Transcript for White Nationalist Responds to Texas A&M Protests
Tonight we take you to a showdown between a self-proclaimed white nationalist and hundreds of protesters. Richard Spencer, founder of the so-called alt-right movement which has gained national attention in recent months, became infamous when video went viral of his supporters hailing trump with Nazi salutes. When he accepted an invitation to speak on a college campus, the community stood against him. Reporter: Emotions bubbling over at Texas A&M. With the university becoming an ideological battleground. Last night, thousands came together to protest one man. White people are ruling right now. White people have tremendous amount of power. Reporter: Richard Spencer, the man who coined the term alt-right, who critics are now calling a suit and tie racist. Hail trump! Hail our people! Hail victory! Reporter: Last month this video of Spencer at a so-called alt-right conference exalting in trump's win. Going viral after some in attendance went as far as throwing the deeply disturbing Nazi salute, propelling him into the national spotlight. A white country, designed for ourselves and our policy boss perty. Reporter: His movement he says boosted by trump's win. You went from obscurity to notoriety. I think Donald Trump slingshoted our movement into fame. Reporter: We traveled to Texas to examine the roots of the new generation of racial extremism, meeting up with a 38-year-old just before his next event. You gave a speech, it went viral on "The atlantic." At the end you said, hail trump. Hail victory. You laugh. Why? Because that was said in a spirit of irony and exuberance. What is exuberant about genocide? What is fun about mass murder? I said hail trump, but I held up a glass of whiskey. There's some people that, a half dozen in the audience, who gave a Roman salute. It's not a Roman salute, you know that, it is a Nazi party salu salute. Are you trying to normalize racism? Yes, I'm trying to Normal it racism as you call it, absolutely, I'm trying to norm normalize my ideas, our ideas of the alt-right, yes. I do not want the alt-right to be a fringe movement, I want the alt-right to be a dominant movement. Reporter: He claims he's not a white supremacist or a racist but it is difficult to understand his inflammatory rhetoric in any other way. You told "Mother Jones" his pan ins and African-Americans have lower average iqs than whites and are more genetically predisposed to commit crimes. Yes. That is a classic tenet of white supremacy. It's empirical fact. Genetically predisposed? That is not a fact. When you study average intelligence around the world and you keep getting the same answer, at some point you're going to have to look towards genetics as a cause. What do your parents think of your ideas? They think I'm a bit crazy. They do? It's actually strained your relationship, according to you? A lot of things have been strained because of my activism, yes. It's been very difficult. Businesses in the Montana have banned you, restaurants have said you can't come? Sure. I've been banned from most of Europe. Reporter: Texas A&M denounced his views but decided not to ban him, citing free speech. He was invited by a former student, hoping to spread his incendiary views. His presence today not without considerable controversy. We don't like him! Go home Spencer, we don't want you, that's what he's saying. Right. I'm here. I think that's good. Do you feel like a pariah, though? Do you feel like a skunk at the garden party? A skunk at the garden party? No. What kinds of things were you shouting? I want people to see through their lies and misguidance. They are not alt-right. They are not racial realists. They are neo-nazis. Look, they're just like -- they're gutter punks. They're not good people. Let's be honest. Hey, could I borrow a marker? Thanks. Reporter: With our cameras rolling Spencer further defies his detractors, writing on a wall the students set up to voice messages against him. You enjoy being a provocateur? Yeah, who wasn't? Reporter: Spencer and his supporters feel emboldened by a political landscape he never dreamed of. Thank you very much. What was your reaction the moment you knew that trump won the presidency? It was a kind of miracle. If someone told me two years ago that Donald Trump would be the alt-right hero and he would be president -- I would be like, what ridiculous movie are you talking about? This is not real life. But it is real life. Reporter: Although the president-elect publicly distanced himself from the alt-right in an interview with the "New York Times." Alt-right. You say you coined the phrase. Yes. What does it mean to you? The identity politics for white people in the 21st century. Look. I think the alt-right has gained a great deal of ground precisely because we are provocative and precisely because -- to use bad language, we don't give a . The term alt-right is really nothing more than a rebranding of white supremacy for the digital 18 age. I don't think anybody should be fooled by what it is at its core, and that is, white supremacy. Reporter: According to the southern poverty law center there's already been a spike of hate crimes and harassment in the days after the presidential election. More than 800 reported in 47 states. They believe the first line of defense is spotlighting what they consider dangerous hate speech. Richard Spencer. He's the head of the alt-right. The godfather of the alt-right. And quite frankly, Mr. Trump ran a racially divisive campaign. I think the media has an obligation to cover Richard Spencer. No kkk! The shouting, this pretty rowdy group of protesters, a coalition of student groups and anti-hate groups who says, he has every right to say what he says, but it's their first amendment right to protest. This is us uniting together to have fun and come together. Reporter: Spencer says his ideal world is an all-white ethno-state where races are segregated, with a peaceful ethnic cleansing. Would I be allowed to live in your ethno-state? No, but you could have your own ethno-state. Very gracious of you. This would be a new type of society. A big empire for all Europeans -- How do you remove 100 million blacks, Latinos, Asians from your ethno-state? The ethno-state is an ideal. It's not going to happen tomorrow morning. You're quoted as saying it could be horribly bloody and terrible. That that's a possibility. Of course that's a possibility. I think the current paradigm that we are living under is going to lead to blood and tears, period. You're predicting a race war? Basically. I don't know exactly what's going to happen, but yes, I do think that it will be a crack-up predominantly on racial lines. Reporter: As night pfalls, several hundred have gathered for Spencer's talk. We're about ten minutes away and he has a packed house. I would expect fireworks. Across the street the university's president signs that very wall that Spencer wrote on earlier in the day. Well, I believe we live in a world where the differences actually make us stronger. Reporter: And he, along with a series of musicians, students -- Aggies united! Reporter: Literally drowning out his hateful message at the nearby football stadium. When there's fear and hate inside us, when our differences divide us, let love lead the way. I love you all. I'm referring to people like you -- Reporter: Back at Spencer's event, the vast majority of his audience indeed was there in opposition. With multiple outbursts and clashes erupting during his speech. Security had to intervien to de-escalate several volatile exchanges. At one point, police in riot gear entered the student union. But none of the hostility took Spencer off message. This is out of goddamn country. Our goddamn country. Reporter: At the football stadium, it is the soaring message of tolerance and diversity that unites the aggies and drowns out that hateful and unwelcome din next door. ???
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