Transcript for Presidential Nominees Debate Race Relations, Police-Involved Shootings in the US
Remove and our next segment talking about America's direction and let's start by talking about race. The share of Americans who say race relations are bad in this country is a high suspend decades much of an amplified by shootings of African Americans by police. As we've seen recently in Charlotte and Tulsa. Race has been a big issue in this campaign and won a view is gonna have to bridge a very wide and bitter gaps are how do you heal the divide. Secretary Clinton you get two minutes on the. Well you're right. Race. Remains. A significant. Challenge an our country. Unfortunately race still determines too much often determines where people live determines. What kind of education. In their public schools they can get and yes it determines how they're treated in the criminal justice system. We've just seen those two tragic examples in both Tulsa and Charlotte. And we've got to do several things at the same time. We have to. Restore trust. Between communities. And the police. We have to work to make sure that our police. Are using the best training the best techniques. That they are well prepared. To use force only when necessary. Everyone should be respected by the law. And everyone should respect the law. Right now that's not the case and a lot of art neighborhoods. So I have ever since the first day of my campaign called for criminal justice reform. I've laid out a platform that I think would began to remedy some of the problems we have in the criminal justice system. But we also have to recognize an addition to the challenges that we face with policing there are so many good brave police officers. Who equally want reform so we have to bring communities to gather in order to begin working on that. As a mutual goal. And we've got to get guns out of the hands of people who should not happen. Done epidemic. Is the leading cause of death of young African American men more than the next nine causes put together. So we have to do two things as I said we after restore trust me after work but the police we have to make sure they respect the communities and their communities respect them. And we have to tackle the plague. Of gun violence which is a big contributor to a lot of the problems that we're seeing today are in. It's our view of two minutes how do you heal the divide the first most Secretary Clinton doesn't wanna use. A couple of words and that's law and order. We need law and order we don't have it. We're not gonna have a country. And when I look at what's going on in. Charlotte the city I love the city where I have investments. When I look at what's going on throughout various parts of our country whether it's I mean I can just keep naming a mauled a law. We need law and order. In our country and I just got today had these as you know the endorsement of the fraternal order of police we just just came in. We have endorsements from I think almost every police group very I mean a large percentage of them in the United States. We have. A situation where we have. Our inner city as. African Americans Hispanics. Are living in hell because it's so dangerous. He walked down the street you get shot. In Chicago. They've had thousands of shootings thousands. Since. January 1 thousands of shootings. Thus and whereas this presents a war torn country what are we doing. And we have to stop the violence we have to bring back law and order. In a place like Chicago where. Thousands of people have been killed thousands over at the last number of years tracked almost 4000 have been killed since Barack Obama became president of affordable almost four. Thousand people in Chicago have been killed. We have to bring back law and order. Now whether or not in a place like Chicago you do stop and frisk which worked very well mayor Giuliani is here worked very well in New York. It brought the crime rate way to. But you take the gun away from criminals that shouldn't be having it we have gangs roaming the street. And in many cases there illegally here illegal immigrants and their guns and they should people. And we have to be very strong and we have to be very vigilant we have to be we have to know what we're doing. Right now our police in many cases. Are afraid to do anything we have to protect our inner cities because African American. Communities are being decimated entered by crime your chest and you're shipments experiment do want to follow stop and frisk was ruled unconstitutional. In New York because it is largely singled out. Black and Hispanic young now at your wrong it went before. A judge who is a very against police judge. It was taken away from her and our Mair. Our new mayor who refused to go followed with a case there would have won or appealed if you look at it. Throughout the country there are many places where argument is that it isn't it's a form of racial profile not the argument is that we have to take your guns away from these people that have them and that are bad people that shouldn't have them. These are felons these are people that up there are people that shouldn't be. When you have 3000 shootings in Chicago. From January 1 when you're a 4000 people killed in Chicago. I guns from the beginning of the presidency of Barack Obama his hometown. You have to have to stop and frisk you need more police. You need a better community. You know relation spewed don't have good community relations in Chicago it's terrible I have property that he it's terrible what's going on Chicago but when you look and Chicago is not the only you go to Ferguson you go to so many different places. You need better relationships I agree with. Secretary Clinton on this you need better relationships between the communities and the police because in some cases it's not good. But you look at Dallas where the relationships were really study. The relationships were really. A beautiful thing and then five police officers were killed. One night very violently. So there's some bad things going on some really bad things are quite what we need Lester we need law and order and we need law and order. In the inner cities. Because the people that are most affected by what's happening are African American and Hispanic people and it's very unfair to them. What our politicians. Are allowing to happen secondly. Well I've heard jam I've heard Donald say this Sam at his rallies and it's it's really unfortunate that he paid it's such a dire. Negative picture. Black communities in our country are now the vibrancy of the black church that. Black businesses that employ so many people. The opportunities. That so many families are working to provide for their kids. There's a lot that we should be proud of and we should be supporting and lifting up. But we do you always have to make sure we keep people safe. There are the right ways of doing it and then there are ways that are ineffective. Stop and frisk was found to be unconstitutional. And in part because it was ineffective. It did not do what it needed to do now I believe in community policing. And in fact violent crime is one half of what it was in 1991 property crime is down 40%. We just don't want to see it creep back up. We've had 25. Years up very good. Cooperation but there were some problems some unintended consequences. Too many young African American. And Latino man ended up in jail for nonviolent offenses. And it's just a fact. That if you're a young African American man and you do the same thing as a young white man you are more likely to be arrested. Charged convicted and incarcerated. So we've got to address the systemic racism in our criminal justice system. We cannot just say law and order we have to say. We we have to come forward with eight plan that is going to divert people from the criminal justice system. Deal with mandatory minimum sentences which have put too many people away for too long for doing too little. We need to have more second chance programs I'm glad that. Where ending private prisons in the federal system I wanna see demanded in the state system. You shouldn't have a profit motivation does still prison cells with young Americans. So there are some positive ways we can work on this. And I. Believed strongly that common sense gun. Safety measures would assist us right now and this is something Donald us supported. Along with the gun lobby right now we've got too many military style weapons on the streets and a lot of places. Our police are out done. We need comprehensive background checks and we need to keep guns. Out of the hands of those who will do harm and we finally need to pass a prohibition. On anyone who's on the terrorist watch list. From being able to buy a gun in our country if you're too dangerous to fly. You are too dangerous to buy a gun so there are things we can do and we gotta do it in a bipartisan survey asserted they're gonna last. You said we've got to do everything possible to improve policing to go right that implicit bias. Do you believe that police are implicitly biased against black people. Lester I think implicit bias is a problem for everyone not just police. I think unfortunately too many of us in our great country. And jump to conclusions about each other. And therefore I think we need all of us to be asking hard questions about. Cowell why MIA feeling this way. But when it comes to policing since it can have literally fatal consequences. I have said in my first budget we were lied. Put money into that budget. To help us deal with implicit bias by retraining. A lot of our police officers I've met with a group of very distinguished experienced police chiefs a few weeks ago. They admit it's an issue they've got a lot of concerns mental health is one of the biggest concerns because now police are. Having to handle a lot of really different called mental health problems on the street. They watts support they want more training they want more assistance and I think the federal government. Could be in a position where we wouldn't doubt offer and provide that. I'd like to respond you see. First of all I agree and a lot of people even within my own party want to give certain rights to people on watch lists a no fly list. I agree with you when a person is on a watch list or a no fly list and have the endorsement of the NRA which I'm very proud of these are very very good people and they're protecting the Second Amendment but. I think we have to looked very strongly had no fly lists and watched Lewis and when people are on their even if they shouldn't be on there will help them will help them legally will help them get off. But I tend to agree with that quite strongly I do want to bring up the fact that you were the one that brought up the words super predator. About young black youth. And that's a term that I think was CNN Torrance been horrible he met as you know I think you've apologize for it. But I think it was a terrible thing to say and when it comes to. Step in Pristina you're talking about taking guns away well I'm Doug about taking guns away from gangs in people that use them. And I don't think I really don't think you disagree with me in this if you wanna know the truth I think may be this a political reason why you can't say yet. But I really don't believe in New York City stop and frisk. We had 2200. Murders and stop and frisk brought it down to 500. Murders 500 merges a lot of murders. Hard to believe 500 is like supposed to be good. But we went from 2200. To 500 and it was continued on by Mayor Bloomberg. And it was terminated by current manner but stop and fit frisk had a tremendous impact on the safety of New York City tremendous beyond belief. So when you say it has no impact it really did it had a very very big impact. Well it's also fair to say a for gonna talk about ten mayors that. Under the current mayor crime is continued to drop including murders so there are you know as year old bell I'm not her up it. All right New York, New York has done an excellent job and I get credit I give credit across the board going back. Two mayors two police sacked chiefs because. It has worked and other communities need to come together to do what will work. As well look one murder is too many. But it is important that we learn about what has banned affective and not go to things that sound good that really. Did not have the kind of impact that we would walk. Who disagrees with keeping neighborhoods safe but let's also add. No one should disagree. About respecting. The rights. Of young men. Who live in those neighborhoods. And so we need to do a better job working again with the communities. Faith communities business communities as well as the police to try to deal with those. Robin has conversations about race and mr. trump I have to ask what I'd like to fire responded I might prefer your real twenties I like to responders respond and I've got a I were all look. The African American community has been let down by a politicians. They talk good around election time like right now and after the elect. Should they sit seal literacy in four years. The African American. Community of BP look the community within the inner cities has been so. Badly treated. They've been abused and used in order to get votes by Democrat. Politicians because that's what it is safe control these communities are more up to a hundred years mr. trump will dwell on record I and I will tell you it. You look at the inner cities and I just left Detroit and I just left Philadelphia and I just you know you've seen me have been all over the place. You decided to stay home and that's okay but I will tell you. I've been all offer and I've met some of the greatest people I'll ever made. Within these communities and they are very very upset with what they're politicians have told them and what they're politicians have done mr. I think I think that I think Donald just criticize me for. Preparing for this debate. And yes I did. And you know what else I prepared for I prepared to be president and I think that's a good thing. It. Com for five years you perpetuated a false claim of the nation's first black president was not a natural born citizen you question his legitimacy in the last couple of weeks. You acknowledge what most Americans have accepted for years the president was born in the United States can you tell us what took you so that's a very well. Just very simple to say. Sidney Blumenthal. Works for the campaign and close very close friend of Secretary Clinton. And her. Campaign manager Patti Doyle. Went to two in the campaign her campaign against. President Obama fought very hard and you can go look it up and you can check it out and if you look at CNN this past week. Patti Solis Doyle was on Wolf Blitzer. Saying that this happened. Blumenthal sent McClatchy. Highly respected reporter at McClatchy. To Kenya. To find out about it they were pressing a very hard she felt. To get the birth certificate when I got involved. I didn't trail I got him to give. To vs intricate so I'm satisfied with that and I'll tell you why I'm satisfied with a guy was because I want to get on. To defeating nice it's because I want to get on to creating jobs because I wanna get on to having a strong border. Because I want to get on to things that are very important to make and that a very important to the country. I'll let you response department disheartened to get the answer. The Bursa terrorist murders in 2011 you continue to tell the story and question the president's legitimacy in 201213. 1415. As recently as January so the question is what. Change well I would it was pressing that nobody who is caring much about it I figured you're just a question tonight of course. But nobody was caring much about it but I was the one that got him to produce. And the birth certificate and I think I did a good job. As Secretary Clinton. Also fought it I mean you don't know everybody mentions Rizzo that sought to block its troop Sidney Blumenthal. Sent a reporter. You just have to take a look at CNN deep last week the interview with you're former campaign manager. And she was involved. But just like she can't bring back jobs. And she can't produce. Observers Arafat I won't let you respond to magnitude there's a lot there but we're talking about racial healing in this segment. What do you say to Americans well it was very action dollar I say nothing because I was able to get him to produce it he should have produced at long time before I say nothing but let me just tell you. When you talk about healing. I think that I developed very very good relationships over the last. Little while with the African American community I think you can see that. And I feel that they really wanted me to come to that conclusion. And I think I did a great job and a great service not only for the country but even for the president in getting him. To produce has been Senator Biden. Well just listen to what you heard. Back and clearly as Donald just admitted he knew it was gonna stand on this debate stage and Lester I was going to be asking us questions we tried to put. The hall racist birth or lie. To bad. But it can't be dismissed that easily. He has really. Started his political activity based on this races slide that our first black president. Was not an American citizen. There was absolutely no evidence for it but he persisted and persisted year after year because. Some of his supporters people that he was. Tried to bring into his fault apparently believed dead or wanted to believe it. But remember. Donald started his career. Back at 1973. Being sued by the justice department for racial discrimination. Because he would not rent. Apartments in one of his developments to African Americans that he made sure our. That the people who work for AM understood that was the policy he actually was sued twice by the Justice Department. So we has a long. Record. Of engaging in racist behavior. And the birth or lie. Was a very hurtful one. Now Barack Obama is a man of great dignity. And I could tell how much it bothered him and annoyed him. That this was being touted and used against him. But I like to remember what Michelle Obama said in her amazing speech at our Democratic National Convention. When they doll lol we go high. And Barack Obama went high despite. Donald Trump's best efforts to bring him down. Mr. charming and respond to remove ArvinMeritor respond first of all I got to watch in preparing for this some of your debates against Barack Obama you treated him. With terrible disrespect and I watched the way you talk now about how lovely everything is and how wonderful you like. Doesn't work that way you are after him you were trying do you even sent out or your campaign sent out pictures of him and a certain gar. Very famous pictures I don't think you can deny that. But just last week your campaign manager said it was true so when you try to act holier than thou. It really doesn't work it really doesn't now as far as the lawsuit guess what I was very young and I wanted to my father's company had to gross a company in Brooklyn and queens. And we along with the many many other companies throughout the country's a federal lawsuit which sued. We settled the suit with zero with no admission of guilt. It was very easy to do but they showed many people. I notice you bring that up alive and I you know I also knows the very nasty commercials that you do on me and so many different ways which I don't doing you maybe I'm trying to save the money but frankly. I look. I look at that and I say is done amazing because I settled. That lawsuit. With no admission of guilt but that was a lawsuit brought against many real estate firms. And it's just one of those things I'll go on one step further. In Palm Beach, Florida tough community. How brilliant community a wealthy community probably the wealthiest community there is in the world. I opened the club. And really get great credit for no discrimination. Against. African Americans against Muslims against anybody. And it's a tremendously successful club and I'm so glad I did it and I have been given great credit for what I did and I'm very very proud ascent and that's the way I feel that he's the true way I feel.
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