget” is a campaign gimmick for the base.

On the other hand, they seem to be excited for some unintelligible reason.

Posted by: foggy | February 13, 2012, 11:59 am 11:59 am

Raising taxes in the past did not exclude the economy from prospering as we saw during president Clinton’s terms he increased taxes and we had the longest ever economic growth.

Posted by: emerald_sparks | February 13, 2012, 11:59 am 11:59 am

A good chunk, near half of next years deficit could cut with ending the Bush tax cuts to wealthy; it is time to address the revenue side of this problem. In the crosshairs are defense cuts, a subject close to the hearts of conservatives, and the stake in the heart of their big government rants. Wars are expensive, and Bush did not pay for them, defense programs are expensive and the right spending there can prevent the next war. It is time to take a more realistic approach to this from the right, and the revenue side is the obvious place to start.

Posted by: Fernando Arocha | February 13, 2012, 11:59 am 11:59 am

WIREDHEART

Don’t become like Newt and rewrite history. President Clinton ran the best economy this country has ever seen. George Bush and the republicans destroyed that in 8 short years.

Posted by: tmferretti | February 13, 2012, 12:00 pm 12:00 pm

Obama might win again — if he can lie well enough, and if the American public is still willing to be duped.

Posted by: dan | February 13, 2012, 12:01 pm 12:01 pm

In the headline, “Populist” translates into “Socialist”. Clearly.

Posted by: Jasmine | February 13, 2012, 12:04 pm 12:04 pm

As I said, Clinton was pretty good. But I didn’t mean to imply the same for Obama. Unlike Clinton, he is a fairly dogmatic marxist. And that don’t work.

Posted by: emerald_sparks | February 13, 2012, 12:07 pm 12:07 pm

it seems that all of Obama’s lies are making his already freakishly large ears even larger.
Just sayin’, lol.

Posted by: kimberly | February 13, 2012, 12:09 pm 12:09 pm

As an older gay man who gets a governement check, i will be voting for Obama no matter what.

Posted by: blip | February 13, 2012, 12:10 pm 12:10 pm

I live in Kansas, and I am still pretty skeptical about all of these “populist proposals.” Sounds liike demagoguery and bs.

Posted by: 2hundredthousand | February 13, 2012, 12:12 pm 12:12 pm

ANOTHER DEMOCRAT LIE —- They say “we will cut spending IF you raise taxes”…. this lie has worked twice before, why shouldn’t the Democrtats try it again!?!?! —- Reagan believed them in 1982… a deal was struck to raise business and excise taxes in exchange for $280 billion in spending cuts over six years!! —- Of course, the Democrats were lying. Instead of cutting $280 billion, they spent an additional $450 billion!! —– Reagan’s tax cuts brought in an extra $375 billion in government revenue in the next six years, but the Democrats never cut spending!! —- Bush (41) made the exact same deal with Democrats just a few years later pretending to care about the deficit, only to renig again!! —- Do we believe them a THIRD TIME??? — I think not!!!!

Posted by: TheLoyalOpposition | February 13, 2012, 12:14 pm 12:14 pm

“Obama has no budget. Obama has campaign literature.”
Posted by: Ray
Yes. It’s so bad that even the democratically-controlled Senate rejected his last attempt immediately and out of hand. (The same Dem Senate who hasn’t even passed budget in like…forever.)

Posted by: 2hundredthousand | February 13, 2012, 12:15 pm 12:15 pm

Posted by: Fernando Arocha | February 13, 2012, 11:59 am 11:59 am—–And all of it could be cut, by not giving money to people who have not earned it, like 3-6 times more money people receive in Medicare and SSI than they paid in, or the people on unemployment, who have no economically viable or competitive skills, or the tax rebates to people above and beyond what they paid in total taxes.

Posted by: snewsom2997 | February 13, 2012, 12:17 pm 12:17 pm

blip | February 13, 2012, 12:10 pm —- yep… thats the problem…. once 51% of the nation is on the public dole… Democrats (socialists) will be elected forever… the death of the Republic!

Posted by: TheLoyalOpposition | February 13, 2012, 12:19 pm 12:19 pm

May I expand a bit my previous thoughts that contained and coalesced all that is within our current and recently past purview regarding these roundabout and raucously riling issues? Thanks. Let me expand on that a bit: the concentric metrics of Obama spasms in maledictory attempts at reconciling with wacky weirdsters from the left has resulted in the degenerate deconstruction of the maladies of misty mists afflicting his naughty attempts at radical reelection. He made a mistake, it can be ceremoniously cretinized and rectified by November, with luck and more jock-strap like support from sycophants everywhere. Surely and sanctimoniously, craven charts and gluttoneous graphs surreptitious stats can aid in the visual and experiential experiences of pontificatory propaganda on and surrounding our egregious attempts at marauding and marranging the moronical masses who no not knowingly know which dire direction to praise, plead, or stumblingly stumble, or even truculently trot. Heed my advice and info contained solidly and slippery within, or just be a clear dummy or a prancing poltroon.

Posted by: davem | February 13, 2012, 12:19 pm 12:19 pm

I hope Romney gets in. Because he wants to raise the military budget. The same budget that has tripled since 97. Yeah, we need more money for that. Somebody remind The Loyal that Reagan raised a boatload of taxes.

Posted by: lexingtonlady | February 13, 2012, 12:21 pm 12:21 pm

Ive noticed and am very happy reps are going to refuse barack again sorry little boy.

Posted by: drc6212 | February 13, 2012, 12:22 pm 12:22 pm

If I may or might or should, may I expand a bit my previous post that contained all that is within our current and recently past purview regarding these roundabout and raucously riling issues? Thanks. Let me expand on that a bit: the concentric metrics of Obama spasms in maledictory attempts at reconciling with wacky weirdsters from the left has resulted in the degenerate deconstruction of the maladies of misty mists afflicting his naughty attempts at radical reelection. He made a mistake, it can be ceremoniously cretinized and rectified by November, with luck and more jock-strap like support from sycophants everywhere. Surely and sanctimoniously, craven charts and gluttoneous graphs surreptitious stats can aid in the visual and experiential experiences of pontificatory propaganda on and surrounding our egregious attempts at marauding and marranging the moronical masses who no not knowingly know which dire direction to praise, plead, or stumblingly stumble, or even truculently trot. Heed my advice and info contained solidly and slippery within, or just be a clear dummy or a prancing poltroon.

Posted by: davem | February 13, 2012, 12:24 pm 12:24 pm

The democrats have not passed a budget in over 1000 days, the last time Obama proposed a budget it was defeated in the democrat controlled Senate 0-99..It received NO votes

Forecast now is of 4.50-$5.00 gasoline by the end of May (obamas war on the middle working class)… a possible stock market “correction” of 40-60%..You think the last recession was bad wait till this one hits

Posted by: Obama truth squad | February 13, 2012, 12:31 pm 12:31 pm

Apparently DAVEM is making more sense than usual. : ) Alas, we can’t all be sheltered intellectuals.

Posted by: Ka Ching | February 13, 2012, 12:33 pm 12:33 pm

once 51% of the nation is on the public dole…
—————————————

Yeah buddy! -just keep on telling over half the nation that they’re bums [and please be sure to emphasize that this is the standard Republican view of things]. It’s going to work out just splendidly for you this election!

Posted by: thanks again | February 13, 2012, 12:36 pm 12:36 pm

Just another broken promise to add to the long list.

Posted by: jackson | February 13, 2012, 12:37 pm 12:37 pm

OMG! Why does this bozo insist on wasting everyone’s time and MONEY? So one of Obama’s many empty campaign promises was about cutting the deficit in half by the end of four years. It’s obvious to every thinking, sane person that Obama has the spending title in hand. Yet no one on the Democrat side can say he didn’t keep his promise. We’ll he didn’t break his promise he just didn’t do what he said he was going to do….and he’s why. BUSH! Doesn’t it get old for even the most rabid leftys in this country to have a president who won’t take ownership of his failings? He could walk away with reelection if he spoke honestly to the American people. He’s always campaigning. He’s spending trillions to secure votes from the people who will vote for him anyway. We know certain segments of our population will always vote for him, no matter what his policies are doing to this country. The president agrees that the drivers of our debt are the entitlements. Where’s all the reform? He had both Houses of Congress his first two years. He could have gotten reforms IF he had wanted reforms. We know he doesn’t because the people who benefit most from handouts are the people who vote Democrat. Duh. Time to start thinking about the long-term well being of this country. It’s not hard to see the financial catastrophe coming. Is it?

Posted by: s | February 13, 2012, 12:47 pm 12:47 pm

Posted by: thanks again—If they cannot make it on their own, why is that anyone else’s responsibility? How is that any different from calling the productive members of society evil rich people. We made this problem ourselves, we created the entitlements, we keep people a a bare minimal existence and then make them watch everything they don’t have every day. If you want someone to blame blame the Chinese and Indians who more than willing to do the same work for less money, you want to fix it, bomb India and China, destroy their industrial capacity, and their ability to compete, this is life, not some participation trophy soccer game.

Posted by: snewsom2997 | February 13, 2012, 12:48 pm 12:48 pm

For those who are donning ‘OBAMA BUMPER STICKERS’ just remember that the Golden Goose can be killed! If this job killer is reelected, there will be LITTLE (IF ANY) investment by the private sector, and especially small businesses! WHY YOU ASK? BECAUSE THEY WILL BE UNABLE TO AFFORD IT.

Watch for a migration from the US to places like Canada, Australia, New Zealand, Costa Rica, Panama, and to a lesser degree, Mexico.

If you vote for Obama for him to ‘TAKE CARE OF YOU’, make sure that he is in the process of developing OBAMA LTD, and that he is as good MAKING MONEY, as he is spending the resources of others!

Posted by: OldGrunt | February 13, 2012, 12:50 pm 12:50 pm

And lets not forget how committed Obama is to the idea of energy independence. Of course, he’s loathe to allow ANY drilling in/around the U.S., but we’ll get there by investing in more brilliant schemes like Solyndra. What a joke. If you’re politically connected, you get taxpayer money, even if you’re about to file for bankruptcy. Doesn’t seem to get much coverage on the network news, but it doesn’t change what’s going on with this president. I welcome $5/gal gas, don’t you. We’ll really cut back on consumption if we can’t afford to consume. Then the president can talk about how the Keystone pipeline isn’t needed!!! It’s a win-win.

Posted by: s | February 13, 2012, 12:51 pm 12:51 pm

Snewsome it continues to amaze me that you refuse to admit we have boatloads of corporate and wealthy people welfare going down in this country. Those are the ones doing the most damage. Not some family of 4 earning 20K a year.

Posted by: lexingtonlady | February 13, 2012, 12:55 pm 12:55 pm

I sure HOPE some dunderhead in the White House is reading these anti-Obabble posts. You know they are watching us REAL Americans but I know they will not learn how many REAL Americans do not like this clown.

Posted by: Zman | February 13, 2012, 1:00 pm 1:00 pm

Hey S – Drilling is UP. The green loans were started by Bush. Presidents don’t set gas prices and you guys said this not 3.5 years ago as you change the story now. Though I hear if you allow this Keystone pollution pipeline you can expect your gas to go up. As you help Canada sell more on that international market.

Posted by: lexingtonlady | February 13, 2012, 1:00 pm 1:00 pm

LEXINTON LADY

Your right, You can tell it’s not me if I say anything nice about the republicans

Posted by: tmferretti | February 13, 2012, 1:07 pm 1:07 pm

Don’t get discouraged folks….these names aren’t registered or anything. just stick to your message.They have to stoop to subterfuge because their candidates don’t really have anything to run on.

Posted by: Proud American | February 13, 2012, 1:08 pm 1:08 pm

Posted by: lexingtonlady—I am all for ending that too. No Subsidies, no writes offs, no deductions for everyone, we are all either citizens, or we are not. This is different from what you want, you want everyone else’s existence paid for at the expense of the rich. I want everyone to pay for their own existence. If you cannot feed, clothe, or shelter yourself and your family you are not very good at surviving, and that will have an impact in your quality of life.

Posted by: snewsom2997 | February 13, 2012, 1:11 pm 1:11 pm

“Don’t get discouraged folks… just stick to your message.”
POSTED BY: PROUD AMERICAN
LOL. Translation: Just keep on repetitively pecking out and copying/pasting them Dem talking points, and all will be well. Hilarious.

Posted by: Joe Plumber | February 13, 2012, 1:16 pm 1:16 pm

PROUD it’s clearly obvious if a republican spends weeks stealing names and talking to himself it’s a clue they’ve got nothing over there. This is him again as Joe Plumber. I almost feel sorry for somebody that finds this such immature fun so many weeks in a row.

Posted by: lexingtonlady | February 13, 2012, 1:19 pm 1:19 pm

“As I said, Clinton was pretty good. But I didn’t mean to imply the same for Obama. Unlike Clinton, he is a fairly dogmatic marxist. And that don’t work.”
POSTED BY: EMERALD_SPARKS
This is true. But don’t you also agree that the military should be defunded and mostly dimumntled?

Posted by: lexingtonlady | February 13, 2012, 1:22 pm 1:22 pm

Snewsome you can stop now trying to paint me with some brush that thinks in commie terms. This is what annoys me with you guys. This tendency to tell me what I believe just because right now I feel voting left is better than right. What I believe is we’re too wealthy to allow anybody to die without healthcare. That it’s Christian to establish a minimum base line of decency here. Mostly I believe education is the key to poverty elimination and republicans have cut the heck out of it. I believe in facts that say we’re growing the poor in this nation and that’s not good for our country. I also believe some day you’ll be old and possibly needy and you’ll have to eat some of this extreme ideology you seem to have.

Posted by: lexingtonlady | February 13, 2012, 1:23 pm 1:23 pm

“Just keep on repetitively pecking out and copying/pasting them Dem talking points”

Yeah -as if every right-wing comment on here wasn’t lifted right off Fox news!

Posted by: looking for laughs | February 13, 2012, 1:23 pm 1:23 pm

‘LEXINTON LADY
Your right, You can tell it’s not me if I say anything nice about the republicans.”
POSTED BY: TMFERRETTI
Sorry for the grammer and speling mistakes. But I have become a bit discmbobbulated.

Posted by: tom the ferret | February 13, 2012, 1:24 pm 1:24 pm

Obviously LL is spending far too much time posting and fretting about posting. Why not just go play bridge or Old Maid with the other people in the institution?

Posted by: memphis Man | February 13, 2012, 1:26 pm 1:26 pm

Too funny!!!

Posted by: edward | February 13, 2012, 1:26 pm 1:26 pm

“I almost feel sorry for somebody that finds this such immature fun so many weeks in a row.”
POSTED BY: LEXINGTONLADY
A good confession. I also almost pity (and certainly laugh at) the group of 24/7 Obama supporters who loiter and live on these comments in place of living real lives. LOL.

Posted by: Jimmie | February 13, 2012, 1:29 pm 1:29 pm

“‘Just keep on repetitively pecking out and copying/pasting them Dem talking points’
Yeah -as if every right-wing comment on here wasn’t lifted right off Fox news!”
POSTED BY: LOOKING FOR LAUGHS
Not true, but even if it were true, is that any worse than lifting them straight off of MSNBC, you know the hyper-partisan network that perhaps a hundred people watch? LOL.

Posted by: Also Laughing | February 13, 2012, 1:32 pm 1:32 pm

The real question is just why does LLady spend night and day on here, day in and day out. Just to be laughed at because she is so hysterically ignorant? Masochism City it be.

Posted by: barb | February 13, 2012, 1:35 pm 1:35 pm

After all of the recent press on Planned Parenthood and Susan G org, where’s the press on ”
Planned Parenthood Gulf Coast is a defendant in a federal lawsuit after a former Lufkin clinic employee alleged a multi-million-dollar billing scheme.” ? Haven’t heard? Google quote and find out.

Posted by: deanbob | February 13, 2012, 1:37 pm 1:37 pm

The libs should have never started this phony posting schtick.
Very sorry to see that my good friend, LL, clearly needs an intervention.

Posted by: searambler | February 13, 2012, 1:39 pm 1:39 pm

Income redistribution, stupid spending. Nothing new, nothing creative. That’s what you get when you have a neophyte who has no business or economic experience in the White House. Time for real hope and change in November 2012. It’s obvious from the past three years, this president doesn’t have a clue as to what he’s doing…except improving his golf game.

Posted by: TJ in CA | February 13, 2012, 1:41 pm 1:41 pm

Well, yes, LexingtonLady, probably the US military should be defunded and dismantled. But I just hope we don’t get attacked after that.

Posted by: emerald_sparks | February 13, 2012, 1:48 pm 1:48 pm

lexingtonlady

Wow! You must have really paddled somebody to illicit this kind of animosity. Congratulations!

Posted by: psych ward | February 13, 2012, 1:49 pm 1:49 pm

It seems that LexingtonLady’s definition of a good “comment link ” is one that is basically a libster circle jerk. Typical attitude, actually.

Posted by: Dan Halliday | February 13, 2012, 1:51 pm 1:51 pm

Next Lexingtonlady will be demanding that the moderator delete any posts that don’t agree with her point of view. Typical liberal..

Posted by: dem has been | February 13, 2012, 1:57 pm 1:57 pm

Of course it is our official position that the burden of deficit reduction should fall squarely on the shoulders of working class Americans, whether they are fully employed or not. Protecting the Bush era tax cuts, especially for our distinguished colleagues like Mitt Romney, will continue to be our top priority.

Posted by: GOP | February 13, 2012, 10:25 am 10:25 am

*****

Posted by: Lennie | February 13, 2012, 2:01 pm 2:01 pm

I do believe this thread has been hijacked :^0

Posted by: snewsom2997 | February 13, 2012, 2:02 pm 2:02 pm

“lexingtonlady
Wow! You must have really paddled somebody to illicit this kind of animosity. Congratulations! ”
Posted by: Psych Ward
You may win the spin of the day award. She’s never “paddled” anyone other than herself. Pretend harder. LOL.

Posted by: old man truth | February 13, 2012, 2:09 pm 2:09 pm

“Next Lexingtonlady will be demanding that the moderator delete any posts that don’t agree with her point of view. Typical liberal..”
Posted by: Dem Has Been
Whether stated or tacit, this is always the ultimate goal. Complete censorship of, or shouting over of, all dissent from the libby party line.

Posted by: Jack Spratt | February 13, 2012, 2:11 pm 2:11 pm

GOP are very sad losers…which makes them LOSERS…& I only say that because they lie & say anything but the truth….all to protect what? the wealthy? guns ?? & they hide behind their churches which if they listened teaches to help people less fortunate. Not gang up with other wealthy dips & protect your wealth. That’s what this country has come to. Look at all these posts , it’s like one person or who knows.Who just libs this libs that. That’s all they got. Name calling, tax cuts for the wealthy & no gun control & no birth control. Man GOP, what LOSERS. Think for a change. You might win one, but bot this time, you didn’t think. You just got upset over your stupid self built emotions. Good luck with that….ahem…L

Posted by: billYboBreDnecK | February 13, 2012, 2:13 pm 2:13 pm

There’s no talking sense to conservatives , they have their stupid fact less minds made up . They’ll see next election . ” Shellackings” can go both ways in US politics .

Posted by: davem | February 13, 2012, 2:17 pm 2:17 pm

Posted by: Lennie | February 13, 2012, 2:01 pm 2:01 pm

What do you know about work? You’re part of the problem.

Posted by: Bill | February 13, 2012, 2:19 pm 2:19 pm

Before the budget was delivered to Congress, our local GOP Congressman was on a right wing talk show discussing its faults. This before he even knew what was in it!!

But, I do have a major gripe with the new budget. It is asking for a new round of domestic base closures in 2013 and 2015. Before we do that, we need to have a major BRAC round for military and governmental installations outside of the USA. A recent google search shows around 800 military bases alone that we could close/realign/whatever.

Posted by: Bob Ramos | February 13, 2012, 2:23 pm 2:23 pm

“The libs should have never started this phony posting schtick .”—————–Actually I spoke on the phone at length with one of the editors @ ABC news last week about the person(s) making fake posts on this website . They used my online name which just happens to be my real name as well . She told me that the FCC had been contacted and they were waiting for a reply and she apologized for the inconvenience . She did say that ABC has all the IP addresses of everyone who posts . They know there is a problem , they know who is doing it and they are certainly doing something about it from what she told me . Good things come to those who wait . Be patient .

Posted by: H.N.Keller | February 13, 2012, 2:30 pm 2:30 pm

Republicans call for corporate tax breaks almost every day, and continuing tax breaks for the rich. It’s ironic how they sit on their hands when it comes to small business and middle class tax breaks.

Americans better start paying close attention to who’s on the American peoples side and who’s only on the side of multi-national corporations and the super wealthy.

When GOP politicians inject the term “the American people”, they are only talking about corporate America and the wealthy. They fight against employee rights, employee benefits and anything that may help employees and mom and pop businesses. They don’t care about true small business otherwise they would have voted for the bill in 2010 that was a loan bill specifically FOR SMALL BUSINESS!! They ALL voted against it!

Posted by: Lennie | February 13, 2012, 2:31 pm 2:31 pm

Its going to so damn funny to see the look on Obama’s face when he gets kicked out of office!
He should be asked to pay for all his luxury vacations he took around the world!
He should just start packing his things now and make it easy on himself!

Posted by: BIG JIMMY | February 13, 2012, 2:38 pm 2:38 pm

To ABC, The reason it is easy to post as someone else is that when you hit the back button on the browser it sometimes fills in the login information with some other persons credentials.

Posted by: snewsom2997 | February 13, 2012, 2:44 pm 2:44 pm

“She’s never “paddled” anyone other than herself. Pretend harder”

Sure,,,that’s why you can’t sit down.

Posted by: psych ward | February 13, 2012, 2:45 pm 2:45 pm

He should be asked to pay for all his luxury vacations he took around the world!

Posted by: BIG JIMMY | February 13, 2012, 2:38 pm 2:38 pm

What luxury vacations did he take around the world? You are aware he’s President of the United States aren’t you?

Posted by: Jim | February 13, 2012, 2:47 pm 2:47 pm

Lennie you say that as if Obama’s tax the wealthy rhetoric means anything different than taxing the middle class to death. For as we have seen Obama’s rich buddies like BUffet (who owes millions for years and refuses to pay it), General Electric (who pay virtually no taxes on their millions) Geitner (who refuses to pay taxes) Kerry ( who will not pay his boat taxes) and so many others, claiming to raise taxes on just their evil rich (even if you lack the morals to know singling out any one group to be forced to pay everyone else is wrong) is just communist BS talk meaning that they want more of your money so they are going to say the rich will be taxed (even though the laws won’t be applied to them because they buy pol friends like Obama daily so it will be the middle class and honest rich people who don’t buy pols). Are people really so stupid that they believe Obama is going to tax his rich buddies and they haven’t noticed that it is middle and poor classes paying for Obama’s bs?

Posted by: bebesaid | February 13, 2012, 2:48 pm 2:48 pm

It will take many years to repair the horrible damage the Obama administration has done to our country. We will be very lucky to escape the disaster that Greece is now dealing with after Obama has doubled down on the debt and is still spending money like a wild man that just won the lotto!

Posted by: BIG JIMMY | February 13, 2012, 2:49 pm 2:49 pm

Google “ObamaCare Architect: Premiums to Soar” for what Obamacare architect Jonathan Gruber now believes about Obamacare. How many progressives/Dems will bother reading ?

Posted by: deanbob | February 13, 2012, 2:49 pm 2:49 pm

So much HATE from you all. Love it! Obama’s to blame, Bush is to blame, blah, blah… Armageddon just around the corner! And the more posts that stack up, the more the hate becomes personal. No more listening/digesting, just reading a post in order to generate a scathing rebuttal. LOVE IT!!!!

Posted by: Gdad | February 13, 2012, 2:52 pm 2:52 pm

When the GOP candidates stop ripping each other to shreds and come up with an individual who might actually *qualify* for the role of POTUS, then and only then will I worry. But since that hasn’t happened and conservatives keep running to back the new flavor-of-the-week, I don’t think the sitting president has one little thing to worry about. The general public has been watching in amused horror while the GOP implodes. Everybody knows it’s happening and while it used to be worrisome, it’s all just become a laughable farce.

Posted by: ethelbert | February 13, 2012, 2:53 pm 2:53 pm

Posted by: bebesaid | February 13, 2012, 2:48 pm 2:48 pm

I know exactly what President Obama’s taxes propose – and no – they do not propose the poor and the middle class pay more – why would you bother to spread that lie? Desperate? The Republicans are sinking into their own filth. Here come the Republican lies again.

Posted by: Lennie | February 13, 2012, 2:54 pm 2:54 pm

Staying firmly planted in the middle, I have to ask, what happened to the “crisis” a month or so ago about reducing spending? Any budget that involves incurring MORE debt should be slam-dunked by both parties! And BTW, how many administrations have run without a budget, ever?

Posted by: wildblue | February 13, 2012, 2:57 pm 2:57 pm

snewsome2997, good luck trying to get the webmaster’s attention. I’ve spoken to customer service on three occasions trying to raise the issue of PRIVACY because this bug allows other users to access someone else’s private information (i.e. personal email addresses) They weren’t terribly concerned. You might find it useful to discontinue using a legitimate email address to protect yourself.

Posted by: veravumstucker | February 13, 2012, 2:58 pm 2:58 pm

“ANYONE can type in ANY name and ANY email address and it will post. “——————-Yes anyone can post anything under any name or email but the unique and easily traceable IP addresses for each separate post shows who is fake and who is not . Thus ABC news and the FCC can easily ascertain where and who the troublemaker(s) is /are . If you’d bother to read the user agreement on this website you’d know that stealing names and posting as another user is illegal under ABC terms of use agreement not to mention most civil courts in the USA as well . As I said before , they know who is doing the name / identity stealing and from what I understand they are doing something about it as well.

Posted by: H.N.Keller | February 13, 2012, 3:09 pm 3:09 pm

VERAVUMSTUCKER—Yes I know you can see others addresses but knowing that you would have to be an idiot to use your real email address. I haven’t used my real address in here for years for that reason. Again….its ABC’s problem……no hacking involved.

Posted by: allen | February 13, 2012, 3:10 pm 3:10 pm

DEANBOB

“ObamaCare Architect: Premiums to Soar” The thing Gruber fails to accountant for is the increased competition. He’s right if we maintain the status quo where the insurance companies have a monopoly in most states, they will increase premiums.

We’ve already seen, at my company, new insurance providers coming in and asking our HR department to look at their plans which offer the same coverage at lower costs. We are expecting a decrease in the amount coming out of our checks this year because our old provider has lowered premiums to keep these new companies out.

Once the mandates go into effect these new providers will lower costs even more to get a piece of the middle class market. This is how free market capitalism should work, not the abnormal capitalism the insurance industry practices today.

Posted by: tmferretti | February 13, 2012, 3:18 pm 3:18 pm

H.N.KELLER | FEBRUARY 13, 2012, 3:09 PM—I believe that use agreement is in reference to the other type of forum that ABC uses. The one where you actually have to sign up, provide a real address thatwill be verified and read the agreement and log in onto to be able to post. You read NO USER AGREEMENT when posting on this forum. This forum is a joke and has been for years.

Posted by: allen | February 13, 2012, 3:19 pm 3:19 pm

Btw , it’s against civil law in most places in the USA to claim or assert in any way you are someone else , for any reason .
No jail , but BIG fines.

Posted by: tabhunter'sghost | February 13, 2012, 3:38 pm 3:38 pm

Republicans claim to have the loyalty for our country but can’t stand for the wealthy to pay a bit more tax to help pay our war debt. Instead they want to lay off teachers and police as well as cut services for the poor and elderly. Yep, that’s loyalty.

Posted by: Librarian53 | February 13, 2012, 3:48 pm 3:48 pm

Most times maybe but in this case it was a privacy / identity theft issue that goes outside of civil bounds , thus the FCC involvement , at least that was what I inferred from our limited conversation .

POSTED BY: H. N. KELLER | FEBRUARY 13, 2012, 3:33 PM—Then the FCC will be fining ABC and no one else. They are the reason this has been going on. You can post on these forums from any PC anywhere without logging in …libraries, restaurants, etc..

Posted by: allen | February 13, 2012, 3:49 pm 3:49 pm

Btw , it’s against civil law in most places in the USA to claim or assert in any way you are someone else , for any reason .
No jail , but BIG fines.

POSTED BY: TABHUNTER’SGHOST | FEBRUARY 13, 2012,—Good luck with that in here.

Posted by: allen | February 13, 2012, 3:50 pm 3:50 pm

Just kidding. I know LL is a lame poster. Was just havin’ some fun.

Posted by: Psych Ward | February 13, 2012, 3:59 pm 3:59 pm

I do, however, agree with LL and Emerald_Sparks that the US military should be defunded and mostly “dismuntled”. That way more money can go into worthy things, like food stamps and unemployment insurance.

Posted by: Psych Ward | February 13, 2012, 4:02 pm 4:02 pm

Some librarians just don’t get it. It is SPENDING that needs to be cut, not taxes RAISED. The spending most in need of cutting is the very kind Obama fancies most: political payoffs and corrupt pork.

Posted by: librarian52 | February 13, 2012, 4:04 pm 4:04 pm

More adamant reverse-reality from LENNIE. Obama’s proposals do indeed call for hefty tax hikes on the middle class. Stop lying, lennie.

Posted by: Your Shadow | February 13, 2012, 4:07 pm 4:07 pm

what about the 800.000,000.00 mil he giveing arabs THE SOB,,,,,,,,, LOL

Posted by: wilson | February 13, 2012, 4:08 pm 4:08 pm

May I expand a bit my previous post that contained all that is within our current and recently past purview regarding these roundabout and raucously riling issues? Thanks. Let me expand on that a bit: the concentric metrics of Obama spasms in maledictory attempts at reconciling with wacky weirdsters from the left has resulted in the degenerate deconstruction of the maladies of misty mists afflicting his naughty attempts at radical reelection. He made a mistake, it can be ceremoniously cretinized and rectified by November, with luck and more jock-strap like support from sycophants everywhere. Surely and sanctimoniously, craven charts and gluttoneous graphs surreptitious stats can aid in the visual and experiential experiences of pontificatory propaganda on and surrounding our egregious attempts at marauding and marranging the moronical masses who no not knowingly know which dire direction to praise, plead, or stumblingly stumble, or even truculently trot. Heed my advice and info contained solidly and slippery within, or just be a clear dummy or a prancing poltroon.

Posted by: davem | February 13, 2012, 4:11 pm 4:11 pm

Stop WITH all ofthe COMPLAININNG!!! The PRESIDENT is doing the BEST he can. Just PAY your HIGHER taxes!!!!!

Posted by: DEMNME5 | February 13, 2012, 4:15 pm 4:15 pm

yes, i’ll grant you no “hacking” involved but there IS the privacy issue. This particular blog-style comment section has only been available under the aegis of Disqus for about a year. While any user can use any name/email, the visibility of other users’ data has just started in recent weeks. The “old” style articles have never been an issue, so many of us were accustomed to having our private information protected. We’ve all had to switch to faux email addresses just recently for security. That should just never have to happen.

Posted by: veravumstucker | February 13, 2012, 4:15 pm 4:15 pm

““She’s never “paddled” anyone other than herself. Pretend harder”
Sure,,,that’s why you can’t sit down. ”
Posted by: Psych Ward
Not only can I sit down, I can laugh as I do so. Again — Pretend harder, much harder.

Posted by: Old Man Truth | February 13, 2012, 4:17 pm 4:17 pm

As a free thinker, I have an answer for both sides (Demons and Repubes)– The private sector needs to give back to the community and subsidize social services– schools, emergency, roads, etc, etc. you’re welcome.

Posted by: Gdad | February 13, 2012, 4:25 pm 4:25 pm

The Republican National Committee Chairman Reince Priebus should stop talking politics and take a good look at the budget blueprint and make informed comments. This is a balanced budget, given the complex issues that are happening, it is a way forward. It must be done or else this internal bickering will bring the US down and the rest of the world will lose their respect. Is this what Americans want? Americans put these politicians in Congress so now they have to face the music with these dysfunctional handful of people. Is it so hard to understand the concept united we stand, divided we fall???

Posted by: Dan | February 13, 2012, 4:26 pm 4:26 pm

I just checked out how bad Romney is tanking against Obama in all the national polls and I’m laughing the most of all!!!

Posted by: ouch! | February 13, 2012, 4:36 pm 4:36 pm

Why won’t this president even consider presenting a budget that would have the support of his own party? As to Dan posted “This is a balanced budget…” How do people who think $1.3 TRILLION of deficit spending = a balanced budget? I just don’t know how to respond to that classic liberal way of thinking. This is why we should all be very concerned about who wins in November.

Posted by: s | February 13, 2012, 4:46 pm 4:46 pm

Romney has lost almost 20 points among independents in just the last month! No wonder some of you are so desperate……

Posted by: ouch! | February 13, 2012, 4:48 pm 4:48 pm

We’ve all had to switch to faux email addresses just recently for security. That should just never have to happen.

POSTED BY: VERAVUMSTUCKER —Why in the world you would want to use real address is beyond me. Heck in the forum that requires a log in I created a gmail account just to do that. I have never used that account since then for anything else.

Posted by: allen | February 13, 2012, 4:49 pm 4:49 pm

S if you cut it too much we have WAY more unemployment. It’s a deficit economy he inherited and it is what it is. THIS is the classic liberal thinking.

Posted by: lexingtonlady | February 13, 2012, 4:54 pm 4:54 pm

Hey OUCH!, I hope them polls this far out from the election help you sleep at night. Don’t have too many nightmares about Obama losing, and losing badly, in November. Just wait for the reality to smack you in about 9 months. LOL!

Posted by: LOL Indeed | February 13, 2012, 4:57 pm 4:57 pm

But wait……………….Republicans can still salvage the independent vote by substituting…..and here’s the really funny part…ready?…..by substituting.Rick Santorum instead! LOLOLOL

Posted by: ouch! | February 13, 2012, 4:57 pm 4:57 pm

“Romney has lost almost 20 points among independents…”
Posted by: Ouch!
That’s nothing compared to the many millions of Independents that Obama has lost since he was elected the first time. Oh, and all of those stay at home on election day dems …LOL! And OUCH!

Posted by: jerry | February 13, 2012, 5:00 pm 5:00 pm

I am gay — and proud. But not especially proud of being gay.

Posted by: dan | February 13, 2012, 5:02 pm 5:02 pm

Will all of you desperate right-wingers please stop grasping!

Posted by: straws | February 13, 2012, 5:08 pm 5:08 pm

“Will all of you desperate right-wingers please stop grasping!”
Posted by: STRAWS
What a weird come on. You’re just begging to be “violated”.

Posted by: Donald's Duck | February 13, 2012, 5:14 pm 5:14 pm

Has anything changed? Nope. Obama still sucks just as badly as ever.

Posted by: sai | February 13, 2012, 5:15 pm 5:15 pm

Well, you know I’m all you got left!

Posted by: straws | February 13, 2012, 5:31 pm 5:31 pm

Few can deny that enthusiasm for our candidates is at a fever pitch!

Posted by: gop | February 13, 2012, 5:45 pm 5:45 pm

“Well, you know I’m all you got left!”
Posted by: STRAWS
Nope, not by a long shot. Unlike you I have actual heterosexual relationships, and friends and family too. :)

Posted by: donald's duck | February 13, 2012, 5:54 pm 5:54 pm

Funny how “populist” now means marxist or socialist under Obama.

Posted by: A little birdy | February 13, 2012, 5:55 pm 5:55 pm

Kind of sad how the “cool” 12-16 year old crowd hardly ever talks about Obama anymore. Another quick fad bites the dust.

Posted by: Da Dems | February 13, 2012, 5:57 pm 5:57 pm

Not sure who I hate more, Republcans or Democrats.

But I trust Obama more than the knuckleheads in Congress!

Posted by: JJ | February 13, 2012, 6:04 pm 6:04 pm

The President acts like a drug dealer giving addicts the drugs they want. He wants to keep the addicts happy and get as many people hooked as possible! The problem is that most addicts are satisfied doing only the minimum required to get by and will even mug a little old lady to support their habit. The President should be ashamed!!

Posted by: Common _ Sense | February 13, 2012, 6:13 pm 6:13 pm

The President acts like a drug dealer giving addicts the drugs they want.

Posted by: Common _ Sense | February 13, 2012, 6:13 pm 6:13 pm

Be serious. When Obama took over the half-way house Bush had left a full-blown addict fully addicted to debt to the Chinese staggering off the road into the ditch of economic collapse. YOU should be ashamed of your manipulation of the truth.

Posted by: Bob | February 13, 2012, 6:34 pm 6:34 pm

Bob you’re lecturing people that refuse to admit they had 12 years of holding the purse strings.

Posted by: lexingtonlady | February 13, 2012, 6:46 pm 6:46 pm

Another broken promise……Just add it to the growing list of failures from Obama.

Posted by: wact1 | February 13, 2012, 6:47 pm 6:47 pm

President Obama “doubled down” creating as many “Big Government” addicts as possible! This is demonstrated by the number of people collecting food stamps, low work force percipitation rate and requiring “free” birth control as part of Obamacare swindle!

Posted by: Common _ Sense | February 13, 2012, 7:05 pm 7:05 pm

Posted by: Common _ Sense | February 13, 2012, 7:05 pm 7:05 pm

Be serious. When Obama took over the half-way house Bush had left a full-blown addict fully addicted to debt to the Chinese staggering off the road into the ditch of economic collapse. YOU should be ashamed of your manipulation of the truth.

3.7 million more people have jobs now than when the Bush vampire’s collapse finished. The rehabilitation from the Bush catastrophe is slowly taking place. Slow, steady progress. That’s the way rehab works – one day at a time, steps forward into the positive.

Posted by: ino moorethanu | February 13, 2012, 7:20 pm 7:20 pm

BOTH Democrats AND Republicans are the problem. The problem is not (nor ever has been) the revenue side. It has ALWAYS been the expenditure side. No matter HOW MUCH money a politician gets, he wastes it… and then ask for even more to waste.
There has not been a single GOVERNMENT program that has:
a] Worked.
b] Spent what was said they would spend.
c] Not wasted money.
d] Been effecient.
We have had wars on education, drugs, poverty, illiteracy, guns, etc. and EVERY SINGLE ONE has gotten worse. The constant repeating of mistakes thinking that there will be a different outcome is the definition of insanity. This whole country is insane…..
The Government needs to return to the past when Government was NOT spending all of it’s money on social issues that it had no business in (and in which it was unable to get it’s grubby little paws into until enough people had been brainwashed (sorry… “educated”). It needs to budget it’s money and be responsible to the taxpayer. Instead it views taxpayers as nothing more than an unlimited “slush” fund from which to take and take and take. But what happens when the tax payers disappear?
Spending IS the key to the economic recovery… BUT NOT GOVERNMENT SPENDING. It needs the expansion of businesses both large and small and it needs the people to get jobs so that they can spend to create opening for yet another round on new businesses. NONE of which is done by Government spending. Reduce taxes, reduce restrictions, and keep the course clear. Instead the last several administrations have increased restrictions and made the future murky while at the same time spending, spending, spending without insuring that there was money to be spent. If I ran my family budget the way the government runs theirs, I would be bankrupt… they, unfortunately, have the ability to simply print more money. That just means that when they run out of means to pay for all of this, the fall will be that much harder for the average person. After all… do you REALLY believe that the government will pay it’s bills? Or will they do as they have always done and make everyone else pay?

Posted by: kbrum1066 | February 13, 2012, 7:38 pm 7:38 pm

There has not been a single GOVERNMENT program that has:
a] Worked.
b] Spent what was said they would spend.
c] Not wasted money.
d] Been effecient.
————————–

Absolutely false. Nothing proves that wrong more dramatically than Medicare, which provides more coverage more efficiently and with less overhead, bureaucracy and cost, than any private alternative.

Posted by: baloney patrol | February 13, 2012, 7:49 pm 7:49 pm

Obama didn’t even try to cut the deficit. I will never vote for a democrat again.

Posted by: ginger | February 13, 2012, 8:22 pm 8:22 pm

Obama didn’t even try to cut the deficit. I will never vote for a democrat again.

Posted by: ginger | February 13, 2012, 8:22 pm 8:22 pm

Actually his budget does cut the deficit.

Posted by: Gerry | February 13, 2012, 8:34 pm 8:34 pm

3.7 million more people have jobs now than when the Bush vampire’s collapse finished. Posted by: ino moorethanu | February 13, 2012, 7:20 pm AND When Obama took over the half-way house Bush had left a full-blown addict fully addicted to debt to the Chinese staggering off the road into the ditch of economic collapse.Posted by: ino moorethanu | February 13, 2012, 7:20 pm – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – President Obama’s Orwellian “Truth Squads” are out in full force trying to blame Bush for everything. That could work for a year or two but it is President Obama’s “failed” policies to blame now!

Posted by: Common _ Sense | February 13, 2012, 8:50 pm 8:50 pm

Actually his budget does cut the deficit.

POSTED BY: GERRY | FEBRUARY 13, 2012,—No it doesn’t you idiot… Spin, spin, spin away…

Posted by: frank | February 13, 2012, 8:52 pm 8:52 pm

Actually his budget does cut the deficit.

POSTED BY: GERRY | FEBRUARY 13, 2012,—No it doesn’t you idiot… Spin, spin, spin away…

Posted by: frank | February 13, 2012, 8:52 pm 8:52 pm

Frank get some facts before you embarrass yourself further – Obama’s 2012 deficit reduces the deficit from that of 2011 and his 2013 budget reduces it further.

Posted by: Gerry | February 13, 2012, 8:57 pm 8:57 pm

Another trillion dollar deficit is not helping save the country in the long term. All the President is doing is putting forth a spending package that will capture the most votes possible. It is sad that the majority of Americans are taking funds from the government to live on. Socialism pure and simple. Wake up America – it is not a free lunch for all.

Posted by: Fairandbalanced | February 13, 2012, 9:01 pm 9:01 pm

Obama promised to cut the deficit by half during his first term. He only has a year left and it’s not looking like this budget is going to do anything but increase the deficit.

Posted by: sensible99 | February 13, 2012, 9:03 pm 9:03 pm

and how would theloyalopposition explain the tremendous rise in tax revenues within two years following the Bush tax cuts? I know it can make a liberal’s brain explode trying to understand that you can cut taxes and grow revenues. The notion that the extra billions Obama wants to siphon off the hardest working among us will somehow be directed at deficit reduction is laughable. Only a liberal or university student would believe that. More revenues = more wasteful, unlawful spending like Solyndra. Gee, who wouldn’t want to vote for more of that?!!!!! Morons.

Posted by: s | February 13, 2012, 9:23 pm 9:23 pm

Saying Obama has a “budget” is like saying a hooker has an essay on chastity.

Posted by: Boris Spider | February 13, 2012, 9:51 pm 9:51 pm

ABC – Why didn’t you mention that Obama’s budget continues to grow the (already bloated) Government? HUH, WHY? Instead you use phony terms like “populist”.

Obama just doesn’t get it. WE’RE IN DEBT, and we have to pay all borrowing back, with interest.

Obama’s just Wimpy on steroids “I’ll glady pay you Tuesday for a hamburger today”.

Posted by: meab | February 13, 2012, 10:04 pm 10:04 pm

Obama/Democrats don’t have any other answers except to tax the rich. They don’t know how to make a budget and cut spending. In fact the Democratically controlled Senate hasn’t had a budget in over 3 years!!!! Obama /Democrats were handed a jobs producing offer from Canada called the Keystone Pipeline, but Obama turns it down!! Instead of taking Canada’s offer of thousands of additional jobs, taxes and oil which we need since gas has risen 90% since Obama became POTUS he throws money at failed entities. For example Solyndra Solar Company was given loans for $535 million of our tax dollars. The company went bankrupt!! In fact the Bush administration had rejected giving Solyndra the loans because it was a bad risk but for some reason Obama foolishly gambled with our money.He also gave millions of our tax dollars in loans to Fiskar auto which is laying people off AND wants to build these cars in FINLAND!!! I am not kidding. So the real question is are Democrats /Independents really this gullible???

Posted by: whathappened08 | February 13, 2012, 10:22 pm 10:22 pm

“Not sure who I hate more, Republcans or Democrats.
But I trust Obama more than the knuckleheads in Congress!”
POSTED BY: JJ
Well then, may we sign you up for the gullible group? Oh wait, not so fast…”knuckleheads in Congress”. That would include the Democratically-controlled Senate, who rejected Obama’s last budget immediately and out of hand? And the same Democratic Senate who hasn’t even passed a budget at all in more than two years? LOL.

Posted by: Ponder it more | February 13, 2012, 10:34 pm 10:34 pm

“Actually his budget does cut the deficit.”
POSTED BY: GERRY
Sad to see some people, intentionally or in ignorance, continue to believe in Obama’s absurd shell game. Please wise up.

Posted by: Randy | February 13, 2012, 10:43 pm 10:43 pm

What’s really absurd is believing Republicans can lower deficits and debt. All of their plans either increase the debt enormously over the next ten years, or cut taxes so much for corporations and the wealthy that they can never be paid for. it’s one of the biggest jokes in history.

Posted by: tvc15 | February 13, 2012, 11:03 pm 11:03 pm

I admit it’s even more absurd to believe that spending more and ever more as Obama proposes will ever lower the debt and deficits. This is maybe the biggest bad joke of all.

Posted by: tvc15 | February 13, 2012, 11:14 pm 11:14 pm

Who here would ever think of allowing Obama to handle your own budget, or that of your family? If you say — “Duh, I would” — then you are obviously and laughably lying, or you should not be allowed to roam free without supervision.

Posted by: Simplicity | February 13, 2012, 11:23 pm 11:23 pm

actually it’s already hopeless, our candidates are so weak. The Republicans should just sit this one out.

Posted by: ponder it more | February 13, 2012, 11:25 pm 11:25 pm

That same do-nothing, Democratically-controlled Senate will be rejecting this budget from Obama, just like last time. Ah, gee. What then? How should that be spun? LMAO!

Posted by: Howdymo | February 13, 2012, 11:30 pm 11:30 pm

I admit the Republicans have got nothing to offer. I just have to assuage my petty fears….

Posted by: randy | February 13, 2012, 11:31 pm 11:31 pm

With Chris Christie, Jeb Bush and Mike Huckabee out, all we have in is a bunch of lousy second-stringers. It’s no wonder we’re getting creamed out there.

Posted by: randy | February 13, 2012, 11:36 pm 11:36 pm

“Actually his budget does cut the deficit.”
POSTED BY: GERRY
Sad to see some people, intentionally or in ignorance, continue to believe in Obama’s absurd shell game. Please wise up.

Posted by: randy | February 13, 2012, 11:41 pm 11:41 pm

Well independents have apparently come to the realization that the whole Mitt Romney platform is a shell game, and have wised up nicely, by about -20 points.

Posted by: read it and weep | February 13, 2012, 11:55 pm 11:55 pm

There you go. Obama’s answer is to spend another $1 trillion plus dollars! Where are all of you Obama supporters that said he will cut spending? Where’s the media outrage? Our country is doomed down this path.

Posted by: commonsenseparty | February 14, 2012, 3:11 am 3:11 am

The Bush tax cuts did NOT increase revenue. Anyone who believes that doesn’t understand basic economics.

“The new CBO data show that changes in law enacted since January 2001 increased the deficit by $539 billion in 2005″

“George W. Bush’s CEA chair, Greg Mankiw, who used the term “charlatans and cranks” for people who believed that “broad-based income tax cuts would have such large supply-side effects that the tax cuts would raise tax revenue.”

Posted by: BoboMcStevens | February 14, 2012, 3:19 am 3:19 am

Gerry | February 14, 2012, 1:23 am —– Bush used spending bills for the wars, but even with that added into Bush’s budget, Bush’s deficits would still have been less than half of any of Obama’s. Just check the government website on annual deficits and add about $100 billion to Bush’s. BTW, Bush’s war spending was added to the national debt, it was simply done through spending buills, not the actual budget. While Obama want’s to spend another $1+ trillion in 2013, he will lower the annual deficit by about 20%, but we need to spend less, not more. He will still add near $1 trillion to the national debt in 2013 and that is only IF his budget passes and they adhere to it. When was the last time they did that?

Posted by: commonsenseparty | February 14, 2012, 3:20 am 3:20 am

Read It And Weep, sorry but I just laughed at your jabber. What you refer to is nine months away from election-time, and it is less than nothing compared to the many millions of Independents that Obama has lost, who misguidedly voted for him last time, but won’t be doing so again. And, uh Gerry, no, since that didn’t even happen in the spinning way you say. I am referring to Obama’s constant lies and shell game with expenditures and fudged numbers and projections, and his constant stance that more and more failed spending will somehow reduce the deficit. Again — wise up, and get honest.

Posted by: Randy | February 14, 2012, 3:24 am 3:24 am

Just look at Greece to see where we are headed with uncontrolled spending. Riots in the streets of America is what my grandchildren have in their future. Is this the American dream? His promise to bring the country together must have been a crack pipe dream he had, because all he has done is divide this country more. Like the saying goes, ” pay me now or pay me later”, only later will cost us all much more. The republican plan, where is it? Neither party gives Americans much of a choice and this election again is about which is the lesser of two evils.

Posted by: Indymind | February 14, 2012, 5:40 am 5:40 am

LOL! …. after both the Reagan Tax Cuts and the Bush Tax Cuts, both of which contributed to those two presidencies leaving the country with “MULTI-TRILLIONS” in debt, I don’t think Republicans are in any position to talk about a “balanced budget”. Their credibility is shot!

The Republican Mantra: “More Tax Cuts” (without cuts in spending) ……….. and that’s what got us in this mess. The two largest increases in the rate of climb of the nation’s debt occurred while Republicans were in office, and after the “Tax Cuts” mantra (Reagan and Bush Tax Cuts) was executed:

Nixon and Ford administrations combined national debt increase = $292 Billion
(Debt Balance when Nixon takes office = $363 Billion…Debt Balance when Ford left office = $655 Billion)

Carter administration national debt increase = $280 Billion
(Debt Balance when Carter takes office = $655 Billion, leaves office = $935 Billion)

Effect of Ronald Reagan and the “Reagan Tax Cuts” (without dealing with cuts in spending):
National debt increase under Reagan = $1.75 Trillion ($1,748 Billions).
Debt Balance when Reagan takes office = $935 Billion; leaves office = $2.683 Trillion ($2,683 Billion)
NOTE: Reagan’s Debt Increase Compared with Carter’s equals +624% more than Carter’s
NOTE: Reagan equals the first U.S. President to have the debt increase “in the 2 trillions” under his one presidency.
Reagan wrote the book for the next two presidents after him to follow… “How to Introduce Tax Cuts, Never Cut Spending, and Run the Government Off of $2 Trillion Dollar Debt”

George H.W. Bush (Bush # 1) administration debt increase = $1.4 Trillion

Clinton administration debt increase = $1.6 Trillion

Effect of George W. Bush (Bush # 2) and the “Bush Tax Cuts” (without dealing with cuts in spending):
National debt increase under Bush # 2 = $4.9 Trillion ($4,900 Billions).
Debt Balance when Bush # 2 takes office = $5.7 Trillion; leaves office = $10.6 Trillion
NOTE: G.W. Bush’s Debt Increase Compared with Clinton’s equals +300% more than Clinton’s
NOTE: G.W. Bush equals the first U.S. President to have the debt increase “in the 5 trillions” under his one presidency.

….. and the Bush Tax Rates continue today….. and Republican candidates for President say we need “MORE TAX CUTS!” …. LOL! America, you don’t pay off your bills by reducing your income. Both Ronald Reagan and G.W. Bush proved that.

Posted by: Forrest Gump is DEFINITELY a Republican | February 14, 2012, 7:18 am 7:18 am

From Factcheck.org:
“The nation’s total debt stood at $10.6 trillion on the day Obama took office, and it had increased to nearly $15.4 trillion by the end of January 2012 — a rise of more than $4.7 trillion in just over three years.
That’s a huge increase to be sure — 44.5 percent. And the Congressional Budget Office now projects that it will grow to more than $16 trillion by the end of the current fiscal year on Sept. 30. At that point, the debt will have increased by more dollars in Obama’s first four years than it did in George W. Bush’s entire eight-year tenure, when it rose by $4.9 trillion. The rise under Obama would then be the biggest dollar increase for any president in U.S. history.”
POSTED BY: SAD BUT TRUE
The essential and salient facts, for sure. Worth noting.

Posted by: jerseybabe | February 14, 2012, 9:26 am 9:26 am

please Stop WITH all ofthe COMPLAININNG!!! The PRESIDENT is doing the BEST he can. Just PAY your HIGHER taxes!!!!!

Posted by: demnme5 | February 14, 2012, 9:29 am 9:29 am

Just like Elmer Fudd, still chasing “pesky wabbits”, and still failing miserably, failing even in their absurdly ignorant insults (Forrest Gumps = R’s, lol) . Much like Obama himself. LOL! And…hehehehehe…

Posted by: ELMER FUDD IS DEFINITELY A DIM DEM ELMER FUDD IS DEFINITELY A DIM DEM | February 14, 2012, 9:34 am 9:34 am

@2HundredThousand
Just stick to your own points, and please stop with un-PC teasing of me just because my “spam” and silliness reflects that I am gay and still live in my mommy’s basement. It is likewise unkind and mostly irrelevant to point out that I have obviously never even seen the film “Forrest Gump”, or that I thoroughly and stupidly misunderstood it.

Posted by: FORREST GUMP IS DEFINITELY A REPUBLICAN | February 14, 2012, 9:35 am 9:35 am

There are others, no doubt, but here are some of the best of the shorter ones so far…

“Obama has no budget. Obama has campaign literature.”
(RAY)

In the headline, “Populist” translates into “Socialist”. Clearly.
(JASMINE )

Well, yes, LexingtonLady, probably the US military should be defunded and dismantled. But I just hope we don’t get attacked after that.
(EMERALD_SPARKS)

That same do-nothing, Democratically-controlled Senate will be rejecting this budget from Obama, just like last time. Ah, gee. What then? How should that be spun? LMAO!
(HOWDYMO)

Saying Obama has a “budget” is like saying a hooker has an essay on chastity.
(BORIS SPIDER)

Posted by: Some of the Best | February 14, 2012, 9:44 am 9:44 am

The budget has not been Obama’s strong suit, but he will learn to do better if we just give him four more years to improve.

Posted by: noflyzone2 | February 14, 2012, 10:01 am 10:01 am

“Nothing proves that wrong more dramatically than Medicare, which provides more coverage more efficiently and with less overhead, bureaucracy and cost, than any private alternative.”

Posted by: baloney patrol | February 13, 2012, 7:49 pm 7:49 pm

“Anywhere between five and the next 12 years, Medicare as we know it will go bankrupt.” – U.S. Sen. Marco Rubio, R-Fla., appearing on Meet the Press, 5-1-2011

The 2011, the Medicare and Social Security Trustees report said that Medicare will be insolvent in 2024, five years earlier than the previous year’s report anticipated.

Posted by: Sad But True | February 14, 2012, 10:09 am 10:09 am

Posted by: noflyzone2 | February 14, 2012, 10:01 am 10:01 am

I’m bankrupt now because the budget was not my spouse’s strong suit, but he will learn to do better if I just give him four more years to improve.

Posted by: Trina | February 14, 2012, 10:26 am 10:26 am

“Debt On Arrival” This is not about us. This is about our children and their future. Thanks to a president who panders to the greedy and the envious (not just people who have truly fallen on hard times and need a helping hand) America has become a selfish country where almost half of the population believes that the government is obligated to provide their most basic needs (food, housing, birth control, cell phones, etc.). The government establishes an arbitrary poverty level. People who can do for themselves but don’t create more and more government spending and bigger and bigger government. This is their legacy to their children and your children. Obama is an economic wrecking ball. Last year his budget was unanimously voted down, 97-0 because even his own Dems knew it was a stinker.

Posted by: Brooklyn, USA | February 14, 2012, 11:49 am 11:49 am

America has become a selfish country where almost half of the population believes that the government is obligated to provide their most basic needs
———————————————–

We just love to hear that!

Posted by: billionaire banksters | February 14, 2012, 12:34 pm 12:34 pm

“America has become a selfish country where almost half of the population believes that the government is obligated to provide their most basic needs.”
Whatcha mean? i can’t stay volunterily unemployed and have my needs and desires met? That ain’t fair, bro.

Posted by: Food Stamp brigade | February 14, 2012, 12:43 pm 12:43 pm

Billionaire Banksters 4 Obama! Man, was that stimulus stuff great for a some of us. And Solyndra — taking the rubes to the cleaners bigtime. Loving it.

Posted by: Obama's Rich Friends | February 14, 2012, 12:46 pm 12:46 pm

“America has become a selfish country where almost half of the population believes that the government is obligated to provide their most basic needs.”

Thanks again! Just keep telling half the nation that they’re bums….we’ll happily accept all their votes in November.

Posted by: obama victrory fund | February 14, 2012, 1:26 pm 1:26 pm

Obama sucks. See, it’s not so hard to admit the obvious.

Posted by: INO MOORETHANU | February 14, 2012, 3:13 pm 3:13 pm

well, sometimes in order to fix the patient in order for the patient to get better, yeah, there is some pain involved. The Unemployment rate is still high, which means those people are not paying taxes. I am sure there is a lot of cutting that could be done at the Federal Level that is not going to be done, our congressman who have enough money to live on for the rest of their lives wouldn’t stand for those kind of cuts.

Posted by: Gregory Johnson | February 14, 2012, 7:21 pm 7:21 pm

The headline reads like Obama is straining to take a marxist dump.

Posted by: Why and LOL | February 14, 2012, 9:43 pm 9:43 pm

See! Obama said Hope and Change. Change is all I got! I Hope another candidate will make it better!

Posted by: Steve | March 1, 2012, 11:55 pm 11:55 pm

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