Ava DuVernay talks inclusion riders, working with Oprah in 'A Wrinkle In Time'

DuVernay joined "The View" to discuss her highly anticipated film.
6:54 | 03/07/18

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Listen, they know the work and they know the documentary. They know your work, and -- Thank you all. They love you. There you go. There you go. You are having such a moment, hopefully an extended moment. But -- and I saw the film but at the oscars, Jimmy Kimmel took a bunch of people to get a sneak preview of "A wrinkle in time". And interrupted my movie but that's okay. How did that make you feel? I knew they were going to do it. I loved it because it was an appreciation for our audience. None of it would matter if no one comes, you know what I mean? Really I love the piece and it was funny. So ava, in 2015 your movie "Selma" was nominated for best picture, an Oscar. That was the good news. The bad news was even though you were the director and I don't understand how that doesn't go together, you were not nominated but the movie was. The director not. Weird. And they caught a lot of flack for that at the oscars. In fact, a hashtag started to trend called oscars so white. Do you think that progress has been made since then? Because we saw more diverse think this year. What do you say? I really like this year's show. I love seeing native American man who did the salute. I love coco. I loved seeing Kelly Tran come out, Vietnamese woman. I thought they did a good job in terms of presenters and creating a show that felt inclusive. You had a trans presenter. It was more than I had seen. But the academy is a system. It's a structure. It takes time to really create lasting change, but I think they're trying and so there's more work to be done. But how can they ever separate the director from the movie? Very easy. They do it all the time. It seems like it's a director's medium. The year "The color purple" was nominated, Spielberg was not. What happens is sometimes the directors vote for directors. Sound people vote for sound people, and then we all vote for the whole movie. So people are looking at different things, you know, so it's a very -- Thank you for your outrage. But it was a good time and we got to be there and galo"glory" won that year. To have a film directed by a black woman be nominated for best picture was a first. It's all good. On Sunday Frances mcdormand called for an inclusion rider in her speech. I don't understand what that is. Do you support them and explain it to our audience. People who have power over the contracts and the ways in which the crews look are saying we want to put a rider, a piece into our contract that says if I come, Frances mcdormand, you have to pledge to have a more inclusive crew, women on the crew, people of color, people with disabilities, all kinds of people need to be welcomed into the process of making the movie and we want to put it in the contract. Does that counselt for on screen too? Yeah. What if it doesn't call for adversity. Just asking for consideration of even people in the background, the woman who brings you the coffee, could there be a consideration of that being someone who we usually don't see. When I saw Wes study come out for the military piece, I was hit by our native Americans who never get to see themselves on the national stage. Could the woman who brings you coffee be a native American -- brings you coffee in the movie. Let's talk about "A wrinkle in time." It's a 14-year-old biracial girl that's the time-traveling hero in your film. But the book, much like black panther, people of color are so excited. I know my daughter is so excited to just see someone, the protagonist, that looks like she looks. Yeah, absolutely. But in the book and I read the book as well. My daughter has read the book. Meg is white. When I read the book, meg looked like me. It's all a matter of perception. The woman who wrote this book in 1962, rejected by 29 publishers. She kept trying, got it published and it's endured. It's 2018. She was radical in the things she had meg do. We wanted to continue that tradition. I don't think it's radical that the girl has brown skin. But you know, her brother, Charles Wallace, iconic character, she's played by a filipino actor. Ultimately you see the movie and you're like, that kid, she's Charles Wallace. You start to immerse yourself in the story and the skin matters not. So yeah, that's it. I love that. So I have to just ask for the people. We know that there's an all star cast. You have Mindy kaling, Reese Witherspoon, but you had Oprah. I did. The people want to know not only what was it like working with Oprah but y'all are friends in real life. What is that like? She really wanted to tell the story because the story is crafted for young people and she has a lot to say to young people, to all of us really. But no, I enjoy hanging out with her. I often forget -- I forget that she's, you know, Oprah and we're just having pink berry or hot chocolate or hanging out with all the girls from South Africa and we're just chilling, a lot of times we'll just be hanging out and I'll forget until like the butler walks in and you'll be like, oh, yes, this is the Oracle. I forgot. A few little things but overall she's pretty cool, cool lady. She's all right. She's all right. Our thanks to ava duvernay. "A wrinkle in time" opens in theaters on Friday. Take the kids. Yeah, take the kids. Take yourselves.

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