this morning and ABC's Jon Karl is covering the debate. Good morning, Jon. Reporter: Good morning, Michael. For all the talk of Donald Trump interrupting Hillary Clinton. These two talked over each other more. Especially Tim kaine who found himself repeatedly scolded by the moderator. Take a listen. I know you can't -- Senator, please, this is the governor's two minutes. Don't put my words in my mouth. I'm not defending him. I'm happy to defend him and most of what you said is completely false -- Senator, please, this is governor pence's two minces. Reporter: We crunched the Numbers. Pence interrupted kaine 40 times but kaine interrupted pence almost twice as often 70 times almost two for every minute he spoke and kept the fact checkers busy. On several occasions he denied Donald Trump said things he did say and this stood out. Governor pence said inarguably, Vladimir Putin is a better leader than president Obama. That is absolutely inaccurate. And I just think a guy -- Said he's been stronger on the world stage. No, he said leader. Reporter: But pence did say it and he said it less than a month ago. I think it's inarguable that Vladimir Putin has been a stronger leader in his country than Barack Obama has been in this country. Reporter: So the bottom line while pence wins points on style in this debate there were several points where he was, let's just say, George, list than factual.