Biden and Trump discuss relief bill and minimum wage

“It was a really big bailout for badly-run Democrat cities and states,” President Donald Trump said about the relief bill.
5:39 | 10/23/20

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As of tonight, more than 12 million people are out of work and as of tonight, 8 million more Americans have fallen into poverty and more families are going hungry every day. Those hit hardest are women and people of color. They see Washington fighting over a relief bill. Mr. President, why haven't you been able to get them the help they need? 30 seconds here? Because Nancy Pelosi doesn't want to approve it. I do. You're the president. I do. But I still have to get -- that's one of the reasons I think we're going to take over the house, because of her. Nancy Pelosi doesn't want to approve anything because she'd love to have some victories on a date called November 3rd. Nancy Pelosi does not want to approve it. We are ready, willing and able to do something. Don't forget, we've already approved three plans and it's gone through, including the Democrats, in all fairness. This one, she doesn't want. It's near the election. Because she thinks it helps her politically. Just so you know, the Republican leader in the united States snap said he can't pass it. He will not be able to pass it. He does not have Republican votes. Why isn't he talking to his Republican friends? Let me follow you up, vice president Biden -- you are the leader of the democratic party. Why have you not pushed the Democrats to get a deal for the American people? Well, I have, and they have pushed it. They passed this act all the way back in the beginning of the summer. This is like -- it's not new. It's been out there. This H.E.R.O.E.S. Act was sitting there. When I was in charge of the recovery act, $800 billion, I was able to get $145 billion for local communities that have to balance their budgets, states that have to balance their budgets, that have to firefighters, teachers, first responders, law enforcement officers so they can keep their steps and counties running. He will not support that. They have not done a thing for them. And Mitch Mcconnell said, let them go bankrupt. Let them go bankrupt. Come on. What's the matter with these guys? The bill that was passed in the house was a bailout of badly run, high crime, Democrat, all run by Democrat, cities and states. It was a way of getting a lot of money, billions and billions of dollars, to these -- it was also a way of getting a lot of money from our people's pockets to people that come into our country illegally. We were going to take care of everything for them. What that does, and I would love to do that, I would love to help them, but everybody all over the world will start pouring into our country. We can't do it. This was a way of taking care of them. This was a way of spending on things that had nothing to do with covid, as per your question, but it was really a big bailout for badly run Democrat cities and states. If I get elected, I'm running as a proud Democrat, but I'm going to be an American president. I don't see red states and blue what I see is America. United States. And folks, every single state out there finds themselves in trouble. They're going to start laying off, whether they're red or blue, cops, firefighters, first responders, because -- teachers, because they have to balance their budget. And the founders were smart, they allowed the federal government to deficit spend to compensate for the united state of America. I want to talk about the minimum wage, gentleman. E are talking a lot about struggling small businesses -- Yes. And business owners these do you think this is the right time to ask them to raise the minimum wage? You, of course, support a $15 minimum wage. I do. Because I think one of the things we're going to have to do is, we're going to have to bail them out, too. We should be bailing them out now. Those small businesses. You got 1 in 6 of them going under. They're not going to be able to make it back. They passed a package that allows us to be able to have ppp, money that is supposed to help them to do everything to organize how they can deal with their businesses being open safely, schools, how they can make classrooms smaller, how they can hire more teachers, how they can put ventilation systems in. They need the help. The businesses, as well as the schools, need the help. But these guys will not help it's not giving them any of the money. We are going to move on to immigration, but I want to get your reaction. Help small businesses by raising the minimum wage? That's not help. It think it should be a state option. Alabama is different than new York. New York is different from Vermont. Every state is different. It should be a state option. You said very recently -- It's very important. We have to help our small businesses. You said -- How are you helping your small businesses when you are forcing wages. What's going to happen and what's been proven to happen, when you do that, the small businesses fire many of their employees. Not true, by the way. You said recently you would consider raising the federal minimum wage to $15. I would consider it to an extend. In a second administration? In a second administration. But not to a level that's going to put all these businesses out it should be a state option. Look. Different places are all different. Some places, $15 is not so bad. In other places, other states, $15 would be ruining. Quick response, vice president Biden? Two jobs, one job, below poverty. People are making $6, $7 an hour. First responders we all clap for as they come down the street because they've allowed us to make it, what's happening? They deserve a minimum wage of $15. Anything below that puts you below the poverty level. And there is no evidence that when you raise the minimum wage, businesses go out of business. That is simply not true. We're going to talk about immigration. We're going to talk about immigration now, gentlemen.

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