Matt Gutman's July 9, 2014 interviews at Kansas City water park

Gutman talks with water park co-owner and ride designer.
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Transcript for Matt Gutman's July 9, 2014 interviews at Kansas City water park
You know and I'm that. Which account bigger recognize you from the the Travel Channel. Pay no one. And I'm ray funny read for fun. Are you nervous or should I be nervous won't. Now we should be here are being ignorant it. Wow okay. Any last minute hitches that we should be aware of no. How India crash tests sandbags these days and he killed any recently. Weaving. It. Holes. Lifeguards. Ways. Posted a lifeguards and employees have been the first eight. The commission. I'm. When. We begin if it. This news who owns a canvas of the troops where the civilians. Here percent confident this thing is safe. It and so why in earnest. Well you know. We're don't want to should be nervous that. It's true. Each anybody's going to be nervous it appears like. Thank you since fair. It and you don't hear me. Is still there yes it really. Wouldn't you. Yeah now what's the point it. No elevator right you have to climb up the 240. Some stats why is that. Is it because you know. You it's merely not for the faint of hard sell it if people can actually get to the top of the thing that's and they can make it down without a heart attack. Physical. This. Trial by fire. What steps. It's like having a long walk. To continuity accurate reflect on the life. Enjoy enjoy the views you it is easier lot of time for your last much. I pull any additional four antidumping. Influence smile. That this. You can be. Might be. It's. Nabil. Here soil air and you'll see an event definitely is Jeff around yet. You know describing your building another water park. A what does it river system. If we're building a park in Corpus Christi, Texas I've spent most of my time there. Had to fire back and forth to the site to to build this ride. May refuse late it's over budget. You know was billed to be the world's tallest fastest for. It is. And this is a great ride him and that we sort where and but now and then Texas and Corpus Christi. Where we undertook the building of the fifths we're wrong and it was supposed to be relatively small part and I got carried away. My partner Jerry got carried away when an ability river system called transportation routes over 8000 feet long it features. New technology in Newt just a complete new way of writing that's never ever been built before body surfing. We're gonna bodies her through a mile a ball of rapids. I think it's clear month probably loners. Party analogy but you kind of like the Howard Hughes of water parks. And big big you do things that are audacious and I think that's what broke and saying. I think that is what I do is as I tried to. Give my guess what they want they. They wanted to tallest ride the world. Have long insular bond. Are eager to rides in a river runs or nobody has and we're we're the only ones they'll those things. They're the aircraft that's taken forty years to develop. In over patented cross the US on. There's hundreds and hundreds of new. Effects. That would that we are that we're. It booming as fast as we can't try to get that finances rolled out. On this gentleman there that they're all interrelated. Remember we re we take a writer and ultimately we'll take this ride and integrated right into a river system. Briefly floating in a river in the administrative with conveyor. The nets when the next Friday you'll see like this is just the conveyor belt to sicken people up to the top. So they don't have to walk in will get this thing run into where we're dropping a writer you know every twenty seconds. You see these people coming and you think it's over when you hit the second number right here. Is this really truth. It's if true is a lot scarier. They read the first feared that in the. You feel like I've made it and then here is to start you're sorry how. Now oil whether you're doing well you don't makes a lot scarier is having watched all those sandbags fly off into space. During testing. Well it happened there. One and none of that was for TV you can be assured him and we wouldn't do something like that would win. And a the very first vote we put men we decided to spoof the Travel Channel. And we we install moved secret wheels underneath and it. Knowing full what was going to happen. And let's see unit for those boasts the flat out in it's not the specific words here but earlier in the testing we did US that. Been so we were we're just having fun. But there were a couple of snafus here. Hold on to describe what kind of things went wrong well my partner Joseph and it sometimes is an idiot. And he's messed up he messed up. And hearing Marlins third. Noon. Argued with him about it he argue about it we both are grim numbers and he won that particular we're we've built at noon now we went wrecked and rebuilt it my way. To Augusta rebuild it. I don't know I hate to drug members I think a million bucks from his what's been spent rebuilding this run because of his mistake. Nothing personal. And ended there was Wayne Gilbert tornadoes that restore this that's a solid today. And you still building and I saw guys are hammering a little bit of the picket fence saying you guys are talking about part of this right here. Or will continue to evolve this ride any time we will see some that we can be better we're gonna do it. That's that's that's interesting thing immensely among group is that we don't stop. This ride ultimately will integrate the flow right into some override technologies. Mean this isn't the last of a problem here. Mayor met in the next we're going right here going up the world around this park this right fit in them being you know mile and half long. Ridge just keep having people go through it up and down up and down. Now I was gonna ask where is. And nobody thought this was probably possible few years ago now it is and what's next. Well that the technology in the master blaster technology is fifteen years old now. And in what we've done now on this ride is we're using a brand new novel technology that takes. Air pressure over water with pressurized a water pressure as the air over the water that we can adjust the amount of energy that we're transferring. From that. Contain water to riders and so now we can take people faster. Harder earlier we can room grow much steeper slopes and we can take them. Places we could never knew before so that that the technologies change so now the designers have new tools to work with that we didn't have before. 200 and sandy stares you couldn't put in an elevator something like that. Well and it's all of them go underwater park community outside and get some exercise but noon. If you can't if you can't walk up 270 sinners a feel good about it you probably shouldn't be run this ride. It's this it's a very serious ride and you tests all of these rights yourself you're the first human to go down. I'm the first few I'm that the first person and in the boat usually behind me of the two person and I believe her partner receives Julio over here. New to us we usually ride everything for sure we were the prototypes. Soledad. That was always considered to be a perk in the job in a minute that's it's what does he duck tape your joints and where the hell admitting he had to Helena was never come off when he had that moment on I needed and the helmet and and I want afraid of extremely hard and at that was not the problem. It was it's yeah mine and my. I'm my body was. They let let me this is your. Like to throw people have probably do this. I can't wait to see some smaller younger kids come down there there. It's gonna reform. Was going to be this really who. We'll run it kind of did for my producer sending got. It I've kind of talk to down and I got him to go up and not a little afraid Ellen down. A little silent back here in the back and grab there was silence and are below we will win three of us. Two designers and when my insistence that we didn't give him but he else to go with a happy sitting donuts you're a kid. Well yeah in the boat mirrors by committed has not one person says the word. Mr. Willie all gonna go and Milton dole answer a couple of other series that just just just long jump. If there's nobody would commit is there and go with their bruises that matter it's it's scary and really spirit especially if your first. Well especially that hasn't really been tested it it is slowly they've been testing this with a human. But that's what I mean I. Oh my dad and Taylor probably sits in back to work more than me so. Tell us quite a few sandbags. We did we did we had votes but remember we're testing now to the extremes. So when you see when we're when you see sandbags Kamal we can make sandbags from off this right then and wrecked boats on this right right now still loaded up with weight. So it is this whole bunch of factors weigh this is the most significant factor there are other factors that I just. The speed of awry and how much faster we can make you know what we could make it do. So. I think you know we were trying to keep the G forces them that's what we really have been working on trying to get it's where people we're gonna put into any any kind of GeForce danger and we've been able do that so. I think now you're c.s are pushing the emblem the other way. We have all over biometric. Testing. And in this ride is is interesting because. It's me and built. Really like you build a spaceship rather than just sit in the past we just lobbed over ride and you know it righted if it was live it was good. This was been tested its head all kinds. Electronic equipment two to do to tell everything from impact speed to two G force and so. Now I think we're going in there. How high. No her high. Don't we break the 200 foot barrier. I'd say we're going to go way way way above that in the next one. It's like to be the first to write it. I'll be the personal specific active in his motorized. I'll dedicate myself to. Yeah I veterans that he might want Wear a helmet and I 300 conveniently this. Very who Germantown. It's. Why are we what you're little toward displays sure we will go out of the ropes. He called you an idiot. Yes that's mr. downs Dooley and he can be an idiot sometimes. His engineering on the first time during the first segment of this ride construction proved to be incorrect and then. But had to go back and corrected. If tells a recent exploits stands out. Four mistresses. Rather than it happened when are you haven't been a point though Motley Miro. Guys in this dangerous. It is dangerous. And you want to be scary but is it dangerous that Sunday. It is run properly and everything everything right. When we were catching it. It affects only. It's such a way that. That that they that they would laughs and great example is. This thing. While it should I be concerned that they're still using jackhammers and saws. I had no idea what they're. Should she noticed. Are on its. This whole lot of liberation. Stuff is good. See you sink into your goal is. Sort of standardize the industry inning. Water slides a chip had a history of not being so sane being perfectly safe to let road. Her right plus his fiancee is. Inside and let me. We're. Putting together the guidelines for how you go about evaluating whether Wright is safer. That includes. Metrics and he. Paul type experience and strength speed and so that's certainly did so that we know what's gonna happen the body as he goes through Iraq tracks. And by doing that festival hours ago. They look for bigger and you know better rides you know where it where this is about a fifth really about fifty miles an hour ride. Bigger our next question we have we get up. On this under close on this on this yeah. Neck and Lawler. And it would have to have a very different. Conclusion in this and I'm miles an hour. He he would begin in. Jay forces the air force fed city. How fast can this go with the proper weights seventy. Or maybe a little over seventy miles where did you do it at seven and no sir. That's the flying sand bank sanity well. The sense that seven isn't it was killed would cause it behaviors that speed is that the issue. The issue is there tightness of the turns gentlemen at the suspect stepped up. Speed is not that as. This means that the broad audience of seventy. At seventy miles an hour. It's you can't really tell the difference 157. The problem is when we come down toward the bottom in your having to make gradual. Turn. The tighter the turn the Margie forces you're gonna get. And so we have to adjust things to make them work right basin speeds we haven't certain sections within. Seems that it would be pretty tough we just something that's taller than the statue of liberty. Well we're currently talking about Millen and the Renton. From the ground and is it worth it worth all the expense in the army now that's a question and only the financial guys. Right now they probably don't like we're proud of the two most dislike guys and accounting finance departments. They're never live. We're what are. And we're. Saying we always like to tell everybody we begin a project. You you know it you'll like we gave in the in the will be the best probably this ever written bill. It'll probably be over budget we're probably going to be late and we've done it again and then he namely that how much over budget and how late. We're way overrode that way you room where you read it. Least double what we are social and and they don't lane. Or a year late. Are you saying it is safe Aaliyah this riders the safest besides government bill. It's been tested it's been evaluated and that's why we're like we've just means the minute we since we have probably stopped and civil do we fix it than we did. What made you want to scare people by making rights somewhat dangerous and it. How steep the ball is and how fast they go the other hand you wanna make it the safest bussing you know you don't want to build a bigger situation. You do wanna scare people but it doesn't have to be gators do that. All times the scariest things there are. A person's perception. Your lead up to it. You know you hear the music going and I'm. And you're gonna of the stairs just feel it's our shaky little bit we wanted to tower shaking a little. So we're trying to get the engineers allow the should definitely Manning. You know and then you feel when an out there there's always the way and high winds. And figured since all the little things are building up to it. And then once you get to the top and in you're getting rated load on. You get a brief moment to think about it and think wow if this is the last thing I'm ever gonna do. And that's what people are thinking. And that is where the fear comes from that's that you love that it is an adrenaline junkies. You know mobile it. And watching your glee at seeing their terrorists is pretty funny as well liked auction of the people yeah I like I like I like Carolyn V neck you know. We've been thrilling people for almost fifty years it's that a wrong and I'd like to continue doing it. I got about 1520 warriors laughs. McMillan of the ten massive. Crimes like this or another ten parks. With him or her eyes and a heightened. Are you in. That's the. Anything. So this hour that this is behind her in front of me is bill that's all railroad cars and where where Rio where Reese companies should run read. Can be an Indian sometimes. His engineering the first time during the first segment of this ride construction proved to be incorrect in the we have to go back and corrected this big idiot tells boundaries and exploit stands out. Four mistress. Rather than it can happen when are you haven't been a point though Motley Miro. Guys in this dangerous. This is dangerous. And you want to be scary but it's a dangerous it's done. It is round Robin. Utley and everything everything right. When we were casting it. It affects only. It's such a way that. That that they that they were the last great example is. As things. All it should be concerned that they're still using jackhammers and saws. No idea what they're. Should she knows it. Our Arkansas it's. There's a whole lot of declarations and stuff is good. See you received at that your call is. Sort of standardize the industry inning. Water slides a chip had a history of not being so say it being perfectly safe to put road. Perfect and right. Plus it and say it's. We're putting together the guidelines for how you go about evaluate whether Wright is safer. That includes. Metrics and includes. Paul type experience and strength speed and so that's certainly so that we know what's gonna happen the body as it goes through Iraq and attract. And by doing that festival hours ago. And look for bigger and you know better rides you know where we're at this is about a fifth really about fifty mile an hour ride. I figure our next question we have we get him. On this under close on this in this little. After you Lawler. Very different. Conclusion at the end is an event miles and there are. He he would begin in. G forces. Air force doesn't like city. How fast can this go with the proper weights seventy. Our regular look at seventy miles there did you do it at seven and no sir. That's the flying sand bank sanity well. The sense that seven isn't what it would cause it behaviors that speed is that the issue. The issue is there tightness of the turns gentlemen at this they stepped up. Speed is not as yeah. Speeds up the broad audience of seventy. At seventy miles an hour. It's you can't really tell the difference 157. The problem is when you come down toward the bottom in your having to make gradual. Turn. The tighter the turn the more G forces you're gonna yet. And so we have to adjust things to make them work right basin speeds we haven't certain sexism in the seems that could be pretty we just something that's taller than the statue of liberty. Well we're currently talking about Millen another brand name from the ground and is it worth it is that work we'll be expensive army now that's a question and only the financial guys. Right now they probably don't like we're proud of the two most dislike guys in the accounting finance departments. They're never live. We're what are. And we're. Saying we always like to tell everybody we begin a project. You you'll like we gave you me and they'll be the best problem this ever written bill. It'll probably be over budget we're probably going to be latent we've done it again and then can believe it how much over budget it held late. We're way over rugged blue room where you read it please double what we were Sosa and and they don't lane. We're a year late. Based saying it is safe Aaliyah this right is probably the safest besides government bill. It's been tested it's been evaluated and that's why we're late we just mean the minute we since we have probably stopped and civil do we fix it and we did. Why did you want to scare people by making rights somewhat dangerous and it. How steep the fall waves and how fast they go on the other hand you wanna make it as safe as bussing you know you don't want to build a dangerous situation. You do want us here people but it doesn't have reduced to do that. All times the scariest things there are. Hire a person's perception. You lead up to it. You know you're hearing music going and I'm. And you're gonna of the stairs just feel it's our shaky little bit we wanted to towers shaking level. So we're trying to get me engineers allowed a should definitely management. You know in the new field a win in there there's always the win. High winds. In certain units this all the little things are building up to it. And then once you get to the top and in you're getting ready to load on. You get a brief moment to think about it and think wow what if this is the last thing I'm ever gonna do. And that's what people are thinking. And that is where the fear council that's. It is an adrenaline junkies. You know moment. And watching your glee at seeing their terrorists is pretty funny as well I like Washington people yeah I like I like I like throwing the net you know. We've been thrilling people from a fifty year legislative wrong and I like to continue doing it. I got about 1520 warriors left so. Wouldn't villain of the ten massive. Crimes like this and other Tim parks with him or her eyes and all I can do it. You and. In Rome and that the. This hour this isn't. Behind her in front of me is that that's all railroad cars and where where Rio where Reeves companies should run for re uses a lot of our materials. Right. And this is a chemical containers are gallery gasoline those are those rarer veterans tank cars. And and the idea using those for our structure which. Saved us some money gave us a really strong structure. We're now down that. Wrecking yards or. Plants and in Brownsville Texas Galveston Texas and all of that some in a coastal. Reckon it ships and taking parts off ships so that we needed huge pieces of steel. That big long thick two inches thick and massive staff. Big pump big Mo or big big propellers. Submarines were taken submarines and we're getting ready to build some really mean mean mean things. All you this time somebody with some money. Pull who'll pay for our next don't look at me Jeff for next. Even affect your world record record. Mean it's expensive. Does this you know I don't have departed these parts of my fair McDonough in some of the park. Parks was with himself and his family. And it just takes a lot of money to build new rides in the technologies. It's not see. And without the individual owners like like ourselves. When corporate America takes over then. Innovations stops you don't see any innovation coming for partner. Here to there too scared of the optics that monetary. Our partners. In this park EPR which is Entertainment Properties Trust. House here in Kansas and New York search instantly. That they've been great there that only major currently and we work with the state yeah go for. We did get a call a couple of weeks ago same for you ever gonna open that ride. Knew they were not to have been battered realize how much you gonna charge for it. Charge what for the ride Clinton. Customers nothing as just part of the park agents think. This is just another ride another track from now. I think if in a few moments. When where we do have some time to sit back and reflect will order new. We've got three more rights that come off this hour. We haven't tone. A so use it for three other rides and ease the base. Extreme right. Quite expert wish lists or kick people off. But hunt article will be here when it happens we'll thanks guys aren't ignorant it's.

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