Transcript for Judge orders Paul Manafort to jail pending trial
This is an ABC news special. Good morning for those of you just join us some time Thomas with some breaking news regarding Paul man a fort. President from former campaign chairman. Here's what we've just learned a judge had DC federal court has just revoked mr. manna forts bond he will be detained pending trial. He's been under house arrest since October of 2017 with an ankle monitor the reason he allegedly violated the terms of his release by witness tampering. This is a major development all of it happening of course under the umbrella of the special counsel's investigation into Russian collusion with the trump campaign. Why is metaphor important he ran the campaign no question about it during an incredibly important time just before and just after the nominating convention. These charges though stem before his time with the campaign. When I make that very very clear that he was brought in large part by Trump's children who wanted to change from campaign as record when doubts he. Metaphor is one of the highest weight control campaign aides to face charges in a Ford is facing more than forty charges relating to money laundering. Bank fraud and more than that largely all of that predates his time on the campaign. And Fortis pleaded not guilty won't go right now to our Chief Justice correspondent Pierre Thomas in Washington for the very latest. And peers judge Amy Berman Jackson essentially making it clear she does not trust polio for took all the guidelines of his house arrest. And this may be one of the biggest development so for in this case. Us. Time she took these allegations of obstruction of justice. Extremely seriously. The notion that he was reaching out to witnesses that's is what the prosecution the special counsel's office is alleging that he was reaching out. Two witnesses tried to influence their testimony. One of the witnesses according to the prosecution said it. Metaphor was trying to suborn perjury I eat to get him to lie or mislead investigators to the judge took that seriously she's that he will be detain. Pending trial she said it was a very difficult decision but she basically said that metaphor had not been treating that. Case seriously enough and that she has reason to believe it he's been. Committing crimes and would continue to do so Tom and peer many of man a force friends have told ABC news they believe this entire case. Because it predates the campaign is all about putting pressure front man afford to give up what could be potentially damaging information on the president. Well clearly these special counsel has been playing hardball planning. Pressure on manna for two the myriad of charges have been filed against him but it's very important to upon our to our viewers at. These charges stem from allegations of actions that took place after. A superseding indictment was levied against the -- for it they claimed it after those charges were filed a man apart reached out to at least two witnesses. Tried to contact and did communicate with them and then tried to get them according to the government to change their potential testimony. Our PR standby when it good or chief legal analysts now Dan Abrams Dan walk us through what you think of this decision right now we understand that he's going to be detained. Pending trial that that could lead us to believe he possibly is on his way to jail. Yeah I mean meaning that when that decision is made in all likelihood it means that he won't leave the courtroom. Long. Out premed and a you don't remember though when it comes to the purposes. Of load bail on. The you know they're cute things you're trying to do number one you're trying to make sure person shows up. And number two you're trying to make sure that her. Of their release are abided. And the focus here is really on number two. There's no indication thus far that men afforded going to police the concern is that he simply has not been abiding by the terms of the his bail and until. That that meeting that it naral he's going to be held if they can appeal this they can try to get the judge to change her mind down the road. But you know it doesn't look good for now all this mean that called that a ports go to jail. Did I want to read you some quotes from the judge's decision she she said I struggle with this decision. I have no appetite for this in the end I can't turn a blind eye to these allegations. Clearly the special counsel's evidence. That he had violated house arrest that he possibly. Had done some witness tampering was very clear. And I think it's important to know you hear a lot of people saying. You know how much pressure Mann a port is being put on by the special counsel that people that they're trying to get him to flipper to talk you know I think it's simpler than that. Which you'd think that the special counsel is going by the letter of the law. And saying look one of the terms of your release. Would that you wouldn't reach out to any other potential witnesses. And not only did you do that you tried to influence according to the spirit special counsel's office. That witnessed so I think that it is not about trying to get metaphor to slip as much as it is simply. Forcing Mann a port to abide by what were the terms of his release. Dan Abrams we thank you for analysis Pierre Thomas has some new reporting on this breaking news let's go back to pier with that. Tom we have some color from the courtroom. The marshals led Matt afford away from the court and that he would return to his wife after he waved to her. And gave him his belt wallet. And those items so he's clearly likely going to jail today. Peter you've been covering this from the get go from when when the charges first came down back in October of when he seventeen. How big is the state right now what's just happened a palm and a four. Well is clearly he was a former campaign chairman for the current campaign. Clearly he's very senior official now facing. Serious charges today being led to jail pending trial this is extremely unusual for white collar suspected criminal to be. Held pending trial and the judge has said that. His flight risk has multiplied. And that was another factor that she was putting together in connecting. This decision top OK Peter thank you we have reached out to the president's attorney so far. No response yet we do know wanna go to the White House cure Phillips has been standing by for us watching all these developments secure you spoke with the president earlier today. He has been on his own campaign since the charges first came down against Pullman a port saint he had very little to do with the campaign. That not is necessarily true because he had a very important role just before the convention just after the convention it's making sure he secured the nomination. What does the president saying today. Well let let me get back to that just a second but this is coming out right now Tom actually I can tell you. That sources close to the trump legal team this is being told to ABC news right now sources close to the trump legal team. Are stunned. By the man a fort decision stunned by the man of fort decision. And you mentioned that gaggle that happened it here today that was unprecedented. That has never happened before the president has never. Walked out from the mansion. And stood behind where we all go live and actually talk to the press for twenty minutes time it was quite remarkable. But in the interview I did ask him in that in that her gaggle I should say. Do you think that Matta for kids go to jail it's the only time that he turned away from me and didn't answer my questions. A couple other questions were thrown out I will tell you as trump is you know it's been tried to distance himself from at a port lately. He did tell all of us as a group that his former campaign chairman quote had nothing to do with our campaign. He also went on to say that Paul Mann a port worked meat or meat for a very short period of time. He worked for me me what 49 days or something. If he actually served as you mentioned on Trump's campaign. For nearly six months in 2016 the president's saying. 49 days or so. Also the president said today that he has not spoken to Paul man a fort Tom. Okay Keira Phillips with that new reporting cure we think you. A large development president trumps former campaign chairman from the trump campaign now on his way to jail.
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